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2019–20 Slovak Cup moved to draftspace
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Position by round removal
[edit]I have removed the position by round section due to the fact that the football WikiProject had a vote to see if the position by round is needed in a seasonal article and by a vote of 11-10, it was suggested to drop it from all seasonal articles going forward. HawkAussie (talk) 00:56, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Ways to improve 2018–19 ŠK Slovan Bratislava season
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2020–21 Slovan Braistlava season
[edit]Hey Penepi - instead of engaging in an edit war, please follow wikipedia guidelines. You can refer to the wikiproject football club season template here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Club seasons. You are overlinking stadiums in the results by matchday section and it's a section that you will see is not even supposed to be these articles in the first place. Rupert1904 (talk) 15:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Flag templat
[edit]Let's talk about it! What do you think looks awful? DLManiac (talk) 20:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- You left square brackets all over the Draw section; makes no sense and looks really bad. Keep the flags there, there is nothing wrong with this standard. It makes clear what nationality will be represented in the respective draw. – Penepi
- It came from a different edit, which I've fixed. Flags are still there.DLManiac (talk) 20:54, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- Further, I've added a function that should allow accent marks so that for example, both
{{PDCFlag|Karel Sedlacek}}
and{{PDCFlag|Karel Sedláček}}
properly display Karel Sedláček . The accents are one of the reasons that I've created this function to begin with, so that names always get displayed properly even if they aren't entered properly. If you can think of more functionality worth adding, I'd love your feedback. DLManiac (talk) 20:41, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Further, I've added a function that should allow accent marks so that for example, both
- That is nice. Good job. – Penepi
World Darts Championship
[edit]Hello,
Just a heads up. Instead of both of us keep edit warring on the page, and risk getting blocked from editing, let's discuss it here.
1). The Flag(s) for player 2 look better on the left side, rather than the right. I don't see the issue as to why they need to be on the right, but if you prefer them to be on the right, then fine, I shall leave it as it is.
2). Representation/Top Averages.
As for this section, they have always been in separate sections (i.e ==Representation== and ==Top Averages==).
It's much easier to have these in their own section, rather than have them at the bottom of the statistics section, as it is more easier to find, rather than scroll all the way to the bottom.
Let's not keep edit warring the page, and leave it as it is.
Hope this helps. L1amw90 (talk) 15:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi.
- Well, I would suggest we can actually make some changes for the better and not to argue with "it used to be like this". Therefore:
- 1) This is solely a matter of personal, subjective preference. But I am okay with the flags being on the left.
- 2) Here I disagree. It is a statistical data and there is no need to create a separate section for that. What scrolling? It will be on the bottom of the page either way. – Penepi
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[edit]Right, let's discuss this here. First off, I'm not aiming to be rude, and I don't want either of us to get banned so let's stop with the edit war.
I just don't understand why you have a problem with how it looks? Nobody else on the page seems to have any issues with it, so why you?.. As per previous years, the final has always been a separate section, so I don't get why this year has to be different from the rest? As I mentioned in my previous edits, it is much easier to have it as a separate section, rather than have it as one whole section, because to me, it looks confusing with it being mixed in with the main draw.
I apologise earlier for my comment in regards to telling you to "grow up, and get a life".
L1amw90 (talk) 01:06, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- @L1amw90: Hello. Thanks for your message in the first place. I believe it is already irrelevant for this year but of course we can discuss it in order to avoid future disagreements.
- I did not particularly have a problem with your suggested format. I just like mine more for several reasons and apparently no one has a problem with it either.
- But such a discussion is not very fruitful. In essence, neither of us is wrong, it is purely about subjective opinion and I respect yours. It may be a pity that there is no voting on wikipedia on matters like these. But I disagree with the stance that we have to copy everything from previous years and nothing can be changed or improved. Of course, some structure must be preserved, but I don't think we have to copy everything headlessly. This way, the articles would never be improved. – Penepi 11:30, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]2022 World Darts Championship
[edit]Hey, could you have a look at the "schedule" section, as whoever edited it last has completely messed it up for no apparent reason...
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Ways to improve 2022 Slovak Cup Final
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The darts article
[edit]Hi, I wanted to let you know that I reverted your edit because it brought back some MOS:SEAOFBLUE, MOS:OVERLINK etc. violations and removed some instructionary templates at the beggining of the article. At the same time and unfortunately, the TV part got reverted as well; I don't think it's wrong to include it in the article as it's a common pratice on other sports pages. To reach consensus on this, you should create a discussion about it on the talk page, though. Would create one myself, but I'm not a common editor on darts pages and did just some clean-up work on the article due to it being on the main page. With best regards, Saksapoiss (talk) 21:26, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Ways to improve List of ŠK Slovan Bratislava seasons
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[edit]Having recently closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2023 PDC Calendar, I will warn you that your conduct, both when editing the article itself and at the AfD, were completely unacceptable. Firstly, you not only referred to other editors as "idiots", but did so in the mainspace article itself. You may absolutely never, for any reason, use a mainspace article to air your disagreements with any other editor, even if you did do so in a civil fashion, which of course you did not. At the AfD, you continued this type of behavior, with remarks such as I'm sorry if I touched your fragile ego, I hope you can deal with it.
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. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 19:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)- More specifically, these edits: [1] and [2] (revdel'ed). Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 19:28, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- FYI, I've extended the block length to indefinite. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 19:38, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- You've got to be joking, right? Permanent ban for personal attacks, when I've never had a similar problem? A second chance doesn't mean anything to you, does it? Penepi (talk) 19:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Indefinite does not mean infinite. I won't be reviewing your appeals, but if you can show to an uninvolved administrator that you understand what you did wrong, and promise it won't happen again, they might unblock you. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 19:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Thanks for explanation. Of course, I will be more than happy to demonstrate learning from obvious mistakes and also accepting an adequate punishment. For example, the original one-week ban seemed to be quite justified. At the same time, I still dare to point out the actions of the user ItsKesha, who was not punished in any way, while the aforementioned Talk page is full of his personal attacks towards several other users. Penepi (talk) 19:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Indefinite does not mean infinite. I won't be reviewing your appeals, but if you can show to an uninvolved administrator that you understand what you did wrong, and promise it won't happen again, they might unblock you. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 19:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- You've got to be joking, right? Permanent ban for personal attacks, when I've never had a similar problem? A second chance doesn't mean anything to you, does it? Penepi (talk) 19:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- FYI, I've extended the block length to indefinite. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 19:38, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Okay, first of all I am sorry for those attacks, will not repeat. On the other hand, the context is important here and 1 week is way too strict. Even more importantly, the "problematic" user in question - ItsKesha - has repeatedly made personal attacks towards several other users, especially on the Talk page of 2024 PDC World Darts Championship article, yet I don't see he has recevied any penalty whatsoever. In that case I am confident that any block for me is absolutely unauthorized and unfair. Also considering that I have not received any notification regarding my actions, and that I have never had any block or other problems before in the past. You've got to be joking, right? Permanent ban for personal attacks, when I've never had a similar problem? A second chance doesn't mean anything to you, does it?
Decline reason:
Nope. Your edits were so shockingly cruel that I am not willing to give a second chance - certainly not at any point in the near future. Your behaviour has no place on Wikipedia. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 19:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Penepi (talk) 19:32, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Shockingly cruel. Just don't be pathetic, because this is getting ridiculous. Of course, I recognize that objectively it meets the characteristics of personal attacks, but you portray it here as if I threatened someone or used extremist expressions. Absolutely nothing like that happened. Those were ordinary insults, for which I apologize. However, if this is the reason to permanently block an active user, then it is really ridiculous. What is the goal when someone makes a mistake? Not give him any chance to prove that he can learn from it? Very strange. And I point out once again to the same action of the aforementioned user, who did not receive any punishment at all. "You don't half talk some shite." "I did address the content of the post, you know, the one where you talked a load of shite about disruption" "How fragile is your faith in your own argument that you have to make such snide comments?" "Nobody cares about the opinion of you logged out losers" and many more...
So these attacks deserve ABSOLUTELY NO punishment, but my attacks were worthy of a permanent ban? Don't joke, really.
While I am fully aware of my mistake and apologize for it, and I can guarantee that it would never happen again, it is important to see the context. As presented on the Administrators' noticeboard, ItsKesha is an extremely problematic user who frequently and repeatedly edits comments in an arrogant and provocative manner. I simply allowed myself to be provoked. However, that does not mean that I am unteachable and should be permanently banned. Unlike the mentioned user, I have never had a similar problem. It is completely bizarre to me what decision you have reached so far. The logic of decisions like somewhere in a court in North Korea, with all due respect.
Decline reason:
Looking at the diffs above, an indefinite block seems reasonable. Your outrage at this is enough reason to decline your unblock request. PhilKnight (talk) 20:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Of course there is an 'outrage' as I feel the decision is completely disproportionate, wrong and biased. I apologized and I apologize repeatedly, saying that I can guarantee that similar actions will not be repeated. I don't know what more I can do. I've clearly pointed out context, which is important, but it obviously doesn't seem to matter here. I was attacking one particular user, because of his particular actions. That doesn't mean I'm some incorrigible outcast.
Decline reason:
Not only were those comments cruel to whom you directed them to, they are offensive to persons with the conditions you described, which undercuts the welcoming environment for all we strive for here. Given the cruelty of your comments that you term "ordinary insults"(which wouldn't merit less of a block even if they were), it is difficult to trust your guarantees and I think your only pathway forward is the standard offer. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 09:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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Request reason:
I fully understand that it is now difficult for any other administrator to comply with my request, even if he agreed with me, after several of his colleagues have gradually rejected it, but let's try to be more practical: 1. I've never had any problems like this in the many years I've been on Wikipedia. 2. I didn't get any notification even within this dispute, I just got a permanent block. 3. I am not going to downplay my attacks, yes, they were personal attacks, but their nature is being exaggerated, or is not perceived in context at all. That's why I called them "ordinary insults". Nowhere did I use any F-word, N-word, any threats or anything like that. 4. Frustrated by the insidious actions of the individual in question, I insulted him exclusively. Writing that he behaves like a psychopath is supposed to be an insult to who else - psychopaths? In that case, fine. Is the insult calling him "autistic" supposed to be an insult to autistic people? If it's perceived that way, I'm very sorry, because it was never my intention. It was directed exclusively at a specific editor. 5. However, I am most surprised by the absolute inadequacy in relation to the user ItsKesha. I feel as if he himself makes decisions from the position of administrator. He had historically repeated problems with the rules of decent discussion. Even now he insulted others repeatedly and even more frequently than I insulted him. The result is no penalty, while for me an indefinite ban? I really don't feel that the words "you're acting like a psychopath" are (that much) worse than REPEATEDLY telling someone that they write "shite" or that they are a "loser" and MANY MORE. 6. Of course, as I have already written repeatedly, I still regret it. Since I'm a decent adn sensible person, I know how to learn and make sure that something like this never happens again. After all, such a sequence seems logical to me - was my act against the rules in a serious way? OK, you didn't realize it, so you will get a permanent ban if you do it ever again, without any compromise. But not immediately punishing me with a long-term ban for the first offense. 7. standard offer is irrelevant to me from a practical point of view, mainly because of the nature of the article, which I spend the vast majority of my time on wikipedia.
Decline reason:
You clearly aren't recognising the seriousness here. Your insults were far worse than if you had simply used the f-word (assuming that's the more common usage of the f-word). Had you instead immediately realised how serious your grossly offensive personal attacks were, we'd be in a different situation now. But I see no path forward for you to be unblocked in the near future. Yamla (talk) 12:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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Note there was an edit conflict. Penepi subsequently modified their unblock request to include an 8th section: "8. Obviously, I'm not asking you to cancel the penalty as such. To show that I really am aware of my mistake and it's not just empty words, I'm prepared to serve some appropriate punishment and then continue editing in a decent manner. For instance, the original 1-week ban quite well took into account the fact that the 'most problematic' article ends (or the given event ends) within the next week." My decline is based on the previous version. --Yamla (talk) 12:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
Penepi (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I think the problem here is perhaps a somewhat unfortunate form of expression on my part as a non-native English speaker. And this may also partly relate to the perception of given insults. As I already wrote, I am of course aware of the full seriousness of my insults. I tried to explain that they were by no means intended in the way they probably seem to be - God forbid on some group of people and the like. Just to clarify, in my language the reference to autism in spoken language is exclusively synonymous with someone acting like a weirdo. It has absolutely nothing to do with any insult to a specific group of people. The fact that I 'highlighted' insults like the F-/N-word only means that I would never use them, not that I somehow trivialize my own insults or do not recognise their seriousness.
Decline reason:
If I were to give a full account of all the ways in which this unblock request is disingenuous and unacceptable, I would be here for quite some time. Instead, I will restrict myself to the following remarks. * Let us, for the sake of argument, assume that you really do come from a society where everyone, not just louts from the gutter, accepts calling people "autistic" as an insult as a friendly bit of banter. Are you also asking us to believe that they would also take it in the same friendly spirit if the word were not just used in isolation, but incorporated in a whole rant, addressing the person as "mentally stunted", and so on? And are you asking us to believe, when we have read the whole of the attack you wrote, that it was written in a spirit of friendly banter? Even if we give the benefit of the doubt about the use of that one word, the context in which you used it was not "banter": it was a vitriolic attack, and you know it. * You tell us that calling someone autistic to you means describing them as "acting like a weirdo", and you say that not as a confession of guilt but as a defence of your use of the word???? Seriously???? So you think describing people whose mental working is outside the usual range as "weirdoes" is absolutely fine? I can assure you it isn't. I am one of the people you refer to, and I have never found it amusing, entertaining, or "banter" when people have addressed me in such contemptuous terms. * You have given up on ranting and shouting about everyone involved as a way of trying to get unblocked, and shifted to trying to say things which sound more conciliatory, but the underlying fact is that you are still as fixed as you ever were on the notion that you had every right to post an extended personal attack, with the intention of being offensive to the person in question. JBW (talk) 15:51, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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- How in the world do you think that using autistic as an insult, but just towards one editor, is not an insult towards autistic people? I'm amazed that your talk page access hasn't been revoked at this point. --Onorem (talk) 14:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- I should probably just delete your offensive comment, but whatever -- I already stated in my latest comment that in my mother tongue using autistic is not deragotary in any way, it is more of a banter which means someone is acting like an oddball.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Penepi (talk • contribs)
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- I'll leave the request open so that an uninvolved admin may decline it, but I think you've doubled down enough on your insults. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 14:19, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- is open, FWIW. @Isabelle Belato: seeking feedback from blocking admin.
-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:59, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- is closed.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:07, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I've been away this past day due to New Year celebrations. Isabelle Belato 🏴☠️ 17:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Could be a Joe Job, but I'm pretty sure that BRZ8 is a sock of Penepi. Harassing editors in the same AFD but not voting, pretty DUCKish behavior, enough that I blocked BRZ8. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 00:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- I received your email. It is doubtful you have been deliberately ignored. There are an extremely limited number of volunteers to review requests. 331dot (talk) 17:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've also received an email. Admins: see UTRS appeal #90559. Penepi: I've replied to your appeal. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 09:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Per discussion with blocking admin and discussion with Dennis Brown, I am accepting this appeal because you have shown that you understand why you have been blocked. Stick to constructive contributions and don't ever make personal attacks again. Good luck. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 12:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I can promise to behave and follow the rules. Penepi (talk) 13:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)