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Your opinion…

Hi Sca- I’m planning to put this up and (given your knowledge/interest in the region) wanted to make sure there are no factual errors, and whether they work as a pair or a single would be better. For example, on the 1616 Lithuania coin, is that the proper coat of arms? Any thoughts are welcome. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 02:11, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, they're interesting to me, but contrast seems a bit low and inscriptions are Latin, so they might be less accessible to average readers. (Of course, I'd support.) The coats of arms appear to be correct for the period.

At the time the two coins were issued, both Danzig and Lithuania were part of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. You could nominate them together, or you could nominate them separately as they were ethnically quite different – the first being German, the second mainly Lithuanian. But it's technically not quite correct to say that one was from Poland and the other from Lithuania, since the two then were politically the same country.

The region's history is complicated to say the least. Some background:

• Danzig - historically rendered Gdańsk in Polish, though inhabited overwhelmingly by ethnic Germans up to 1945 – became part of what was known as Royal Prussia as a result of the Second Peace of Thorn in 1466. Politically, Royal Prussia was a Polish province. This was a delayed result of of the victory of the allied Poles and Lithuanians over the Order in a big battle in 1410, usually known in English as the First Battle of Tannenberg. (Poland and Lithuania merged into the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1569.)

• The remainder of the monastic state of the Teutonic Order, which dated from the 13th century, later became known as Ducal Prussia – after it was secularized (and Lutheranized) in 1525. Although initially enfeoffed to the Polish crown as a kind of client state, this duchy became part of Brandenburg in the 17th century, which then as the Kingdom of Prussia took Royal Prussia from Poland in the 18th century.

• Thereafter the combined Prussian province became East Prussia — until 1945, when at Stalin's behest it was divided between Poland the the Soviet Union. East Prussia, however, did not include Danzig, which prior to WWI was part of West Prussia, and in the interwar period was the Free City of Danzig (which as you know issued its own currency, labeled Freie Stadt Danzig.)

But I do go on. Hope that's not too confusing. Sca (talk) 14:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But it's technically not quite correct to say that one was from Poland and the other from Lithuania, since the two then were politically the same country. - That's exactly what I was wondering about, and very helpful overall. I'll make changes. I may keep them together because they are both in the Sigismund article (most important), and the ducat article (lesser importance), but I'll play around and see what works. I knew you were the person to consult with on this one...-Godot13 (talk) 15:22, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There will be a quiz on the historical material on Monday. Sca (talk) 15:29, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Man, I thought I left my quiz days behind... I made some edits to the coin nomination and wondered if you could take one more peek. The numismatic references (not that they know all facets of history) claim, because of the privy marks on the back of the second coin (1616), it was struck in the Lithuanian Treasury (specific treasurer added to the text). Simply, if it doesn't make sense as a set, then I'm not going to put it up that way. Again, thanks for your input, it is much appreciated.--Godot13 (talk) 03:47, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For you

Skål!

A skål for you! the Gentleman's Table was too crowded. The women were to buttery. Hope this last will be satisfactory. Hafspajen (talk) 10:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

She's just tu, tu tenderhearted-looking. Sca (talk) 16:26, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. Hafspajen (talk) 16:29, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Attacks – (Not an error, but...) ... suggest caption Memorial to victims of the Paris attacks be shortened to Memorial to Paris victims

Since somebody keeps trying to downplay that terrorists were responsible for these attacks, your suggestion indirectly plays into their hands. I'm curious about the rationale behind your suggestion. Are you just interested in brevity? If so, then I would suggest that accuracy trumps brevity. Victims did not just become victims, like a cloud that passes over a town and drops rain. Victims became victims due to attacks. I'm not sure why myself or others have to continually point this out. Viriditas (talk) 05:23, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My private Idaho (und Berlin)

I actually wonder if we've ever talked about the fact that you live in Idaho? I did spend a month there (in Preston) some eleven years ago! :) Zwerg Nase (talk) 11:45, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good grief! What were you doing there, of all places? I had to look it up just to see where it is – right in the heart of LDS country. Ergh.

There's an old joke about Idaho that most Europeans wouldn't understand, but maybe you will:

A) Did you know Idaho is the only state with two capitals?

B) No, really?

A) Yeah – Spokane and Salt Lake City.

Sca (talk) 13:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! :) Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:04, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Our paths seem to cross more and more. Now you have that wonderful photo there of Liebermann's villa, which is in the district where I work politically. Zwerg Nase (talk) 21:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you like my personal TFP. The thing that first caught my eye about this photo was the warm but subdued lighting, which seemed appropriate for this time of year (although it was taken in Feb.).

I'm thinking of expanding the Liebermann article by translating some more from German WP. Last year I translated our Hans Baluschek article and collaborated with Hafspajen on the illustrations. I think that's one of my better WP contributions.

Wenn ich mit dich in Wannsee herum bummeln könnte, das würde ein Genuss sein. Sca (talk) 21:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Baluschek is really a pretty good article! Why didn't you nominate it for GA? Short correction: Wenn ich mit Dir.... I know, our articles are the worst... Zwerg Nase (talk) 22:41, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote it that way at first, but then thought maybe I should change it. German grammar is my downfall. (Do I need sein?) Sca (talk) 22:51, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the sein is necessary if you use würde. But more common would be: das wäre ein Genuss. There it works without the Hilfsverb. A German teacher would probably even tell you that using würde is grammatically wrong. My teacher used to say (and in this case I hope you get the pun): Deutsch ist eine würdelose Sprache. Zwerg Nase (talk) 23:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Das wäre ein Genuss" versteh ich sofort – viel einfacher.

When I first learned German in high school, we followed a "coversational" method that didn't emphasize grammar. At the university I had several German lit. classes. I still remember listening to the instructor discuss Schopenhauer one day, auf deutsch, and suddenly thinking, "Hey, I understand this!" I also remember in 1971 asking a railroad employee in Belgium, "Fährt dieser Zug nach Köln?", and when he answered "Ja" I was thrilled.

Sca (talk) 01:37, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, those are great memories! One of the first things I did in the U.S. was have lunch and we went to Subway. And that was my first time in a Subway ever. I was really intimidated by the fact how many decisions I would need to make and communicate in English. But when I had the sub in my hand, I was proud ;) Zwerg Nase (talk) 10:37, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And then you took a bite, and weren't so proud after all. Sca (talk) 14:39, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I do like Subway... Zwerg Nase (talk) 23:57, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Peace

Okay, I'll bury the hatchet here then, although I am sure there must be some template for it, of which I am unaware. (Ich habe beide die Deutsche Sprache und Gus Van Sant ja gern, und will keine andere Unterbrechung bewirken, seit My Own Private Idaho is das erste seiner Filme das ich mit der Liebe meines Lebens gesehen habe.) μηδείς (talk) 22:12, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I will fight no more forever – or at least for a while. Sca (talk) 01:26, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Danebod

Hello, Sca -- I am about to begin copy-editing the article on Danebod (in response to a request at WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests), and I was looking at the photo in the infobox. I thought it was a really nice-looking building, and I wondered what it was. I clicked on the image, and it just says "a building" in Danebod. Didn't you say you had lived in Minnesota at one point? Do you know what this building is, or do you know how we could find out? I think it would be nice to add a caption there (if captions are allowed in infoboxes) saying what building it is. Happy Thanksgiving! Corinne (talk) 21:45, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Corinne,

Yeah, I grew up in Minneapolis, but never have been to Tyler and know nothing about the Danes there. However, quick Net search turns up info that it's the Danebod Folk School.

Gobble gobble! Sca (talk) 22:27, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Thank you. It sounds like an interesting place. Corinne (talk) 22:31, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe – if you like akvavit. – Sca (talk) 22:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've never tasted it. Corinne (talk) 00:22, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's always a first time. Sca (talk) 01:00, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Kitten

Thought it deserved attention, even if I didn't think it'd necessarily pass. And I can be a little trollish at times, so long as it's harmless, you know. =)

Plus, the restoration I'm working on has been going on for ages, with no sign of finishing soon. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:30, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What is it, if one may pry into your secret machinations? Sca (talk) 01:09, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden^(talk) 16:51, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nadolig Llawen

Martinevans123^{Santas Grotto} ... sends you warmest wishes for a:

"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"

May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace! ... And "Mele Kalikimaka" (Hawaiian Merry Christmas)!!

Merry Christmas!

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Robert McClenon (talk) 02:17, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merry christmas to you as well...

...and a happy new year! :) Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:54, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And Yuletide greetings from me, as well

Wishing you twelve nights and days of warmth, happiness and conviviality this Midwinter. Yngvadottir (talk)

Happy Christmas!

Hope your Christmas goes very well! Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 01:19, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that was nice! (pic on top)

"And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,

I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."

Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)

Hafspajen (talk)is wishing you a Merry Christmas.

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Spread the cheer by adding {{Subst:Xmas4}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Wonderful holidays

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year! --Tremonist (talk) 15:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings

	Season's Greetings
	A very happy holidays to you! --Godot13 (talk) 06:20, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is

Aha. I wonder if the unit of area should be translated as rood? In English, a rod is a measure of distance (16 feet).

Who's Houghton? Sca (talk) 14:30, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Öh, well, some guy... (?)By the way, who's Houghton you are asking about? Hafspajen (talk) 20:32, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Best wishes for the holidays... II

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Hafspajen (talk) 11:53, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FPCs

Come here to show these FPCs:

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Sediment in the Gulf of Mexico
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Diagram of the Sun — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlanetUser (talk • contribs) 05:19, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PlanetUser, there is a much more and a simple way of doing it, put it up at Template:FPC urgents, as a FPC needing feedback. Hafspajen (talk) 12:54, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016

Thank you for your support and wishes, returned with my review, and the peace bell by Yunshui! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:47, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year, Sca! I hope 2016 is a good year for you. Best wishes,

– Corinne (talk) 17:36, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the no vote at ITN

I always enjoy you quashes. μηδείς (talk) 02:38, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

S'war nichts; Sca's quashes are always a sign of good luck and holiday cheer. μηδείς (talk) 17:46, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bin verwirrt. Sca (talk) 18:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sasquatch. μηδείς (talk) 02:24, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A few more winter paintings

I found the article I was looking for. It's Bruno Liljefors. He painted scenes from nature, and there are a few nice winter scenes. Have you seen them before? Corinne (talk) 02:53, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New to me. I like his people portraits better than his wildlife pictures. Paintings of animals generally underwhelm me. (Example: Rudolf Koller, which I translated for Haffy in '14.) Sca (talk) 13:37, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link to the Koller article. I had never heard of him. I'll read the article later, but what was it supposed to be an example of? You wrote, "Example:". Just an example of paintings of animals? Of paintings you like better than Liljefors'? Corinne (talk) 15:00, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just paintings of animals, which in most cases I don't care for. But here's an exception I rather like. Sca (talk) 15:04, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's nice. Do you prefer modern art generally? Or just for animals? Corinne (talk) 15:20, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, I like the Impressionists and their various successors, including the Secessionists, and Critical Realists like Baluschek (right). I'm not intellectual enough to be into really modern art, such as cubism or surrealism.

You? Sca (talk) 15:58, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see from my user page, I like the art from the early 20th century. I had never heard of the Secessionists, though. Thanks for providing a link. I like Emile Nolde's colors. I like Ernst Ludwig Kirchner. Ernst Oppler seems a bit old-fashioned. You wouldn't call Franz Marc modern? (That painting of the yellow cow looks a little like Marc Chagall's paintings, doesn't it?) I don't know why, but I really like Hans Baluschek. I don't really like the really modern artists like Jasper Johns, Jackson Pollack, and the Color field artists. I suppose there is a lot of other modern art that I might like if I took the time to look into it, go to galleries, etc. Corinne (talk) 20:41, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Baluschek has a basic honesty about him.

Kirchner is, um, interesting....

I do like Chagall.

How do you feel about Klimt? I'll bet you like his stuff. (I do.)

Fritz von Uhde is a more obscure German artist, maybe too representational for you. Some of his works I like, but others are kinda hokey.

Čiurlionis is about as abstract as I usually get. Sca (talk) 22:43, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

PS:

Q: Why did the artist cross the road?

A: To get away from the Jackson Pollack exhibit.

Sca (talk) 01:33, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

[reply]

I like Fritz von Uhde. I like paintings of real people doing ordinary things. I'm sorry to say that I don't like either Klimt or Čiurlionis. Both are too contrived for me. Corinne (talk) 04:40, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be sorry. Everyone to (their?) own taste. Sca (talk) 15:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Von Uhde seems to have somewhat of a penchant for painting people with their backs turned, which gives those compositions an almost photographic feeling.

I wonder if you'd like any of Čiurlionis's (!) music? Sca (talk) 15:29, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Composer list

Here's the good images of composers I've lined up. Realise a couple of the important ones are annoying restorations, so don't expect them to appear in order of importance or anything. Any you'd like moved up in priority? Current goals are Ethel Smyth (a personal hero) and Balfe (a relatively easy one when I need a break)

19:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Obviously, this doesn't include any of the composers I've put up for voting already - think you've commented on all but Still, so you've at least seen most of them. Now, a couple notes: This is basically compiled from a quick skim of the 19th-century classical composers category with a comparison to Gallica and the LoC. If a composers doesn't appear, it may be I missed them, it may be that my knowledge - which leans heavily towards vocal music - wasn't aware of them, it may be I screwed up saving after finding an image (I know I did that a few times...), it may be that they're Ravel and appear in a different list, it may be I didn't the images were good enough, and I was primarily looking for photography, so I didn't bother searching anyone who died before 1860. So, if you don't see someone, just tell me, I can have a look. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 20:51, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I did find http://ciurlionis.eu/en/mkc-foto-3/ which is better than the version we have. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 03:32, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded over File:Mikalojus Konstantinas Čiurlionis photo portrait.jpg Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 04:20, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is that the one currently used in the info box at Čiurlionis? – Sca (talk) 15:14, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I uploaded over, since it's basically the same image (minor differences in crop aside) with far better resolution and sharpness. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:49, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh.. someone uploaded over it, undoing all the restoration in the process. Citing more shadow detail, when it's just a contrast tweak (that changes his hair colour). I'm going to revert that. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:50, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Er, don't yet see your revert under 'history.' Sca (talk) 16:33, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Reverted to version as of 04:19, 17 January 2016 (UTC) He died in his thirties; He probably didn't have grey hair." Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 11:14, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]