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Editors vs Edit warriors

An editor is creating and edit war script tool. Some people can't handle it when consensus goes against their own personal pov. And some editors take their agenda to the next level. Wiki is a funny place. 156.34.211.193 (talk) 10:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I've asked him about it. I'm rather concerned actually; this could be a whole new dimension of trouble. Scarian ^{Call me Pat} 12:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Cool

BTW.. hurrah for talk page archiving! A person can get carpal tunnel syndrome scrolling through all the friendly messages you get :D Ahoy! 156.34.142.110 (talk) 13:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Is this necessary? 156.34.142.110 (talk) 16:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[Still hoppin'] 156.34.142.110 (talk) 13:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

edit war tool in the making. Sour! Thank goodness for admin rollback when it gets used. Have a good weekend. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 14:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's an edit war tool. I believe he is making it as a solution to all this infobox and genre delimiter issues. I believe he is trying to make a new type of infobox that we can all hopefully agree on. Anyways, it's too soon to say (or accuse him, either). AGF, 156 IP man. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 18:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Kameejl/formatGenres.js

Javascript code. Kameejl ^(Talk) 13:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Assume good faith... Kameejl ^(Talk) 08:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Niger imports

Never mind the barnstar, but I am curious: Is the question for an article? Are you actually importing goods into Niger?--Pharos (talk) 23:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Friday's oppose is getting popular

see here. Scroll down until you see an oppose with a lot of comments. The RfA is about to close, probably unsuccessfully. Enigma ^message 05:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Xena and Lawless socks

Scarian, I just came across this, because of this. I suspect they're related to User:SandyGeorgia/Glitter; I think BInguyen has taken care of this, but is any more followup needed? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

ARGH

Y'know, Pat, you're cool and all and I respect you and to some degree the 156 IP man, but he pisses me OFF!! I just cannot get along with him! He insults me every time we talk and then he goes and encourages another IP, which he even knows is a sockpuppet and says as much, to go and revert my edits!!! I wanna keep the peace but he wants everything to be comma breaks and thinks I'm a total idiot. It's infuriating to argue with him! Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 22:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Have a look

Hi, Pat, how's it going? If you're not too wikibonked, have a look at WP:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Res Gestæ Divi Augusti reported by User:TheFEARgod (Result: 24 hours Re-opened: ). A user you blocked has been continuing to editwar after the block and has violated 3RR again. --Coppertwig (talk) 01:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that was fast! Did you just coincidentally come back from wikibreak right then, or do you get alerted when you get talk page messages? :-) --Coppertwig (talk) 02:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Improving Star Wars to Featured Article status

I am currently working on improving Star Wars to Featured Article status, and I noticed that you have made a substantial amount of contributions recently. If you have time, I would appreciate it if you could help out and improve the article. Right now, the primary thing that needs to be done is the addition of more references - the article simply is not referenced enough. I have added {{fact}} tags on the page, which shows up as [citation needed] to make it easier to find what information needs references. Thanks for your time! Gary King (talk) 04:03, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I honestly didn't know that about fact tags. Thanks for the heads up! Scarian ^{Call me Pat} 02:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

ha

I'm editing your talk page via the Contribute Today box on my userpage. Never seen this before. Enigma ^message 05:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Have a great weekend

Have a good weekend Pat. Good luck guarding the Wik. See you in a few days. Ahoy! 156.34.142.110 (talk) 19:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Cheers, Libsey. Have fun! Scarian ^{Call me Pat} 02:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikibonked?

What in the world does wikibonked mean? Is it just for laughs, or is it true? ^{I hope your head gets better if it's true. :(D)--RoryReloaded (talk) 20:37, 28 March 2008 (UTC)}

Bonked is a common expression meaning losing energy for something, or just being tired. If he's wikibonked, it means he's bonked from editing here, and he's taking a pseudo-wikibreak. [I must note that for someone who's bonked, he's been extraordinarily helpful to me.] :) Enigma ^message 20:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually it's been Dea who's been helping you out ;-) - And despite your sig change I'm still gonna refer to you as Enigmaman! :-D Scarian ^{Call me Pat} 02:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Good enough! The sig change was just for colors. I had "msg" in orange and now I have "message" in something else. Such is life. Enigma ^message 01:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

But I'm not bonked... Anyway, I'm going to USA with my family on the 9th. I'll be saying one last thing on the night before I go. Oh, and could you please buy some crayons to give to Alf? Thanks. RoryReloaded (talk) 20:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Now I know you don't like Alf at all. Please lift his block. RoryReloaded (talk) 21:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Happy Monthly Adminship

I just found out that you were an administrator. Happy Adminship! RoryReloaded (talk) 20:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Rory! Have a good weekend! Scarian ^{Call me Pat} 02:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Res Gestæ Divi Augusti

Thanks mate for stepping in. As you say, his contributions are good but he needs to learn to be quite a bit less aggressive about his edits, which quite often revert all intermediate edits since his previous contributions. Anyhow, no doubt you're onto it but the Res Gestæ Divi Augusti edits in dispute have all been reinstated by an IP. Unfortunately I don't think the block is getting the message though. Perhaps the articles in dispute need semi-protection? We'd all love to work with him, but he seems terminally unwilling to use talk pages. Debate (talk) 09:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Request for your review

I nominated List of universities in Bangladesh on 25 March 2008 as a Featured List candidate. So far, four editors reviewed the list and requested significant changes and modifications. I tried my level best to meet all the recommendations. It would be really nice if you also review the list and place your opinion (support/oppose). I am looking forward to receive your comments and recommendations on the nomination page. Cheers! -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 10:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Kameejl's javascript

Just so you know (as you mentioned you we're looking into it / having others look into it). Kameejl is continueing his JavaScript that will change commas to line breaks with some level of automation here. In case you missed my comment on his talk page before he erased it:

“

I can tell you what it is (was), but you already assumed correctly. It provides a function that will search through all HTML table elements and replace, guess what, commas with line breaks in some instances (oh, which could it be?). Looking over it for 30 seconds I didn't make out where this script is called, though.

”

He is trying to cloak the functionality of the script by using ludicrous variable names and not using any line breaks, but if you have a knowledgable coder look over it, this won't be much of an issue. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | ~ 15:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree. However, as with bots, the editor is responsible for his edits, so unless he doesn't do anything with the code, I wouldn't say there is much to do. My biggest concern is, and I have to assume bad faith here, that he (and others he might give the code to) could use them anonymously with IPs and socks, resulting in an almost unpreventable attack of POV pushing edits. We'll see what happens. PS: I'm a little late, but I would like to congratulate you on the admin position, you had that coming. ;-) Also, thanks for your invaluable and subjective actions and notions on the comma/linebreak issue. I, for one, have decided to stay out of it from now on. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | ~ 23:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

MSN

Added you. Btw, that 68.102 IP is back again: 68.102.236.10 (talk · contribs). Funeral 00:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

Hey man - I don't think Skilmore is actually Spooky. Simon Kilmore runs FooFightersLive.com - I'm not 100% sure, but I'd be surprised if that weren't Simon himself. (If there's a way to check the IP addresses of usernames, it might be worth a double-check, or at least removing it from the sockpuppet list until we know for certain.) -- ChrisB (talk) 01:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

About the Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 article

Hi Scarian,

You're right, in that context it would be correct, and I did notice that the first time I went through and made the "however" edit. However (no pun intended ;-) ), the fact that games are often delayed in Europe, particularly in Germany, is something that is so commonplace nowadays in 7th generation gaming that I felt that the Germany sentence could've been a neutral sentence, followed by a "however" sentence.

You're also right about the CAPITALS I used in my edit summary. Is it possible to bold/italicize in edits? As long as I've been on Wikipedia, I've never experimented with that. X__X Neil the Cellist (talk) 13:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: English vs. American on the Stones' page

Those corrections may be ones you'll have to make. I know of a few words spelled differently in the UK (like colour and now rumour), but most feature changes I'll probably forget to make. I understand the Stones' talk page just went through Holy War over this and I purposely stayed out of it because I think it's a rather silly conversation to have (though you probably feel otherwise). So if I should do it again just make any necessary changes yourself as I'm clueless to the minute differences. But thank you for the heads up. Stan weller (talk) 19:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

It's Stan, not Steve, but that may be the British spelling. And you blocked Mr. A? He may be a bit demonstrative, but he did a lot of good work for the Stones article. I always told him he should make it official. Stan weller (talk) 21:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Improving Half-Life (video game) to Featured Article status

I am currently improving Half-Life (video game) to Featured Article status and noticed that you have made substantial contributions to the article recently. If you have time, please help out by improving the article however you can. Thanks! Gary King (talk) 00:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Message

Hello, Scarian. You have new messages at Steve Crossin's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

GSNGuy...

Actually, GSN and I have a history; along with vandalizing my talk page and User:Mrschimpf, he's also tried on several occasions to get each of our passwords (via "change password".) He goes for TV shows and stations, or at least his socks do. I really think this is him.Gladys J Cortez 02:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Goodnight, and thanks!Gladys J Cortez 02:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Block didn't go through?

See here. Enigma ^message 04:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Sock case

Hello, could you explain why you closed Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Deucalionite? It was quite early and had drawn hardly any comments yet. Fut.Perf. ☼ 05:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah, okay, no problem. I've relisted it on the main page. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Borisyy sockpuppetry

Hi. You declined to take any action on my report, on the grounds that there was "Not enough evidence I'm afraid. Only one diff.". If you look at this user's history, you will see a consistent use of sockpuppets making this identical edit, and then being abandoned. Since the content of these edits relates to a libel victory by the subject of this article, and the edits challenge this and repeat the original libel, it is extremely important that we get this right. I would like to see a "block on sight" policy adopted against these defamatory BLP attacks. In fact, it may be best to request page protection. RolandR (talk) 08:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Please! For the love of...

Block 68.102.236.10 quickly!!! You've reverted some of his edits recently. Every single one of his edits are vandalismm, usually changing genres for metal bands. STOP HIM!!! He's making so mnay edits it's hard to keep up and revert them all!!!!!!! Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 23:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I reverted all its edits and gave it a final warning. Enigma ^message 23:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, he's continuing to edit, though, and vandalize for that matter. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 23:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Scarian blocked the IP. All the edits are reverted. Enigma ^message 23:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to the both of you!! And I do try, Pat, though it would seem certain users will try anything to get me. All I wanna do is help, avoid the politics as much as possible, keep the peace and do some good ol' editing/ protecting to wikipedia. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 23:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

No, it's me...

I am trying to retire but recently put a lock on my monobook to prevent editing, so have had to edit through an IP. 24.218.182.169 (talk) 23:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

May I undo your reversions? --24.218.182.169 (talk) 23:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

There is no need to remove it because your quiting. If you do i will renominate it myself, why would you want to harm wiki? If you remove it i will nominate it myself, it will achieve nothing. Realist2 (talk) 23:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

guess who this is? Anyway, I did the same thing to my monobook. I then tried to archive most of my talk page, but I got reverted twice and then got a 4im vandalism warning. Whattaday. Not even allowed to archive my talk page./ :( 68.237.239.228 (talk)

unfortunate coincidence that I also start with 68. Anyway I got a fake block and a real block all in one day. Two warnings too. I'm so proud. I guess. 68.237.239.228 (talk)

I'm going to sleep. No more blocks please? *pinky* 68.237.239.228 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

shakes off cobwebs* Is it really me? Am I back? What's going on!? They call me X Really 22:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet?

I have filed a requests for checkuser on you as a sock over at WP:RFCU. (You can use this alt link if it's not there). Wizardman 00:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Nothing in common, but we may be related! Bearian (talk) 01:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I must admit, I did notice both of you in the midst of engaging in trench warfare with the deletion-happy Eyrian and wondered on the rhyming thing whether there was a connection....(given all the socks that turn up among the deletion-happy) :) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Rats, broiled again! Bearian (talk) 01:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

April Fools

I guess it is 1 April on Wiki but I still think it's March 31st. Non Curat Lex (talk) 00:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

If living in the time zone I am in is wrong I don't want to be right. Non Curat Lex (talk) 01:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

(Especially since the weather is so darn perfect here!)

Administrator nomination

Uh, is this an April Fool's joke or something? It must be. You nominating me as an admin??? I mean, either way I'm completely honored, because even if it's an April Fool's thing, at least you took the time to pull this gag on me. Whether real or not, though, I think I'm gonna have to decline. I wouldn't mind being an admin, but I'm not sure I'm ready. I especially appreciated this,

He's a great guy. Lots of vandalism fighting experience. Totally deserves the mop.

on my nomination page coming from you, but like I said idk if I'm ready (whether this be April Fool's or not). I'm sure I could get the nomination as I have more friends than enemies, but let's face it, there are people who really don't like me. Heck, even your friend the 156 IP man absolutely detests me, and let's not forget Funeral and definitely Twsx (who lays in wait always, ready to "get me" at any chance he gets). Now, I don't normally care who dislikes me, but I think it's best I wait a while to become an admin anyways, though I sincerely appreciate your nomination. It means a lot coming from you. Was this an April Fool's prank, though? Anyways, thanks. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 20:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm surprised, I gotta say and still honored. Idk, you are definitely tempting me...

Perhaps I can think about this for a bit? Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 21:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'm thinking about it more and I haven't quite decided but I have a question for you. One thing I thought about is: Does being an admin mean you have to be on more? Do you have a responsibility/obligation to make even more edits and protect more things, etc.? I mean, if I'm an admin I do intend to do those things but one thing I worry about is that I may not always be on. I mean I almost never get on in the weekends and there will be times when I'm gone for a month or so (this will probabaly happen only a few times a year). Is that ok? Or no? Well, I'll be reading more of the guides and stuff about adminship now. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 21:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol, I also see you've been going block-happy *winks*. Cows are pink, indeed. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 22:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

your sig

Unless "Scarian is a crack whore" is truly part of your WP sig, then it seems that someone has either hacked your sig or is impersonating you, or some such shenanigans. See here. Either way, the credibility of this "warning" is reduced to nil. RedSpruce (talk) 01:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

So April Fool's is your day to post serious messages that no one in their right mind would take seriously? I'd say that's of dubious wisdom. As for your comment "I see you have entered into discussion with Richard. That is progress." That shows a profound lack of knowledge about the situation you've chosen to insert yourself into. I have always tried to engage in discussion when I've disputed edits by RAN (or anyone else), either in the talk page or at least with meaningful edit summary comments. It has always been RAN who has refused to engage in discussion, as he is currently doing at Talk:Annie Lee Moss#Image caption, for example. He has made a great many edits since I posted my question to him there, but he (as is typical for him) hasn't answered -- just as he left no edit summary comment on his multiple reverts of my edit in this edit dispute. Perhaps you could encourage him to engage in proper discussion by posting a message (not necessarily a "warning") on his Talk page. If you do so, please use a proper sig.

Thanks -- RedSpruce (talk) 01:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Can you please look into what this dude is doing, he has since 2007 been going around all of wikipedia changing numbers to fit his agenda, pulling them directly from his behind to your screen can you please look into this and block him, lately he has started using homemade references replacing real books and of course he continues to revert to the numbers that he has pulled from his behind also he created a new dude called "Bertil124" that also reverts to his edits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bertil124

Shipseggsbasket (talk) 07:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I have blocked User:Irtehprwn‎ for 48 hours. Please inform me if he returns and edit wars again. Please also be aware that his edits aren't vandalism per se and that means that you can't revert more than 3 times yourself. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 10:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Spooky

I think the only thing that's going to stop him is his refusal to grasp Wikipedia guidelines. He certainly doesn't know about 3RR. He's also been waging a long-term edit war at The Colour and the Shape over one sentence. (He spent weeks refusing to discuss it, which basically justified reversion as a vandal edit. Once he established himself as Spooky, he started making pedantic arguments as to why it should be removed - nothing about content or guidelines, more that it should be removed because it was "in parentheses".) I can practically guarantee that he will find a way to remove that sentence sometime in the next 24 hours, blocking be damned. -- ChrisB (talk) 07:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Revert fictional cats

Why revert? If Bast belongs certainly does Maahes and the Beast certainly does even if Puma doesn't, theres no evidence that the Beast isn't genetically getting mutated to be more similar to a domestic cat and hes got that flat nose cat look. In addition he meets a fictional cat who becomes a mutant cat human. Read the talk before you revert please, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 11:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC) Hey, if you want to make it up to me, stat The Fox and the Cat article and I'll put some stuff into it, get it at least as well off as The Cat and the Mice —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 12:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC) Maybe The Cat in the Adage too, although that mostly seems to exist only as referenced in MacBeth, still I don't think the Lady Mackers ever explains what the adage was —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 12:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Block of Irtheprwn

Hi Scarian. Technically, the account Irtheprwn is a sock of Irthpr, I think the account should be indeffed (as I did to another sock), but I did not want to do that without consulting you. Irtheprwn is used more than the original account, maybe Irtheprwn should be marked as master account?

By the way, I am not happy with the way Shipseggsbasket is handling the situation ... Hope to hear more. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:41, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, I've unblocked and reblocked the sock account for indef. The master account I've blocked for 48 hours. If he uses socks again then I'll indef. I was a bit hesitant to take any action agains Shipseggsbasket as those numbers were pretty unsourced and Irthpr was editing rather aggressively. I'll ask that Ships refrains from getting involved in any edit wars and reports the user(s) directly to an admin. Thanks for your note, friend. If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 13:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, this is fine. I am poking a wikiproject (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history, not much useful response, yet) about Inthpr's sources, the sources seem OK, and they do give the numbers Inthpr is adding. I will keep an eye on Shipseggsbasket as well, they really should take a step back, in my opinion Shipseggsbasket did violate WP:BITE and WP:AGF quite strong and could have earned a block way earlier, S. never discussed with Inthpr, S. just assumed the numbers were wrong and reverted. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Enigmaman

I was assuming good faith. Enigmaman had a good faith belief that Michaelm 22 was a vandal, but it was careless of him to have formed such a belief when there was not one scrap of evidence to support such a view, beyond the bare fact of (Blanked the page) edit summaries. Assuming bad faith would have involved calling Enigmaman's actions malicious or somesuch thing, which they clearly were not. I'm baffled by your claim that warning was necessary on the evidence available; surely this evidence included the diffs Enigmaman himself linked to, which were clearly nondisruptive? Algebraist 16:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Replies: Blanking pages is improper whether the user thinks the content is appropriate or not. There are ways of going about things. Going around repeatedly blanking pages is not the way to go. 68.237.250.13 (talk) 17:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

What the

What do you mean by this? RoryReloaded (talk) 08:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I just thought I'd block Alf because I dislike him. I hope that's okay. See you! Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 10:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I fully support Pat's decision in this case. It was warranted. Enigma ^message 13:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I can't believe what I'm hearing! If you must know, Alf is my No.1 best friend on Wiki, followed by Spellcast, and then you. Why is everything not going my way when I have blepharitis? --RoryReloaded (talk) 20:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I think YOU could be blocked yourself, because that doesn't go into accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy. You block people for vandalism and the whatnot, not because you don't like them. RoryReloaded (talk) 20:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. I don't see what the problem is with admins blocking random people they don't like. Seems perfectly justified to me. Enigma ^message 21:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

O.K. 3 words. WHAT A JOKE. This is outrageous! I should tell Mr. Alf right now what you are saying. He hasn't edited in days thanks to your silly block. RoryReloaded (talk) 07:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

If you want, you can file an RfC on Scarian for his block. I personally have no problem with it, but I see that you do. Enigma ^msg Review 07:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Fine. I will. But how? RoryReloaded (talk) 07:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You follow the instructions. Look at the link I provided. Provide the diffs as evidence. For example, in this diff, Scarian clearly admits to blocking Alf for a "personal dislike" as opposed to a legitimate blocking reason under the blocking policy. Main page for RfC on User conduct. If you want, you can look at a different RfC like this one to see how they put theirs together. Don't be discouraged. Sometimes filing a report can seem difficult and arduous, but this is how you learn! Good luck, Enigma ^msg Review 07:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Been there, done that. RoryReloaded (talk) 07:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Not bad. It needs work, though. it's not listed in the right place on the page. maybe it's for the best Maybe I can help you after I get some sleep. I'm really tired. Man, Scarian is gonna be mad when he sees this. But hey, he made his bed, let him sleep in it. Enigma ^msg Review 07:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Well. He is going to block me for no reason. Oh no. RoryReloaded (talk) 08:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I really don't know what the best procedure is now, Rory. I mean, you properly submitted it to RfC, and Scarian's sockpuppet removed it. Clearly Scarian has some kind of mysterious control over Wikipedia. Maybe best if you lie low for a while. Scarian and his buddies/socks are out looking for ways to abuse their power. Someone even unearthed evidence of one of his socks, which also has admin powers. The report was filled out properly and was conclusive, in my opinion, but it was promptly reverted. They won't allow the truth to be known. I have evidence of several improper blocks (not just Alf's) and other abuse of admin tools, but I can't use it. Maybe I'll start an off-wiki forum where we'll be safe. Enigma ^msg 19:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

He should be ashamed of himself. He should also be blocked indef because he uses sockpuppets, as you said. What are we going to do? --RoryReloaded (talk) 20:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I heard once that for the worst cases, you send them to WP:ArbCom. But what if Scarian controls ArbCom as well? Enigma ^msg 20:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol!!! What a hilarious conversation. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 20:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Erm... that will be bad. Oh, no offence, Navnlos, but this is not hilarious. For one thing, me and Enigma are dicussing one of Scarian's illegitimate blocks on Alf, which he did for absolutely no reason. But I don't mind if you join in. RoryReloaded (talk) 20:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Is this the sock you were talking about, Enigma? RoryReloaded (talk) 20:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

ArbCom baffles me. RoryReloaded (talk) 20:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You're right, it's very intimidating. Nav, this is serious business here. Yes, that user you linked to, I'm pretty sure it's one of Scarian's many socks. Don't approach it. Enigma ^msg 20:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I've reported Scarian on ANI and done exactly as Scarian said. Well, this means here and now that Scarian is supposedly supporting my decision to report him. Strange... RoryReloaded (talk) 20:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey wait a minute. Scarian's block on Alf isn't there! On his log! What a strange occurence. RoryReloaded (talk) 21:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello Again

I am 98% certain that the dude (User:Irtehprwn) is evading the block by editing from a different ip, his edits are identical to those before and he has jumped in editing the same articles to the exact same text as the dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.142.24.146 Shipseggsbasket (talk) 14:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy

Looks like you've already violated it.... :) Rudget (review) 17:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Format of vandalism warning

Noticed you warned the user for vandalism in User talk:Ideleted which shows the difference where was the vandalism. The text "recent edit" shows the difference. How you did this, using twinkle or by anything other. I use twinkle to warn vandals, but my script does not have anything feature like this. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a feature of the most recent releases of WP:HUG, which automatically links to the diff when warning. Enigma ^message 19:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

OMFG stp stlkin mez!!!!!111!!!11! Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 19:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Shut it, you. Quit complaining!!!! Enigma ^message 20:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes sir :-( Pat wipes away a tear... Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 20:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks to you both. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 20:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Crap

Crap, I have absolutely no idea how that happened. I'm really sorry about that. Seems you beat me to a revert, and I reverted it on accident. Sorry about that, I assure you it wasn't deliberate. Steve Crossin (talk to me) 20:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy response, please

I had a couple of questions for you, Pat. For some reason people keep asking me questions about things as if they think I know and sometimes I do, but idk why everyone thinks I have the answer. One is about User:Arisedrink who's account is a vandal only account, though it is not very active. He has gotten warned multiple multiple multiple...(I think you get the picture) times and he always blanks his talk page. Another user asked me if this can be seen as a bad faith effort or something (I'm guessing he wants to get Arisedrink into more trouble, which I don't have a problem with as he should be banned indefinitely). As far as I know a user can do w/e the hell they want with their talk page pretty much (except expouse profane things about themselves/ others that are offensive) but I just wanted to ask you to make sure. Secondly, I have another question for you that involves an admin (User:J Milburn) who keeps editing a lot of metal pages to get rid of album pictures in the article. In other words the pages are like this (look at the albums section) and J Milburn keeps editing them to look like this. He claims that the album covers being in the article like that are in violation of non-free content criteria. And he's making some people mad, including User:A Sniper who is a great editor and has dedicated much of his time to the Death article among other articles (others having to do with religion, law and some bands). It is my personal opinion that no one should be messing with A Sniper's edits on these pages (especially Death) because he knows what he is talking about. Either format doesn't bother me too much, although I do kinda enjoy seeing the album covers right there on the article page. I just wanted to ask if Milburn is within the scope of the rules in doing what he did and if he has a leg to stand on. Thanks. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 22:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

1) User:Arisedrink's edits don't look too auspicious. He seems to be quoting policies and his edits don't look like obvious vandalism. If there is enough suspicion of sockpuppetry, file a report at WP:SSP (or get someone else to) and I can take a look at it then. In regards to the users' talk page, he can blank it if he so wishes. It's usually regarded as "okay" to blank your talk page (but archiving is preferred) after warnings to show you've seen and recognised them.

2) User:J Milburn is a pretty experienced admin so, superficially, I'd assume anything he does it on the level. In terms of "Is he allowed to do that?" - Yup, 'fraid so. Generally, as you know, if there is a free content route available then we take that one. I've seen plenty of discog. sections like that. If all the album covers are free and in the public domain, however, then it'd be okay to have pics of them up in a gallery.

Thanks for coming to me, Daniel. I hope this clears up any queries. If you have any more don't hesitate to come contact me. Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 23:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. As for Arisedrink, yes his edit summaries quote policies but that is just a smoke screen. He purposely ruins the Maddox article whenever he gets a chance. Me and some other editors fought him and a bunch of other sockpuppets (who all got blocked thanks to me) but he was purposely destroying the page. But anyways, he's small fry, so to speak, and I'm not too worried about him.

As for the free content and fair use thing, I think a lot of it is garbage. How are those images of the albums going to destroy the article or make it less encyclopedic? Anyways, I just wrote on my page some of my reasoning in thinking that the fair use things needs to be revised. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 23:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If you have image questions (I'm not the best guy, I rarely do image deletions as I have hardly any clue) then the best place is here: Wikipedia:Image copyright help desk. They'll advise you much more than I ever could. Hope this helps! Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 23:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...but I probabaly won't do anything. I'm just gonna stop caring. Too much bureaucratic and political bullshit/nonsense. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 23:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Block we discussed on my page

Just thought you should see this [1]. I can almost guarantee they are the same person. I'm going to open a sock case against EJBanks (talk · contribs) with these "two" as his puppets. What do you think? KellyAna (talk) 15:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppets

I have evidence from Enigma that this is one of your many socks. RoryReloaded (talk) 20:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I was blocked by a sock of Scarian about this time last year. The similarity is astounding. Of course, it was because I liked Iron Maiden, not Motorhead. "Scarian" took offence and blocked me. Not only from Wikipedia, but... the whole of civilised society! I made a big thing of it, and next thing you know my credit cards had been "mysteriously" cancelled, I was evicted from my house because the landlord said I didn't exist anymore. And the worst of all, I couldn't buy socks anywhere. Or coat hangers. It was crazy. I am now only just reclaiming my life, so please tread carefully. I wish to remain anonymous, please. 86.162.65.207 (talk) 21:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh no! Scarian is in big trouble. What a joke. That is disgusting. Jimbo shall hear of this! RoryReloaded (talk) 21:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Wtf is going on here? Enigma ^msg 21:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a conspiracy. Look "they" even deleted this section of the conversation. 86.162.65.207 (talk) 21:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, well, well Mister 86.162X... I see you have returned... but not for long! Pat cracks out his lightsabre! Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 21:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, heavens above. There goes my ability to buy assorted gourmet sausages from the local butchery again! And I only just got used to my lemon and leek chipolatas again after all this time in sausage purgatory... :( 86.162.65.207 (talk) 21:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Look! I've been blocked! Is there no end to your skullduggery, you cad? 86.162.65.207 (talk) 21:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Alf, have you changed internets?! :-O Prepares his blocking templates... - You've evaded a block for the last time, mister! Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 21:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You don't scare me! I know your game... Scrabble, Ludo... Monopoly. 86.162.65.207 (talk) 21:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

KOS? Is that you!??? Enigma ^msg 21:28, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh my God! RoryReloaded (talk) 21:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Ai Ai Ai Ai Ai! I fight for the Alf side, the mighty side! gets his lightsaber ready for action OhhohhohhOhhOhh! Prepare to meet your doom! RoryReloaded (talk) 21:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I will join you! With my... erm, birthday candle. In the shape of a 6. It is lit, be warned. Can cause a bit of singeing. Quite painful until you apply some local anaesthetic, at least. 86.162.65.207 (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Banzai! You will lose this WikiWar with my foam sword! Both of them! Goes into position--RoryReloaded (talk) 21:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Give us a clue, Mister 86! Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 21:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

What? And have you send the heavy boys round to borrow my last pint of milk again! No fear. 86.162.65.207 (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Banzai! --RoryReloaded (talk) 21:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Using small ornamental Japanese trees as weapons now, eh? – B.hotep ^u/_t• 21:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Silly Australians. Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 21:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't be a racist, Mr. RoryReloaded (talk) 05:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Charge! Prepare to be vapourised with my... glass of milk. I have lots of proof from experimenting at home that milk makes quite a stench like these do. So... Banzai and Crikey at the same time! RoryReloaded (talk) 21:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for fixing "wikipedia" to "Wikipedia". Cheers, --Be happy!! (talk) 13:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries :-) Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 13:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

cbragg discussion

uhh, what exactly was "unproductive" about discussing something about cbragg?

please point out what part of this you object to, and why cbragg has to be "protected" from it... on what exactly are you basing your objection to "trustfundia"? you're not from brooklyn, are you? is it because you haven't heard the word before? now that's just plain ignorant my friend. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.133.211 (talk) 14:08, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

An IP that you blocked

Hello. IP 69.123.126.247, which has a previous block issued by you, has been causing trouble. There is a sockpuppet tag on the IP talk page that connects the IP to a user named Dan56. Dan56 repeated one edit that the IP did ealier this weekend and also has a previous block from you. Both are determined to add text directly copied from Amazon.com message boards and then use the message boards as thin references for the pasted content. Can you help? Thank you. Fair Deal (talk) 20:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Racism off onto an Aussie, EH?

Pardon my French, but this link directs to a page which you used when you said "Silly Australians". Just thought I'd tell you. RoryReloaded (talk) 21:20, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

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Healthy

OK. It is World Youth Day. No, don't tell me... Ah! World Health Day! Make sure you stay healthy, even over here. Or there. Wherever you are, stay healthy! RoryReloaded (talk) 08:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Blocking

You blocked KOS too? AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! --RoryReloaded (talk) 08:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Rock2Wgtn image

Hello Pat! You sure have a lot of action on your talk page these days.

Well, I was trying to post up an image on the Rock2Wgtn page and ran into another problem. I am trying to figure it out now. The image is stuck in limbo perhaps? If you have time can you check it out for me. I appreciate your help always. Great. Electric Japan (talk) 11:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

It is I, James in Japan. Remember. I am A-Okay with you and everybody.

I got a picture stuck. It won't post on the Rock2Wgtn page.

Thank you for the help.

Electric Japan (talk) 11:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I apologize

I told another user I am trying a new vandal tool and I made a mistake on it. I'm sorry for any inconvenience but I believe I rolled back my edit. Sorry. SwirlBoy 39 19:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)