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[edit]Hello. Regarding this recent edit of yours,[1] I noticed you attempted to add an item directly to a category page.
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July 2023
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Hi Sadedavis1990! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Kj cheetham (talk) 14:41, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you 69.127.160.117 (talk) 16:05, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Lamiere
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A tag has been placed on Lamiere, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
- It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
- It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.
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December 2023
[edit]Hello Sadedavis1990. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.
Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Sadedavis1990. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Sadedavis1990|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:44, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- 1) This account does not reflect a paid user, A paid user would likely create multiple pages for compensation not just the page of an independent artist. How much money do independent artist have any way? therefore there is no conflict of interest. I am a fan of hip hop female rap and female rappers. I am a care coordinator for HSNY, which works in shelters for people with HIV/AIDS. I am from the bronx and I am a fan of Lamiere and frequent her live performances and follow her story as we come from the same housing projects. I have no personal gain in contributing to her story accept that by telling her story I show another leader and role model for people like her. As a person who works in social work I care for my community.
- 2) Lamiere meets the criteria for person of interest, television appearances, reality show appearance on Snap Chats TV, modeling in music video's with mainstream artist and the constant release of music are all notable contributions and important representation as an independent artist and someone who came from nothing and had no help from a major label to get on mainstream platforms. Please take a look at this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Baxter which represents a hip hop video vixen, or this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scar_Lip. It is arguable that this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubi_Rose has sources that are a result of a press release. Lamiere is included on many libraries and playlist with artist signed to major labels https://www.pandora.com/artist/lamiere/ARJJzxcndd29pw4 She's not Beyonce or Cardi b but neither are the other women in the link above.
- 3) based on the links provided please consider that Lamiere's page should be treated equally to other women in her category such as "Ruby Rose" who has articles from hip hop bloggers, as these are the mediums that typically discuss female rappers. Sadedavis1990 (talk) 06:48, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I'll take your word for that; sometimes fan editing can be difficult to tell apart from paid editing. Both make it quite difficult to remain neutral. It is possible that this individual is notable, but what determines that is the amount of reliable and independent material available about them. I wouldn't use the other ones you listed as your models—they're in pretty poor shape, and at least for a couple, I'm not very sure those are notable either, but I'd have to check. Regardless, an article certainly cannot include reference spamming such as a bunch of "reference" links which actually go to where the music is sold; that is beyond inappropriate. (I see that another one of these articles also does that, and I'll also take care of that.)Similarly, blogs, interviews, and so on, are not good sources. You'd be looking for substantial coverage in a source which is both reliable, and which is unaffiliated with the article subject and written independently of them (hence why interviews don't work, that's just the subject talking about themself.) In this case, the only source cited apart from links to music or sellers of it (not independent) and one to her own website (not, of course, independent) was this one: [2], and whatever that is, it's very badly written, and if a publication can't even proofread, I would certainly doubt how well its fact-checking process works. Are there better sources about this individual than those? If not, she's not an appropriate subject for an article at this time. If there are, she might be, but stick only to what those sources confirm, avoid using any personal knowledge you may have that they don't, and don't link to sales sites or the like. It might also just be too soon—if her star is indeed rising, there may not be enough source material to write an article at this time, but that could of course change in a couple of years. Especially being a new editor, I would also very strongly use the draft and articles for creation process rather than direct creation in mainspace—it is hard to get a new article right on the first edit, and drafting gives you some breathing room where it won't immediately be expected to be up to mainspace standards, and AfC will allow a more experienced editor to look at it and provide feedback if there's any issue, or move it into mainspace if it is indeed ready. Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- I think im getting a better understanding of Wikipedia I have to do additional research to find publications appropriate, and remove the music links as well as make sure the articles show categories. I read the policy on back linking and i thought i was being thorough for the community, Yes alot of revision is needed Sadedavis1990 (talk) 08:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well, hope it goes well! And of course if you're interested in women in hip-hop music, I'm sure there are some other articles that could use some work as well, even if that one turns out not to work quite yet. If you have any questions while you're doing that, you can ask at the Teahouse page, and someone can point you in the right direction. Seraphimblade Talk to me 09:12, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- It appears this editor is running into some issues at Refund in the event you'd like to weigh in @Seraphimblade Star Mississippi 19:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Why would I contribute to a community that would delete my work and silence the stories of particular people who are not backed by a white run record label. I honestly think my article was too good and perhaps their is a system to silence the independent artist. You made poor assumptions i asked you to send my work to draft's. I don’t like egotistical people like you or this community who picks and chooses which pages to go after when i showed you several pages with similar articles. You deleting my work and deleting the story of a black women is a digital representation of the oppression black people face in the real world. People like you will never comprehend that. And if i am ever blessed with a platform to tell this story id be sure to say Wikipedia is the worst site ever.
- Writing up an article that has Apple links instead of secondary sources is not going to make it on this website. Please make sure to log in, to protect your privacy. Drmies (talk) 01:11, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Well, hope it goes well! And of course if you're interested in women in hip-hop music, I'm sure there are some other articles that could use some work as well, even if that one turns out not to work quite yet. If you have any questions while you're doing that, you can ask at the Teahouse page, and someone can point you in the right direction. Seraphimblade Talk to me 09:12, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- I think im getting a better understanding of Wikipedia I have to do additional research to find publications appropriate, and remove the music links as well as make sure the articles show categories. I read the policy on back linking and i thought i was being thorough for the community, Yes alot of revision is needed Sadedavis1990 (talk) 08:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I'll take your word for that; sometimes fan editing can be difficult to tell apart from paid editing. Both make it quite difficult to remain neutral. It is possible that this individual is notable, but what determines that is the amount of reliable and independent material available about them. I wouldn't use the other ones you listed as your models—they're in pretty poor shape, and at least for a couple, I'm not very sure those are notable either, but I'd have to check. Regardless, an article certainly cannot include reference spamming such as a bunch of "reference" links which actually go to where the music is sold; that is beyond inappropriate. (I see that another one of these articles also does that, and I'll also take care of that.)Similarly, blogs, interviews, and so on, are not good sources. You'd be looking for substantial coverage in a source which is both reliable, and which is unaffiliated with the article subject and written independently of them (hence why interviews don't work, that's just the subject talking about themself.) In this case, the only source cited apart from links to music or sellers of it (not independent) and one to her own website (not, of course, independent) was this one: [2], and whatever that is, it's very badly written, and if a publication can't even proofread, I would certainly doubt how well its fact-checking process works. Are there better sources about this individual than those? If not, she's not an appropriate subject for an article at this time. If there are, she might be, but stick only to what those sources confirm, avoid using any personal knowledge you may have that they don't, and don't link to sales sites or the like. It might also just be too soon—if her star is indeed rising, there may not be enough source material to write an article at this time, but that could of course change in a couple of years. Especially being a new editor, I would also very strongly use the draft and articles for creation process rather than direct creation in mainspace—it is hard to get a new article right on the first edit, and drafting gives you some breathing room where it won't immediately be expected to be up to mainspace standards, and AfC will allow a more experienced editor to look at it and provide feedback if there's any issue, or move it into mainspace if it is indeed ready. Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Instead of getting angry and upset, please try to understand what people are telling you. I have tried to explain this at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#Lamiere. You must write neutrally, and you must demonstrate that Lamiere actually merits an article here. The way you demonstrate that is to follow WP:Golden Rule and prove that she meets one of the inclusion criteria in WP:SINGER. If you can't do that, then it's probably too soon to have a Wikipedia article about her.
You wrote a promotional article that didn't demonstrate notability, so it was deleted. You are welcome to try again. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC)