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I want to revert...

this edit.... simply because I can't stand stuffed shirt edit summaries. Also... if you go sticking $5 words into music articles most readers (especially Yanks.... did I say that :-D) wil have to go stumbling to Wictionary to find out what the word means :-D . Thankfully I am in a library I just used a book ;-D HAHA! The Real Libs-speak politely 18:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Your opinion

See User:Koda Niko Carrie. Not much there. But still using his userpage as a personal website none-the-less... right? Too strict of me. I could really care less. All I know is that 99% of his edits need to be reverted.... which is a royal pain. He needs a friendly Wikipedian to mentor him and show him the Wiki-ways of life. The Real Libs-speak politely 18:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Blocked indef as a sock of this guy User:Niko Carrie. The apple Myspacer never falls far from the tree :-D Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 21:46, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

remember him?

that block evading troll slayerXt? well, he never left apparently: User:JerryBalls From- A friend. 70.242.179.192 (talk) 21:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much, friend. Nice catch. Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 21:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

But which blocked account is 70.242.X IP socking for? The Real Libs-speak politely 13:45, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, was thinking that myself actually. I was speaking to E-man and he told me to think back to every music "mogul" I've ever interacted with. Few people would know of SlayerXT... apart from Luke the Spook... Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 13:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I've sent you an e-mail, Libs. Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 14:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

All I ever look at is my MSN hotmail email. I forgot I had the other one. I will check it once I remember the password :-D . The Real Libs-speak politely 14:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Jat clans

Scarian, thanks for responding. I may have over reacted with some of my concerns.

I have also looked at notability, and I shall perhaps try restrict some of the articles, but looking at Wikepedia, I see a number of articles on South Asian tribal groupings. In fact there are close 200 articles on various Jat related issues, so may be you have a point in the over kill. And I also accept some are badly written, and I have left a message on Pahari Sahib's user page, to discuss improving the quality of the Pakistan related pages. But I see you have deleted my entry on Muslim Rajput clans, which takes information from census commissioner's report on the 1911 census. I was orignally going to add to it to the Muslim Rajput page, but thought it was then going to be a bit long winded. I am quite happy to put this info on the Muslim Rajput page, but if I can access it again. Not sure how I can do that.

Secondly, I think most of the Jat articles relate to clans, just as we have entries on African and Native American tribes. South Asian (Afghan / Pakistani) society is essentially tribal. Tribes occupy tracts of territory, indeed the in the north west of Pakistan, the tribes their have autonomy. Many of these tribal groupings are in the news, so why are they are not notable. I see you deleted my entry on the Turkhel, who have just been involved with skirmiches with the Pakistani government.

To conclude, I am happy to restrict new entries, but some of the articles deleted are valid and make refrence to important clan communities in Pakistan.

WALTHAM2

Someone who speaks both Swedish and English, I am intrigued.

Rollback

Hi Scarian. I was wondering if you'd be willing to grant me the rollback function, as I often revert vandalism over several articles. Thanks. Timmeh! 21:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: ANI post

That was the most ludicrous co-incidence, I was just at the "add new section" page for your talkpage to say, 'thanks for the support', when I got the new-messages barrier.

Thanks for the support ;-) It does indeed cheer me up... Enjoy your weekend! ╟─TreasuryTag►contribs─╢ 21:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

COI and neutrality question

Hello Scarian. There's a biography of a living person that I have worked on in the past, and two ip users have been removing a bit referenced information from it recently. The article concerns a former member of a band and the bit of informtation is about why he left the band. The information is referenced, and comes straight from the article subject from interviews. One editor claims he/she is a friend of the article subject and the other editor claims he is the article subject. The article subject apparently wants this bit of informtion removed. I have reverted the edits because of conflict of interest and neutrality. If these editors continue, what actions should I take? Thanks.-5- (talk) 05:33, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

If they're IPs you can request that the article be protected. If they appear to be static IPs and protection doesn't work (after it expires) then you can ask an admin to block them. IPs are generally easily dealt with; it's when they start figuring out how to sock... Hope this helps! Thanks for your message and don't hesitate to ask for anything else. I'll always try my best to help :-) Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 13:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

It's been a while for this one...

The falsifier IP troll. The Real Libs-speak politely 17:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure. I made the short block because I didn't know what the history was, and on the face of it it seemed like a relatively small thing. Daniel Case (talk) 16:14, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

So tell me...

If User:Billkeever creates an article called William Keever... just how much COI is that breaking. The article is lifted almost intact, albeit with about every 5th word changed, from the US Army page about the athelete. To me Olympians are only notable if they won a medal. But I don't know Wiki's rules on it. I tend to avoid sports and politics related articles because most are run by cabals. Thoughts? The Real Libs-speak politely 00:32, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Apparently, per WP:ATHLETE, everyone who's ever competed at Olympic level is notable... *Sigh*... I gutted it though; it was a pile of self-promotional crap! Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 08:02, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Black Sabbath

Hi, please could you stop edit warring on the BS article. Please read WP:EDITWAR and WP:3RR. If you continue to edit war: Page protection and/or blocks may be issued. I will also warn Wiki Libs. Also, Theintreprid appeared out of nowhere to support you; while it's been confirmed that neither of you are socks, I would appreciate if you did not ask him to support you in content disputes. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 13:57, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning but I'm already aware of the 3RR and if you check the diffs, you'll notice I didn't engage myself into any edit war recently. I didn't even revert it twice recently. Reverting once is not what I call an "edit war".

It's been more than 3 years that I've been contributing to wikipedia and I never engaged myself into any edit war. I always played by the rules.

Besides I didn't ask anyone to help me in this dispute, I don't even know who this theintrepid is and if you believe otherwise just check his talk page and my page. And you'll see I didn't ask anything to him. So I find it excessive to be accused of this when I just didn't do it and don't plan to.

So I find it weird and unfair to be reprimended without having done anything wrong with respect to Wikipedia rules. I feel I am judged even before having done anything.

Please juge me on my acts, not on what you suppose my intentions are. After all assuming good faith is one of the rules of wikipedia as far as I know.

btw, I don't think it's hard for any native to see how my english sucks. So I find it weird that one could think I am a sockpuppet with this person. This guy seems to speak english fluently. No need to use the check user to see that. Anyway, I'm glad you did it. This proves my innocence. Fred D.Hunter (talk) 14:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

User:70.242.179.192

Hello! I noticed you recently reverted just about every edit contributed by this IP user, and thought there were a few things you should know. First, he is a highly disruptive editor that will likely ignore anything you tell him and edit any page how he sees fit. All of the edits you have undone, he will simply revert. It is also likely that this user is a sockpuppet of User:LukeTheSpook. Fezmar9 (talk) 18:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks man, I'm on his case ;-) - He's the one who got me desysopped (LukeTheSpook)! Thanks for stopping by friend! :-) Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 18:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Seaside

Hello beau, how are you? You know, I love you, Wiki Hero. Thanks for earlier ;) Puss o Kram. --Sulis^Dea 18:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks!

I try to log out from everything on my computer when I leave, and that's what happened with last evening (morning?) Also, once a week my sweetie & I use Window Washer. I will be certain to log back in if I have logged out either accidently or with purpose, before making edits.

Thanks for all you do!

PR 01:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)ProperlyRaised

An old sock and some minor formatting things

User talk:RunedChozo. Supposed to redirect to userpage, not the other way around. I would've fixed it myself, but it was full-protected. Recommend unprotection and correction of issue. Thanks, Enigma^msg 04:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Genre Warrior

We has a long term single purpose account that's simply not listening. Time for a block I think. — R² 18:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Realist. I originally blocked for a week but then I saw their talk page; I had fun blocking them indefinitely :-D Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 22:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Cheers. — R² 23:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Project Reality

Can you please specify exactly what is not neutral in the article? GeZe (talk) 22:57, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Please? GeZe (talk) 20:21, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

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I think you misunderstand, I want you to tell me the non-neutral portions of the article so they can be fixed.

In the reception portion, only quotes are used, and these in the case of IGN and GameSpy are not random quotes chosen to make PR look good, they are the sub titles of the article. I am not sure what section the PC Zone quote comes from. Maybe you want the PC Zone quote to be removed as at can't be directly sourced (print magazine)?

I am not aware of any major publication posting a negative review of Project Reality. If there was I would add it.

In the other sections of the article, I am not sure what would be non-neutral.

GeZe (talk) 22:10, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank You

Hello! thanx for fixing the typo on my User page. :D--LGK (talk) 02:30, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me?

That was my own personal sandbox. Nobody, as far as I know, bothers to even visit it. So why are you accusing me of being aggressive and confrontational on my own personal sandbox? Perhaps your understanding of English is different from mine but I do not see "don't mess with it" as being either aggressive or confrontational. I find your assumption and edit of my sandbox to be both aggressive and confrontational. You could have just left a polite message voicing your concerns on my talk page instead of taking an unilateral action and spouting off accusations of bad behavior. Where's the assumption of good faith? --Bardin (talk) 14:48, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

You want the linguistic break down? "Don't" - Contractional variant of "Do not", an imperative command. "Mess [around]", an intransitive verb, is commonly used as a colloquial expression for "creating a disorder"; this automatically implies that you are assuming people will mess around with it. A more neutral, less imperious substitute would be: "Please do not edit my sandbox" - Instead, you chose something that automatically assumes bad faith. You didn't say "please", or "thank you"... you just wanted to seem like the big alpha male who controls a whole sandbox! By the way, you'll never own anything on Wikipedia. You own nothing on Wikipedia. Either be polite and calm or go elsewhere to be controlling, aggressive, and dominant. Thanks. Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 16:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Woah, calm down. What is with the tirade? Did you have a bad day or something? I am really astonished at your behavior here. Seriously, what have I done to deserve this? Did I upset you because I voted keep on the last AFD you made? Why are you picking a fight with me? Now I'm trying my best here not to get upset myself and I'm going to try very hard to avoid using any words that might upset you even further. However, I must point out once again that your understanding of English is different from mine. I can sincerely and honestly tell you that I had no intentions whatsoever to come across as either aggressive or confrontational when I wrote those words on a little corner of wikipedia that I thought was supposed to be personal and would unlikely receive any visitors. Those are four common everyday words. "Don't" is something that is used frequently by people all over the world and I see no reason to assume an intent of aggression or confrontation when I come across it. Did you get upset when Bobby McFerrin sang Don't Worry, Be Happy? Or when you come across Don't repeat yourself, Don't be evil, Don't ask, don't tell, Don't Look Now, Don't Stop Believing, Don't Phunk with My Heart, Don't Tell a Soul , etc? Perhaps you should complain to the writers of the wikipedia essays Do not insult the vandals or Don't call a spade a spade? Or the content guideline Do not create hoaxes? As for your comment on the word "mess", you make it seem as if foresight is a bad thing. Vandalism is a frequent occurence here on wikipedia. Is it wrong then for wikipedia to assume that people will create hoaxes?

Now please, calm down. Control your temper. Whatever I have done to make you angry, please let it go. Take a look at the mirror and your own words. You have insulted me by saying that I want to seem like the big alpha male. I find that very offensive. You then taunt me by saying that I'll never own anything on wikipedia, as if I ever wanted to. That sandbox is a personal sandbox, whether you like it or not. Wikipedia itself uses the words "my" and "your" when it refers to user pages and subpages. You end off your message with an ultimatum, a threat that I should behave or get lost. Adding the word "thanks" after that does not make it any less aggressive. Where's the assumption of good faith on your part? Instead of finding out whether I intended to be aggressive or confrontational, you chose to assume that I was being so. What was so difficult of writing a short message on my talk page, something like "hey, bardin, perhaps you might want to tone down that message on your sandbox. It might give the wrong impression." I would have responded with "yeah, I guess, thanks." And all would be well with the world. Instead of writing a polite message on my talk page, you chose to accuse me of being aggressive and confrontational in removing those words yourself from my personal sandbox. I find that action of yours to be both aggressive and confrontational. I hope the irony is not lost on you. So again, where's the assumption of good faith on your part? It really seems to me that I have somehow upset you before this incident and you're just looking for an excuse to have an argument with me. Please tell me that I am wrong. I expect better from you. --Bardin (talk) 17:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

You're very right. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have been so defensive and I sounded immature and petty. You have my sincerest apologies, friend, and I can honestly say I didn't mean anything by it. I shall revert myself and strike my comments. Thanks very much for your insightful comments above; I appreciate them wholly. Sorry again, and I hope you have a really good day :-) Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 18:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Jerusalem21

Ha, what's wrong Pat? Afraid to take down a "mainstream" "journalist" and his lackeys? Grsz¹¹ 00:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Incorrect Sock report

Apologies for wasting your time on that incorrect sock report. I promise to not be as overzealous in the future. However, it seems that my heuristics were correct as said user was infact JarlaxleArtemis. It seemed very odd a new user would be editing an article barely a day old. Would you mind deleting their talk page? Thanks, --DFS454 (talk) 14:02, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

* chin up!

Thank god you do help is all I can say. --VS ^talk 06:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: rollback message

Hi there. I had never thought about it before, but having had a read through, yes that would be good, very handy! Thank you. Sky83 (talk) 16:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for doing that, that was very nice of you :). Sky83 (talk) 16:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Ha ha, I'd like to claim I could type that quickly, but really I happened to notice on my watchlist that the rights had changed and went to your talk page to say thank you before you sent the message. That was funny lol. Sky83 (talk) 16:24, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

£100

Please contribute it to the home for retired Wikipedia admins who have been overly splashed with hormone-inspired debris. (John User:Jwy talk) 21:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, you're correct that that didn't come out right! How long have you contributed to Wikipedia for? Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 21:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Started December '05. (John User:Jwy talk) 21:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow :-) - Still going strong, eh? I envy you! Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 21:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I've only made it two years and it's been a struggle. Enigma^msg 07:53, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you can survive THE basketball game, I'm not worried for your future here! (John User:Jwy talk) 15:41, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Mostly troll, so I don't get into too may "interesting" encounters - though there have been a few things amazing to watch. I may peer over your shoulder a while, looks like you have developed good ways of dealing with things that would fit with my style of interaction. Thanks for the 100. (John User:Jwy talk) 21:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

You're quite welcome. And thanks for the compliment! :-) Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 21:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow - and like a £100 is good money and would buy 2 or 3 small islands these days. You lucky Jwy. ;) --VS ^talk 22:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Iceland? (John User:Jwy talk) 15:41, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Standleylake40 / 3RR

You put a block notice on the talk page of Standleylake40, but I think you may have forgotten to actually block him, as he just made a slightly disruptive edit to the article relating to his block long before it is due to expire and after two declined requests to unblock. Hippopotamus (talk) 02:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Gerne

If you look at the talk pages of the pages I've edited them,You can find me.It's exactly the opposite.I always discuss anything I do and more often I use reliable sources.But as it seems some editors dont like visiting talk pages,they revert it without any discussion.Solino the Wolf (talk) 13:22, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your message

I've emailed you in reply to the message you left me :) – Toon^(talk) 01:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Late replies

Hi Pat. Sorry for the late reply... I've been on vacation all week. Not really a travelin' type of vacation. More like a putterin' type. Getting an early start on spring cleaning n such. Had to do a few things for Pap libs too... back n forths to appointments. I haven't had time to catch up on the Wik yet. Any trouble spots? I see the AS IP stole a convo from my talk archive to continue whining. I think I see another Spook sock on the Sum 41 related pages too. I can just imagine that there are a few new trolls to add to the Utan list. Once I get some time to patrol around I will likely post back to you about some issues. OR... maybe I will let you have a vacation :-D . OH... since I know he's eavesdroppping... Hi Rory. The Real Libs-speak politely 11:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

PS got your picture post email. I had seen it before.... he is doing the classic "I can't play guitar worth shit but if I pose with my fingers stretched out like this it will make me look like I can" pose. He is a greasy knob. :-D . The Real Libs-speak politely 11:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh man it's good to hear from you! I was starting to get worried. It's to good to hear that all is well. Re: Pic. He's probably hung it on his wall... after showing it to his Mummy and getting her approval... Hell, she probably took it... "Hey, do you know what would be a cool idea, son?" :-D Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 17:41, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

So much for a vacation

90.X is slipping around his block again. The Real Libs-speak politely 18:09, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. You got anything for me from Sum 41? Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 18:29, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Never went back to it. It looked like a new account being busy on it when I first came back this morn... which likely means a "spock" but never reviewed further. Different topic... if you have time, go here scroll to the bottom and do what needs done. Enigmaman can too if he wants. The Real Libs-speak politely 21:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

What needs to be done? The move? Enigma^msg 05:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Retards are everywhere y'know

Look at the post that comes after this. That link is officially killed. Only one more nail was required in the blacklist coffin and the link to the "unpaid" staff of NNs is all that was needed. Its hilarious if you have time to waste reading through it... most are students and most haven't even reached the age of 20... now if only metal-archives.com was blacklisted metal editors would be forced to go out and find references that don't cater to 12 year old retards. The Real Libs-speak politely 23:18, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Further to that. Prophalaniti is the busiest spammer of the fansite on Wiki right now. It wouldn't surprise me if he's one of the amateur basket weavers that contributes to the site. Look at his recent post to a British IP that reverted his addition of the link (you Brits are uber-smarty when it comes to cleaning out junk on the Wik eh!) He is basically saying 'hey, look at me I'm about to edit war' It's past history now. If I had noticed it earlier when it was still fresh I would've issued a 3RR warning :-D HAHA! The Real Libs-speak politely 23:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I should update you that long before this I spoke to Hu about getting the site blacklisted and he put s spam tracker on it so he could see who it was that was adding it the most. I think we have a winner by now :-D. Not sure if it's a COI issue. The site is Canadian (why do all the bad heavy metal sites originate here?) I have no idea where the editor hails from. Maybe he's the international moving expert :-D. The Real Libs-speak politely 23:57, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

PS: should an ignorant backhand statement like this one be struck from a section that is supposed to be a survey? The Real Libs-speak politely 00:06, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Deleting Images

The images in question are: File:Peerumboor Logo.gif and File:Peerumboor logo.gif Those two are the ones I want to delete. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

• Mr Scarian's night secretary has dealt with this request. :) --VS ^talk 10:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. :) --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

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Eye for an Eye

What Ratel did he did to shut down debate, not to uncover any nefarious sockpuppetry. I am not Andyvphil or anyone’s else’s sockpuppet. CENSEI (talk) 00:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Cite and ref tags

Hey there Scarian, I have a small question regarding citing references. I use the CITE button on the top of the toolbar, next to <ref></ref>. I generally specify a reference name and in the even that I don't, I try and go back to do it. I wanted to know, what syntax or tags I would need to use, to use a named reference again. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

For example: <ref name="Pat">[URL nameoflink] Retrieved 17th March 2009</ref> and to use it again would be <ref name="Pat"/> with the slash just before the closing bracket. Hope this helps! Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 12:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll show it in practice. And then I'll use the ref name thing at the end of this sentence. Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 12:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

References

Got it. Thanks a lot buddy. :) --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

No worries at all, man. Glad it helps! If you need anything else don't hesitate to contact me :-) Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 12:17, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I created this work entirely myself???

What the hell??? I created this work entirely myself?? Oooo... I guess we can all just start doing that now :-D . The Real Libs-speak politely 12:17, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Just got onto S and M to the...wait..... that's not it! The Real Libs-speak politely 12:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)