User talk:Ravenpuff/Archives/2023/April

Thank you!

Thanks so much for cleaning up — as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos!  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 04:15, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

roanoke island, north carolina, half dollar

Ravenpuff, i noticed that you recently copyedited the blurb for this half dollar, and wanted to note that i had deliberately placed "(pictured)" after "on one side" because the featured image is a picture of the side of the coin that depicts raleigh, rather than simply a picture of raleigh. with the current wording, i think the use of "(depicted)" may be more appropriate, as per this error report. however, it is a bit unusual to state "depicting on one side Sir Walter Raleigh (depicted)", especially since the initial "depicting" refers to the coin depicting raleigh and the later "depicted" refers to the image depicting raleigh, so i am not sure how best to word it, but i thought that at least i should explain why i had used "(pictured)" the way that i did. dying (talk) 03:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Coat of Arms of Hastings

Your counting of bars and martlets is faulty 2A01:CB19:8F01:C100:190D:6324:3D11:C7A0 (talk) 07:35, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@2A01:CB19:8F01:C100:190D:6324:3D11:C7A0 Hello, I was not the creator of the original file (File:Sir John Hastings, 2nd Earl of Pembroke, KG.png) – please bring it up with Rs-nourse. Thanks! — RAVENPVFF · talk · 13:03, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Page moves

Hello, Ravenpuff,

When you move a page or article, please leave a redirect for the talk page as well as for the article so we don't have unnecessary broken redirects that need to be either corrected or deleted. Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:35, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

If you're curious about what page move prompted this message it was one involving the Wharton School. Thanks again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:37, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@Liz: Thanks for the reminder! FYI, this move was automated with the use of pageswap, which I thought handled talk pages automatically as well but doesn't always, it seems. I'll make a habit of checking. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 18:44, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

armenian genocide denial

Ravenpuff, i am admittedly having trouble understanding this edit. you appear to have cited mos:lq as the reason why you moved the terminal punctuation outside of the quotation marks, but the blurb actually quotes the whole sentence, and i believe mos:lq advocates placing the terminal punctuation within the quotation marks when a full sentence is quoted. (a passage containing the quoted sentence can be found in the footnotes.) i also was unable to figure out why you removed the capitalization from "There"; the original sentence appears to have followed the pattern seen in the example given under the first bullet point in the manual of style's section on punctuation before quotations, so i did not think that leaving the word capitalized would have been an issue. your removal of "Historian" also confused me, since the blurb was already within the character limit, so there did not seem to be a need to drop any details.

by the way, is there a standard at tfa regarding when to use a comma and when to use "in" when mentioning the year a photo was taken? i don't have a personal preference, but i noticed that you replaced "in" with a comma in the caption, so i am wondering if there was something that i may have missed. dying (talk) 23:56, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

@Dying: For embedded quotations, I think it's often better to leave the terminal punctuation outside the quote mark, since properly speaking the full stop applies to the entire sentence that contains the quotation, and leaving it outside makes it slightly clearer and doesn't detract from the accuracy of the quote. A similar argument applies for beginning the embedded quotation with a lowercase letter since it directly continues the sense of the sentence, and I made the same changes in the lead of the target article. But the original syntax wasn't incorrect per se, and I believe I might have slightly misremembered what MOS:LQ has to say about it; sorry for any minor oversteppings!

Regarding captions: the standard for the rest of the Main Page is to keep them very concise (i.e. usually no more than two lines), since the images are small and space is limited, which is why I believe it's normally sufficient to give the name, especially if its link to the FA subject is already discussed in the blurb. In this vein, the use of a comma in the (rarer) occasions where the inclusion of a year is appropriate just gives things a bit more concision. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 13:48, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Banqueting House, Whitehall

Seriously???!!! While we have banqueting house it is foolish to build on differences of capitalization, definite article etc. Please revert yourself, or I will. Johnbod (talk) 19:59, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@Johnbod: I should note that Banqueting House (both caps) had already redirected to the Whitehall article since 2006 (and arguably appropriately so since the Whitehall one is the primary topic for "Banqueting House"), and I'm sure you're also aware that WP:DIFFCAPS does allow for such minor variances in article titles. I certainly don't have any strong objection to reverting my own change, but just thought I should let you respond to this comment. Thanks — RAVENPVFF · talk · 20:08, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. What really annoyed me was the wholly specious The Banqueting House, but I now realize that's not you (and has also been there for years). I'll look at the views before forming a view on what should be primary (watch the talk) but the generic article shouldn't be ghettoized. Johnbod (talk) 20:51, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@Johnbod: Yes, I agree. I've moved the dabpage to Banqueting House (disambiguation), which is at least more suitably titled. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 02:44, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 02:56, 25 April 2023 (UTC)