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My page was dleted yesterday and I rewrote the article with more information and reasons why Black Beauty Supply is different from mainstream Beauty Supply. How, they started and why. I gave references and links. Let me know your thoughts and can I just do a Black Owned Beauty Supply page?

Black Beauty Supply

History:

Annie Malone developed and popularized the pressing comb in the early 1920’s. She owned a Beauty School Chain called Poro College (Poro: a West African word meaning organization dedication and discipline) in Chicago, Indianapolis and St. Louis. She was the mentor and the inspiration for Madam C.J. Walker primarily known for her early 20th century hair treatments. The pair started the first Black Owned Beauty Supply Business. Black beauty supply stores started in black beauty and barber shops that were located in black communities across America in the early 20th century. Affluent blacks traveled to those community beauty salons and barber shops to have their hair done and bought products that were specifically made for their hair type by Black hair care manufacturers.

Garret Morgan invented the first chemical hair relaxer in 1909 and named it the GA Morgan Hair Refining Crème. The crème allowed black hair to have a more European look and became an instant success. In 1929, Samuel B. Fuller started a line of hair care products which were sold door to door on the south side of Chicago. He quickly became one of the most prominent Black businessmen in the city. George E. Johnson was a production chemist for the S.B. Fuller Company and decided to strike on his own in the 1950’s creating a men’s product called Ultra Wave. In 1957, he started a professional salon line called for women called Ultra Sheen. Johnson products research laboratory became the largest laboratory devoted exclusively to black hair care products.

Black Hair care and cosmetics sales growth has proven to be stable and recession-resistant. A group of Korean immigrants in America discovered the market and began to start black beauty supply stores in areas that were predominantly African American.  The near monopoly of Korean owned black beauty supplies began to frustrate African American in the hair care and cosmetics trade merchants in the early 1990’s.

A 1993 study conducted by ViewPoint, Inc., a Chicago-based market research firm, revealed that many African-Americans were unaware and surprised that some of the hair care products they have been buying were not manufactured by African-American companies.  Seventy-nine percent of the African-American consumers said it is important that they purchase hair care products which are made by African-American manufacturers and 77 percent of these consumers said that if they knew which brand were African-American, they would show a preference for these brands in their future purchases.  The subject of Black Owned Beauty Supply Stores became a hot-button in the Black hair care industry as documented in the 2006 film entitled “Black Hair,” by filmmaker Aron Ranen.

Sam Ennon created Black Owned Beauty Supply Association otherwise known as B.O.B.S.A. in 2004 as a non-profit in San Mateo, California. B.O.B.S.A is the leading trade association exclusively representing black-owned beauty supply stores and retail consumers in acquiring and owning black-owned beauty supply stores, beauty salons, nail salons and barbershops. The association was formed to address the frustration that many black community members expressed worldwide over not being able to buy and sell products in local black beauty supply stores in the 1990’s to mid 2000.

B.O.B.S.A’s membership base includes over 5000 Black beauty professionals throughout the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Bermuda, Trinidad, West Indies and Switzerland 1500 beauty retail store operations in the USA, salons, barbershops, and training institutions. B.O.B.S.A members have promoted economic growth by pooling resources and recycling millions of dollars back into the Black community through contributions to organizations such as the United Negro College Fund (UNCF), the NAACP, the URBAN League, PUSH and the development of the Fred Luster, Sr. Scholarship Fund which provides thousands of dollars in scholarships to college-bound youths and cosmetology students across the country noting economic All of the association’s programs are dedicated to promoting economic and educational growth.

In addition, B.O.B.S.A companies employ thousands nationwide and B.O.B.S.A employers offer on the job training, educational workshop and business skill development. B.O.B.S.A companies spend $60 million annually in promotion on Black radio, magazines and newspapers, plus millions more from minority suppliers and related businesses. B.O.B.S.A produces Dots-Online Emagazine which is short for the term “Connecting the Black Dots.” Dots-Online Emagazine covers beauty industry news and events. B.O.B.S.A is a part of the Oakland Black Wall Street Districts comprised of churches, organizations, and businesses from 50th Avenue to 109th Avenue bound by International Boulevard in Oakland, California.

Links and references.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Malone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madam_C._J._Walker

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Morgan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_B._Fuller http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_E._Johnson,_Sr. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CosmoProf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronner_Bros. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Colored_People http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Urban_League http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow/PUSH http://www.beautystorebusiness.com/search/node/sam%20ennon

Aron Ranen http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2578905/

Documentary : http://blackhairdvd.com/

http://www.jazma.com/black-hair-history

ViewPoint: http://www.chipublib.org/cplbooksmovies/cplarchive/archivalcoll/viewpoint.php#org

http://www.ahbai.org/scholar/luster_cosmetology.html

http://www.cosmoprofnorthamerica.com

http://www.cosmoprofnorthamerica.com/images/speakers/aab-2.pdf http://www.sfltimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1157&Itemid=185 www.blackwallstreet.org

www.dots-online.com

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Sam Ennon

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BIO:

Sam Ennon is the president of the B.O.B.S.A, the nation’s largest black-owned beauty supply trade association which was founded in 2004. Sam entered the beauty and cosmetics industry in 1979 as a hair care manufacturer’s representative for Clairol in Chicago, Illinois. In addition to running B.O.B.S.A, he speaks on the subject of starting and managing a black owned beauty supply store at cosmetics and hair care industry professional trade shows.

I still see no indication of notability. The only reliable third-party source, the South Florida Times article, doesn't mention B.O.B.S.A at all. Wikipedia does not consider itself a reliable source. Huon (talk) 22:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In reply to your disputed deletion of Black Beauty Supply

Sally Beauty Holdings, Inc. is a $5.25B corporation sold on the New York Stock Exchange. Although its article needs to be improved, it is clearly a notable company. Black Owned Beauty Supply Association appears to be a non-notable trade organization. —teb728 t c 21:18, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Articles have been done all around the world on BOBSA AND EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY BOTH KNOWS AND RESPECTS THE ORGANIZATION and Sam. I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH MORE YOU NEED BUT IT IS NOTEABLE AND ONE OF A KIND.

Here is another instance of BOBSA . http://www.blackwallstreet.org/news.coverage.articles.reports/8804347230630868.html

This has huge following. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sambobsa (talk • contribs) 22:05, 23 May 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

As I recall your article was sourced only to your own site, which is certainly not an independent reliable source. You seem to be starting to get the idea now of what Wikipedia expects in the way of notability. I am not familiar with blackwallstreet.org, but I doubt it is what Wikipedia would regard as a reliable source. A better source would be this from the Philadelphia Business Journal. Can you find others similar? A story in the Wall Street Journal would be great!

If you want to try again, I recommend you start by reading Wikipedia:Your first article. And using the Articles for Creation project saves frustration (although it may lead to slower publication).

More generally, notice how I indented your posts here by beginning paragraphs with colons. (Beginning them with spaces creates weird formatting as you probably noticed.) Don't use ALL CAPS because many people consider it rude (like shouting). And please sign your posts to talk pages and forums by entering four tildes (~~~~). —teb728 t c 07:50, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Your username may be a problem

I agree the article has potential. However, your username may be a problem. See WP:CORPNAME. You are not allowed to have a username that represents a company, and this name could be against the rules. I'm not certain. To see how to change it go to WP:CHU.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be okay per the third bullet point at WP:ISU but nor am I certain or an expert. Boogerpatrol (talk) 20:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I will post it under my real name then.74.100.219.31 (talk) 21:49, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]