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On editing FCAC

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The pattern of editing Financial Consumer Agency of Canada suggests that it is the agency itself which is directing editing of the article, and your editing here suggests that you are their agent. Editing of articles on oneself or one's employer is heavily discouraged under WP:COI guidelines. Inclusion of copyrighted material from other sites (such as the agency website) is forbidden, and such text will be removed when it is found. Finally, the requirement to use secondary sources means that information about the agency must be taken and sourced from other authorities, and not solely from the agency's website or publications.

In this particular case, you appear to be largely restoring material which was removed from the article because it was found to be problematic. Such edits are likely to be summarily reverted. If you wish to keep them, you need to engage other editors on the article's talk page. Mangoe (talk) 15:48, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the advice. As I will explain on the article's talk page, I am indeed employed by the agency. However, all the contributors to this page in the past have been employed by the agency and have endeavoured to include only factual, unbiased information about FCAC's history and programs. As the agency works to protect and inform consumers, this entry will benefit them, rather than materially promote or improve the agency, itself.

In this way, the article is similar to articles about other government agencies, including the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions, the Canadian Border Services Agency, the Canada Revenue Agency and others. Scott Bury (talk) 17:13, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What we need is factual, unbiased information that comes from some other source other than the agency itself, such as newspaper reports, books, magazines, even material from other government agencies. You could for example cite authorizing legislation. But we cannot accept material that has no other source than the agency itself, and we cannot accept material copied verbatim from any source that is not in the public domain. And all information needs to be accompanied by citations as to the source of the information. Please see WP:V, WP:NPOV, and WP:RS for further information.
I must add that a lot of your fellow editors would object to FCAC employees editing the article at all, and would insist that you simply suggest changes on the article talk page. I am more tolerant than most because I recognize that insiders often have a better idea of where to find information that outsiders do. I cannot however protect you or the agency from the appearance of writing something promotional about the agency, and if you or your co-workers insist on doing so, it is likely that administrators here will take steps to prevent you from doing so. If you keep restoring versions that others found objectionable, it will not reflect well on you, no matter how noble the agency's motives are.
Finally, one etiquette note: it is the done thing to indent your responses using colons at the beginning of each paragraph, so as to readily distinguish your response from previous text. Mangoe (talk) 18:05, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

February 2013

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Hello, Scott Bury. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Financial Consumer Agency of Canada, you may need to consider our guidance on conflicts of interest.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:

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Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 21:41, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is A Canadian governmental agency is editing its own article. Thank you. Mangoe (talk) 13:58, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

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about all the warnings. Just keep editing. If you can find published or online sources that verify any of the article's text, please cite them after the relevant text. If you need help creating citations, or any other help of any kind, ask me at my talk page and I'll be very happy to do what I can. You and your colleagues are doing a good job on the article. Thank you. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 15:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Financial Consumer Agency of Canada, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to contain material copied from http://www.fcac-acfc.gc.ca/eng/about/index-eng.asp http://www.fcac-acfc.gc.ca/eng/about/mandate/index-eng.asp, and therefore to constitute a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under license allowed by Wikipedia, then you should do one of the following:

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at this temporary page. Leave a note at Talk:Financial Consumer Agency of Canada saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Psychonaut (talk) 23:17, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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