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Speedy deletion nomination of Australian Marketing Institute

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A tag has been placed on Australian Marketing Institute requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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I have just created an article about the Australian Marketing Institute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Marketing_Institute based on another professional association's article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Institute_of_Management). Mine has been selected for speedy deletion. Why has the other one managed to survive since 2009? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarahami (talk • contribs)

Hi, at the top of the article, the CSD template says: "This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion as an article about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject. ... See CSD A7" That's a fairly clear-cut explanation. Editors who create articles must be sure to indicate how the article's subject is notable. Notability, for Wikipedia's purposes, is established by significant coverage from reliable sources that are independent of the subject. That is what we call the "General notability guideline." There are more specific criteria for companies, found at WP:NCORP. In the article you created, there was only one external link (to the primary source, a non-independent source.) The only reference you provided also originated at AMI. So the general notability guideline wasn't met, neither were the NCORP criteria, and that's probably why an editor nominated it for deletion. Don't worry though, if it gets deleted, you can place a request at WP:REFUND and ask to have the article moved back into your userspace so that you can work on it. I recommend that rather than submitting it as a live article, that you go through the Articles for Creation process. This is a slower process, but it allows for other editors to look at the article and make suggestions for how you can improve it before it goes live. The article really needs news articles, television coverage, multiple sources that independently talks about why the company is notable. Wikipedia is, after all, not a yellowpages. Hope that helps. Oh, and to answer your other question, as to why the other other article hadn't been deleted, my guess is it slipped through the cracks. It has exactly the same problems that this article had, i.e. no significant coverage from reliable sources independent of the subject. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:52, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above answer is kinda long, so let me say the usual criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia is explained here. Very basically, we only summarise information that's already published in reliable sources that're independent of the subject. We do this to ensure both that our information is verifiable, and that it can be written neutrally. The existence/non-existence of other articles is a non-factor.

I turned down the speedy deletion request because I'm unconvinced the mumbrella source wasn't sufficient to imply other sources may be out there. (Plus, I found two other book sources that looked significant). I'm not convinced it would survive a deletion discussion now (but nor am I convinced it wouldn't). Wikipedia:Your first article is a good place to start reading. If you have any questions, please ask. Cheers, Wily D 10:58, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]