User talk:RadicalOne/February 2010
First off, Sagan wrote a famous article about his experiences with cannabis in 'marijuana reconsidered'. His wife has spoken out against cannabis being illegal and spoke nothing but good things about both of their experiences. You are making silly assumptions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.65.99 (talk) 00:00, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
edit: i just read your reply back, i'm afraid the whole way you and the other admins are acting here is (as i mentioned before) very similar to the vorgons. Wrapping everything in red tape for the sake of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.65.99 (talk) 00:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
- First off, please stop adding these at the top of the page. Use the "new section" button or link.
- Moving on, yes, I am aware of Druyan and Sagan's position on the drug - and I will freely admit it is not one I agree with - but an image labelled "Smoke Weed" has the potential to be extremely destructive to Sagan's reputation and to Wikipedia as a reliable source. Lastly, you must stop the personal attacks or you risk being blocked.
- Oh, by the way - I am not an admin - nor do I want to be - so your "you and the other admins" conspiracy theory falls flat on its ass. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 00:06, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Admin/mod/authority position of some sort, the name dosn't matter much to me, whatever authority position you guys are in you're wrapping everything in red tape, don't worry , maybe it would be helpful for wikipedia to add a 'no fun zone' tag to pages, you guys do seem to have something against it. Night night. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.65.99 (talk) 00:27, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
- We have no authority that you do not, though there are a few system operations (such as page creation) that can not be performed by non-registered IPs.
- Wikipedia is a serious encyclopedia. Jokes have no place in articles. There is even a set of warnings for users who do add such content. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 00:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Copied from another talk page
[edit]"One of the Reptilians"?
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Haha. Very, very humorous indeed. Do you know what I do to vandals, especially ones that have a motivation such as yours?
-RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 04:44, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- We must stop him, lest we become exposed! XXX antiuser eh? 04:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I do not appreciate being associated with David Icke's paranoid fantasies and delusions. I have no desire to control world politics, economy, or culture, and I do not feed on fear and blood. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 04:47, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I do feed on fear and blood, but Wikipedia doesn't have any rule against that, as long as I edit from a neutral point of view. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 04:49, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I was hoping to get him scared enough to eat him. Alas, foiled! XXX antiuser eh? 04:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- What, is there another species (and thus another civilization) on this planet? One we didn't know about?
- Eat him? I doubt he would taste very good. Humans have a great deal of fat. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 04:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- *spits out* Agreed.Abce2 (talk) 04:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, more for me! Om nom nom nom XXX antiuser eh? 04:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- *spits out* Agreed.Abce2 (talk) 04:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I was hoping to get him scared enough to eat him. Alas, foiled! XXX antiuser eh? 04:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I do feed on fear and blood, but Wikipedia doesn't have any rule against that, as long as I edit from a neutral point of view. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 04:49, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I do not appreciate being associated with David Icke's paranoid fantasies and delusions. I have no desire to control world politics, economy, or culture, and I do not feed on fear and blood. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 04:47, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
If you would prefer to dine on lunatics, I suppose your phrase is "suit yourself".
Seeing how crazy some people can be does indeed put a knot in one's tail. Out of laughter, not anxiety. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 04:59, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I don't like suits. They get in the way of the meat flavor.Abce2 (talk) 05:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- What meat flavor? All I taste is paranoia.
- More seriously, if something is intelligent enough to be wearing clothing, it is not something that should be considered a food source. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 05:05, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- A chicken wearing a tux??Abce2 (talk) 05:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- That would not be on the chicken's own accord, would it?
- On a sidenote, I don't much like chicken; it is dry and rather bland. I prefer, well, you would call it "red meat". -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 05:07, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- But really, I'm more of a fan of RBI, but somehow I got sucked in this.Abce2 (talk) 05:09, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- A chicken wearing a tux??Abce2 (talk) 05:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
I must admit I do not know what "RBI" is. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 05:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- Revert, block, ignore. Only bad part is that you can't eat it. Abce2 (talk) 05:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I am starting to get hungry...I'll go raid our food stores.
- Revert, Block, Ignore? Opportunities like this are rather rare. Not often does someone come so close to truth and then tangent away from it along popular delusions. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 05:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:RBIExplains better.Abce2 (talk) 05:17, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I see. The premise is fairly sound - I have some issues I will not go into here - but this was too good of an opportunity to "pass up". (I really do not like that phrase; it reminds me of vomiting.) -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 05:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- Same here with the issues part.Abce2 (talk) 05:24, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- I see. The premise is fairly sound - I have some issues I will not go into here - but this was too good of an opportunity to "pass up". (I really do not like that phrase; it reminds me of vomiting.) -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 05:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:RBIExplains better.Abce2 (talk) 05:17, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Where were we? Oh yes, having fun at the vandal's expense. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 05:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, should we give this vandal the "wet trout" treatment? Or is it time for me to charge my laser? Either way, :I'm not one to eat vandals myself, but the vandal has been blocked, so I guess you're free to do something there... Aurora Illumina 19:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well, this was copied here because of its deletion from the original page; the deleting user said "stop poking the IP". -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 19:55, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- WP:DFTT. I have gone ahead to RPP for you. fetchcomms☛ 23:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. This started rather humorously, but it has rapidly turned sour. It is clear that this user has a rather irrational hatred he or she wants to vent, and I have no intention of allowing my userpage to be their airlock. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 23:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Do not insult the vandals. I was going to mention it the other day after seeing the completely inappropriate baiting at User talk:70.30.5.114. I've blocked people for less. If you can't be nice to them then just report them and ignore them then we can be done with them, else, we are all likely to see even more disruption than now. This is true of all vandals. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:09, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. This started rather humorously, but it has rapidly turned sour. It is clear that this user has a rather irrational hatred he or she wants to vent, and I have no intention of allowing my userpage to be their airlock. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 23:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- WP:DFTT. I have gone ahead to RPP for you. fetchcomms☛ 23:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, this was copied here because of its deletion from the original page; the deleting user said "stop poking the IP". -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 19:55, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Except that this user isn't just a troll looking for attention; his or her opinions are ones I have received before. There is a genuine xenophobic hatred behind this. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 00:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- That is neither excuse nor rationale, nor likely to affect the predicted response. I hope you take my point. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Query regarding warnings issued to FergalG
[edit]Hello. Why did you issue two additional escalated warnings to FergalG (talk · contribs) when the editor stopped prior to the first warning? Thanks, — Kralizec! (talk) 00:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- I added one for each edit; it is only because of my watchlist that I found their last edit first. Had I not checked contributions (and had it not been an IP reverting one of his edits; IPs don't usually warn), someone else would have added the warnings. Also, the account is being used solely for vandalism (it was created very shortly before the vandalism began, and has no constructive edits); even had I not dropped the other two warnings, I would have still reported him/her. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 00:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- So I take it you are not familiar with the instructions at the top of WP:UTM that state, "you should check that the user has made harmful edits since their last warning – the user must be given a chance to see and react to each warning given"? Since FergalG has not made any edits since your first warning (and as the next two are improper escalations), I have declined your block request. — Kralizec! (talk) 00:52, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- I am familiar with them, but I would have thought VOA accounts - yes, I know that is redundant - are an exception, as their "wikifaith" and intent are clear and malignant. Do you really think it likely the user will make constructive edits (under that username)? More likely than not, when the warning but no block is given, the account in question will go permanently dormant, and the user will find another identity from which to vandalize, or less statistically likely, make constructive edits under that new username. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 00:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- As per WP:BLOCK, we are supposed to educate new editors when their actions conflict with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. In this case, the editor in question stopped making test edits eight minutes before you slammed him or her with three levels of escalated warnings, so I can hardly justify blocking the account when the person has not actually disregarded any of our attempts at education. — Kralizec! (talk) 01:22, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- I am familiar with them, but I would have thought VOA accounts - yes, I know that is redundant - are an exception, as their "wikifaith" and intent are clear and malignant. Do you really think it likely the user will make constructive edits (under that username)? More likely than not, when the warning but no block is given, the account in question will go permanently dormant, and the user will find another identity from which to vandalize, or less statistically likely, make constructive edits under that new username. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 00:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- So I take it you are not familiar with the instructions at the top of WP:UTM that state, "you should check that the user has made harmful edits since their last warning – the user must be given a chance to see and react to each warning given"? Since FergalG has not made any edits since your first warning (and as the next two are improper escalations), I have declined your block request. — Kralizec! (talk) 00:52, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps that is where our mindsets differ. You apparently see the contributions as test edits; I do not, though they are indeed far less overt than a lot of other vandalism I see (had I seen ones like this, this, and this, I probably would have dropped a uw-bv). That seems a logical reason for our differing approaches. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 01:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Concerning the Megafauna IP
[edit]I just want to let you know that this particular anonymous editor (who uses several related IPs) has a history of trying to indiscriminately stuff things into category:megafauna or permutations of category:megafauna. I mean, "megafauna" isn't a well defined category if you include every animal bigger than a dog or a shrew in it.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- Oh. That does indeed change how I view the inclusion, but I cannot help feeling that this organism does indeed fit the megafauna description. It is larger than most land predators, and by far the largest recent ave that I know of. I'm not a paleontologist or a biologist, so my word is far from law. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 04:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- Diatryma was indeed a great and terrible bird, but it wasn't the largest: the title of "largest predatory bird" goes to the phorusrhacid Kelenken. But, I digress: what's the point of having Diatryma in category:Megafauna if you're also going to put Hyracotherium in it, too?--Mr Fink (talk) 04:18, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, that does not belong in that category. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 04:35, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- Diatryma was indeed a great and terrible bird, but it wasn't the largest: the title of "largest predatory bird" goes to the phorusrhacid Kelenken. But, I digress: what's the point of having Diatryma in category:Megafauna if you're also going to put Hyracotherium in it, too?--Mr Fink (talk) 04:18, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Loremaster, and welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Reptilians. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 23:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Although I agree that I should add mroe edit summaries, my recent edits of the Reptilians article was not controversial. That being said, I have been contributing to Wikipedia for over 5 years. During this time, I have improved the quality of numerous articles painstakingly making sure that my edits are factually accurate and supported by references as much as possible. The fact that some of these articles appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article demonstrates my knowledge and respect for Wikipedia guidelines and standards. So I don't need to be lectured like I'm some newbie. Thank you. --Loremaster (talk) 00:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- The reason I posted the message is because your edit (the second one) consisted only of removing the name of the website, and thus making the sentence "...Brian Dunning on suggests that...". On suggests that? That makes no sense. Which is why I reverted that one (and only that one, the others were useful) edit. Oh, and please do not recopy the warning onto my page - it makes it look like I gave myself the warning. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 00:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Hersfold template
[edit]Did you follow the directions on User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate including the special subpage and the monobook entry? -- Avi (talk) 03:23, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yes. I should probably inform you that I have a custom version of the template (though even the original does not work). -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 03:24, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- Update: I notice the functional group (to borrow a chemistry term) is this link: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RadicalOne/Status&action=edit&amfind=.*&amreplace=online&amlocal=1&amsummary=Setting%20status%20to%20%22online%22&amautosave=yes&amminor=1 <font color="#00ff00">On</font>]. I can parse and understand that. However, that link takes me to edit my status page; it does not auto-replace it. Why? -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 03:37, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- I should also point out that I have to replace the "&"s with "?"s to get the links to work properly - and not just here, but with every Wiki-action in an URL, including edit, section, and purge. But if I replace all of them, I get a "no such action" error message. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 03:53, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why; I'll poke around a bit and see if I can find some reason. -- Avi (talk) 06:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- Is there a reason that your custom template is in a noinclude div? -- Avi (talk) 06:51, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yes. There are two copies on that page, one that has the original update links, one that does not. The latter is in the noinclude. The former is not. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 23:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Hope I'm not intruding
[edit]I saw your post at the creator of "our" Status indicator and thought you might be able to help me. I've installed the indicator but can't get it to work, other say I have the code wrong on User:Mlpearc/monobook.js but I've changed it around every way I can think of, and all I can get the indicator to show is that I'm "LOST" which is correct. Every time I click a status button I get sent to Editing User:Mlpearc/Status this page. If you could help ? Mlpearc (talk) 16:40, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- I had that same problem, so yes, I know of a likely solution.
- First off, the javascript page must be under your skin. Monobook is only the default; I use vector - and thus have User:RadicalOne/vector.js - and you may use yet another.
- Second, the default code appears to be nonfunctional. Try copying my code - custom-written - which is linked above. It will require slight modification to your template (and therefore you need to create your own subpage with it like I have.
- "Lost" means a non-recognized string is on your status page; for example, a "3152" would generate "lost". It is a default intrinsic to the template and to the "switch" function; my template, rather different would look like the following:
Sorry I tried to leave this message aboved but the only thing that showed up was my sig. I just want to Thank you for help and time but I'm at a point where I'm creating pages I don't think I should be, copy and pasteing things I probably have no business doing so. Any way I think I'm going to try again later but I want to let you know what I've done incase I've messed up something in your system (I don't think so but if I have, I am very sorry and please vent and cuss at me on my User talk:Mlpearc ! Ive copied and pasted one of you pages and went through and changed every entry with your username to mine, thinking this would be a good building block. you can see what I've done here User:Mlpearc/Status Template. These two pages I know I need one of them which I can't figure out User:Mlpearc/monobook.css and User:Mlpearc/monobook.js and aparently the code on either is incorrect. I know I'm smart enough to be able to figure this all out, but for some reason I cannot get a grasp. I think I'll "nav-around" in Vector and see if It fits my fancy,at theis point I'm just brain dead and I sincerely hope I havn't given you a headache Mlpearc (talk) 00:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Vector looks very much like Monobook I think i can hang in for while Mlpearc (talk) 00:22, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- If you simply copied mine, then there is no risk of damaging my template.
- Yes, changing all of the usernames to your own is a good way to start. It used to have a {{BASEPAGENAME}} tag, but I removed that for simplicity.
- "[skin].css" is unnecessary to this template; you did not need to create it.
- Did you try copying my (completely different) javascript?
- -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 00:24, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- Ok I've copied you javascript page and started User:Mlpearc/vector.js page and pasted you script there but don't I need to somehow cahnge the base indicator on my user page and the link them somehow ? Mlpearc (talk) 00:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- Base indicator? I do not know what you mean.
- The code should be fine as is; what it does is replace your status page with the text in the link ("On" will replace with "On", and so on). That should work no matter what. As long as your version of the template correctly refers to these cases - via the aforementioned "switch" command - it should work. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 00:52, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- What I ment "base Indicator" I made all these changes but I've never touched the template I got from User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate thats still on my user page. Mlpearc (talk) 01:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- If my code is to work, you need to modify the base template (by copying it to your own user subpage) so that it knows what to look for on your status page. Otherwise, it will always read "lost".
- Ok I've copied you javascript page and started User:Mlpearc/vector.js page and pasted you script there but don't I need to somehow cahnge the base indicator on my user page and the link them somehow ? Mlpearc (talk) 00:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Help
[edit]If I put together a list of links to my pages would you (only if you have the time) take a look and see what's wrong with my status indicator, ok I hoping to "be hooked up". I understand if you can't Mlpearc (talk) 02:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- I can do that, sure. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 02:32, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Here are the lastest verisons of the pages I think you'll need. I am now using Vector and like it, so I think the monobook pages might get in the way. Thank you very much. User:Mlpearc,User:Mlpearc/vector.js,User:Mlpearc/StatusUser:Mlpearc/monobook.css,User:Mlpearc/monobook.js Mlpearc (talk) 02:54, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- I see what you have done wrong. Hold on; I am going to edit and create some of your user subpages.
- OK, your template now reads your status page.
- One thing: I was not aware you were using the default template; since you are, you must use the default code; my js file will not work to update your links.
- -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 03:00, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Ok cool I see my status shows on line, but can't change it, so I need to create a status page for each status ? Or it would be better to change the default template ? Mlpearc (talk) 03:32, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- No, what you need to do it either replace the script at vector.js with the default one, or, if you want to use my script, make your own template that is, code-wise, a derivative of mine. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 03:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- K so for a dummie like which has no idea how to re-work your script the easy way is to replace the script to the default one that I got at User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate? Mlpearc (talk) 03:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Here are the lastest verisons of the pages I think you'll need. I am now using Vector and like it, so I think the monobook pages might get in the way. Thank you very much. User:Mlpearc,User:Mlpearc/vector.js,User:Mlpearc/StatusUser:Mlpearc/monobook.css,User:Mlpearc/monobook.js Mlpearc (talk) 02:54, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Correct, though I doubt you are a "dummy". -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 04:02, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your time, I think I can get it working, though I do like your better. I just copy and paste "
importScript('User:Henrik/js/automod.js');
" to my status page and erase the online you put there, ? Mlpearc (talk) 04:12, 22 February 2010 (UTC)- No, you put that line on User:Mlpearc/vector.js. Your status page is the page the template refers to. The links in the template change that page. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 04:31, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Cool still not changing, but now a least I know I'm down to one page I'll play with the code tomorrow, and again thanx for your help, If I can ever help you just let me know Mlpearc (talk) 04:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
"Not Confirmed"?
[edit]{{adminhelp}}
I was checking my watchlist, and then received a notification message: "Your account is not confirmed!"...
I was autoconfirmed a long time ago; is this referring to some "official" equivalent?
The message behaved like the "new messages" notice, but was the color of the speedy delete notice; an attempted simulation is below.
What happened? -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 02:55, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- This may require some admin privileges. I am changing your tag to adminhelp. I hope someone will respond shortly.— Hamza [ talk ] 04:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure what happened. The confirmed user right is given manually to users who haven't been autoconfirmed, but autoconfirmation happens (shockingly) automatically by the software the instant you meet the 4 day/10 edits requirement. You might try asking on WP:VP/T. Killiondude (talk) 04:36, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Sol
[edit]I notice that although you have userboxes refering to Earth as Terra and the Moon as Luna you do not have one referring to the sun as Sol. Surely that isn't deliberate?! :P Abyssal (talk) 02:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- No, I simply forgot. Here it is. -RadicalOne•Contact Me•Chase My Tail 03:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)