User talk:Robert Petit

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Check your wikilinks

Hi, just a tip: when you edit an article or create an article, you should check your wikilinks before publishing. Your new article Ecobranding has over a dozen wikilinks that go to disambiguation pages when they should link to actual articles. I find it helpful to set Preferences > Gadgets > Appearance > Display links to disambiguation pages in orange as enabled so I can quickly see when one of my links needs to be fixed. Happy editing! Schazjmd (talk) 17:05, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Ecobranding

@Cwmhiraeth: Hello, Robert Petit,

Thank you for creating Ecobranding.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:54, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Cwmhiraeth:,

Many thanks for your help, and every thing you do to improve the Ecobranding Wikipedia Page. I add more references, and cut some parts without references.

Robert Petit

On the promotional nature of your Ecobranding page and other contributions

Dear Robert Petit,

I have read your Ecobranding page and it appears that it serves promotional rather than informational interests. You present Ecobranding has a graphic and artistic movement when it is only effectively used has a marketing strategy by one single advertising agency, Royalties, whose website directly sends to your Ecobranding page. Advertising agency for which the environment does not appear to be a priority.

All your other contributions also intend to promote Ecobranding not has a "graphic and artistic movement" but as the practice of graphic designer Sylvain Boyer or the advertising agency Royalties with which he now seems to be linked. Your best act of dishonesty must be to have slipped Ecobranding as a 21st century art movement between "Digital art" and "Environmental art" (this one really made me laugh). I invite you to read the page Greenwashing that may help you reconsidering how to define Ecobranding.

Please note that Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion and that paid contributions must be disclosed in some ways. It means that if you are linked in any economic way to an article you write or edit, you must at least notify it on your user page.

I personally think that your Ecobranding page is not relevant to be on Wikipedia, but could eventually become acceptable if it was edited transparently and presented only as what it really is: an attempt by designer Sylvain Boyer to propose more environmental visual identities.

Regards, Raoul Anodin (talk) 13:26, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

On "the first design initiative of a dark mode UI"

Hi, I just wanted to inform you that FriendlUi (2018) was not the first initiative to design a dark mode interface since dark mode existed at least since Windows introduced it in Windows Phone 7 back in 2010. Even more so looking at your edit history everything looks like an advertising plug. This considered I'll proceed to revert your edits about FriendlUi.

Enaki (talk • contribs) 13:55, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Enaki, Friendlui is the first concept of dark mode UI for Operating Systen (OS) designed for OLED Screens in aimed to reduce energy consumption.

Friendlui was revealed in February 2018 : https://www.fastcompany.com/90160980/this-brilliant-smartphone-ui-saves-your-battery-and-looks-classy-af

But it's only in novembre 2028n that Google launch the dark mode UI for OS and confirms dark mode is a huge help for battery life on Android : https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/8/18076502/google-dark-mode-android-battery-life

Ecobranding is an open source method but also a design agency, where do you see advertising?

Robert Petit (talk • contribs)

Hi Robert, I said it looks like an advertising because all your edits are directly connected to a commercial entity, it may just be an impression though.

As mentioned, Windows Phone 7 dates back to 2010 and as per this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_7 wiki article and relative source "The default Windows Phone user interface has a dark theme that prolongs battery life on OLED screens as fully black pixels don't emit light."

This implies Friendui was not the first example of this and is not the more relevant. Do you agree with this?

Enaki (talk) 17:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Enaki, I'm a little disappointed with this because the article doesn't indicate that Windows Phone 7 will be in dark mode with OLED, the article only makes suppositions "This may have been a slip on his part, because it assumes that all Windows Phone 7 devices will have OLED screens. LED screens would still use power to display blacks, as the backlight is always on. It seems from his answer that Microsoft may push all WP7S device makers to use OLED.".

The dark mode you mentioned existed for window phone 7, but most window phone 7 screens were not OLED screens but LCD screens that had no ecological impact. Friendlui does not say that it is the first dar mode interface, of course there have been many others before, but friendlui is perhaps the first dark mode interface concept designed for OLED displays to reduce power consumption. And it was only at the end of 2018 that Google's engineers would have noticed that the dark mode OLED was much more ecological

Robert Petit (talk • contribs)

"From what Brix said, the reason Microsoft decided to use a lot of dark backgrounds is because they use less power, thereby increasing battery life." WP7 default dark mode was designed to reduce power consumption in devices where black pixel consume less and to work normally in lcd displays. How is FriendUI different in this? Enaki (talk) 01:29, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Ecobranding

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It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Nomination of Ecobranding for deletion

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Vexations (talk) 21:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Ecobranding

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Ecobranding requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ecobranding. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 02:11, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Robert Petit. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Ecobranding ‎, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Please either disclose your affiliation, or take more caution to maintain a neutral point of view with your edits in the future. Whisperjanes (talk) 19:12, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]