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Speedy deletion nomination of Black Sheep Restaurants

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A tag has been placed on Black Sheep Restaurants, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Citobun (talk) 04:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, SamSinha27. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Black Sheep Restaurants, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Citobun (talk) 04:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Citobun, Thanks for your kind message. I am not affiliated with Black Sheep Restaurants. I created this page because they have been getting a lot of press and awards and I thought they were a notable Hong Kong company that should have a page. Everything was cited and I made I thought my tone was neutral. Granted I'm a fan of the restaurants so maybe it came across as advertising. Perhaps other can help me make it truly neutral. Please let me know what I can do to make the page better. Thanks for your help!SamSinha27 (talk) 05:11, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

COI

If you have a conflict of interest, you must declare it. If you work directly or indirectly for an organisation, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly by the organisation you are writing about, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:SamSinha27. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=SamSinha27|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message.

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The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:

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Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability.

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Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How does this page violate the terms?

Could you point out exactly how this page violates the content terms. I have cited everything with sources that match all the criteria. Are Michelin stars not notable? Is it not notable to completely change a central area of a major world city, open 20 successful restaurants, getting on Asia's 50 Best list and 2 Michelin stars in 6 years. Is that not notable. The media seem to think it is given the international press this group had garnered. Please explain how this is not notable and why the sources are not valid. Thanks, SamSinha27 (talk) 06:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's an ad. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a vehicle for advertising. Please advertise elsewhere. You also haven't disclosed your COI, which a violation of Wikimedia Foundation terms of service. Citobun (talk) 06:25, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a COI, do you want me to invent one? How is it more of an ad than this? Why is there a bias against this particular page? SamSinha27 (talk) 06:29, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe you. The tone of the article was highly promotional and completely unencyclopedic. That Wikipedia:Other stuff exists does not make this acceptable. Citobun (talk) 06:32, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ok let's set that aside for a moment. Regardless of your thoughts on my COI, do you agree that the group is noteworthy and deserves a page, or do you think fundamentally, it is not worth a page? I appreciate your time, not trying to mug you off or anything SamSinha27 (talk) 06:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]