User talk:Pivbo

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Moved from Talk:Turd life

As I was trying to say, I am legitimately putting together this page to document a very real, recognized sensibility. Some of the links are humorous, but that does not mean that they are not relevant. Thanks. I will update soon. Pivbo 21:11, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

With such an apparently nonsensical subject as this, you will save yourself some grief by drafting the page in your userspace (say, at User:Pivbo/turd life and then readying it with proper sources and editorial style there before trying to get it into the articlespace. Its most recent incarnation lacked any sort of reliable soruces, just a lot of random weblinks. I hope you're not just yanking our chain here... -- nae'blis 21:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For example, can you explain the 'Shit Mayor' link that you're relying on so heavily above? It looks like a passing reference in a local zine, which doesn't reach our standards unfortunately. -- nae'blis 21:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a local "'zine," it's a band from Pittsburgh. The reason this Shit Mayor is relevant, in this context, is because it is a perfect illustration of the bullshit "power" of the internet. Shit Mayor was a joke band that became a weird internet fascination to a thousand people or so, but then when local Pittsburgh musician Girl Talk made it big and talked to Pitchforkmedia.com, he catapulted Shit Mayor into a different realm altogether via well-timed namedropping. Logically, I know you want to lead me to either do a page on Shit Mayor or give up the task altogether. But what I was hoping to do was to have a page that points to the sensibility that made such a strange phenomenon like Shit Mayor possible, which I was trying to further with the absurd references to Time's "Person of the Year." However, given the unfriendly response here, I now see that wikipedia is not the place for any kind of legit endeavor of this sort, despite the fact that there are thousands of asinine daily updates on this website regarding the sexual orientation of video game characters. Quite frankly, the power of "you" is now revealed to be the power of total leveling-down, of either making a safe entry or being censored. Just because you don't "get it" or appreciate it doesn't mean no one else will. And if you think that an entry like this undermines the goals of wikipedia, then maybe this endeavor of wikipedia isn't worth taking.

Perhaps I wasn't clear, I wasn't talking about Shit Mayor being the zine, just that its mention was a passing reference in Pitchforkmedia.com, not what we're hoping for here. I'm sorry for your negative experience here so far, and if you've got reliable sources for the phenomenon that catapulted Shit Mayor to fame, that'd be something different and possibly worth writing about, but "turd life" didn't seem to be the same thing at all. Sorry for any confusion. I suspect there's some sort of article already existing on the phenomenon in general, perhaps Internet meme? -- nae'blis 22:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you elaborate on the BBC appearance? A YouTube video isn't a reliable source, but if you can find the original on bbc.com that'd certainly help... -- nae'blis 22:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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