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vandal

exciting, my first user vandalism - thanks for catching it so quickly. Kevin (talk) 08:46, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry. Revert enough vandalism and you'll rack them up really quickly. I've been averaging 1 a day or so and that's on slow days... ScottSteiner ✍ 08:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of my talk page, too. You were busy this morning! Wikipelli Talk 15:14, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
And mine, for that matter! Thanks! – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 04:52, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Neoconfederate

You reverted one minute after my initial post. I am to believe that was an informed and good faith edit? The entire section was added recently by Tom North Shoreman. I have reviewed the discussion page. I don't think any part of the new section adds value to the page; but if we are going to label Tom DiLorenzo, a neo-confederate, something Jeffrey Rogers Hummel (the alleged source of criticism) does not do, then the whole section is questionable, as it lacks reliable support. However, rather than engage in a protracted debate on the issue, I thought it would be both fair and informative to let DiLorenzo's words represent his views. What is unreasonable about that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.195.97.215 (talk) 20:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

You added a blank link with a NPOV review of the article, calling it an "excellent example" with no context to add to the article which is in violation of WP:PROMO. That is why it was something easy to revert. Summarize DiLorenzo's opinion on the matter, while keeping it in context with the article's subject matter. Use the link as a source (WP:CITE) and it will probably be fine for inclusion. ScottSteiner ✍ 20:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

REPLY: I don't understand your reference to WP: PROMO. I am not promoting myself, and I am not even promoting DiLorenzo. I am letting DiLorenzo's words exemplify the criticism of DiLorenzo. What if I were to call you a racist and then exclude your own words from the court of public opinion? Would that be informative or fair? That is more or less what is going on here. Since "excellent" seems to make the statement promotional, in your view, how about you restore what you have reverted without the word "excellent?" The point is to let DiLorenzo speak for himself, since neither he, nor his critc Hummel refer to him as a neoconfederate.

That is what quotes are for. A bare link added to an article doesn't add anything to it outside of promoting that link. Compare:

DiLorenzo has denied being a Neo-Confederate, saying "X". Further, he describes this label as being attached to him for the purposes of "Y" and those who attach this label as "Z".[1]

  1. ^ http://www.someurlhere.com
    2. to

    read this link http://www.someurlhere.com

    The first one adds content to the article aside from the link itself, the second does not. ScottSteiner ✍ 22:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

    REPLY: Scott, if you will view the Discussion page, apparently only Tom North Shoreman and his confederates are allowed to post on that very questionably sourced page. Just try to balance the article and see what happens. I still think your rapid reverts are highly suspicious. Good Luck to you.74.195.97.215 (talk) 03:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

    Are there specific disputable statements on the page that aren't backed up by the sources provided? My revert was rapid because it looked very spammy and showed up as such on the anti-vandalism tool I use. I reverted it rapidly because there was no context provided except "go here" provided along with the link. ScottSteiner ✍ 03:58, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

    REPLY: Yes, Scott. There are plenty of serious source problems on that page; but you would have to review the edit history and the Discussion page to fully understand it, or check the sources and logic for yourself. There is way too much for me to place on your Talk page. In a nutshell, apart from the SPLC, a primary and self-serving source, or its employees, being the ONLY contemporary source for the term "neoconfederate" the page employs the words of alleged "neo-confederates" (DiLorenzo, for example) to demonstrate purported beliefs of neoconfederates. The problem is, not one of the alleged neoconfederates use that term. So how do their words define "Neoconfederate" beliefs? It is a logical fallacy, writ large. Virtually the entire page is grafitti disguised as scholarship. That is why I wished to let DiLorenzo speak for himself.74.195.97.215 (talk) 04:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

    Paul Atterbury page

    Hi, Just wondering why the information I added about Paul Atterbury becoming Patron of the Daniel Adamson Preservation Society and his love of ships and art-deco was removed by you? Most rude! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel adamson (talk • contribs) 21:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

    Edit at Paul Atterbury

    Hi, generally when a user adds an image using a link or from their local drive, one should undo the edit manually and notify the user with {{Uw-imageuse}}. Apparently, Huggle/Rollback is used for reverting vandalism only, so please assume good faith when users try to add such images. --43?9enter ☭msg★contribs 22:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

    On an entirely related note, I prefer the Orange Box to tell me when someone replies to something, so leave a {{tb}} on my talk page or fragment the discussion there. --43?9enter ☭msg★contribs 22:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
    I was assuming good faith. I just thought it was the user testing edits/user error, so I rolled it back without warning the user. Thanks for the tip about Huggle/Rolleback only being used to revert vandalism, I misreadWP:ROLLBACK and assumed it was okay to use for reverting situations like this. Thanks for the heads up ScottSteiner ✍ 04:29, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

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    Barnstar

    The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
    You've been doing some great anti-vandal work! I keep running into your reversions and warnings, and I just wanted you to know that it's appreciated. Also, thank you for the numerous reverts on my user/user talk pages :] – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 14:32, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

    Likewise

    The Userpage Shield
    Thanks for cleaning up the vandalism on my user page. I also went ahead and got some admin attention on WP:AIV and got that guy blocked. - Uhai (talk · contribs) 07:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

    Deleting an upload

    is it possible that you can delte File:PaperCricket.png? I messed up on that page and it's showing as a duplicate for the page I did correctly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Modica4uall (talk • contribs) 08:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

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    Help

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    unpublished non-mainstream

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:N5iln#unpublished_non-mainstream —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.59.169.46 (talk) 20:05, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

    Recent changes patrol

    It's obvious you're a RC patroller. How do you become one?--1966batfan (talk) 20:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

    The best way is to read up on Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol. Read up on the policies (especially assuming good faith) and use one of the tools like Twinkle to help you get started. ScottSteiner ✍ 21:01, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

    Report

    Please report 24.7.30.11 to an admin for vandalism.--1966batfan (talk) 01:17, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

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    User talk:Hungeyforblud

    Time to go soon, I fear? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:40, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

    I just gave him his final (level 4) warning. If he vandalizes again, report him at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism with links to the diffs of his vandalism. ScottSteiner ✍ 09:05, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
    Ok. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

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