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You said the non-cytolytic enterovirus addition to the enterovirus page was "crap": please explain your reasoning

You reverted an inclusion regarding details of non-cytolytic enterovirus (aka non-cytopathic enterovirus) on the enterovirus page on the taciturn grounds of being "crap". Please explain your reasoning for this, using longer sentences and more descriptive words. 91.125.89.101 (talk) 22:17, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

You failed to provide any reliable sources for your information. Without them it is just a crap. Ruslik_Zero 19:25, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
I don't always have the time to do everything at once. I added the text first, and planned to add references later. 91.125.89.101 (talk) 18:39, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
I've added the non-cytolytic section back to the enterovirus page, this time with references. The main secondary source reference is a chapter in a book (reference [12] on the page enterovirus), which covers persistent non-cytolytic enterovirus infections. Perhaps you might like to check the page to see if these references are acceptable. 91.125.89.101 (talk) 01:50, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for tidying up the paragraph. It's good to focus on dilated cardiomyopathy, as this is one of main conditions where research on non-cytolytic enterovirus is performed. However, your quote from a single primary source (Flynn 2017) to support the statement that non-cytolytic infection "probably do not contribute to any ongoing myocardial disease" is not an overall representation of the literature, because the jury is still out as to whether these infections play a causal role in the diseases in which they are found. This 2014 review of persistent enterovirus in T1D concludes that "the molecular and cellular mechanisms of CVB persistence and the link with the development of T1D should be investigated further". And in myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME), where non-cytolytic enterovirus is routinely found in multiple organs including skeletal muscles, this 2005 review paper concludes that "renewed interest is needed to study further the role of enterovirus as the causative agent". This ME review paper surveys evidence from ME studies taking muscle tissue biopsies, and from interferon antiviral therapy which often greatly improves ME.
Although levels of enteroviral RNA are very low in non-cytolytic infections, these infections do nevertheless produce viral proteins (although not as much as in acute infection). In transgenic mice, the enterovirus 2A protein alone is enough to generate dilated cardiomyopathy, and it is hypothesized that the 2A from non-cytolytic infection (which cleaves dystrophin) may be the cause of dilated cardiomyopathy. This paper found enteroviral VP1 protein present in the heart muscle tissues of patients with dilated cardiomyopathy and myocarditis. And Fig 4 of Lévêque 2017 shows that that in vitro protein production of non-cytolytic virus (TD7 to TD49) is not as great as acute wild-type virus protein production, but still quite substantial. Thus it may be worth mentioning that although RNA levels are very low, non-cytolytic infections still produce enteroviral protein. 91.125.89.101 (talk) 16:05, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia is only for settled science. If "jury is still out" it is a reason to exclude this information altogether. I also noticed that you came here to promote a paticular fringe point of view as well as to advertise your own website, which contributors are not allowed to do. This is not going to end well. Ruslik_Zero 19:26, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Sure, I understand that Wikipedia is only for settled science, and I appreciate the difference between settled science and scientific hypothesis. The existence of the unusual non-cytolytic form of enterovirus has been known about for many decades, and so this is settled science. But it is not settled whether or not non-cytolytic enterovirus infection plays a causal role in the diseases in which it is found. So I am thinking that your final sentence "In persistent infections vrial RNA is present only on very low levels and probably do not contribute to any ongoing myocardial disease being a fading remnant of a recent acute infection" in the enterovirus article is perhaps going beyond what we know at present. My suggestion would be to change the final sentence to "Non-cytolytic enterovirus infections produce viral proteins, but levels of viral RNA are very low, and it is not known whether either contributes to disease." Would that be acceptable? I do appreciate your help with this, and I am sure that an experienced Wikipedia editor, you know better than I about what is regarded as acceptable on Wikipedia.
I did write the non-cytolytic enterovirus article on MEpedia, but I do not own that website, I am just a Wiki editor there. 46.208.91.186 (talk) 22:07, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
I do not see evidence that any viral proteins are translated. Ruslik_Zero 07:27, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Some of the studies use a tissue stain to detect enterovirus VP1 protein in tissue biopsies (this stain is a monoclonal antibody called 5-D8/1). The VP1 stain is useful, because it is broadly cross-reactive with a wide range of enteroviruses. So for example, in this study and this study they detected enterovirus VP1 in heart tissue samples from human dilated cardiomyopathy. This VP1 protein cannot come from the wild-type lytic enterovirus, because no lytic virus is found in dilated cardiomyopathy and chronic coxsackievirus B myocarditis tissues. In vitro studies show that non-cytolytic enterovirus with terminal deletions (TD) in its genome can synthesize viral proteins: see Fig 4, which compares protein production in wild-type (WT) enterovirus to TD enterovirus. The enteroviral protein relevant to dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) is the enteroviral 2A protein, a protease which directly cleaves dystrophin. This is hypothesized to be the cause of DCM, though this has not been proven. 46.208.91.186 (talk) 14:50, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Still no evidence. Ruslik_Zero 17:53, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
So you are saying that detecting enterovirus VP1 protein in human tissues infected with non-cytolytic enterovirus is not evidence that these infection produce viral proteins? Can you explain your reasoning please. 46.208.91.186 (talk) 01:09, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
It is not known whether any non-cytolytic virus was present in these samples at all - they did do any detailed analysis of viral RNA. It may have been an ordinary opportunistic enteroviral infection of inflamed tissues. These measurements also did not determine the type of enterovirus, so it is not clear whether it was the same virus that caused the initial infection. Anyway, these are primary research studies that can not be used as sources. Ruslik_Zero 17:32, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
I guess one could argue that the VP1 found in DCM heart tissues might be from an acute wild-type lytic enterovirus infection of the heart, but that seems unlikely given that no VP1 or RNA was found in the control heart biopsies in these studies. Also, other larger studies have shown that enterovirus infections in DCM heart muscle biopsies never contain any wild-type lytic virus: see this study, where they add human DCM heart muscle biopsy tissues to cell lines, but no lytic wild-type infection appears in the cell line. Lytic infection is detected by lysis cell death that manifests in the cell line — no cell death means no lytic virus is present.
Stronger evidence that non-cytolytic enterovirus produces viral proteins comes from this 2008 myalgic encephalomyelitis study, which found that in the stomach tissue biopsies of 165 ME patients, VP1 was detected in 82%, but the study found that "No significant cytopathic effect was shown in the EV RNA-positive cultures, whereas wild type strains of enteroviruses would cause major cytopathic changes within one week". So it is clear that in ME patients' stomach tissues you have enterovirus RNA and you have enteroviral VP1, but the VP1 cannot come from wild-type enterovirus, because no wild-type virus was found in these tissues. Thus the VP1 must be due to the persistent non-cytolytic virus.
Plus the in vitro studies I cited earlier clearly show artificially engineered non-cytolytic viruses produce the full range of proteins. I appreciate these are primary studies, but I am just citing them to indicate that there is reasonable evidence that non-cytolytic infections do produce viral proteins. 46.208.91.186 (talk) 23:22, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
See WP:SYNTH. Ruslik_Zero 18:47, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
I added a similar paragraph about non-cytolytic enterovirus in the Coxsackie B virus page, as CVB is one of the main enteroviruses that can convert into the non-cytolytic form. I hope that is OK with you. Hip-IV (talk) 01:11, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018

Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018
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The science publishing landscape

In an ideal world ... no, bear with your editor for just a minute ... there would be a format for scientific publishing online that was as much a standard as SI units are for the content. Likewise cataloguing publications would not be onerous, because part of the process would be to generate uniform metadata. Without claiming it could be the mythical free lunch, it might be reasonably be argued that sandwiches can be packaged much alike and have barcodes, whatever the fillings.

The best on offer, to stretch the metaphor, is the meal kit option, in the form of XML. Where scientific papers are delivered as XML downloads, you get all the ingredients ready to cook. But have to prepare the actual meal of slow food yourself. See Scholarly HTML for a recent pass at heading off XML with HTML, in other words in the native language of the Web.

The argument from real life is a traditional mixture of frictional forces, vested interests, and the classic irony of the principle of unripe time. On the other hand, discoverability actually diminishes with the prolific progress of science publishing. No, it really doesn't scale. Wikimedia as movement can do something in such cases. We know from open access, we grok the Web, we have our own horse in the HTML race, we have Wikidata and WikiJournal, and we have the chops to act.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:57, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Hillsborough disaster

It is quite incivil to rollback edits without any explanation or reason, unless it is obvious vandalism, which this was not. hbdragon88 (talk) 18:22, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

I am sorry, I probably clicked a wrong link. Ruslik_Zero 19:07, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

IP range block

Hi, Ruslik0 - I posted a notice on your Meta page regarding the range block for (2600:387:0:0:0:0:0:0/48). As you know, Fish and karate got my en.WP acct. working again, there is no problem with my Meta acct., but I cannot edit at Commons. Please exclude my iPad IP in the range block on Commons, or is a month-long global exemption needed? Thanks in advance...Atsme✍🏻📧 03:12, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 17 – 29 October 2018

Facto Post – Issue 17 – 29 October 2018
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Wikidata imaged

Around 2.7 million Wikidata items have an illustrative image. These files, you might say, are Wikimedia's stock images, and if the number is large, it is still only 5% or so of items that have one. All such images are taken from Wikimedia Commons, which has 50 million media files. One key issue is how to expand the stock.

Indeed, there is a tool. WD-FIST exploits the fact that each Wikipedia is differently illustrated, mostly with images from Commons but also with fair use images. An item that has sitelinks but no illustrative image can be tested to see if the linked wikis have a suitable one. This works well for a volunteer who wants to add images at a reasonable scale, and a small amount of SPARQL knowledge goes a long way in producing checklists.

Gran Teatro, Cáceres, Spain, at night

It should be noted, though, that there are currently 53 Wikidata properties that link to Commons, of which P18 for the basic image is just one. WD-FIST prompts the user to add signatures, plaques, pictures of graves and so on. There are a couple of hundred monograms, mostly of historical figures, and this query allows you to view all of them. commons:Category:Monograms and its subcategories provide rich scope for adding more.

And so it is generally. The list of properties linking to Commons does contain a few that concern video and audio files, and rather more for maps. But it contains gems such as P3451 for "nighttime view". Over 1000 of those on Wikidata, but as for so much else, there could be yet more.

Go on. Today is Wikidata's birthday. An illustrative image is always an acceptable gift, so why not add one? You can follow these easy steps: (i) log in at https://tools.wmflabs.org/widar/, (ii) paste the Petscan ID 6263583 into https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/wdfist/ and click run, and (iii) just add cake.

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Thanks for helping out!

Hi Ruslik0, just wanted to drop by and say thanks for helping with the tables on Terry stop. They look much better! Seahawk01 (talk) 02:11, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Athabasca Valles revert

Hi Ruslik -

I just wanted to follow up on a recent revert you performed on Athabasca Valles, in which an LPSC abstract in reference to the InSight landing was removed. I do not think that this revert was justified. I would like to note that there are only two other LPSC abstracts used in citations for Athabasca Valles, and both are used to add information that are otherwise not included in peer-reviewed journal articles or in dissertations about this region.

I did not have the chance, but I had been planning to incorporate a paragraph under "Context" and then under the lead describing the relationship of this landform to relevant NASA landed missions. It would have used this citation. At this time there are obviously no peer-reviewed publications relating to new discoveries into Athabasca Valles due to the InSight project. However, when this putative magma chamber discussion advances with InSight, this LPSC abstract cite can be replaced later. 47.147.221.147 (talk) 14:56, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

You can re-add it but, please, do not use such language such as "For the 2018 Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, an abstract was submitted by Laszlo Keszthelyi, Michael T. Bland, and Colin Dundas of the United States Geological Survey ..." because this looks like promotion. Ruslik_Zero 19:08, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Reverting to manual taxoboxes

Please do not remove any of the templates from the Automated taxobox system. I know the ICTV updates mean a lot of changes, but big changes like that are precisely why we have automated taxoboxes like Template:Virusbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). I appreciate the effort, I just don't want us to make extra work for ourselves: I bet more changes will come in the next ICTV update. --Nessie (talk) 15:47, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

This template should be deleted. It only makes simple things much harder to do. Ruslik_Zero 18:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
You are not in the majority opinion. There's a clear consensus for preferring automatic taxoboxes over manual taxoboxes. --Nessie (talk) 20:17, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 18 – 30 November 2018

Facto Post – Issue 18 – 30 November 2018
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WikiCite issue

GLAM ♥ data — what is a gallery, library, archive or museum without a catalogue? It follows that Wikidata must love librarians. Bibliography supports students and researchers in any topic, but open and machine-readable bibliographic data even more so, outside the silo. Cue the WikiCite initiative, which was meeting in conference this week, in the Bay Area of California.

Wikidata training for librarians at WikiCite 2018

In fact there is a broad scope: "Open Knowledge Maps via SPARQL" and the "Sum of All Welsh Literature", identification of research outputs, Library.Link Network and Bibframe 2.0, OSCAR and LUCINDA (who they?), OCLC and Scholia, all these co-exist on the agenda. Certainly more library science is coming Wikidata's way. That poses the question about the other direction: is more Wikimedia technology advancing on libraries? Good point.

Wikimedians generally are not aware of the tech background that can be assumed, unless they are close to current training for librarians. A baseline definition is useful here: "bash, git and OpenRefine". Compare and contrast with pywikibot, GitHub and mix'n'match. Translation: scripting for automation, version control, data set matching and wrangling in the large, are on the agenda also for contemporary library work. Certainly there is some possible common ground here. Time to understand rather more about the motivations that operate in the library sector.

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Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018

Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018
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Learning from Zotero

Zotero is free software for reference management by the Center for History and New Media: see Wikipedia:Citing sources with Zotero. It is also an active user community, and has broad-based language support.

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Besides the handiness of Zotero's warehousing of personal citation collections, the Zotero translator underlies the citoid service, at work behind the VisualEditor. Metadata from Wikidata can be imported into Zotero; and in the other direction the zotkat tool from the University of Mannheim allows Zotero bibliographies to be exported to Wikidata, by item creation. With an extra feature to add statements, that route could lead to much development of the focus list (P5008) tagging on Wikidata, by WikiProjects.

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There is also a large-scale encyclopedic dimension here. The construction of Zotero translators is one facet of Web scraping that has a strong community and open source basis. In that it resembles the less formal mix'n'match import community, and growing networks around other approaches that can integrate datasets into Wikidata, such as the use of OpenRefine.

Looking ahead, the thirtieth birthday of the World Wide Web falls in 2019, and yet the ambition to make webpages routinely readable by machines can still seem an ever-retreating mirage. Wikidata should not only be helping Wikimedia integrate its projects, an ongoing process represented by Structured Data on Commons and lexemes. It should also be acting as a catalyst to bring scraping in from the cold, with institutional strengths as well as resourceful code.

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Help at cat flu

Hi, the poor-quality edits to cat flu which you reverted in November were restored by the original editor. I tried to roll the article back to the good version, but haven't been able to figure out how to do it. Please could you take a look? It seems like you have some expertise in this area. Thanks. DferDaisy (talk) 01:45, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 20 – 31 January 2019

Facto Post – Issue 20 – 31 January 2019
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Everything flows (and certainly data does)

Recently Jimmy Wales has made the point that computer home assistants take much of their data from Wikipedia, one way or another. So as well as getting Spotify to play Frosty the Snowman for you, they may be able to answer the question "is the Pope Catholic?" Possibly by asking for disambiguation (Coptic?).

Amazon Echo device using the Amazon Alexa service in voice search showdown with the Google rival on an Android phone

Headlines about data breaches are now familiar, but the unannounced circulation of information raises other issues. One of those is Gresham's law stated as "bad data drives out good". Wikipedia and now Wikidata have been criticised on related grounds: what if their content, unattributed, is taken to have a higher standing than Wikimedians themselves would grant it? See Wikiquote on a misattribution to Bismarck for the usual quip about "law and sausages", and why one shouldn't watch them in the making.

Wikipedia has now turned 18, so should act like as adult, as well as being treated like one. The Web itself turns 30 some time between March and November this year, per Tim Berners-Lee. If the Knowledge Graph by Google exemplifies Heraclitean Web technology gaining authority, contra GIGO, Wikimedians still have a role in its critique. But not just with the teenage skill of detecting phoniness.

There is more to beating Gresham than exposing the factoid and urban myth, where WP:V does do a great job. Placeholders must be detected, and working with Wikidata is a good way to understand how having one statement as data can blind us to replacing it by a more accurate one. An example that is important to open access is that, firstly, the term itself needs considerable unpacking, because just being able to read material online is a poor relation of "open"; and secondly, trying to get Creative Commons license information into Wikidata shows up issues with classes of license (such as CC-BY) standing for the actual license in major repositories. Detailed investigation shows that "everything flows" exacerbates the issue. But Wikidata can solve it.

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User:Momfzo

Hi, I've blocked the above user as a confirmed sock of Momefzo (talk · contribs · count), whom you globally locked on January 23. Can you do the same for the new account? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:14, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done Ruslik_Zero 20:02, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:05, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Pneumococcal infection

Do you think i can put those names into the introduction? --2A01:112F:742:C00:80E9:503F:5E3B:469E (talk) 08:41, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Better to the end of that section. Ruslik_Zero 20:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Knightrises10

Hi, I just  Confirmed Cedric White (talk · contribs · count). Can you please globally lock the account? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:13, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done Ruslik_Zero 17:19, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a lot.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:01, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 21 – 28 February 2019

Facto Post – Issue 21 – 28 February 2019
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What is a systematic review?

Systematic reviews are basic building blocks of evidence-based medicine, surveys of existing literature devoted typically to a definite question that aim to bring out scientific conclusions. They are principled in a way Wikipedians can appreciate, taking a critical view of their sources.

PRISMA flow diagram for a systematic review

Ben Goldacre in 2014 wrote (link below) "[...] : the "information architecture" of evidence based medicine (if you can tolerate such a phrase) is a chaotic, ad hoc, poorly connected ecosystem of legacy projects. In some respects the whole show is still run on paper, like it's the 19th century." Is there a Wikidatan in the house? Wouldn't some machine-readable content that is structured data help?

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Most likely it would, but the arcana of systematic reviews and how they add value would still need formal handling. The PRISMA standard dates from 2009, with an update started in 2018. The concerns there include the corpus of papers used: how selected and filtered? Now that Wikidata has a 20.9 million item bibliography, one can at least pose questions. Each systematic review is a tagging opportunity for a bibliography. Could that tagging be reproduced by a query, in principle? Can it even be second-guessed by a query (i.e. simulated by a protocol which translates into SPARQL)? Homing in on the arcana, do the inclusion and filtering criteria translate into metadata? At some level they must, but are these metadata explicitly expressed in the articles themselves? The answer to that is surely "no" at this point, but can TDM find them? Again "no", right now. Automatic identification doesn't just happen.

Actually these questions lack originality. It should be noted though that WP:MEDRS, the reliable sources guideline used here for health information, hinges on the assumption that the usefully systematic reviews of biomedical literature can be recognised. Its nutshell summary, normally the part of a guideline with the highest density of common sense, allows literature reviews in general validity, but WP:MEDASSESS qualifies that indication heavily. Process wonkery about systematic reviews definitely has merit.

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MfD nomination of MediaWiki:Articlefeedbackv5

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Facto Post – Issue 22 – 28 March 2019

Facto Post – Issue 22 – 28 March 2019
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When in the cloud, do as the APIs do

Half a century ago, it was the era of the mainframe computer, with its air-conditioned room, twitching tape-drives, and appearance in the title of a spy novel Billion-Dollar Brain then made into a Hollywood film. Now we have the cloud, with server farms and the client–server model as quotidian: this text is being typed on a Chromebook.

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The term Applications Programming Interface or API is 50 years old, and refers to a type of software library as well as the interface to its use. While a compiler is what you need to get high-level code executed by a mainframe, an API out in the cloud somewhere offers a chance to perform operations on a remote server. For example, the multifarious bots active on Wikipedia have owners who exploit the MediaWiki API.

APIs (called RESTful) that allow for the GET HTTP request are fundamental for what could colloquially be called "moving data around the Web"; from which Wikidata benefits 24/7. So the fact that the Wikidata SPARQL endpoint at query.wikidata.org has a RESTful API means that, in lay terms, Wikidata content can be GOT from it. The programming involved, besides the SPARQL language, could be in Python, younger by a few months than the Web.

Magic words, such as occur in fantasy stories, are wishful (rather than RESTful) solutions to gaining access. You may need to be a linguist to enter Ali Baba's cave or the western door of Moria (French in the case of "Open Sesame", in fact, and Sindarin being the respective languages). Talking to an API requires a bigger toolkit, which first means you have to recognise the tools in terms of what they can do. On the way to the wikt:impactful or polymathic modern handling of facts, one must perhaps take only tactful notice of tech's endemic problem with documentation, and absorb the insightful point that the code in APIs does articulate the customary procedures now in place on the cloud for getting information. As Owl explained to Winnie-the-Pooh, it tells you The Thing to Do.

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Facto Post – Issue 23 – 30 April 2019

Facto Post – Issue 23 – 30 April 2019
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Completely clouded?
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Talk of cloud computing draws a veil over hardware, but also, less obviously but more importantly, obscures such intellectual distinction as matters most in its use. Wikidata begins to allow tasks to be undertaken that were out of easy reach. The facility should not be taken as the real point.

Coming in from another angle, the "executive decision" is more glamorous; but the "administrative decision" should be admired for its command of facts. Think of the attitudes ad fontes, so prevalent here on Wikipedia as "can you give me a source for that?", and being prepared to deal with complicated analyses into specified subcases. Impatience expressed as a disdain for such pedantry is quite understandable, but neither dirty data nor false dichotomies are at all good to have around.

Issue 13 and Issue 21, respectively on WP:MEDRS and systematic reviews, talk about biomedical literature and computing tasks that would be of higher quality if they could be made more "administrative". For example, it is desirable that the decisions involved be consistent, explicable, and reproducible by non-experts from specified inputs.

What gets clouded out is not impossibly hard to understand. You do need to put together the insights of functional programming, which is a doctrinaire and purist but clearcut approach, with the practicality of office software. Loopless computation can be conceived of as a seamless forward march of spreadsheet columns, each determined by the content of previous ones. Very well: to do a backward audit, when now we are talking about Wikidata, we rely on integrity of data and its scrupulous sourcing: and clearcut case analyses. The MEDRS example forces attention on purge attempts such as Beall's list.

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QwertyUyr

Can you please globally lock QwertyUyr (talk · contribs · count)? I don't know who the master is, but the account is  Confirmed to several globally locked socks, including NicolasStanciu (talk · contribs · count). Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done Ruslik_Zero 20:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:41, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Buertuio

Could you please lock Buertuio (talk · contribs · count), who is  Confirmed to many globally locked socks, including Popo503 (talk · contribs · count)? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 11:18, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done Ruslik_Zero 19:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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Facto Post – Issue 24 – 17 May 2019
Text mining display of noun phrases from the US Presidential Election 2012
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It's time for a two-year summation of ContentMine projects involving TDM (text and data mining).

Wikidata and now Structured Data on Commons represent the overlap of Wikimedia with the Semantic Web. This common ground is helping to convert an engineering concept into a movement. TDM generally has little enough connection with the Semantic Web, being instead in the orbit of machine learning which is no respecter of the semantic. Don't break a taboo by asking bots "and what do you mean by that?"

The ScienceSource project innovates in TDM, by storing its text mining results in a Wikibase site. It strives for compliance of its fact mining, on drug treatments of diseases, with an automated form of the relevant Wikipedia referencing guideline MEDRS. Where WikiFactMine set up an API for reuse of its results, ScienceSource has a SPARQL query service, with look-and-feel exactly that of Wikidata's at query.wikidata.org. It also now has a custom front end, and its content can be federated, in other words used in data mashups: it is one of over 50 sites that can federate with Wikidata.

The human factor comes to bear through the front end, which combines a link to the HTML version of a paper, text mining results organised in drug and disease columns, and a SPARQL display of nearby drug and disease terms. Much software to develop and explain, so little time! Rather than telling the tale, Facto Post brings you ScienceSource links, starting from the how-to video, lower right.

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Hello Rusliko,

You replied to my message in the tea house but I did not understand what you meant. Could you please elaborate? The site I wanted to add as external link is totally valid and legit. It should not be blacklisted.

Thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel92140 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Need Info

User box represents the user. I want to know who in en wiki has the best user page in your eyes. I will use that taking permission. Wiki Ruhan (talk) 10:34, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

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"LOL(laughing out loud)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect LOL(laughing out loud). Since you had some involvement with the LOL(laughing out loud) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:53, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 October 25#Module:TNTTools

In what way were the modules were not tagged for deletion as required? I tagged the module when I nominated it for deletion (TfD tags for modules have to go on the doc page because they aren't Lua code). The fact that the creator removed the TfD tag out of process several days later does not somehow invalidate the entire discussion. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:28, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

I am not under any obligation to study the history of pages before the closure. Though if you insists I can remove the word "procedural" from the result, which will prevent you from re-nominating the module for deletion in foreseeable future. Ruslik_Zero 20:42, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Your failure to notice that the TfD was removed prematurely may be understandable, but, given that it has now been pointed out, why are you still refusing to reopen the discussion? Furthermore, even if your claim were true and I had forgotten to tag the module, the proper procedure would have been a relisting, not closing as procedural keep. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:50, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
I'm also concerned about this close and would strongly object to you reclosing the discussion which removing procedural would be. You are now involved as a closer who may or may not have an inclination to close as keep because that was the outcome in your first close. There may very well be a consensus to keep, but you shouldn't determine consensus in this case. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 20:57, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
No, I am not involved admin under any reasonable definition of this term. So, I can re-close it if necessary. Anyway the result was clear that there had been no consensus to delete the module, therefore the result will remain "keep". Ruslik_Zero 08:44, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hi there! I am new here and starting to contribute to Wikipedia. I have so much respect for what you do. Although I am a classically trained writer and do it for a living, I am so enthralled with what you stand for and am doing this as a labor of love.

This is why I was upset to see you marked my latest contribution as spam. I am a sufferer of IC, and we are experiencing some MAJOR breakthroughs in treatment of this 'invisible illness.'

I thought it would be helpful to share the community forum for IC Sufferers where I have basically educated myself over the years and healed myself holistically. That is why my writeup included it. Also that Youtube video included an interview with a specialist who has just shattered some myths and shared some cutting edge information.

I understand it may seem risky, but I assure you I have NO affiliation with either of these, other than seriously believing IC sufferers will turn to this page and get some real value and the latest information.

I am not sure of the policy on removing a "spam" mark from my profile, but I would like to follow whatever protocol I can to get it removed.

For reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interstitial_cystitis&type=revision&diff=930188592&oldid=930185053


Thank You so much for your time and any insights you can provide.

Best, Kelsey

Please, read WP:RS especially WP:RSSELF. Ruslik_Zero 07:26, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hearst Castle

If you're ready to put some work into a worthy article, the Hearst Castle peer review has been underway for a month and could use some more topic experts. Binksternet (talk) 00:55, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia Books

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Global block

Hi, Ruslik. I wrote to you last month to ask for a IP block exemption in en.wiki due to a mischievous IP. Now the same IP has a global block, could you grant me the global IP exemption? Thanks in advance. Regards. Mr.Ajedrez (talk) 21:44, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Matiia has already done it, sorry for bothering. Regards. Mr.Ajedrez (talk) 23:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

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How do I add this information?

Good Day

I added information under treatment and prevention.

May I ask why it has been removed? It is factual, but not scientific (as I stated).

The information is crucial for treatment of this illness that has killed over 4000 in South Africa during 2019.

Kind Regards Slabbertanja (talk) 17:29, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Please, read Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Ruslik_Zero 18:50, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Global watchlist

Hi. I saw your comment at Wikipedia:Help desk#Cross-wiki watchlisting?, saying There is none. Global watchlist is a long standing community desire that has not been realized yet. I currently have a user script that creates a functional global watchlist by retrieving via the api watchlists from each wiki. See m:User:DannyS712/Global watchlist. Hope you find this useful --DannyS712 (talk) 02:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

This one has its won problems. I am, of course, aware of your project. Ruslik_Zero 12:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

A Strange Request

Hi, Rusliko. I'm a relatively new Wikipedian with a somewhat weird personal request. I chose your page semi-random from a set of administrators after seeing you had a Chicago barnstar :). If this is too annoying or a complete waste of your time, feel free to delete.

In brief: I am an alumnus of UChicago, where I was heavily involved in the University of Chicago Scavenger Hunt, an absurd five-day long festival of irreverent and ridiculously arcane and obscure competition. This year, it's online, for obvious reasons, and to help former teammates I wanted to take on an item from this year's List: Get an Wikipedia admin to post their support for our team on their talk page by Sunday (17 May 2020, up between roughly UTC 13:00 to 17:00). You can view the website here, where there's a link to the List itself. This item is #88, and the team name in question is "BJ Scav 2020: 'Don't We Need a Name' and The Open Poll." WhinyTheYounger (talk) 15:04, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

So, I support your team - "BJ Scav 2020: 'Don't We Need a Name' and The Open Poll". Ruslik_Zero 20:01, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
God bless WhinyTheYounger (talk) 04:26, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Quark dispute

How about this? and more specifically here in chapter 10. First of all, this statement is just scientifically incorrect, "Due to a phenomenon known as color confinement, quarks are never directly observed or found in isolation; they can be found only within hadrons, which include baryons (such as protons and neutrons) and mesons (all of which are unstable and short-lived)." Free quarks are no longer in color confinement and have been observed in quark-gluon plasma. Plus, my statement's validity can be confirmed if you go to Hagedorn temperature article for a quick read.

Also, the 2 sources that I added (you already removed them) don't have "Hagedorn temperature" in them because I didn't use them to prove that point. I used the two sources to prove this statement, "Free quarks have been observed in the state known as quark–gluon plasma." Of which, you also removed it from the article. Please reconsider your edit. 14.169.172.125 (talk) 13:07, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

This statement is taken directly from the article quark, "Under sufficiently extreme conditions, quarks may become deconfined and exist as free particles. In the course of asymptotic freedom, the strong interaction becomes weaker at higher temperatures. Eventually, color confinement would be lost and an extremely hot plasma of freely moving quarks and gluons would be formed. This theoretical phase of matter is called quark–gluon plasma.[94]"
I have multiple sources that prove (including source 94 in the quark article), "Due to a phenomenon known as color confinement, quarks are never directly observed or found in isolation; they can be found only within hadrons, which include baryons (such as protons and neutrons) and mesons (all of which are unstable and short-lived)" is a blatantly wrong scientific statement. Another editor with a poor understanding of particle physics kept reverting my edits, so the dispute began. You should visit the article talk page. The editor doesn't offer any valid scientific argument and only spewing out non-sense. 14.169.172.125 (talk) 13:38, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Also, above Hagedorn temperature, quark-gluon plasma occurs. All my sources clearly state that free quarks are found in this state of matter called "quark-gluon plasma". 14.169.172.125 (talk) 13:45, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Quote from this, "If the conditions for forming a bound state aren't met, then confinement is impossible. The four ways we know how to get there are to create a top quark, to look to the early stages of the hot Big Bang, to collide heavy ions together at relativistic speeds, or to look inside the densest objects (like neutron stars or the hypothetical strange quark stars) to find the quark-gluon plasma inside." There are 4 ways to create free quarks, which proves my point that free quarks exist.
I'm trying to prove that the following statement is wrong from current scientific view of particle physics, "Due to a phenomenon known as color confinement, quarks are never directly observed or found in isolation; they can be found only within hadrons, which include baryons (such as protons and neutrons) and mesons (all of which are unstable and short-lived)." 14.169.172.125 (talk) 14:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
All sources that you cited are not reliable. Ruslik_Zero 05:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Reliable sources, secondary and tertiary sources are preferred. All my 3 sources are ALL reliable sources. Here are my reasons why they are reliable sources. Please explain why each of them is not reliable
  1. How is a published book not a reliable source? (source 1)
  2. Source 2 is from CERN website. CERN has the largest particle physics lab in the world. It is leading the world in particle physics research.
  3. Source 3 is from Forbes. Forbes is a well-known American magazine that explains science for the layman. Source 3 is written by a Ph.D. astrophysicist.14.169.212.232 (talk) 06:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

The information in the quark article was written over 10 years ago. It's outdated, and nobody has updated it for the last 10 years. Now, as physicists gain more understanding of the quarks, physicists discover things that they didn't know for sure before. There are many many sources that support my statement (that you and Cuzkatzimhut keep reverting). Here are 3 more sources from many more in addition to the 3 sources above: from Livescience, from Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, and from European Commission, managed by European Union.14.169.212.232 (talk) 06:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

User Rights Change Request

Hello, I would like to request you to grant me rollback rights (WP:ROLLBACK). I have been using Twinkle and the manual ‘undo’ button to revert problematic edits and vandalism. I’m willing to take extra care and follow best practices while using the rollback rights, should you choose to accept my request. Thanks, Idell (talk) 17:37, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

I would prefer if you gained more experience first. Ruslik_Zero 05:26, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Central Station (gay club, Saint-Petersburg, Russia)

An article that you have been involved in editing—Central Station (gay club, Saint-Petersburg, Russia)—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

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Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

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Thanks. Ruslik_Zero 08:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 18#NC 10 (film)

Would you be willing to back out of your close of NC 10 (film)? Nobody advocated for keeping the redirect—there was merely a refutation of the nominator's poor rationale. I don't ever vote for deletion unless there's actual opposition to a given redirect in case I have to close it, so I hadn't, but this is clearly a redirect that should be deleted. For one, there is no mention of the film at the target, so it's unhelpful for anyone wanting to learn anything about the given film. Second, there has been an argument that the film is notable, so it should be deleted per WP:REDLINK to encourage creation of an article at that title. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 14:17, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

I do not see any consensus in any case. Ruslik_Zero 18:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
If it is reopened, I plan to add a delete vote, which should make the consensus even stronger in favor of deletion. Will you agree to do that? -- Tavix (talk) 20:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok, I relisted it. Ruslik_Zero 19:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you! I have now added my !vote. -- Tavix (talk) 20:16, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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