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May 2022
"This is not LeftistsOnlyPedia"
Fully agree; thanks for such a concise comment. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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University of Wisconsin System dashes
Any thoughts on the en-dashes used in University of Wisconsin System, and in the titles of the linked articles? (I also wonder if "System" should be lowercase.) — BarrelProof (talk) 20:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- @BarrelProof: Better dashes than hyphens, I would think. "University of Wisconsin System" seems to be its statorily-determined proper name, and "System" for this strongly dominates in the source material [1]. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- I agree about hyphens, but I would be more inclined to spaced en dashes than unspaced ones, or a comma or space instead, as with the University of California or University of Washington campuses. An unspaced en dash seems like a conjoining, which is not what these are. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Universities are all over the map on how they do this: University of Foo, Bar; University of Foo Bar; University of Foo–Bar; University of Foo - Bar; University of Foo at Bar; University of Foo, Bar Campus; etc., etc. 'Snot a hill I would die on. There's no way to ngrams-test this, since Google's ngram viewer doesn't handle dashes. But I guess you could look through news materials and try to see whether space-dash-space is common, and if so propose a move to that format for clarity's sake. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:35, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Dicklyon may have already looked into this before. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:37, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the responses. I was just looking around for examples of dashed and hyphenated university/college names for purposes of the ongoing discussion at Talk:Heriot-Watt University #Requested move 8 May 2022, and I bumped into these unusual ones. Two similar examples have already been mentioned in that discussion – Lenoir–Rhyne University and Randolph–Macon College. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- That's a very different thing. In UW–Green Bay, it's not two parallel names, but some kind of "subtitle" relationship that colleges use for campuses. You almost always see it with spaced or unspaced hyphen, which suggests that unspaced dash might be OK in our style, but I agree that spaced dash might be more sensible. Personally, I'd prefer to just put a space and leave out the dash, as some do. But maybe it's better to let this one lie. And for lowercasing "System", maybe; depends on whether sources cap consistently, and I haven't looked. Dicklyon (talk) 20:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the responses. I was just looking around for examples of dashed and hyphenated university/college names for purposes of the ongoing discussion at Talk:Heriot-Watt University #Requested move 8 May 2022, and I bumped into these unusual ones. Two similar examples have already been mentioned in that discussion – Lenoir–Rhyne University and Randolph–Macon College. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- I agree about hyphens, but I would be more inclined to spaced en dashes than unspaced ones, or a comma or space instead, as with the University of California or University of Washington campuses. An unspaced en dash seems like a conjoining, which is not what these are. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you for improving articles in May! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
I like my talk today (actually mostly from 29 May - I took the title pic), enjoy the music, two related videos worth watching! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello SMcCandlish,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 804 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 851 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.
This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.
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The time goes fast and we're nearly halfway again to the next one. There's been some talk recently about non admins being on the committee. There might be several more such candidates this time. I hope you'll be among them. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:45, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Will think about it. It'll really come down to whether I'm certain I'll have the time for it, and I won't know that until closer to the election. Thanks for your early support, though. :-) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 10:19, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Editing newsletter 2022 – #1
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