User talk:SchmiAlf
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Hello SchmiAlf! Your additions to German influence on the Soviet space program have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.
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- Thank you for this extended explanation. In my last edit, I was following the general approach already used in German influence on the Soviet space program which does not use quotation marks in most cases although original language (e.g., from Siddiqi) is used or sometimes, when paraphrased, modified from the original meaning. I could have easily added quotation marks for some direct quotes from Anatoly Zak's Russian Space Web (https://www.russianspaceweb.com/gorodomlya.html#end) and Dmitry Ustinow's document of 1951 (https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/memorandum-d-f-ustinov-l-p-beria-use-german-specialists).
- In my opinion the complete deletion of my edit severely interferes the dispute of the article's content which I have escalated via Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#German influence on the Soviet space program. Therefore it would be very helpful if you make my last edit available for me by copying it into a subpage of my user page (or any other acceptable way). Otherwise the dispute (or review of third opinion) has lost its basis and I have to redo part of my investigations and proper structuring of my arguments. SchmiAlf (talk) 07:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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Conflict of interest
[edit]SchmiAlf can you please confirm you do not have a conflict of interest, as per WP:COI, particularly with your edits of Helmut Gröttrup and all other articles that you have been editing that include Helmut Gröttrup, for example, German influence on the Soviet space program, Space Race, etc. Ilenart626 (talk) 12:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- I confirm that I do not have a conflict of interest about myself, family, friends, clients, employers, or financial and other relationships. My honest interest is contributing to Wikipedia and improving it based on sources and insight available to me. For Helmut Gröttrup and Soviet rocketry I have digged into many German sources and other sources (such as CIA interrogations, released in 2010) which are not yet adequately considered in the English Wikipedia. SchmiAlf (talk) 17:33, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- SchmiAlf I note on your German User page you state:
- ”Herausgeber der Dokumentation "Helmut Gröttrup – Raketen, Banknoten, Chipkarten" zur Feier seines 100sten Geburtstags im Februar 2017 mit einer Leseprobe.[19]” (English - Editor of the documentary “Helmut Gröttrup – Rockets, Banknotes, Chip Cards” to celebrate his 100th birthday in February 2017 with a reading sample.[19]).
- ”u.a. mit einem Beitrag zur Festschrift anlässlich seines 100. Geburtstags[17] und einem Roman Gröttrup und das Universum der erfinderischen Zwerge[18]” (English - among other things with a contribution to the commemorative publication on the occasion of his 100th Birthday[17] and a novel Gröttrup and the universe of the inventive dwarfs[18]).
- Given the above, can you please explain how this is not a breach of WP:COI of the articles you have been editing, particularly Helmut Gröttrup and the other articles I mentioned above? Ilenart626 (talk) 23:52, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- There is no breach of WP:COI. Helmut Gröttrup's fate inspired me to have a more detailed look into his history and I grabbed through the bulk of available literature, including his personal letters (via his daughter Ursula Gröttrup) and his inheritance handed over to the Deutsches Museum. With this profound understanding of what had happened on Gorodomlya Island, I noticed that the English Wikipedia has taken a strange turn since the mid of 2022 for the description of the years 1948/1949 which more and more deviated from what I have read. Therefore I engaged as Wikipedia author to correct this (eventually confirmed by @Neopeius). SchmiAlf (talk) 09:26, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- SchmiAlf, your German website highlights that you are the editor of “Helmut Gröttrup – Raketen, Banknoten, Chipkarten” and your novel “Gröttrup und das Universum der erfinderischen Zwerge” are both for sale on the Internet. This appears to me to be a fairly clear breach of WP:COI as it would be in your commercial interest to promote Helmut Gröttrup and sell more of your books. By your above statement, plus comments you have made on various talk pages, it is also obvious that you know his daughter Ursula Gröttrup, which means your edits of Helmut Gröttrup articles and all other articles that include Helmut Gröttrup would be a breach of WP:COISELF. Therefore I cannot understand how you can say that you are complying with WP:COI? I request that you explain how you are not in breach of WP:COI, given the above. Ilenart626 (talk) 11:27, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- There is no German website, it is just my user page and out of discussion here. For avoiding a conflict in the English Wikipedia I deleted the reference to “Helmut Gröttrup – Raketen, Banknoten, Chipkarten” from Helmut Gröttrup's further readings. However, WP:COI states "using material you have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies, including WP:SELFPUB, and is not excessive. I think there is enough reason that it is relevant and it is not excessive. But this mentioning is not worth further discussion. Just preventative: Nadine Schmidt is not related to me and I don't know her.
- WP:COISELF does not apply here (i) because the article about Helmut Gröttrup has been created long before I made my first Wikipedia contribution (for sure he is a relevant person!), (ii) it is not an article about myself and (iii) it is not about Ursula Gröttrup. So what?
- None of my publications has any meaning for the talk in Space race with a new statement which clearly no longer supports Option C. SchmiAlf (talk) 17:43, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- SchmiAlf, unfortunately I will have to disagree with your interpretation of the requirements of WP:COI. Their is a clear process to follow, therefore I will be raising this issue at the conflict of interest noticeboard, and we can let other editors decide. Ilenart626 (talk) 12:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- SchmiAlf, your German website highlights that you are the editor of “Helmut Gröttrup – Raketen, Banknoten, Chipkarten” and your novel “Gröttrup und das Universum der erfinderischen Zwerge” are both for sale on the Internet. This appears to me to be a fairly clear breach of WP:COI as it would be in your commercial interest to promote Helmut Gröttrup and sell more of your books. By your above statement, plus comments you have made on various talk pages, it is also obvious that you know his daughter Ursula Gröttrup, which means your edits of Helmut Gröttrup articles and all other articles that include Helmut Gröttrup would be a breach of WP:COISELF. Therefore I cannot understand how you can say that you are complying with WP:COI? I request that you explain how you are not in breach of WP:COI, given the above. Ilenart626 (talk) 11:27, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- There is no breach of WP:COI. Helmut Gröttrup's fate inspired me to have a more detailed look into his history and I grabbed through the bulk of available literature, including his personal letters (via his daughter Ursula Gröttrup) and his inheritance handed over to the Deutsches Museum. With this profound understanding of what had happened on Gorodomlya Island, I noticed that the English Wikipedia has taken a strange turn since the mid of 2022 for the description of the years 1948/1949 which more and more deviated from what I have read. Therefore I engaged as Wikipedia author to correct this (eventually confirmed by @Neopeius). SchmiAlf (talk) 09:26, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- SchmiAlf I note on your German User page you state:
A barnstar for you!
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The Civility Barnstar |
| You've done an excellent job of keeping your cool and presenting your arguments cogently. Keep it up! Neopeius (talk) 18:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC) |
(I would have waited to change the language on the page, though—you're going to get reverted. --Neopeius (talk) 15:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC))
Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Ilenart626 (talk) 14:20, 6 December 2023 (UTC)