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August 2020

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“Convicted Murderer”

I feel the term convicted murderer is misleading because while his conviction is an objective fact, his status as a “murderer” is not.

I would argue in favor of changing this line to one of the two following options:

1) steven Avery is a man from Manitowoc County, Wisconsin who was convicted of murder on {x date}

OR

2) steven is best known for his role in the Netflix documentary series “Making a Murderer” which documents the circumstances surrounding and the events leading up to his murder conviction in the Theresa Halbach case.

I feel the second definition is more useful to a broader range of Wikipedia users because most people know him only because of Making a Murderer. It is, in many ways, his most relevant identifying characteristic.

However, at the very least I would request the phrasing be changed from the way it is now because it cannot be claimed objectively that he is a murderer. It can only be objectively claimed that he has been convicted of murder.

I would feel that way regardless of his case’s publicity, but there is SO much disagreement on whether or not he is guilty that I feel this is particularly relevant here. Papaicey (talk) 14:52, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No one is going to read this here. Try here instead. Please stop changing it until you get a consensus on the change. You've been reverted three times. If you keep up your disruptive editing, you may be blocked from editing altogether. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 15:50, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]