User talk:JCL at SelectBlinds

December 2021

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "SB Media Editor", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because Username implies this is a shared account for the company SB Media. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, or you may simply create a new account for editing. If you are not affiliated with SB Media I suggest still changing your username to something else so that people don't assume you are affiliated with the company. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:09, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RESPONSE: We are an organization known as Select Blinds, and we often use SB as an abbreviation. Our contact email is media relations, and our upcoming organizational Wikipedia page falls under the oversight of "media relations" - I submit to you that SB Media Editor is an appropriate username for this account.

You seem to be implying that this is a shared account, which per wikipedia's policies (WP:SHAREDACCOUNT) is not allowed. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:17, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RESPONSE: I am an individual representative of the company - I am a copyeditor. It is not a shared account.

Alright, that is fine, however you should change your username to reflect that. The relevant policy is WP:ISU. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:21, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RESPONSE: I can do that ... is SB Copyeditor acceptable?

That might be fine, however to be safe something like "John from Select Blinds" would be more acceptable (obviously you would substitute John for your name or an online name ~~My name is not actually "Blaze Wolf" however that is what I go by online~~) ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:28, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RESPONSE: OK, I can submit for a name change in that vein.

Alright sounds good! Also, please make sure to sign with your signature on talk pages with ~~~~. Also you said your company was creating an article (Not a page) about themself correct? If so I suggest you have them take a look at WP:PAID and WP:PROMOTION and also see WP:NOTABILITY so they know if they should have an article on themself. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:19, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My organization intends to publish an informational page about the organization (formation, history, etc.) SB Media Editor (talk) 17:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)BlindsYoullLove at SelectBlinds[reply]

Alright the sounds good. As long as it's backed by reliable sources it should be fine as long as it isn't promotional, however the addition of "Blinds You'll Love at Select Blinds" appears to be advertising so I'd recommend excluding that from your signature. If your company has already started it would you mind providing me with the link to it so I can take a look? ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I can exclude that from my signature moving forward. I have not started posting the page yet, but can send you a link when I do. Thanks. SB Media Editor (talk) 17:52, 13 December 2021 (UTC)BlindsYoullLove at SelectBlinds[reply]

No problem! Thanks for being so cooperative with me! ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:55, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem - what's the easiest way to get you the Wikipedia page I'm planning on posting for Select Blinds? In the Sandbox? JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 22:12, 13 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

You can start writing it in draft space via WP:AFC ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 03:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can you read my draft at this URL? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Select_Blinds JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 15:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

Yep I can read it there. It appears to be good in terms of being non-promotional. However it's completely unsourced so it definitely wouldn't be accepted in this state. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:34, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, since you are writing about your business you must declare a COI. The instructions are how to do so are here. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know, thanks! Actually it is sourced, and I've added my sources... can you take another quick look at it? And yes, I did submit my COI via my user page, but it was not saved for some reason. Resubmitting now.JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 15:47, 14 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JCL_at_SelectBlinds JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 15:47, 14 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

You didn't add them correctly, however I can easily fix it since you have the links in text form. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your assistance! Still wrapping my head around this process. JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 16:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

You appear to have used the wrong COI template for your userpage. Also, based on the template you attempted to use you're being paid by the company? ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a permanent, full-time employee of the company. JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 16:24, 14 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

Alright but is the company paying you to create the article, or are you simply just making it because you want to make an article for? If they aren't paying you to make the article specifically then you don't need to declare that you are a paid contributor but that you simply have a COI. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:28, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not getting paid above and beyond my regular salary to create the article. I chose to create it. JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 16:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

Ah alright, then you just have a COI and are not a paid editor. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:50, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I added a COI statement to my user page as well as to the top of the article itself. I'm going to submit for review. Thank you for your assistance! JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 17:55, 14 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

No problem! I don't think the article will be accepted in its current state but I can't really give much feedback on it because I"m not experienced enough in creating pages. I'll be able to explain the advice the reviewer gives you if it is declined (not rejected, rejected means it cannot be accepted as an article and you shouldn't resubmit it) ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:57, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thank you, I appreciate it. JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 18:03, 14 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Cabayi (talk) 18:30, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Select Blinds (December 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia.

Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from elsewhere, unless it explicitly and verifiably has been released to the world under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license or into the public domain and is written in an acceptable tone—this includes material that you own the copyright to. You should attribute the content of a draft to outside sources, using citations, but copying and pasting or closely paraphrasing sources is not acceptable. The entire draft should be written using your own words and structure. Note to reviewers: do not leave copyright violations sitting in the page history. Please follow the instructions here.

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Draft:Select Blinds may be deleted at any time unless the copied text is removed. Copyrighted work cannot be allowed to remain on Wikipedia.
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–Novem Linguae (talk) 19:11, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So the issue here is that you are violating copyright. You cannot just copy what the sources say into your article. You have to summarize what the sources say in your own words. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:17, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I had included some of the copy from the company founder's Wiki page, but I can certainly make sure everything is reworded so as not to include any duplicate materials. Can I resubmit this article in a more standard Wikipedia page format (with the tables on the right and a company logo, etc.) using Wikipedia Article Wizard? JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 21:12, 14 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

Yes you can. You can continue to resubmit the article as you make improvements to it as long as it isn't rejected or accepted (if it's accepted you can't resubmit it anyway since it'll be moved to mainspace). ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:52, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An example of what a good(ish) Wikipedia article should look like is Splatoon 3. I created the article (after some encouragement from other users on the Discord) after Splatoon 3 was announced in the Nintendo Direct. I found reliable sources that provided useful information (and not simply "The game was announced and that's all we know!" since it had been previously announced with little detail so there were older sources from that) and put what they said into my own words. Yes I may have used a few words or phrases from the source, however it's mostly in my own words. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:55, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thank you for the tips! JCL at SelectBlinds (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)JCL at SelectBlinds[reply]

No problem! I'm happy to help you with you article since unlike some other users who write articles about their company, you are simply doing it because you want to. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:25, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Select Blinds (January 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by CNMall41 were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please review WP:ORGCRIT. References must meet this threshold in order to show how the topic is notable.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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CNMall41 (talk) 04:51, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Select Blinds

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Your draft article, Draft:Select Blinds

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:24, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]