User talk:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz

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Re: R. v. Coote

You're quite welcome :) For future reference, a stub tag is for articles that contain very little content (no more than a paragraph) and genuinely give no real information. See Wikipedia:Stub. Yours had plenty of content and was well referenced, so it definitely didn't need the tag. Good job anyway :) QueenCake (talk) 16:19, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Naming conventions

Thank you for your note, Mr Serjeant Buzfuz. The general rules are at Wikipedia:Article titles and Wikipedia:Naming conventions. See in particular Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Titles and styles and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility)#British nobility, which is not a very good title for titles of knighthood, but they are covered there. In practice, we don't include "Sir" in the article title for a knight unless for some reason it's useful. Moonraker (talk) 19:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation and the links. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:29, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Psychic powers!

Now that you've added a signature to your post on my talk page, it looks like I responded to you several hours before you posted! He he heh... Andrew Gwilliam (talk) 21:35, 29 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I wish it would add the sig automatically - I always forget the damn thing! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:26, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(except this time, of course!) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:26, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A page you started has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Halifax Fisheries Commission, Mr Serjeant Buzfuz!

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Reviewed as part of page curation. interesting article already tagged.Kieranian2001 (talk) 12:27, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks very much! glad you found it interesting! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:04, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Your question!

Your question has been answered on American Revolutionary War talk page.Allied Rangoons (talk) 21:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I've continued the discussion on the talk page. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:14, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hazen Hansard

Thanks for the note. I'm always happy to review well written, properly referenced articles. I would like to know more about his career in the army during WW2, but that's my personal obsession! Best wishes. Bikeroo (talk) 17:30, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Legal status of animals in Canada wiki

Did you intentionally remove the Penalties for Breaches section content on Nov 3, 2015? Was there something wrong with the content? Ninel (talk) 20:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can't remember; that was four months ago! :) I will check and come back.Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:36, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it; moved the penalties section up to the summary of the current state of the law last November and forgot to delete the heading. Thank you for the polite inquiry - best traditions of wikipedia! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:55, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Henry VIII

I perfectly agree with you! I tried to resolve this absurdity, as you can see in my recent contribution, but it has been canceled. I wanted, succeedingly, to point out the "non sequitur". To no avail. NONIS STEFANO (talk) 07:47, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yves Fortier (lawyer)

My Canadian Oxford dictionary (second edition) gives "commitment" with one "t". "Committed" is indeed spelt with two in Canadian English. Regards. Orenburg1 (talk) 07:05, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Patriation

− − Your expertise is needed at Patriation.--Moxy (talk) 23:04, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A page you started (Electoral history of Alexander Mackenzie) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Electoral history of Alexander Mackenzie, Mr Serjeant Buzfuz!

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— Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 20:39, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, both. I'll be adding talk pages soon. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 20:41, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Insertcleverphrasehere: Tried to use that "rater" function, but it's beyond my tech capabilities; read the "how to" page and my eyes glazed over. Have added Talk pages to each of the new Electoral history pages the old-fashioned way: Cutting and pasting from the ones you created :) Thanks! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 20:47, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, that works too. Its actually much simpler to install scripts than it looks though. Just create a page at User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz/common.js, then copy "importScript('User:Evad37/rater.js'); // User:Evad37/rater" (without quotes) into the first line. (then you'll find a new link in the top bar near 'view history', under 'more'. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 20:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for creating List of Justices of the Supreme Court of Canada by Position, Mr Serjeant Buzfuz!

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Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:48, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Recent Canadian Provincial Elections

There's no point in reverting updates based on recent provincial elections. Quebec's new premier will be sworn in in a matter of days, just leave the updates. This way, it's done ahead of time. 2607:F2C0:9494:B000:D180:A453:E65B:13C4 (talk) 00:21, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As mentioned in the box at the top of this page, I find it much more productive to discuss edits to a page on the Talk page of that article. That way, anyone who is interested in that page can see the discussion. I have responded to you on the Talk page for the template on current provincial governments, and will not discuss the issue here. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:59, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And as mentioned in the section at the bottom, sorry for posting here. Just wanted to let you know I'm now spending the time enjoying your talk page, too. Didn't want to make a whole chapter here just to let you know, though, y'know? InedibleHulk (talk) 06:15, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Convention results boxes

I was looking at some of your "Election History of..." articles. In the convention results box near the end of the article:

Candidate		First Ballot
Candidate		Votes cast	%
File:Lester B. Pearson 1957.jpg	Lester B. Pearson	1,074	77.8%

I'm concerned that the bold blue-on-red text may be difficult to read (see Wikipedia:Colour contrast). Similarly in the Kim Campbell article:

Candidate		First Ballot		Second Ballot
Candidate		Votes cast	%	Votes cast	%
	Kim Campbell	1,664	48.0%	1,817	52.6%

What if the colour scheme of these tables were changed to something like:

Candidate		First Ballot
Candidate		Votes cast	%
File:Lester B. Pearson 1957.jpg	Lester B. Pearson	1,074	77.8%
	Kim Campbell	1,664	48.0%

They may not be the official colour tones of the parties, but I feel legibility is important. – Reidgreg (talk) 21:46, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Reidgreg: Sorry for the delay in getting back to you; some stuff IRL and limited computer access; find I can't tinker with tables on my iPad. I certainly take your point that legibility is important. I like the pale blue you suggest for the Conservatives, but I find the pink just too washed out for the Liberals; personal subjectivity, of course! I poked around in the colours articles and found a slightly darker red that I think is still legible; what do you think of it?

Candidate		First Ballot
Candidate		Votes cast	%
File:Lester B. Pearson 1957.jpg	Lester B. Pearson	1,074	77.8%

Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 09:05, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pinging me, and don't worry, there's no deadline.

I put your suggestion into Snook's colour contrast tool and it came out as non-compliant with WCAG 2.0 standards (for small to medium sized text). However, it's a definite improvement on the original and I feel it's relatively easy to read the bold text (non-bold text might be difficult though, should anyone change it). I tried playing around with a colour chooser but as I lightened the background colour it always skewed towards salmon/pink.

I'm fine with your suggestion. Will you be able to implement the change in the articles or should I? – Reidgreg (talk) 16:01, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done! Changing codes on existing tables was easy on a tablet. Just find it difficult to create new tables, like the one I did here. But ended up using the colour code for the federal Liberals from the table of Party colors - found it was pretty close to the one I suggested above, and equally legible. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:57, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! Thanks for taking care of this! – Reidgreg (talk) 13:55, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How to show the post-election UK PM, in the infobox.

Howdy. I've opened up an Rfc at 2019 United Kingdom general election, concerning all UK general election articles' infoboxes. If we're going to change something to your preference, we should be doing it for all of them, not just the 2019 article. GoodDay (talk) 14:44, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled granted

Hi Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Schwede 66 03:04, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:BOLDLEAD

We had bold leads at the following high view articles but over time this was changed (messed up some transclutions but that was fixed). What do you think is best here? I am ok with no bold ....but we have about 15 articles that all start the exact same way....designed to take the readers away for the article off the bat. Misinformation related to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic version with bold and Socio-economic impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic version with bold. --Moxy 🍁 13:44, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Moxy: Hi Moxy, sorry for the delay in responding. I don't check my Talk page very often. I'm afraid I don't understand your question? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 08:53, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hyphens and en dashes

@Schwede66: Hi Schwede66, a few months back you pointed me to the style differences for hyphens and en dashes for dates and page numbers, but I can't find the discussion or the style section. Sorry to be a pest, but could you point me to the section in the MoS? Thanks! (I've pinged you on my talk page so I won't lose the discussion again; if you could reply here it would be greatly appreciated.) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:39, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No trouble at all: MOS:DASH Schwede 66 17:15, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks!Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:41, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stub templates

I have created two templates for use on Canadian politicians they are {{UpperCanada-politician-stub}} and {{ProvinceofCanada-politician-stub}}, currently both these templates send articles to Category:Canadian politician stubs but once you get approximatly 60 articles marked with each of these templates you can either create the category and cange the template to send them to the new category or let me know on my talk page and I will do so for you. Waacstats (talk) 08:12, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Thanks so much for all your help. --Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 09:50, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Waacstats: I think the word "about" is missing from both templates? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 09:59, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stubs ahoy

You're very welcome to the stub community - thanks for the barnstar! Her Pegship (?) 04:31, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for posting here, but I don't know how to reply on the topic talk page.

Comparing Australia and Canada is not a simple one-on-one mapping. You are correct that the Canadian provinces are sovereign powers in their own right, but they derive their sovereignty from the Canadian Government. In Australia, the States delegate their powers to Canberra. Even the title Lieutenant Governor implies a junior role unlike the Australian Governors. Your point that because the Governor General acts with the Monarch's powers, the appointment of the Lieutenant Governors is equally by the Monarch is a fatuous truism, because everything done is equivalent to being done by Her Majesty, but in Australia the State Governors are appointed directly from the Palace, not via the Governor-General. Another point of difference is that State Ministers can advise The Queen but not the equivalent in Canada, so there is the potential for a conflict in Australia, but is unlikely to happen. It is not generally acknowledged that the Australian States are actually separate realms that overlap with the CofA.

I regret that I could not work out how to reply to you on the correct talk page. However, you probably want to leave that page showing that you had the last word, even if your response was very Canada-centric and clearly displays a lack of understanding of the Australian Constitution that is unique in many ways. You are apparently a Jurist of considerable stature, and I feel rather cheeky disputing Constitutional Law with you without being more respectful in my disagreements. The Law is infinitely divisible.

The point that I am disputing with you has no practical relevance, but as a newly-converted Monarchist, I am fascinated by the Constitution. I used to have a FaceBook page called Melbourne Monarchists, but FaceBook banned me when I wrote in defense of HRH the Duke of York. Now I have no one to talk to. NaumTered (talk) 23:43, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adding sub-cat

Sorry I didn't see this sooner, and I'm glad you figured it out! Cheers, Her Pegship (?) 22:26, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You added wrong info dude

Hey check the Hate speech laws in Canada page of Wikipedia every province and territory in Canada prohibits hate speech so edit the summery table section of the LGBT rights in canada page where you mentioned the hate speech prohibited column as YES/NO Rex30 (talk) 17:12, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As mentioned at the top of this page, if you have a comment on an edit I’ve made, please raise it on the Talk page for the article so that anyone who is interested in the article can participate in the discussion. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:28, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of List of prime ministers of Canada by time in office for deletion

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United Airlines Flight 93

Hi, I just replied to you on the talkpage. Please consider that Featured Articles (FA) are not (PA) Perfect Articles...we don't have PA! Hence, the large number of edits made to Flight 93, since its promotion in 2008. FAs and GAs aren't set in stone,(at least they shouldn't be...), always room for improvement and additional information. Back in July, I made a run thru, adding much needed paragraphs, etc, etc, and Very Boldly changing the hierarchy of the section headings! This is how it appeared before, with everything crammed under Flight. Much better now, and no one objected! And I am a very junior editor, compared to you...

I had a look at your wonderful user page, so well done, and humorous! And here on Talk, the "don't wag your finger" plus the stick figure with the red tongue, just made my day! Very nice to meet you, Best, Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 20:19, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Tribe of Tiger: Thanks very much for your kind words. I enjoyed both your encouragement on the Flight 93 issue, and your comments here. Sorry for the delay in responding; that IRL life thing, plus I got tied up with a debate on the Original Research discussion page. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:12, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Use of "Her Excellency"

Hello, you reverted this edit of mine on Louise Arbour. This link, specifically the section "How to address diplomatic and consular corps", should substantiate what I said. I'm not entirely sure where the citation would go on the page, though. INDT (talk) 18:06, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. My personal approach, as stated at the top of this page, is that if a response is about an edit relating to the substance of an article, it should be raised on the Talk page of the article, so that any editor interested in the article can follow the discussion and contribute to it. If you comment there, I will reply. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:33, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, I'll take better care to read notices next time. I've copied my reply to Talk:Louise Arbour. INDT (talk) 18:41, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks. I just don't like the idea of "side conversations" about the content of an article, buried away on Talk pages where other editors can't follow it.Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:54, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bolding

I see you reverted my edit on Pierre Trudeau, where I bolded "PET." Meanwhile, articles such as Franklin D. Roosevelt have their initials bolded. Why? Ak-eater06 (talk) 19:07, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As mentioned at the top of this page, my view is that discussions about edits to a particular article should be made on the Talk page of that article, so that anyone who is interested in the article is aware of the discussion. Side discussions on user talk pages do not help to build an article. Please feel free to raise the issue on the Talk page of the article, and I will respond there, so that all editors can follow the discussion. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 19:10, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz I left a message on that talk page. Ak-eater06 (talk) 19:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Canada Act 1982

My edit was based on the assumption that this was only a British law and not part of Canadian law as such (though it contains Canadian law), partly because no one formatted it with a comma. Should it have a comma? Hairy Dude (talk) 11:11, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

hi, thanks for asking. Section 52(2) of the Constitution Act, 1982 provides that the Canada 1982 is italicised, but no comma: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/const/page-13.html#h-59. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:22, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

However, I do wonder if this issue of italics should be treated more like a question of style. In Canada, in legal writing, all statutes are italicised, whether Canadian, US, British or international (eg treaties). That's what our legal style manuals recommend, and what the courts do. If we followed that approach on Wikipedia, if an article is about Canada, all statutes would be italicised, regardless of source, but in an article about Britain, all statutes would not be italicised, regardless of source. After all, if an article is using British spelling, we don't switch to American spelling if part of the article is touching on American matters. I would think a consistent usage throughout would be better, because less confusing to the reading.

For instance, I'm working on the Demise of the Crown article, and am just getting to the section where I will cite some Canadian statutes. If I follow Canadian style for Canadian statutes in that section, but British style for British statutes, then there will be a mishmash - English/British statutes non-italicised, Canadian statutes italicised. My inclination, however, is to follow British style throughout, and not italicise the Canadian statutes, because the article is mainly about British law. I think that approach is less confusing to the reader. Thoughts? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:46, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Following your lead

Note: I've followed your & Peter Ormond's lead & removed links to "head of state..." in all the governors-general & former governors-general categories. GoodDay (talk) 03:01, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GoodDay: Just noticed this. Glad you find it a sensible approach. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 19:32, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Louis Riel

That's definitely not okay. I've reverted it and given him a warning not to try that stunt again; however, as I've been concentrating on other things the past few days and not paying too much attention to Cblambert's crazymaking, please advise me right away if he tries it again — I've literally gotten to the point that I'm willing to apply a partial block so that he can't edit Louis Riel or the talk page at all anymore. Bearcat (talk) 18:52, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bearcat: Thanks. This is the time of year for R&R, so appreciate you taking a look at it. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 19:30, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

JCPC category

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner about your category question; I wasn't on here at all on the specific day you posted your question to my talk page, and by the time I was back I had several other issues to deal with and yours got lost in the shuffle. My apologies.

It sounds to me like the topic you describe is one that would probably make more sense as a list than as a category. As a rule, we categorize people by their defining characteristics, not necessarily by every intersection of multiple traits that they may happen to possess. A category for "people who did both X and Y" is generally discouraged, except in the circumstance that you can find sources that explicitly discuss the people who did both X and Y as a group, in order to ascribe some encyclopedic significance to the intersection as a thing in its own right. (For example, although there are musicians who have gone into politics, we don't have a category for musicians who have gone into politics, because there isn't much evidence out there that musicians going into politics get collectively analyzed for the political or cultural significance of an intersection between those two occupations — but conversely, there does seem to be some collective analysis out there about the cultural significance of sports figures going into politics after they retire from sports, so we do have a Category:Sportsperson-politicians tree. (That said, I'm still not convinced that we should, because people routinely think its existence justifies the creation of "other occupation-politicians" intersections for every other career that two or more politicians might have had before entering politics — but that one has been kept even as other "equivalent" categories have been deleted, because there was a consensus established that the sourceability of the topic had a different basis than some of the others.)

So the basis for a category for "judges of the JCPC who wrote decisions in Canadian constitutional law" wouldn't be "are there multiple people who could be filed in it?", it would be "are there sources out there treating 'judges of the JCPC who wrote decisions in Canadian constitutional law' as a group who are analyzed for the significance of the intersection of those two traits?" — if there aren't, then you'd be better off thinking about a list rather than a category. There's still no guarantee that a list would be kept if somebody challenged the notability of the topic at AFD, but the basis for a list isn't exactly the same as the basis for a category, so things that aren't appropriate for categories can sometimes still be acceptable as lists. Bearcat (talk) 16:27, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bearcat: Thanks, no probs with delay; it’s a busy time of the year. 🌲

I hadn’t thought of a list article, but that makes more sense. There is a lot written about this group of judges, particularly from the perspective whether their interpretation of the BNA Act significantly weakened the federal government in a way not consistent with original intent. Viscount Haldane, who wrote a lot of decisions, has been characterized as « the wicked Godfather of Confederation ». Another one whose name comes up is William Watson, Baron Watson. Academics such as F. R. Scott and Peter Hogg have written a fair bit about the JCPC judges and this issue, so I would think that a list would pass notability requirements.

The name is still an issue: I wouldn’t want it to be a list of JCPC judges who wrote decisions in Canadian cases generally, because that’s too broad a class. Those non-constitutional decisions were important at the time, but haven’t generated the same level of academic discourse as the constitutional ones. It’s specifically the constitutional cases which have attracted a lot of attention. But « List of Judicial Committee judges who wrote Canadian constitutional law decisions » is way clunky and long. Would you have any suggestion?

The more I think about it, doing a list would let me include a lot of info: years of service, number of cases, list of cases. That would be of much more value. Thanks! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:11, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar of Diligence

Thank you. That's very generous of you. Instant Comma (talk) 01:38, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Law of Canada

My apologies for my mistaken undo. Meters (talk) 00:26, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Meters:No apologies needed! The back and forth of dialogue and opinions is what makes Wikipedia better! And I see Singularity42 has now started a discussion on the content of the template, based on our interaction. That's all good. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:21, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

April 2022

Hello, I'm Ost316. I noticed that you recently removed all content from White Canadians. Please do not do this. Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. As a rule, if you discover a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If a page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you wish to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Ost (talk) 17:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT rights in Canada

Hi, I'm trying to update the LGBT summary table for Canada. Please review it to update anything that is missing. Thanks tom950 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom950 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abortion in CAN

So i am not sure how we can word this ...but no provider beyond "23 weeks and 6 days" yet BC clinics will do so if the mother is at risk of death up to "24 weeks and 6 days" and QC till 24 weeks...then after (very rare could only find 3 cases in 9 years) ...we have "Septic abortion" that happens in hospitals if there is risk of death to the mother at any time.Moxy- 17:48, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Moxy: - I tinkered with the sentence in the lead a bit; please see what you think of it. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Naknak page

I posted in the talk section of the Naknak page, and I'd like you to read it please. TherealGordon94 (talk) 16:06, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for letting me know. I have replied on that Talk page. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:35, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT summary table for Canada

I had put in services and commercial premises because they are protected by the Human Rights Laws in Canada however you decided to remove them. Now when it comes to the references to Health Insurance, Labour and Banking and all other financial institutions I was the one who originally put those in the summary table but decided to remove them in order to better update that entry to reflet what is said in the Human Rights laws page. Can you please tell me where in the human rights laws of Canada where those are included? thank you, tom950 Tom950 (talk) 00:59, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I asked you for a cite when you said these items were not included. Instead of providing a cite, you deleted them. If you wish to discuss further, please take the discussion to the Talk page for the article. As I state at the top of this Talk page, in my opinion any discussion of the content of an article should be on the Talk page for that article, so that any interested editor can participate and there is a record of the discussion. Thanks. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 01:42, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Joyous Season

I wish that you may have a very Happy Holiday! Whether you celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Hogmanay, Festivus or your hemisphere's Solstice, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! May the New Year provide you joy and fulfillment! Thanks for everything you do here. Yeeno (talk) 01:31, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Coffee/Holidays}} to your fellow editors' talk pages.

Happy New Year, Mr Serjeant Buzfuz!

Happy New Year!

Mr Serjeant Buzfuz,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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	Happy New Year!
	Hello Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:29, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy New Year!

My best wishes for the new year ahead, Mr Serjeant Buzfuz! On espère qu'elle annoncera des bonnes choses. À la prochaine Safyrr 18:52, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert at Michael O'Sullivan (politician)

I didn't see your revert until just now, after I had made my comment here about my concern with the article, but if there is an issue with the way the archived links are added to the citations via IAbot, feel free to manually add the archived links yourself in your preferred formatting style, but the links were added ensure that readers are still able to verify the facts of the article if the references no longer work. There have been instances where links would work when they're being checked before going to the main page and then suddenly go offline/404 right before the article hits the main page by sheer coincidence. I'm not concerned about the format of the citation, so by all means please add them how you prefer it to be formatted; my concern there is future-proofing the citations against link rot, especially when it's going to be on the front page with many people reading and checking/scrutinizing the references, that's all. - Aoidh (talk) 01:28, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear in case it seems like I sound accusatory which is not my intention, I am fine with you reverting it and retaining the preferred style, I would just ask that you consider adding the archived links in whatever style you're using and comfortable with, since it benefits readers in the event that the link suffers from link rot. I would add them myself but I'm not familiar with the style and have no intention of reverting your revert, even in part. - Aoidh (talk) 02:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The ref system I'm using is the ref key and the link key from the editing box, with the link, the name of the bio, the author of the bio, the name of the work, the volume, and the publishers. If using the ref key and the link key are no longer considered sufficient then they should be removed from the editing box. Bear in mind that if Wikipedia is truly the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, we have to be cautious about continually increasing the standard of technical facility that we expect of editors. And, bots should not use patronizing and insulting edit comments like "Rescued X number of citations". Rescued from whom? Incompetent editors? Highly insulting and not assuming good faith. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:COLOR

Hi, I flipped back your revert to the legend for the map at Thirteen Colonies. Your comment indicated that both color and text were previously there, which wasn't the case. The switch to color boxes was due to issues with how the color labels (on a map that's probably not very accessible in the first place) didn't match what was seen on the screen. I've not seen MOS:COLOR applied to map legends, but went ahead and restored the names along with the color boxes so that hopefully the map makes more sense. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:25, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thank you so much for the Defender of the Wiki Barnstar! That whole situation was crazy, and I really appreciate the support 🙂 I had actually just seen your page the day before, as I casually stalk the recent successful GA nominations, and saw your Constitution Act article get GA! Congratulations, and keep up the good work, what you do is appreciated. Cheers! Johnson524 (Talk!) 14:18, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnson524:, you're very welcome. It can be intimidating when governments put pressure on a publisher. Glad Wikipedia stood up to it as well. Thanks for the comments on s. 54. I'm gradually (very gradually) going through the CA Act and turning sections blue in the overview box. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:33, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move discussion

There is currently a Request Move discussion about William IV. Since you participated in the previous move discussion involving William IV, I thought you might want to know about this one. Cheers. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:30, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article for Deletion - British possession

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/British possession as requested on my talk page. W C M_email 14:57, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Little question

Thank you for your help! I was wondering-- what do you do when another user kind of stalks you and systematically undoes all your edits? I've been having this problem since May, and I don't know what to do. Didicool14 (talk) 14:45, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a formal dispute resolution process, collectivley called the Administrators Notice Boards. I've never been involved in anything there. Before going there, though, I would suggest you send a message to an administrator and ask for help. The admins are regular editors who have been given some oversight functions, to ensure Wikipedia keeps operating. Two admins that I would recommend talking to are User:Bearcat (he's a Canadian admin), and User:CaptainEek (she's in the States). We want people to feel safe at Wikipedia. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:04, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. I've contacted both of them, hoping for the best. Didicool14 (talk) 15:17, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Roche Percee

I was going to do that very move. But I was going to gather a bunch of sources to show the move was justified first. Thank you doing it. I support that 100%. Masterhatch (talk) 16:18, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve got a few that I’ll add to the Talk page. The article was named this originally, then got moved by an editor who cited Stats Can. But Stats Can had no authority to name towns. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:24, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I had been worried correcting the name would ruffle some feathers so I wasn't going to tackle it until I had time to defend it. Which other ones were you looking at? Masterhatch (talk) 16:30, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve reverted the spelling change recently made on the Souris River article. That’s what caught my attention, as I’ve got the Souris on my watch list. Haven’t noticed any others. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:12, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Undoing edits

Hi, thanks for deleting this unsupported addition. I just wanted to let you know there's an easier way to undo edits. Cheers! — W.andrea (talk) 18:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Editor experience invitation

Hi Mr Serjeant Buzfuz. :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:09, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Help desk

I'm just letting you know that I made some edits to one of your comments regarding "Need help with a new category: Disestablishments in Canada East" because parts of the text in what you were writing were not displaying. For example, references to {{Title decade}} were being blanked out because there isn't a decade mentioned in the title Wikipedia:Help desk. I inserted the "nowiki" designator where it appeared to apply. See my edit at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1190120318&oldid=1190119785&title=Wikipedia:Help_desk . If this doesn't correspond to what you meant, feel free to change it back. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:59, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. I really don't understand the coding displayed in that parent category, but your corrections will help anyone else who looks at it. I appreciate all the help that you and other editors are giving on this tech issue. (As the subject matter indicates, I'm much more familiar with 19th century canadiana ... ) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

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Merry Christmas! Are you enjoying this record breaking heat? Gotta love El Niño. Masterhatch (talk) 08:16, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like I should be sitting out on the stoop with a cold beer:)! Best wishes! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks so much. Excellent sentiments in your e-card, for both the wiki-world and the real world. Best wishes for the New Year. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy 2024!

Happy New Year 2024!

Hello Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Wishing you a great New Year full of good experiences, happiness and fulfillement! Cheers, Safyrr 17:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lawyers from the Province of Canada

Since Canada East and Canada West were just conventionsl designations of areas within the Province of Canada, which was the actual political entity at the time, do you think we could have a Lawyers from the Province of Canada category? I am not sure any other poliyical unit that constituted British North America would have enough articles, but I brlieve this one would work.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi John Pack Lambert, I’ve thought about your suggestion but I don’t think it would work. There was no single bar for the Province of Canada, because the legal and court systems were different. Lawyers in Lower Canada / Canada East were members of the Law Society of Lower Canada, trained in the civil law. Lawyers from Upper Canada / Canada West were members of the law Society of Upper Canada, trained in the common law. Neither set of lawyers had right of audience in the courts of the other section. There was clear continuity in the lawyers from Lower Canada / Canada East / Quebec, and a separate continuity in the lawyers from Upper Canada / Canada West / Ontario. That’s why I’ve suggested putting a sub-category of Lower Canada lawyers in the existing category of « Lawyers in Quebec », and a sub-category of Upper Canada lawyers in the existing category of « Lawyers in Ontario ». I would also say that if a lawyer was called to either bar prior to Confederation, but continued into Confederation, they should just be catégorised as a Quebec lawyer or an Ontario lawyer. If they ceased practice before 1867, then I’d put them in the sub-categories.

The reason I suggest this approach is that the division of the province of Canada into Canada East and Canada West wasn’t just conventional. The Province of Canada was a quasi-federation, and the separate court systems and legal systems, with separate bars, was one of the strongest markers of the quasi-federal nature.

Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lawyers from the Province of Canada

The political unit from 1841-1867 was called the Province of Canada. These people were lawyers in that Province. I do not see any way that this category is inaccurate. I would argue it is more problematic to treat Upper Canada and Lower Canada as if they continue after 1841 when there is just one political unit from 1841-1867.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:35, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Canada West does not even have its own article. It is treated in 1 paragraph in the article on the Province of Canada. The political unit was the province of Canada. Most categories in the Lawyers by former countries tree use from not in.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless, the Lawyers from the Province of Canada should not be deleted. The contents clearly belong in Province of Canada people. If the category is not kept its contents should be upmerged to Province of Canada people, since the articles would otherwise not be there.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Joseph-Guillaume Barthe - BAnQ.jpg

Sarge, are you OK with my cropping this one to remove the black and white borders and the text (or, if you prefer, just cropping the borders but keeping the text)? If you're good with this change, I'll upload it as an extracted version and transfer the usages. -- WikiPedant (talk) 05:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! sounds good, thanks. No need to ask; if you see something that could do with a fix, have at it! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:44, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiPedant: While you're at it, could you take a look at the image of Lewis Thomas Drummond? It's got a tag for Montreal City Archives on it, but I don't think that needs to be kept, since they were not the creators of the image; it's an extract from a drawing back in the 1850s. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drummond.jpg Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both done. Anytime . . . WikiPedant (talk) 02:28, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article Nomination

I was looking at your 250+ edits articles and was wondering if you think any of them might be ready for Good Article Status. I've chosen a horrible time for it right now, but if you are interested, I might have some time for review in August. And even if not me, a couple of those look to be in really good condition. Kwkintegrator (talk) 00:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kwkintegrator: Thanks for this suggestion; appreciated. However, I didn’t enjoy my last go-round with DYK, and I’m not sure I want to branch out into GA. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 06:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LGNSComms

They probably should declare a COI, but the edits they're making don't really seem problematic. COI isn't a blanket ban on ever editing the article at all if the editor has an association with the subject — it just requires them to be careful not to overstep the bounds of neutrality or verifiablity by rewriting the article in a fundamentally advertorialized manner or loading it up with unreferenceable insider baseball, and doesn't ban them from making neutral and objective edits that stay within Wikipedia's rules.

LGNSComms seems to be focused on updating image files and adding value-neutral information, which isn't really a major problem. So it's good to keep an eye on them to ensure that they don't start violating our rules in the future, but looking at their edit history so far, I'm just seeing neutral editing that hasn't really presented major problems yet. Bearcat (talk) 17:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. Makes sense. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 19:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Premiers of Canada

Premier and prime minister are synonymous terms and the category Children of prime ministers includes prime ministers of Ireland, a position that's rendered in the Irish language as Taoiseach, and prime ministers of the Netherlands where the same position is called Minister-president. Even in a Canadian context look at this ''In French, the term premier ministre is used in both the federal and provincial/territorial contexts''. There are national heads of government and there are subnational ones too, so I propose you reinstate all my edits and we solve this cordially. Killuminator (talk) 08:00, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Premier" and "Prime Minister" are not synonomous terms in Canada. Please provide a reliable cite that Mike Harris held the office of "Prime Minister of Ontario", or that John Savage held the title of "Prime Minister of Nova Scotia." You won't be able to, because those offices do not exist. In Canadian English, the "Prime Minister" is the prime minister of Canada; the leaders of the provinces are "Premiers". The collective term for the offices in Canadian English is "First Ministers". The French term is irrelevant because Canadian English and Canadian French use different terms. They are different languages and use different terminology. Pointing to usage in other countries is not determinative: Wikipedia cannot say that a term has the same meaning throughout the world and impose that term regardless of the governance terminology of particular countries. Wikipedia has to reflect the names of the offices used in a particular country, and cannot come up with a "one size fits all" meaning. Finally, your closing words are essentially a threat: "do it my way or else I'll do uncordial things to you." Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 23:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for GA review of Andhra Pradesh

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, I have resubmitted Andhra Pradesh for GA review recently. As you did such a review recently for Tamil Nadu, I would like to alert you and request you to do a review. Thanks Arjunaraoc (talk) 06:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Arjunaraoc:, sorry for delay in getting back to you. I’d be interested in doing this, but I’m on vacation at the moment. If you don’t mind waiting until the end of the month? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, Thanks for your response and interest. Delay is not an issue. Enjoy your vacation. Arjunaraoc (talk) 00:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Will get back to you later on. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 01:08, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Arjunaraoc: "Later on" took longer than I planned; start of the school year, etc. Sorry about that. I will start this one now. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Arjunaraoc, still working on it. It’s a very detailed article and I’m spot-checking cites, so it’s taking some time. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:52, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, Thanks for your update. I was thinking of pinging you regarding the review status yesterday. I am glad to get your update. Arjunaraoc (talk) 06:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm steadily working through the cites, because I see from the previous GA review that was an issue. Will keep working on it. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, Can you share any update on the likely date of completion of review? Arjunaraoc (talk) 05:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delays. Hoping to get it done this weekend. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Library event follow up

Hi @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, I wanted to apologize again about the trouble with the links for the Wikipedia Library event. Is it okay if I ask you a couple questions? I'm working with the Foundation's Campaigns team to see if the email feature with the Event Registration Tool that we used has a bug. Any answers that you're willing to share will help the team investigate further.

Do you have an email associated with your Wikimedia account and/or do you have the Email this User feature enabled in your preferences?
Did you see any emails from my email address (cchiovelliwikimedia.ca) in your spam box?
Who is your email provider? For example, Gmail, Yahoo, Proton mail, AOL

Please feel free to email me with your responses if you would prefer that they remain private. Have a good weekend! - Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA) (talk) 00:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking into it.

1. I have an e-mail account on my preferences, for retrieval purposes if I should fall from grace with the 'pedia. I don't have the "Email this User" feature enabled.

2. There was nothing in my junk box at the time. I checked it a few times when the event was starting to see if I had missed something. A link did turn up some time later.

3. iCloud Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 01:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for getting back to me, I will pass this on to the Campaigns team!

Just to make sure I understand fully - when you say "A link did turn up some time later" do you mean you did eventually receive the event link in your email inbox or are you referring to the event link I posted to the event page?

- Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA) (talk) 20:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, I just wanted to follow up about this last question I had: when you said "A link did turn up some time later" do you mean you did eventually receive the event link in your email inbox or are you referring to the event link I posted to the event page?

Thanks again! Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA) (talk) 19:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did find a link in my junk e-mail box. I didn't think it was there at the time of the event, because I was checking my e-mail, but I could have missed it. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for double checking! I appreciate your help. Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA) (talk) 16:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA):, is the event now recorded and available? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:57, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz,

Thanks for your patience! The recording can be found here: Introduction to the Wikipedia Library (YouTube). Adding French captions has been taking us much longer to finish than we initially planned (hence the delay) but once those are complete, we will be uploading the recording to Commons as well. I'll post an update on the event page and the Canadian Wikipedians notice board as well. Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA) (talk) 17:13, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

White Canadians vs European Canadians

I know you've discussed this before Talk:European_Canadians#"European Canadians" is not limited to those who specifically identify European ethnic origins in the census. See the edit that assumes all white people are European and that all Europeans are white diff. Moxy🍁 05:45, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Gross indecency (disambiguation)

The article Gross indecency (disambiguation) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Disambiguation page not required (WP:ONEOTHER). Primary topic article has a hatnote to the only other use.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shhhnotsoloud: No objection to deletion; thanks for letting me know. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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