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Trap Music

Any forms of Electronic Music were not a stylistic origin of Trap music. Trap Music only originated from Southern Hip-Hop. Electronic music only incorporates certain characteristics from Trap music into their works but it still is considered Electronic music. The origins of Trap Music were discussed before on here before and in conclusion it is from Southern Hip-Hop. The references you used were false information.

TrapGod (talk) 16:52, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have already been through this discussion and unfortunately the Trap Music page is far from accurate. Some folks really don't wish to accept that EDM trap is a very different animal from the original 1990s Trap. It incorporates influences from dubstep, which in itself took a lot of influence from its UK rap based progenitor Grime.

I was disappointed to see that edits that were correct had been removed yet again Nograviti (talk) 20:25, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Trap Music

The information from the references have false information and there is no confirmed proof of any waves in Trap music. Trap music never incorporated any forms of Electronic music but instead Electronic music did incorporated characteristics from Trap music. There can not be two origins because of that. Again, Trap music only originated from Southern Hip-Hop, hardcore Hip-Hop and Crunk music genres. It would be better to create a "EDM Trap" sub genre page.

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Trap Music

This "fusion" causes too much confusion between Hip-Hop and Electronic music fans because both are very different. You also do not have any proof of actual "waves" from those sources. Also, from your sources, it states artist and producers who were not originators, missing information and that Trap music is: "1/3 Hip-Hop, 1/3 Dance music and 1/3 Dubstep." That is completely false information and it causes others to think that Trap music evolved into a form of Electronic music. Trap music originated and was inspired from drug tracking and the lifestyle around that. Electronic music has nothing to do with that and only takes characteristics from the sonic-sound of Trap Music and incorporates that into its dance music. The problem is EDM sharing the same name as Trap music and causing too much confusion. Again, it would be better to create a "EDM Trap" sub genre page alongside the Drill sub genre page.

TrapGod (talk) 18:27, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

September 2015

Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Tech house, without providing a source or establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 05:37, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Trap Music

There are no "forms of Trap music". There is only one and the information and proof is through out the article page if you read it. I have explained this to you many times before that Trap music did not evolve into a form of electronic dance music. Trap music incorporates the subject matter of drug dealing/drug trafficking and the lifestyle around it (Which is the definition of a "Trap") along side the sonic-sound that was pioneered from early southern Hip-Hop producers such as Three 6 Mafia, Mannie Fresh, Drumma Boy and the originator of the sound, Shawty Redd. All of this is throughout the article. Even in the article it states that EDM "incorporated 'elements' of trap music" in to its works. No where does it state that it evolved in to electric dance music nor is it a STYLISTIC ORIGIN. For it to be a stylistic origin, Trap music has to ORIGINATE from it. EDM only incorporates CHARACTERISTICS of the sound of Trap music into its works. The subject matter isn't included, therefore, it can not share the same name/genre. I have been monitoring and editing this page for nearly two years to make sure the correct information is present. I am not violating any rules and you are giving false information to where even in your "sources" it does not state it evolved into EDM. Please stop reverting my edits.

TrapGod (talk) 00:39, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Trap Music

The sources/references are WITHIN THE ARTICLE. You just do not read them. Trap music incorporates the drug dealing lifestyle with its signature sonic sound:

"It's called trap music," T.I. explains. "So you know it's gonna be dealing with all aspects of the trap. And if you don't know what the trap is, that's basically where drugs are sold. In this country, the majority of us live in a neighborhood where drugs are sold, whether we like it or not. Whether you in the trap selling dope, whether you in the trap buying dope, whether you in the trap trying to get out - whatever the case may be, I'm trying to deal with all aspects of that lifestyle."
Source:
http://www.rapindustry.com/T_I.htm

"It's hand in hand you can't have one without the other. You can't have the Trap without the studio, without the dope. The dope [drug dealing lifestyle]...is what inspires the rap."
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21RCdtJvv6g

"The sound is often called "trap," but the duo [TNGHT] are quick to distance themselves from the term. "That's not trap music!" exclaims Birchard in reply. "Trap music is about cutting bricks," says Pierre. "It's not about twerking, either! That's a whole different culture. It's a hood culture that's not the same. Everyone is so confused and it's a little annoying at times."
Source:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/backstage-with-tnght-grilling-hip-hops-favorite-underground-djs-20130816

I am not putting information down "only because I think it is correct". Please read the article and the sources provided to confirm the information. I have given plenty of proof to back up my claim while you have not given me any. Where is your proof that EDM is a STYLISTIC 'ORIGIN' of Trap music and that Trap Music evolved into a form of Electronic music? Trap music and EDM Trap are two different things. I have explained this to you many times and I can easily report you as well for reverting edits to false information.

TrapGod (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:33, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

October 2015

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Trap music. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 17:15, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genre in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at Dream trance. Binksternet (talk) 05:07, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent editing history at Alive (Sia song) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Binksternet (talk) 05:22, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]