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Possibly unfree File:Library of NRSJPS.jpg[edit]A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Library of NRSJPS.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you object to the listing for any reason. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 22:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC) Possibly unfree File:Top view of New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary.jpg[edit]A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Top view of New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you object to the listing for any reason. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 22:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC) What can i do to prevent it from being removed?? --Pratham 10:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)Prathamprakash29
Protection templates[edit]Pratham: Don't add statements about articles being semi-protected when they aren't. In any case, the school article is not being vandalised, and the only IP who's been editing it so far as I remember is 74, who's a helpful person! Thanks for the reference and for adding the second website - why are there 2? Is the school trying to see which company will do a better job, or is one newer and the other older? Now can you find us any newspaper references? I can't search because I can't read Devanagari well enough, sorry :-( Yngvadottir (talk) 16:46, 5 January 2014 (UTC) there are 2 websites. one old and one new. please add some more options in infobox so that i can add more details.--Pratham 16:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)Prathamprakash29
Good article nomination[edit]I note that you have nominated New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary for good article status. I fear that this process will fail. Your article still lists only a single independent source: the CBSE listing. This single source is insufficient to verify all of the facts in the article. An article that fails verifiability will not likely pass muster at Good Article Review. You have been asked on numerous occasions to provide independent sources from local newspapers, etc. These sources need not be in English (although that is preferred) and need not be available online (although, again, that is preferred), but there must be sources that other editors can check to verify the information in the article. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:06, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hello Pratham. I am 74, who works with Yngvadottir. We need your help.
- You must provide newspaper stories, please.
- Right now.
- New_R._S._J._Public_School_Senior_Secondary might be deleted soon, unless newspaper stories are added.
- Stories from printed newspapers: good.
- Stories from newspaper websites: good.
- Stories from newspaper in English: good.
- Stories from newspaper in Hindi: good.
- Stories from newspaper in Devangari: good.
- Stories from newspaper in any language: good.
- Not from newspapers: NOT GOOD. Stories must be from newspapers.
- No more delay please.
- We need stories, written about the school, in newspapers.
- Year, month, day: when did Dainik Jagran print a story about the school?
- Do you have website for this story? http://www.jagran.com/uttar-pradesh/allahabad-city-NNNNNNNN.html
- Year, month, day: when did Amar Ujala print a story about the school?
- Do you have website for this story? http://www.amarujala.com/news/states/uttar-pradesh/allahabad/Allahabad-NNNNN-N/
I can help you with the map, the coordinates, the affiliation number, and other things. But newspapers first, please. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 08:45, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
- Please don not delete it for 1 week. i will give you the newspaper cutting with date and time within 1 week. ((Pratham))
- Hello Pratham, thanks for answering me. :-) I was beginning to think you did not like me! I now believe that the article will not be deleted. Some good people have voted to 'keep' the article, at this page.
WP:Articles_for_deletion/New_R._S._J._Public_School_Senior_Secondary
- You are also a wikipedian now! You can also vote 'keep'. Click on the link above. Click on the 'edit' button at the top. Leave your comment that says 'keep'. It will help if you talk to people, so they know you are serious, and will try hard to improve wikipedia. Some people are frustrated because you said they were stupid. Some people are frustrated because you said they were vandals. Those things are not true. The other people are only trying to help. You should say you are sorry. When you vote to 'keep' the page, that would be a good place to tell everybody your thoughts.
- I am glad you answered me, thanks. I will try to help you with getting the page fixed. Do you want to show a map of streets? Or a satellite map with photographs from high above? Let me know, and I will try to make the map display correctly. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 17:04, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
- p.s. Only wikipedia administrators like Yngvadottir can delete pages. I cannot delete a page. Administrators will keep the page, or delete the page, depending on who has the best logical arguments. Explain that you can help find sources. Explain you are sorry about being rude before. Then, I believe the administrators will 'keep' the page. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 17:04, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
I am sorry for for all the unintentional wrong things i have done. I wont do this again. And i want to show map of streets and satellite map with photographs from top above.
- Pratham, I agree with 74 that it will probably be kept, but it is a close thing. The only sure way to save the article is to add sources. The web site of the manufacturer of the smartboards doesn't count. What does count is newspaper articles about the school. There are a couple of Indian editors participating in the discussion, and I know at least one other whom I could beg for a favor, but you are the one with the best chance of finding articles. If you can get us some URLs, or date, headline, and newspaper name for articles that are not online, we can have other Indian editors help translate the titles or key quotations to convince the editors who can't read those languages. (If there are any other articles in English, even better, but we have only found two so far). It has to be within the week, I am afraid: before the AfD ends. And the sooner the better, to give us time to convince people the school is notable. This is more important than the map or even whether it is public or private; if the article gets deleted after an AfD discussion, it cannot be re-created. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:13, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
- Good work Pratham, your 'keep'-vote was very respectable. Thank you very much. Two more people have voted 'keep' now. The article will almost certainly stay. That is good! So there is no hurry. Even if the worst happens, and the article were deleted, we can always start again, with a new article. To make sure the article is safe, make a copy. Just save a backup copy of the article, onto your own computer. That way we will be safe. In the meanwhile: I have looked at the satellite maps. There are two buildings listed on the maps. I am not sure which building is the correct one to put on the map for the article.
- One building is on Chathang Road, south of Jhusi towards the river (near the Harish Chandra Research Institute). The name of this building is: NRSJPSSS.
- The other building is on highway 2, right in Jhusi itself (between Allahabad Gurukulam School and Central Academy). The name of this building is: NRSJPS.
- Which school is the encyclopedia-article about? Or maybe, is the encyclopedia-article about both of the schools? Is that why there are two websites in the encyclopedia-article? Thanks for improving wikipedia. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:54, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- The article is about both of school but most of information is about the 1st one.--Pratham 10:19, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks, I will see what can be done about maps. Do you have any questions about other things? Like getting legal copyright permission to upload images? 74.192.84.101 (talk) 13:26, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I really want to know how to get copyright for images beacause all the images are taken by me but it still needs permission.--Pratham 15:08, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- Which images are the ones that you photographed yourself, personally? I mean, where you yourself were the person clicking the button on the camera?
- File:NRSJPS Logo.jpg
- File:Logo of New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary.jpg
- File:School Library.jpg
- File:Library of NRSJPS.jpg
- File:Taekwondo classes at NRSJPS.jpg
- File:Taekwondo classes at school.jpg
- File:Top view of NRSJPS.jpg
- File:Top view of New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary.jpg
- File:New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary on Google Earth.jpg
- File:NRSJPS on Google Earth.jpg
- File:NRSJPS pronounciation.ogg
- File:Annual Function 2008-2009.jpg , added later
- File:Plantation at School.jpg , added later
- File:Impressive results of school.jpg , added later
- Thanks for the information, it will help us get the upload-problem figured out. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:10, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Actually all the pictures are taken by me.--Pratham 08:44, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Ummm... all eleven of these? Some of them are not the kind of pictures that are usually taken with a camera. What kind of camera did you use for file#10, which is File:NRSJPS on Google Earth.jpg, now deleted as a copyright violation, because the stuff in file#10 was copyrighted by google corporation? Please look at each file, file#1 then file#2 then file#3 and so on to file#11, and explain how each of the files was created for me. What kind of camera do you have for taking pictures, a Canon, or a Nikon, or something else? 74.192.84.101 (talk) 16:29,
- Actually all the pictures are taken by me.--Pratham 08:44, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- #3 and #4 This is picture of library of school taken by me using Sony Camera.
- #5 and #6 This is picture of taekwondo classes at school taken by me using Sony Camera.
- #7 and #8 This is picture of school taken by me using Sony Camera. — Pratham , roughly Jan ~13th ((some portions of original reply moved to a new talkpage-section by wikiElves))
- The only way you will convince me is if you upload the original states of these images with the EXIF metadata still in place. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Pratham, #5 and #6 are the same as this, which is from the Doon International picture gallery; which school was it really taken at? If you took this picture, why are they using it, and as RHaworth says, why do your versions not have the EXIF metadata from the camera? Yngvadottir (talk) 21:47, 14 January 2014 (UTC) ((some portions of original reply moved to a new talkpage-section by wikiElves))
- I've deleted File:Taekwondo classes at NRSJPS.jpg again. ((image#5 / image#6 in the list)) If you did take the photo ((at NRSJPS)), and the other ((Doon)) school is the one using it ((image#5 / image#6)) inappropriately, please demonstrate it by telling us when you took it ((what date and time did you use your Sony camera?)) and/or uploading the original version, with the metadata. ((more on this below)) Yngvadottir (talk) 22:27, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Why don't we back up a step here, and proceed WP:NICEly. Pratham, what is the exact model of your Sony Camera? Is it the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100? Or maybe the Sony NEX-5 camera? Or some other kind of Sony Camera? Please look at your camera, and then tell us what the wikipedia page for that camera is, or if it does not have a wikipedia page, what the www.sony.com page for your camera is. Once we know that, we can help you figure out how to get EXIF-metadata-stuff about your pictures. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:19, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
taking a picture, of an existing picture
[edit]Pratham, I think you may be confused - a picture of a picture is a derivative work, you cannot claim it as your own work. — Yngvadottir (talk) 21:47, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Does this make sense? See derivative work. When you do this, you are performing WP:COPYVIO, which is bad.
- look at Google Earth on your computer,
- hit PrntScrn to take a screenshot,
- save the contents as myScreenshot.png
- upload myScreenshot.png to wikipedia
- call myScreenshot.png your "own work"
- The imagefile (myScreenshot.png) was created by you, but the map is copyright by Google! You cannot use that imagefile, because it is a picture of Google's map. Instead, you have to use meta:WikiMiniAtlas. That software has free as in freedom map-data. See instructions below.
- You cannot upload GoogleMaps/GoogleEarth/YahooMaps/Mapquest/similar to wikipedia. Google is only gratis map-data, not free as in freedom. Wikipedia will get in big trouble, the lawyers at Google will take Wikipedia to court, if we use Google-copyrighted-proprietary-map-data. The data must be free-as-in- freedom. Understand? 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:19, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
maps
[edit]- #9 and #10 This is a screenshot. How can i add it. — Pratham , roughly Jan ~13th ((moved to a new talkpage-section by wikiElves))
- Pratham, a screenshot is not a photo taken by you, so you can't have #9 or #10. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:47, 14 January 2014 (UTC) ((moved to a new talkpage-section by wikiElves))
- I am working on this problem. There is a tool called meta:WikiMiniAtlas. These satellite maps are from NASA and NGIA (VMAP0) and the United States National Park Service, plus the Open Street Maps project. This data is free as in freedom. We can use it to make a static map. See example at Statue of Liberty, which has a map in the infobox. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:19, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- Can you make a map of both the branches of school and add it to infobox for me.--Pratham 18:40, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
- Yes... as soon as I figure out how. :-) The mapping software is a little complicated. But don't worry, we will get it fixed. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:32, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Can you make a map of both the branches of school and add it to infobox for me.--Pratham 18:40, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
need additional latitude and longitude information
[edit]Pratham, only one building is on the map, the Chathang Road building. Do you have the latitude and the longitude of the second building, the school building by highway 2, in downtown Jhusi? We need to add {{coords}} for that second school building, so it will show up on the map. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:19, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- The coordiantes of school on highway 2 is -- Latitute- 25.426997 N Longitute- 81.911375 E --Pratham 18:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
- Okay thanks. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:32, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
audio pronunciation
[edit]- #11 I want to add the pronunciation of the school name. how can i do this. — Pratham , roughly Jan ~13th ((moved to a new talkpage-section by wikiElves))
- The pronunciation of the school-name in English? Or the pronunciation of the school-name in Hindi? 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:24, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- The pronunciation is in English.--Pratham 18:35, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
- Well, in that case, we probably do not need to add English-pronunciation into en.wikipedia.org (because we assume people reading English wikipedia can already understand English). There is also the website https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/हिन्दी which is the Hindi-language wikipedia. Have you made an article on the schools there, yet? That would be an excellent place to put the English-pronunciation file. Does that sound fun? It is not required, but you can make more pages if you want. It is okay to have an article on the school in more than one language. The more the merrier, as the old saying goes.
- p.s. See also List_of_Wikipedias which includes Tamil https://ta.wikipedia.org/ , Telugu https://te.wikipedia.org/ , Marathi https://mr.wikipedia.org/ , and many others. There is even one in Latin and one in Sanskrit, which is neat. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:32, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Stop: youtube is not wikiReliable, newspapers/teevee/magazines are wikiReliable
[edit]Please stop removing the {{unreliable source}} tag, Youtube is not a reliable source. --Jakob (talk) 16:32, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Pratham, he's right. I found YouTube videos too, but did not add them for that reason. As 74 said above, what we really need is newspaper sources. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
I am having the newspaper cutting. How do i add them?--Pratham 16:59, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Add the following at the end of the sentence the article references: <ref>Author name, "Title of article", ''Newspaper name'', date, page number</ref> Don't translate anything that is not in English. If the newspaper has an article on Wikipedia, enclose the name in brackets like this: ''[[Newspaper name]]''. If you only have the newspaper name in Devanagari, no brackets, no italics; someone else can convert it if we do have an article on it. If the article contains a useful quotation, add it to the end of the reference after the page number, in quotation marks. If it isn't in English, you may want to add a translation after that - put that in a separate set of quotation marks. If all this seems too complicated, start a section on the article talk page and put all the information about each of the newspaper clippings there, without ref tags, and one of the people watching the article will insert it for you. But don't quote the entire text of the articles. Thanks, that is what we really need for this article to be kept and improved. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:25, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- For example, here is an online article. This particular article is not about schools in Jhusi... this is just a newspaper-story, picked at random from the newspaper website, to teach you how to make a newspaper-citation on wikipedia.
'''This sentence contains a truthful fact.'''<ref> [स्थानीय संपादकीय: जम्मू-कश्मीर] (editorialnazariya desk), "शर्मनाक घटनाएं", ''[[Dainik Jagran]]'', Wed 15 Jan 2014 05:48 AM (IST), http://www.jagran.com/editorial/nazariya-embarrassing-events-11011696.html </ref>
- It is okay if the newspaper-cutting you find is printed on paper, rather than online. Either kind of newspaper story is good. Here is what it will look like.
This sentence contains a truthful fact.[1]
References
- ^ [स्थानीय संपादकीय: जम्मू-कश्मीर] (editorialnazariya desk), "शर्मनाक घटनाएं", Dainik Jagran, Wed 15 Jan 2014 05:48 AM (IST), http://www.jagran.com/editorial/nazariya-embarrassing-events-11011696.html
Hope this helps. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:19, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
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GA nominations
[edit]Will you please stop nominating New R. S. J. Public School for Good Article. It's nowhere near ready. See WP:GACR for what a Good Article is supposed to be, but essentially it must be well-written, comprehensive, referenced to reliable sources, neutral, stable, and have images. --Jakob (talk) 13:01, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
I am sorry for that. Will you please tell me what changes should i do so that my article becomes a good article.--Pratham 13:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- I left some comments at Talk:New R. S. J. Public School/GA1, but I'll just copy them here:
- Now that the sourcing is sorted out, expansion would be a good idea. See Whitney High School (Rocklin, California) for a good idea of how much and what types of content a school should have. There are also potential copyvio problems with the images and still some unreferenced material. I will however, say that it is slightly better than it was in the last nomination. --Jakob (talk) 13:07, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, the article is getting better. Slowly but surely. That is the key to success. Jakob, when will be a good time to have another GA review? in one year? Or in two years, maybe? p.s. Yes, about the camera, that is important: an article cannot become GA-status if the pictures are not correct. Pratham, what is the exact model of the Sony camera you use, please?
The model of camera is DSC-S5000--Pratham 04:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC) 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:37, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- @74: It really depends. If someone responds to my post at WT:IN and can follow the suggestions I listed below, it could be ready in one to three months. Certainly articles have been taken from stub to GA in that time. On the other hand, if the sources are more obscure, it could indeed take a year or two. Another possibility is that there is simply no more sourced information out there and the article won't get beyond its current state. But that's unlikely, there's always some more info out there.
--Jakob (talk) 00:41, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- @74: It really depends. If someone responds to my post at WT:IN and can follow the suggestions I listed below, it could be ready in one to three months. Certainly articles have been taken from stub to GA in that time. On the other hand, if the sources are more obscure, it could indeed take a year or two. Another possibility is that there is simply no more sourced information out there and the article won't get beyond its current state. But that's unlikely, there's always some more info out there.
Can you please do these things for me. You can take help from the school's website. If you need more help mail me on-- prathamprakash29@gmail.com --Pratham 13:08, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I neither have access to useful offline sources from the region where the school is located, nor can I read Hindi. Here are some suggestions:
- Take another look through local and regional newspaper archives. Find notable events that the school was involved in and create a history section in the article detailing this (please cite the sources)
- You should be able to find some data on the demographics of the school. Perhaps the local, regional, or national government does such reports.
- Does the school participate in sports competitions with other schools? If so, there is likely to be some data and local news reports on the sports teams.
- As there may be some demographics data, there might also be data on such information as how well students typically tend to score, what percentage graduate, etc. Other sources might discuss the curriculum in-depth (ideally not the school website).
- A reception section could be a good idea. Do local officials and the community in general think it's a good school? A terrible one? Somewhere in between?
- Be sure to cite all this information to the sources you find. Try to use independent sources (not written by the school itself) where possible.
- After you've done all this, the article should be at B-class standards. Try getting a peer review more help on getting it from there to Good Article.
--Jakob (talk) 16:20, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
King Jakob, I am unable to have access to the local newspaper. Can you find a wikipedia editor who lives near Allahabad, so that he can do all the above mentioned thing. I will be thankful to you.--Pratham 16:32, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Pratham, you should realize that becoming a "Good Article" is a very high honour, which we call GA for short. Only 19197 articles are GA-status right now, out of 4426147 total articles. That means that for every one article which achieves GA, there are two hundred regular articles which are not yet ready for GA. For an article to become GA, it must be the best of the best, one hundred times better than the average article. New_R._S._J._Public_School is not ready for GA-status. But of course, that doesn't mean the article is *bad* right now!
- The opposite of GA, is simply normal. Does this make sense? It will take many years of work before the article is GA-status. We should all try to make the article *better* than it was, each time we work on the article. Your article is already not-bad. But it could be better; it could be improved. When there is no more improvement to make, *then* it will become GA-status, usually. Many years of improving, yet, before we get there, though. Not hours, not days. It takes years usually. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:32, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Out of all the places in all the world, only 642 are GA-status right now. Here is the list, so you can see what to strive for. Category:Geography_and_places_good_articles. Hope this helps, thanks for helping improve wikipedia. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:41, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- 74 has given you some wise advice. And King Jakob has asked on your behalf at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India, which I was going to suggest. But you are probably the best person to find information. There is no rush; now that the article has been kept at the AfD, there is no deadline; it can wait until after exams, school holidays, or whatever. (By the way, I will continue to help if I can, but I don't participate in GA or FA, so I can't help with those, sorry.) Yngvadottir (talk) 20:34, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Help
[edit]I want help for the following things which i am unable to do myself.
1. I want to add the coordinates to the 2nd school which is near Highway 2. I am unable to do this because it shows only one coordinate can be added.
2. I want to add the map of school on article page
3. I want to add all those pictures which i uploaded on wikipedia but now they are not showing due to different reasons.
4. I want to add IUPAC (pronunciation) of the school name on the article page.
5. i want to change the no. of classroom to 47. it is showing 14 which is very old. There are 15 classes starting from Nursery to 12. Each class is having an average of 3 to 4 sections.
6. I want that whatever i added about parents-teacher meeting and tours and other should be bought back after doing edit.
Kindly help me in above cases.--Pratham 05:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- The coordinates of the second site can go in the text after the mention of the second site, but won't fit in the infobox or the top of the page display.
- 74 was working on a way to do this, but I don't believe it's at all necessary; that's what coordinates do. You click on them and you get a list of online services to show a map.
- You cannot use copyright-violating pictures. Unless you can demonstrate that you were the original photographer, the pictures will get deleted again. So that is what you need to work on; or, a much better idea, take new pictures and upload them. But pictures off the internet, no. Pictures you actually take with a camera (which includes a Smartphone).
- Pronunciation is not necessary on the English-language Wikipedia for ordinary English words, such as the name of the school. If you make an article about the school on another Wikipedia - for example the Hindi one - then pronunciation would be useful there.
- The number of classrooms is best left out until you can find us a more up to date source. It's really a trivial piece of information, and it probably changes from year to year in most schools. If one of the school websites includes that information somewhere, we could use that as a source, as we are doing for the sports facilities, for example. But since we have a published online source with 14, we need a new source to list any other number. So if you really want to list the number of classrooms and you can't find an up-to-date listing online, perhaps the best way would be to get the school's webmaster to post about the different locations and the number of classrooms in each.
- Parent-teacher meetings are trivial information; school tours could be re-added if either a newspaper or a school website talked specifically about them (for example, whether all classes go on one a year, or if not, how often; and examples of places the tours have gone to). All I see right now is the requirement to carry an umbrella on a school trip. Find a source for the school trips. There is a lot of other information that we could use to make the article better, such as how many students go to a university or college after finishing school, and how many teachers there are, but they all require sources (which again, can include the school's own website, although every additional piece of information that you can find somewhere else helps the article greatly). Yngvadottir (talk) 15:21, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]You can't change sourced content without adding a better source that agrees with your claim as you did here. Wikipedia aims to provide what the sources say, not what the truth is. Sorry, but that's the way it is. If we allowed people to add unverifiable "truth" to articles, then our articles would quickly become filled with opinions and even outright falsehoods. I seriously recommend you read the link above. --Jakob (talk) 12:46, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- But waht the source is saying is old and outdated. Please change it to the new one.--Pratham 14:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia should do our best to say what is true. But do not remove sourced information. Also do not change a sentence which has a source attached, to say something the source does not say. Just because it is old, does not mean it is bad! Wikipedia should show the history of the school, the whole story. It should also show the true facts of today. Like this. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 01:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- 1st version, correct procedure, which says what the source says:
- There are 14 classrooms in the New R. S. J. Public School.[1]
- 2nd version, incorrect procedure, do not change what the source says:
- There are
1447 classrooms in the New R. S. J. Public School.[2]
- There are
- 3rd version, correct procedure, distinguish historical information from current information:
Alternatively, if you know that a fact is incorrect, you can challenge the source. Every source has to satisfy WP:RS, for most facts. What is the source for the 14 classrooms? It is a website.
What kind of website? Here is their information. http://www.publicinfopath.com/about/ They do not give a physical address. They do not give their legal names. They do not say who the owner of the site is. They do not seem to have a professional editorial board to perform fact-checking. They do not seem to be a journalist-website. They also do not seem to be an official government-website. This is probably not a website which satisfies WP:RS at all. You can ask about this question, whether PublicInfoPath is a reliable source, on the article-talkpage. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 01:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
current number of rooms, and the years construction was completed
[edit]I have questions about the current buildings.
- How many classrooms are there at the Chathang branch? Of those classrooms, how many are used for Class 9 through Class 12? When was this branch-building finished being constructed?
- Also, how many classrooms are there at the Vasant Vihar branch? When was this branch-building finished being constructed?
- How many classrooms will there be at the new Jagatpur branch, when it is finished? What level of students will be at Jagatpur, will it also have Class 12 students?
Thanks. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 01:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
1. There are 4 classes in junior section ( Nursery to UKG), 19 in middle ( class 1 to 8) and 24 in senior (class 9 to 12) in Chhatnag branch. Data is of 2012-2013 session. I will tell about 2 and 3 in few weeks
where is Jagatpur?
[edit]Can you tell me where this is, with latitude and longitude, please? I do not see it here, in this article. Neighborhoods_in_Allahabad Is it a nickname? Also, this article needs some help, if you know about the different neighborhoods. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 01:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
request for help
[edit]Pratham, can you please look at this? [4] I am not sure if the old names are correct, or the new names are correct. Thanks. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 01:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Reverting me
[edit]What I did was absolutely right..the co-ordinates are already mentioned above and should not be written again. Please self-revert. Also it seems you have a lot of Conflict of Interest on the topic...Did the school hire you or do you write on your own? Please note that if in future it is found that you are doing paid editing, you will be indefinitely blocked. Thanks, ƬheStrikeΣagle sorties 14:38, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Sir it not a paid editing. I am a student of school and i am having knowledge about school. I am doing it free of cost.
- We all do it free of cost :) Please self-revert..the co-ordinates were already mentioned above. ƬheStrikeΣagle sorties 15:21, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
question 49 aka User_talk:Prathamprakash29#Help
[edit]Will someone please answer my question at 49.--Pratham 14:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- I've responded up there, I hope helpfully. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:24, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- I will also respond. You can use a link to the question, like this — User_talk:Prathamprakash29#Help That is easier for us to find, because we can simply click on it. Hope this helps. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 15:26, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- See also my advice over at #GA_nominations (another section of this page). Pratham, I know you don't have access to the local newspaper, but do you know anyone who does? Maybe you can ask them for some information. And is there any way for you to find demographics information? --Jakob (talk) 15:45, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- I will also respond. You can use a link to the question, like this — User_talk:Prathamprakash29#Help That is easier for us to find, because we can simply click on it. Hope this helps. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 15:26, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi Pratham! I don't think a map is possible, although 74 may find a way to do it when he or she returns to Wikipedia; I see you have also asked on his/her talk page, but I don't know when s/he will be back. As to Hindi Wikipedia, all the Wikipedias are administered separately and they have different rules about some things; I don't know what the Hindi Wikipedia's rules are about creating new articles - whether you need to be autoconfirmed or not. I can't read Hindi, so I can't help there, but I assume you can, because I see you have made two edits there. You've received a welcome template on your user talk page there; I suggest you start the article and see whether the system lets you save it; or use the links on the welcome template to look up their rules for creating new articles and if necessary wait until you are autoconfirmed; or ask the person who welcomed you for assistance. Yngvadottir (talk) 12:24, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- Hi again, thanks for the barnstar! If what you mean by "add Hindi" is that you want to make an article on the Hindi Wikipedia, the answer is as I said just above - you need to do that there. I see you have added it to the requested translations page, and asked two other editors to do it; if you cannot write Hindi yourself, that's probably about all you can do. I'm afraid my Hindi is for all practical purposes zero. Yngvadottir (talk) 12:24, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I want to know how can i link the hindi wiki to the english one after i create a hidi one.
- That's easy; with Wikidata. Tell me when you've created it, and I'll link them. Yngvadottir (talk) 12:23, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
New R. S. J. Public School
[edit]I deleted the Google Maps images you uploaded as the fair use claim was unsustainable given that maps with Wikipedia-compliant licenses are available via OpenStreetMap. I'm not sure what you were getting at with adding this article to the list of featured articles by the way, and note that Ian Rose has reverted it. Nick-D (talk) 10:08, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
But in open street map, the building of school is not showing. What is problem in adding map from google map. I have seen it in page of Google Maps.Also can you add the map for me. I will be thankful to you.
- Please read WP:COPYRIGHT Nick-D (talk) 11:04, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, Pratham, it was deleted from Commons, because Google maps belong to Google. You can't just copy stuff you see online. I'm not familiar with Open Street Map, but that sounds like a useful suggestion. Yngvadottir (talk) 12:23, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- But I provided all the info of th images, also i have seen google map in many wiki pages including the one at Google Maps wiki page.
- The screenshots at Google Maps each have permission that hinges on the fact the article is about Google maps, and the images are necessary to illustrate points made in the text. Nick-D has pointed out that Open Street Map can be used instead in the school article (which is not about what it looks like on Google Maps). I don't think the maps in other articles that you have seen are Google maps. And you do realize that by clicking on the coordinates, a reader can go to a map showing that location in Google Maps or several alternative mapping services? Yngvadottir (talk) 15:14, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- What about this ---- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Argleton_-_Google_Maps_1257569106217.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Google_Maps_%22Mordor%22_easter_egg.png Can you create a one at open street map for me.
- All of these have fair use rationales because there is no free alternative. You can just use OpenStreetMap. If the building isn't there, create an account on OpenStreetMap and add it in. --Jakob (talk) (Please comment on my editor review.) 16:51, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)No, I'm afraid I am not a techie, and that is completely beyond me :-( Argleton is all about the fact that fictitious placename appeared on Google Maps, and the Mordor screenshot is something that is discussed in the article. As Jakec says, those are the kinds of situations that allow fair use: the image is needed to explain what's being talked about. In this case, the school article does not need a map, and certainly not one made by one particular company. 74 was going to make you a map, but we can't assume 74 will come back, unfortunately :-( I suggest you ask at the help desk; perhaps someone who looks there will do it for you. You should explain that you actually need 2 maps because there are 2 school locations. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:55, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- Any way, I don't thnk a map is necessary, you can see a map just by clicking on the globe with n arrow on the top right of the article. Fauzan✆ talk ✉ email 13:14, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)No, I'm afraid I am not a techie, and that is completely beyond me :-( Argleton is all about the fact that fictitious placename appeared on Google Maps, and the Mordor screenshot is something that is discussed in the article. As Jakec says, those are the kinds of situations that allow fair use: the image is needed to explain what's being talked about. In this case, the school article does not need a map, and certainly not one made by one particular company. 74 was going to make you a map, but we can't assume 74 will come back, unfortunately :-( I suggest you ask at the help desk; perhaps someone who looks there will do it for you. You should explain that you actually need 2 maps because there are 2 school locations. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:55, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
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Picture issue again
[edit]Pratham: You uploaded a new version of the taekwondo picture, File:Taekwondo Classes at New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary.jpg, at Commons, claiming once again that it is your own work, but the identical picture appears here in the gallery for a different school. When did you take it and how come it is on their site as a picture of their school? As you know, it has been deleted several times because you have not explained this problem and that makes it appear it is not your photo. I've therefore removed it from the article until you clear up the issue. Yngvadottir (talk) 12:32, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- I know this. The website is using the picture without any permission. They might have got the picture from Internet. I have mailed the school regarding this, but there was no reply. What can I do now??--117.244.108.33 (talk) 13:56, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- I suggest you talk to one of the Commons administrators who deleted it before. (I would suggest PumpkinSky, but he seems to be on a wikibreak.) Tell them when you took the photo, what model of camera you used, and anything else you can think of. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:18, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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