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I have been working on that for hours. What did I do wrong? Everything is factual. Allen High School is not 10-12. Jdh1973 (talk) 00:50, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Your most recent edit appeared very likely to be vandalism (e.g. "...this was more than the other very largest...") so I undid all your edits. I see now that some of your edits do appear to be factual, so I assume that was a mistake. You can go ahead and restore the page to your second to last edit and keep working on the page if you'd like. PopoDameron (talk) 00:54, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

why did you delete my edits about a new dimension of chills? i don't understand the reason

can you explain me? 151.53.209.48 (talk) 21:18, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Your edits appeared to be based on your original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. There were no sources to any of your edits. If you can find references to back up your edits, you can add them and republish your edits. PopoDameron (talk) 11:15, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rajwa Al Saif (August 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:
Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Rajwa Al Saif instead.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Please combine draft and article.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Robert McClenon (talk) 07:29, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Robert McClenon. That doesn't seem very fair to me considering my draft has been waiting for review for about two weeks now, and this new article was just made yesterday. My article is clearly better sourced and contains all that this one does and more, so I think it would make more sense to speedily delete the current article under WP:G6 and move the draft to the main space instead. Can an admin verify if that would be possible? I think the user who created the article had a responsibility to check for existing drafts of the article. PopoDameron (talk) 12:41, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • G6 is for uncontroversial technical and housekeeping moves. Your suggestion does not fall into this category. First, you've been around a while and you know, or should know, that unless you have an editing restriction to the contrary, you don't have to use the AFC process as an established user. You could have created this article from scratch just as Avicenno did. Second, we're not going to delete a perfectly acceptable, if sparse, article and substitute yours because your feelings are somehow hurt that you didn't get into the mainspace first. There isn't an admin here who's going to do that. This doesn't require a history merge. Take your references and content, edit them into the existing article, and move on. Katietalk 14:22, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
    @KrakatoaKatie: All right, I see what you're saying. At the time when I made the article I was definitely less established and didn't know I could just make an article from scratch instead of a draft, and then didn't think I would be allowed to move it from the draft space even when I was sure I demonstrated notability. Anyway, thanks for the explanation, and I'll get to working on the main article now. PopoDameron (talk) 14:37, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
    Thank you, User:KrakatoaKatie, for clarifying my comment, "Please combine article and draft". By the way, I have removed the G7 tag from the draft, but have replaced the content of the draft with a redirect to the article. As Katie said, this was an "ordinary" merge that doesn't require a history merge. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:42, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
    Cool, thanks for that @Robert McClenon, and sorry for not agreeing with your decision initially by the way. PopoDameron (talk) 16:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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re speedy deletion of Builder Lynx

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... the subject is "notable" because it is a small company that competes with several other large ones Sage, Yardi, Builder Software Tools, Lasso, NEWSTAR Constellation and it "describes its subject from a neutral point of view" as described in Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion section G11 Could you please clarify which language on the page you find to be non-neutral? Mucm (talk) 18:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello. Your article lacked reliable sources and was otherwise written like an advertisement for the company. Take a look at WP:RS and WP:PROMO for more information. Thanks, PopoDameron (talk) 18:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Hi PopoDameron, with respect, WP:RS (Reliable Source) and WP:PROMO (Promotional) were not the reasons given for the proposed speedy deletion, it was Speedy Deletion section G11 "Unambiguous Advertising or Promotion". Can you please clarify which wording you found unambiguously promotional, or glowing, or even mildy positive?
Re: Reliable Sources, improving it in that way can be a goal for a page that deserves improvement, not speedy deletion.
Re: Promotional, that page lists the things that Wikipedia IS NOT, such as "Advocacy, propaganda, or recruitment, Opinion pieces, Scandal mongering, Self-promotion, Advertising, marketing or public relations"
Can you clarify which sentences, or words in the deleted page were propaganda, or scandal mongering, or such? Thank you. Mucm (talk) 19:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
WP:PROMO speaks directly to what WP:G11 considers for deletion. The article did not have reliable sources, and otherwise it was written listing the company's virtues, which is what an advert looks like. I personally no longer have access to the article, since it was deleted and I am not an administrator, but maybe @Athaenara can clarify this for you as they are the admin that performed the deletion and can go back to the article to cite specifics if necessary. PopoDameron (talk) 19:51, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Again with respect, I would appreciate understanding how you detect "listing the company's virtues" from a simple sentence listing the name of the company, the date and city it was established, and the industry in which it operates, and the products it offers. This describes the opening paragraph of every page on every organization. Mucm (talk) 20:32, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
As I mentioned, I no longer have access to the article, but I expressly remember it containing more than a single sentence. In any case, I think it would be best for you to wait for @Athaenara to reply since they have access to the article. I would also like to ask you if you have any direct relation to this company, such as being the owner, an employee, or having any other direct link. You would be required to report being paid or compensated in any form to edit per the Wikimedia terms of service. Thanks, PopoDameron (talk) 20:49, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply and I am sorry to take up your time. I'm just confused as to whether you just superficially reviewed it and suggested Speedy Deletion and assumed that the deleting editor would think it through, or Athaenara just superficially reviewed it and assumed that you had thought it through. And yes it contained a few other sentences, all equally neutral to the one I mentioned. Unless you can expressly remember some non-neutral words, perhaps you could withdraw your recommendation for Speedy Deletion. Re Terms of Service, yes I have read it years ago and again recently. I think you'd agree if you dug into them that my ~2 dozen edits going back to 2007 (albeit mostly minor), are good-faith contributions. Cheers. Mucm (talk) 22:15, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
@Mucm: The article could easily have been speedy deleted under CSD A7; there was zero claims of significance made in the article and it in no way meets WP:ORG (or even basic WP:GNG as written). Please don't recreate it in article space. If you feel it somehow does meet WP:ORG, then I strongly suggest you use WP:AfC to create it and have a reviewer move the article if approved for publishing in mainspace.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:24, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments. I, as a user, went looking for an article on this company and Wikipedia said one does not exist, do I want to create one? so I did. I read as many of the guidelines as I could but they seemed endless. I understood that Wikipedia is a work of the community so I was just writing a starting point that could be improved by others, clearly I should have used some sort of draft process first while the notability and references get fleshed out. In any case, I appreciate your suggestions, and it may be so that it could have been deleted by pointing to other reasons, but how can I fairly object to the Speedy Deletion if the actual reason given cannot be backed up -- which I have yet to see -- a word or phrase that is "unambiguous promotion", or "highlighting virtues", or in the least bit glowing, or even positive (or anything but neutral). I simply tried to write this as similarly as I could (but much shorter initially) to other organization pages, e.g. Kobo Inc., neutral information on place of organization, line of business, product, history, etc. I'm just trying to understand where the "unambiguously promotional" words were so I can avoid it in future articles. Mucm (talk) 01:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Tagging pages for deletion

Hello, PopoDameron,

I'm concerned that you are tagging articles with clear notability for deletion. Please be sure you know the different Criteria for Speedy Deletion thoroughly and know when it is appropriate to use them. If you focus in on certain areas, like politics, be sure you sure the relevant notability guidelines well. Tagging pages for deletion is something that should only be done when you have a lot of experience actually editing articles, not just doing counter vandalism work. I just encourage to spend time becoming very familiar with the policy pages devoted to different forms of deletion.

If you ever have questions about deletion or notability, please bring them to the Teahouse where more experienced editors can offer some guidance. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 05:24, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

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Ah all right, thanks. That's a pretty useful feature. PopoDameron (talk) 05:31, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Hi Liz, thanks for the heads up. I see now that I definitely jumped the gun on that one, but I think I have now successfully tagged over a dozen articles for speedy deletion, and I do believe myself to be familiar with the criteria. I'm pretty sure this was my first mistake in this area. I could be forgetting another, but I generally think that my contributions in CSD have been a net positive. I totally could be wrong about that since as you know I'm pretty new here, but in any case I'll definitely be more careful in the future. Thanks again! PopoDameron (talk) 05:31, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Wing Chung

Hello, I undone your revert. I understand what you are saying about a consensus, however, a consensus isn't needed for material not sourced, which over half the list has been. Also, there is a procedure for how lists are suppose to be done, which was not known by myself not seemingly the other person on the talk page. Lists are suppose to have their own pages and be linked to. Presumably this is why the practitioners page was changed to this format as well, this also makes how lists are handled consistent within the page. Please post on the Wing Chun talk page if you have any other concerns on the format that lists within an article should take. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lists_within_articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bverji (talk • contribs) 03:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Would you like to WhatsApp me for sources?

Star Wars nerd give me your mobile number and I will forward you reffrences

@Mihalis52: Heh sorry that's not how it works. If you have reliable sources, check out WP:CITE to learn how to cite them in the article yourself. PopoDameron (talk) 04:46, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Would you like to WhatsApp Me for sources, it’s very rude to remove other peoples stuff with out first massaging then directly I don’t know how to add things WhatsApp Me and we can talk and you can go through things with me? Mihalis52 (talk) 04:52, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@Mihalis52: Sorry I'm not giving you my number bud. If you want, you can read up about how to cite sources and do it yourself, or if not you can post about it on the article's talk page and people will help you out. PopoDameron (talk) 04:55, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Popo Dameron massage me and explain to me how to add and edit please and it would be kinder to massage a source first before deleting what they have contributed Mihalis52 (talk) 04:55, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@Mihalis52: Have you tried reading WP:HOWCITE yet? If you want you can just send me a link to the source here, and I'll cite it for you if it's a reliable source. PopoDameron (talk) 05:10, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

A7 deletion

Educational organizations are exempt from this speedy deletion criterion. (t · c) buidhe 05:22, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks I see, didn't know that. Definitely still think the G11 applies, though. – Popo Dameron talk 06:05, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

My 23Sept edits on Sanskrit

You left a message on my talkpage that my 23 Sept 2022 edit on Sanskrit does not have reliable citation. My edit clearly cites a reputed source ThePrint (<ref name=veda1>[https://theprint.in/india/education/technical-regulator-asks-universities-colleges-to-recognise-admit-students-of-vedic-board/1138372/India Technical regulator asks universities, colleges to recognise & admit students of Vedic board], [[ThePrint]], 22 Sept 2022.</ref> 58.182.190.156 (talk) 21:14, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Just try going to your own link: [1]. It redirects to a seemingly random image. You probably copied the wrong website. – Popo Dameron talk 21:29, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Prague Metro

Do you have any motivation as for why the constructive edits were deemed inconstructive, other than me not being an administrator? This structure hasn't been reverted in Germany, Italy and is used in your native country the US without problems. --Assimo23 (talk) 22:31, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

I left a message on your talk page about that, but the reason I reverted was that part of the definition of a metro is that it is underground, so it is rather redundant to specify that in addition, especially to the short description which should be as concise as possible. Are you acting with any kind of consensus? – Popo Dameron talk 22:33, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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Sorry about that Throast, didn't notice the edit-warring and there didn't seem to be issue from a quick glance at the edit. – Popo Dameron talk 22:55, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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You can try out ChatGPT, now it will know Taliban has re-conquered afg. and the haiti earthquake 2021 8. 14 Jishiboka1 (talk) 22:57, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Even so, you need a reliable source that says that. See WP:NOR for more on that. – Popo Dameron talk 23:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Julius Maddox

agree with your removal of the unofficial maddox lift citing source reliability. given that the lift was performed out of competition without any robust verification measures, do you reckon i'd be able to find a reliable source that recognizes the lifts? or would i be wasting my time. asking for your opinion as a more experienced editor 216.164.249.213 (talk) 08:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree with the other editor who said that there shouldn't be an unofficial records table to begin with. Official records exist for a reason after all. If there were multiple genuinely reliable sources, then maybe I would change my mind about that, but certainly a youtube video wouldn't count. – Popo Dameron talk 17:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Fine-tuning

Hi PopoDameron! Just a quick query; would it not be better to keep fine-tuning (physics) as just fine-tuning? It is generally what one means when referring to the topic, so it would make sense. This seems to be a overall policy on Wikipedia as far as I can tell; the (...) is reserved to whatever the secondary topic is (Say inflation versus inflation (cosmology), or correlation function and correlation function (quantum field theory). OpenScience709 (talk) 12:02, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey User:OpenScience709! I can see why you might believe that the definition of fine-tuning in physics is what one generally means when referring to the topic since you seem to be very involved in that world. I am personally the same but in the world of machine learning, and I can tell you that 'fine-tuning' is a very, very common term in the field and that I don't believe it to be a secondary topic. When I Google fine-tuning now, I see around as many results that have to do with the definition in ML than the one in physics, so I think it's fair to say that both are frequently searched. Let me know if you still disagree though and I'm sure we'll figure something out! – Popo Dameron talk 14:27, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
I mean fair. Let's leave it as is for now. If in a few months one has overwhelmingly more views than another we can reconsider, but I'm also not very fussed. OpenScience709 (talk) 20:38, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Sounds good to me, I was thinking of proposing the same idea. – Popo Dameron talk 20:42, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

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About Me

Hello I see your about me I was wondering how would I add this to my profile? Thanks! Gamazations (talk) 05:11, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Hey, if you mean my user page, you can just go and create the page User:Gamazations and write a bit about yourself there. Hope that helps! PopoDameron ⁠talk 05:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
How do I add stuff like citizenship, gender, linguistics, cerficiation and such as you have in your about me and preferences. Thanks! Gamazations (talk) 05:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Those are called userboxes (or 'userboxen' depending on who you ask). There are thousands of them, and you can even make your own. You can find a gallery with all kinds of boxes at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Galleries, and of course feel free to copy ones you like directly from other people's userpages. PopoDameron ⁠talk 05:36, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the heads up. I am familiarizing myself with wikipedia right now, and I am basically a new user. Also, could you recommend some resources that could help me improve my ability to edit and write articles on wikipedia?
P.S. I like your username :)
I wrote this previously on my talk page before realizing that you wanted me to respond on your talk page, sorry about that.

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FlyingOctopusFish Heheh, thanks.
Yeah, you might find some of the links on the welcome template helpful. I'll drop it on your talk page. PopoDameron ⁠talk 22:50, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
FlyingOctopusFish Oh also if you reply to people outside of their talk page, make sure to tag them using something like {{ping|username}}. PopoDameron ⁠talk 22:55, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
@PopoDameron: Thank you so much. The tagging is similar to the pinging system on discord, so on visual editing it would use "@". I just realized I can only use the @Username: on source edit. Thanks anyways. FlyingOctopusFish (talk) 01:05, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Comma in a compound predicate

Would LaMDA was developed and announced in 2021, but it was not released to the public out of an abundance of caution work? I feel like without a comma, the sentence sounds too wordy and awkward. InfiniteNexus (talk) 23:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

​Yeah, I was considering changing it to that. Would definitely work fine. popodameron ⁠talk 23:48, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

Recruitment: A couple of the coordinators have been inviting editors to become reviewers, via mass-messages to their talk pages. If you know someone who you'd think would make a good reviewer, then a personal invitation to them would be great. Additionally, if there are Wikiprojects that you are active on, then you can add a post there asking participants to join NPP. Please be careful not to double invite folks that have already been invited.

Reviewing tip: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages within their most familiar subjects can use the regularly updated NPP Browser tool.

Reminders:

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Reinforcement learning from human feedback

On 16 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Reinforcement learning from human feedback, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that artificial intelligence models like ChatGPT can learn from human feedback? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Reinforcement learning from human feedback. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Reinforcement learning from human feedback), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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