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Speedy deletion nomination of Kaleem Haider Sharar

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Nomination of Kaleem Haider Sharar for deletion

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My opinion is to keep this page and also add link to literature section of Urdu language

I have added citations from the following reliable sources

1) News and Publications from daily newspaper, published in various daily newspaper columns issued in Urdu Language from time to time and distributed in India from 1982 to 2014 (resources available with me).
2) link to scanned copies of book and snapshots of actual pages from book.
  a) Awarah Sultanpuri. Nayab Hain Ham. Urdu Qabila, Mumbai, 1997.
  b) Khaliquzzaman Nusrat. Shora-e-Maharashtra. Kainat Publication, Bhiwandi, 2014.

7The Biography is about a Poet who is known to me, personally. He was a very notable personality for his literary work and poetry, in Urdu language all over India, as you can read through article.

I have written this article because Urdu is also a language option available on Wikipedia.org See Wikipedia Article on Urdu Language ^[1]. I can see many articles on various Urdu Language Poets on Wikipedia viz. Mirza Ghalib, Mir Taqui Mir, Allama Iqbal etc, for their contributions to Urdu Language Literature.

My opinion is that this article should not be deleted and it can also be linked to Urdu Literature or Urdu Poetry section. Sayedminhal (talk) 16:05, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. The main problem right now is that the article is mostly sourced to work written by the poet himself. We need independent sources. Did anyone unrelated to Kaleem Haider Sharar write about him in a reliable source? Did he win any major awards? If so, add it to the article, go to the deletion discussion and point this out. The sources need not be in English, they can be in Urdu or in any language. Best of luck! Happy Squirrel (talk) 18:52, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Happy squirrel thanks for your comment, but here the references are given from daily news paper columns published daily in news paper of a Metropolitan.

The news paper are independent bodies which have published his poetry on demand from public. There must be a significant readership for Sharar's poetry so his work was "frequently" published in daily newspaper.

Also, there are two book references from dignified biographers, please check reference sections. Sayedminhal (talk) 14:38, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kaleem Haider Sharar (February 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jcc was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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jcc (tea and biscuits) 17:49, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Sayedminhal, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! jcc (tea and biscuits) 17:49, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the answer to your points: Notability: Kaleem Haider Sharar is "Notable" for being a Popular Urdu Language Poet, Author and Writer living in Mumbai area of Maharashtra Province in India.

Verification: 2 book reference already given inline in article and other news paper article references

What else can be provided? if you are not considering publications/news papers as reliable source?

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Your draft article, Draft:Kaleem Haider Sharar

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kaleem Haider Sharar (January 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KJP1 was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

The single source isn't a source. It's a link to a verse by the article subject. Aside from that, there's nothing to demonstrate Notability or allow Verification.

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KJP1 (talk) 15:25, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Kaleem Haider Sharar has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Kaleem Haider Sharar. Thanks! KJP1 (talk) 21:19, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kaleem Haider Sharar (January 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SeraphWiki was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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Please add more independent reliable sources to establish notability.

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SeraphWiki (talk) 06:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu

[1] ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu

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