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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Grizzly (Nuclear Software)
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- It appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement of https://moose.inl.gov/grizzly/SitePages/Team.aspx. (See section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: MAMMOTH (Nuclear Software) (January 13)
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Hello, Rankin15!
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- I reverted the declination due to copyright grounds, but many issues remain.S Philbrick(Talk) 21:10, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:BISON (Nuclear Software)
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A tag has been placed on Draft:BISON (Nuclear Software), requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
- It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
- It appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement of https://bison.inl.gov/SitePages/Team%20Members.aspx?researcharea=*&organization=BISON. (See section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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- Home Lander, I removed the CSD template. I don't believe it qualifies is G 12 because I believe it is a work of the federal government and thus public domain although the article did not comply with our attribution requirements as required and as noted in a subsequent post.
- My rationale obviously does not address the G 11, but given that the editor is being paid to create this article and has disclosed, I think it's worth waiting to see if the issues can be resolved. S Philbrick(Talk) 20:53, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Issues
[edit]The draft you are working on: Draft:BISON (Nuclear Software)
Came to my attention because it triggered a potential copyright concern. I believe that because it's a work product of the federal government, it is not technically a copyright violation, but it does have a number of problems.
Technically, I could remove it because it doesn't comply with our attribution requirements, but given that it's in draft space, I'll let that go and encourage you to do some homework.
At a minimum, you need templates to acknowledge that this is not your work and is public domain. I urge you to look here: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Help:Public_domain
also note that there are multiple problems with the formatting, including the referencing.
See: Wikipedia:Manual of Style
and Help:Referencing_for_beginners
You might also check in at the teahouse for general advice. Wikipedia:Teahouse/QuestionsS Philbrick(Talk) 20:50, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- See WP:PD#US government works where they have an example of Oak Ridge National Laboratory. The Idaho National Laboratory would be very similar to this case. Even if it is by US.gov, it should not be a copy-paste of their website pages. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- AngusWOOF, I agree that it should not simply be a copy paste, which is why I dropped some comments in expressing my concerns about the content. However, I don't think we should remove it on the basis of copyright violations. S Philbrick(Talk) 21:31, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'll follow up on my point above and direct it to Rankin15. While I have pushed back on the removal of the material due to copyright concerns, that doesn't mean that everything is fine. Many new editors under-appreciate that Wikipedia has a "house style" and material written for other purposes and other audiences may not be appropriate as is in a Wikipedia article. Part of this is technical — we have a style for references, we have rules regarding what should be in bold and not bold, etc. The copied material doesn't remotely comply. There are also some embedded links which are a violation of our manual of style. The list of team members follows a nonstandard style. Plus, I haven't even addressed whether this meets our notability standards.S Philbrick(Talk) 21:40, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- So if it refers word-by-word to Idaho National Laboratory website material, or potentially its research, how is that different from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory case presented on the WP:PD article where it says: "The Oak Ridge National Laboratory, for instance, is operated by a contractor for the US Department of Energy, but that does not mean the works it produces are "works of the federal government". ORNL works are copyrighted, and the US government is granted a non-exclusive license to use, publish, and allow republication of such works. The precise terms vary from one lab to the next, but in general, commercial re-use of their works is prohibited" Looking at the ORNL website and the INL website, they are formatted in a similar manner, referring to US Dept. of Energy in the footer. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:46, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- AngusWOOF, Excellent point, AngusWOOF. I confess I saw the DOE icon and wanted to make sure we weren't overreacting. after looking closer I see
(Emphasis added). It is saying they are operating it for the DOE not that they are the DOE. Despite spending a lot of time copyright issues, I had not fully read Wikipedia:Public_domain prior to today — I agree that the Oak Ridge example is very much on point. that may have been something nagging me in the back of my mind, because I use the phrasing "I believe it is a work of the federal government", rather than the more definitive "it is a work of the federal government".INL is operated for the Department of Energy by Battelle Energy Alliance
- It may well be a copyright violation.
- I realize it is only been a day but I'm disappointed that the editor has not weighed in. Would you be averse to placing this issue on hold for a day or two while we wait to hear from the editor? As I and others have noted, there are significant issues other than the potential copyright violation, and it will be more difficult to discuss these with a good-faith editor if they are gone. I do recognize that we want to act swiftly in the case of copyright violations, so if you think we should not wait I would be hard-pressed to argue. the site doesn't explicitly state copyright — while I am very aware that copyright is automatic and doesn't need to be stated, I think it's worth asking the question whether the editor can check out the copyright status because there's at least a chance that this is viewed as public domain due to their relationship with the Department of Energy. I'll reiterate that that would not make everything okay, but it may be worth waiting a day or two to hear the answer. S Philbrick(Talk) 14:11, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Sphilbrick, sure, I wouldn't mind if it were written and referenced properly so it isn't in the same verbiage as presented on the website, and would give some leeway to close paraphrasing if the website statements aren't copyrighted. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- AngusWOOF, Excellent point, AngusWOOF. I confess I saw the DOE icon and wanted to make sure we weren't overreacting. after looking closer I see
- So if it refers word-by-word to Idaho National Laboratory website material, or potentially its research, how is that different from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory case presented on the WP:PD article where it says: "The Oak Ridge National Laboratory, for instance, is operated by a contractor for the US Department of Energy, but that does not mean the works it produces are "works of the federal government". ORNL works are copyrighted, and the US government is granted a non-exclusive license to use, publish, and allow republication of such works. The precise terms vary from one lab to the next, but in general, commercial re-use of their works is prohibited" Looking at the ORNL website and the INL website, they are formatted in a similar manner, referring to US Dept. of Energy in the footer. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:46, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: RELAP-7 (January 13)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Rattlesnake Nuclear Energy Software (January 13)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Marmot Nuclear Energy Software (January 13)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: MAMMOTH Nuclear Energy Software (January 13)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Grizzly Nuclear Energy Software (January 13)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: BISON Nuclear Energy Software (January 13)
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[edit]Hi, I'm Girth Summit, an administrator and new article reviewer here. I've just declined a whole bunch of your drafts - please stop creating drafts that consist of external links, or which contain copyright violations. Read the links you have been given above. Read WP:FIRST. Read WP:COPYVIO, WP:NCORP, and WP:NOTPROMO. Please read these before making any more drafts. Thanks GirthSummit (blether) 23:31, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hi - just a note to expand on the comments above. I had overlooked the comments that User:Sphilbrick made - if the content is indeed in the public domain then, with appropriate attribution, would could potentially host it in draft space without any problems. If you would like me to restore the deleted drafts I will be happy to do so. The other concerns still stand though - the text as you had it is not appropriate for an article in Wikipedia. You would need reliable independent sources supporting the content (so not your own website, but material written by people unrelated to your organisation), and it would need to be phrased in a more neutral manner - phrases such as 'For licensing information please contact...' are inappropriately promotional for an encyclopedic article. Let me know if you want me to restore the drafts for you to work on. Thanks GirthSummit (blether) 08:47, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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The page Draft:MAMMOTH (Nuclear Software) has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from https://moose.inl.gov/mammoth/SitePages/Home.aspx. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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The page Draft:BISON (Nuclear Software) has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from https://bison.inl.gov/SitePages/Team%20Members.aspx?researcharea=*&organization=BISON. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, you may contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you may open a discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion Review GirthSummit (blether) 23:42, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: MAMMOTH (Nuclear Software) (January 26)
[edit]Your draft article, Draft:Rattlesnake Nuclear Energy Software
[edit]Hello, Rankin15. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Rattlesnake Nuclear Energy Software".
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:19, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:RELAP-7
[edit]Hello, Rankin15. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "RELAP-7".
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Μεταφερθείσα (talk) 05:26, 15 July 2020 (UTC)