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Mistake

I think perhaps you made a mistake. Can you please explain - as you did not leave an edit summary, as you should - your thinking in making this deletion? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_people_from_Ontario&diff=975558014&oldid=975557892

--2604:2000:E010:1100:64C5:E4D6:C957:937A (talk) 06:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I did make a mistake. I’ll add it again now.—Pamzeis (talk) 11:26, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Dare

You deleted my last revert in 'Space Race'. My friend at school dared me to do it. Could you please revert it back and leave it for 10 more minutes so that he can see it? I doesn't believe that I would be brave enough.

Contact if I can't respond: hockeycatcat@gmail.com

Thank you, B. Holding — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.130.33.238 (talk • contribs) 15:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I can’t revert since Wikipedia is not a place for playing around with dares. If your friend would like to view your edit, they can view it here. Please don’t revert it again. Thanks! Pamzeis (talk) 08:53, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

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Christ the King College, Isle of Wight

I pretty sure you didn't mean to revert to this version [1] Meters (talk) 23:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, I didn’t mean to revert it. I was trying to revert the revision with vandalism. Pamzeis (talk) 00:59, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

You are now a rollbacker!

Hi Pamzeis! I've been running into you while patrolling logs and recent changes, and I happened to notice that you don't have the rollback user rights. I hope you don't mind, but I went through your contributions and I noticed that you're quite active in recent changes patrolling and that you consistently view and revert vandalism and bad-faith disruption. I believe that the rollback user rights would be useful for you to have and that you'd make good use of the tools. Instead of having you formally request rollback at WP:PERM, I went ahead and just gave it to you. This user right allows you to quickly revert the edits of other users in cases of blatant vandalism.

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I'm sure you'll do fine with rollback - it's a pretty straight-forward user right and it doesn't drastically change the interface you're used to already. Nonetheless, please don't hesitate to leave me a message on my user talk page if you run into any questions, have any issues or troubles, or if you run into a revision or situation where you're not sure if using rollback is appropriate or not and need my input or advice - I'll be more than happy to help you any time you need it. If you no longer want the rollback user rights, let me know and I'll be happy to remove it for you. Thank you for helping to locate, revert, and remove vandalism from Wikipedia - it's a very thankless job to perform and I want you to know that it doesn't go unnoticed and that I appreciate it very much. Happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:28, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

The one thing I need to note that gave me some reserve from giving you this user right, was the fact that you haven't made a single report to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism to have repeat vandals and disruptive users blocked from editing. However, given your activity, I don't consider this too much of a concern to not give it to you. Just keep in mind that if a user has already been given a final warning, that you should report them there so that an admin can block them. I recommend that you incorporate this habit into your regular patrols. Other than that, in the short amount of time that you've been patrolling recent changes, you've seem to have done well, and for that I thank you! You've made a couple of mistakes, but they're minor, and you admit to those mistakes when asked about them on your user talk page and you fix the issue. That, above all else, makes someone a good patroller. You're doing well, and I think that your future on Wikipedia is very bright. Keep up the great work, and please don't hesitate to reach out to me if I can offer any input, help, assistance, or anything that you need. I'll be happy to lend a hand. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:35, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Revert

Hi! I reverted you here because the vandal you were reverting actually fixed vandalism by another vandal (look at "Pedo Man" in the text). I then roll backed them both and asked for page protection, multiple vandals make life difficult with rollbacks. 11Fox11 (talk) 03:55, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Isaac Kragten (September 23)

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Mustafa raji asfari

You said that Mustafa raji asfari already exists on the Arabic Wikipedia, but the link you gave goes to their Main Page. Can you provide the link to that article in particular instead? Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Jackmcbarn: Sorry, it was a mistake. I've removed the tag now and the message on the User:Mustafa Raji Asfari's talk page. Thanks for notifying me! Pamzeis (talk) 03:13, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Re: Neutral Point of View

Hi Pamzeis,

I added an edit to the Notable People section in Forest Lake, MN. Instead of just taking down my edit, you took down the entire mention of the notable person. First of all, my edit was neutral. People from all over the world, particularly in Europe, do refer to Ryan Young as the voice of a generation. It started as tongue in cheek, but quickly grew into a legitimate statement. The music of Ryan Young is cherished by many people and how they refer to the person who writes these songs isn’t an issue of neutrality. It is how Ryan Young is referred to and is %100 accurate. Secondly, instead of just removing my one sentence edit, you removed the entire mention of Ryan Young. That doesn’t seem fair or right. He most definitely is a notable person from Forest Lake, MN and it is sad that you get to decide what is real and what is not based simply on a hunch of not being neutral. You are downplaying, even basically erasing, a man’s lifelong work and accomplishments. So, please reconsider my validated edit, or at the very least, don’t take away the complete mention of Ryan Young from Forest Lake’s notable people.

Thanks

Original message: Hello, I'm Pamzeis. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Forest Lake, Minnesota seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Pamzeis (talk) 03:21, 5 October 2020 (UTC) Garth99 (talk) 18:33, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Garth99. Firstly, I can't find anything that says that Ryan Young is "the voice of the generation"; as a result, I removed it because saying somebody is "the voice of the generation" without any clarification is promotional and not neutral. If you can find a reliable source that says he is, you may be able to re-add it. Secondly, I was not the one who removed the mention of Ryan Young in Forest Lake, Minnesota, that was Meters. If you would like to leave a message on Meter's talk page, please do so. Thank you. Pamzeis (talk) 00:40, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walter Mosley (US lawyer)

Hi Pamzeis. Would you mind expanding on your closing statement for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walter Mosley (US lawyer)? Specifically, how were !votes weighed, which WP:PAGs apply and how? If it's WP:GNG, based on what sources? If it's an WP:SNG, which SNG? Thanks, Lev!vich 17:15, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

I have the same concerns about your closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cindy Dock; how did you come to the conclusion that the Keep voters had any basis in policies and guidelines? Because as the nominator I don't see how it could have been closed as anything other then Delete. Iffy★Chat -- 17:30, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Per WP:NACD, Close calls and controversial decisions are better left to admins. Though it's WP:NOTAVOTE, in addition to the two above, these AFDs appear to me to be close calls based on the numbers: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stark, Arizona (3-2), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monroe District (Santa Rosa, California) (2-1), and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Night Call (podcast) (3-2). Lev!vich 18:34, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

I have the same concerns about the Cindy Dock closure (as a delete voter); while the vote count leans towards keep, I don't believe the argument strength does. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:02, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Isaac Kragten (October 13)

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October 2020

It might be a good idea not to do any more AFD clerking, in particular of biographies of living persons, until you are more experienced with biographical notability. Either you clumsily resubmitted Draft:Isaac Kragten without intending to do so, in which case you just made a good faith mistake, or you do not understand acting notability, or you do not understand that sometimes it is better to discuss first and resubmit afterwards. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:07, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Isaac Kragten has been accepted

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Relists and NACS

Please read WP:RELISTBIAS and WP:NAC. You should not be relisting discussions for a third time. Praxidicae (talk) 00:24, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Also to add to what Robert McClenon said, I'd strongly encourage you to stop involving yourself in the administrative areas of WP:AFD until you have significantly more experience. There is no lack of closers/admins willing to relist but there is a dearth of participants, so please start by participating in the discussions. Praxidicae (talk) 00:25, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Actually after reviewing your talk page with the multiple messages from experienced editors about your pseudo-admin actions, I am going to formally ask you to refrain from NACs or relists given your apparently lack of communication or understanding. Praxidicae (talk) 00:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Questions for Pamzeis

Hi Pamzeis! You were very welcoming in regards to my contributions, thank you for that! It would be immensely appreciated if you could answer the questions I had about wikipedia below. Firstly, I have been a member of Wikipedia for more than four days and have made significantly more than ten edits. Do you know why I am not an auto confirmed user yet? Secondly, if you have the authority to look and accept drafts, would it be possible if you could quickly look over the articles I wrote! Thank you so much Pamzeis, --Coreykai (talk) 02:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)Corey Kai

Hi Coreykai! Firstly, sorry, I don't know why you haven't been autoconfirmed yet. According to your edit count, you are autoconfirmed but you don't seem to be autoconfirmed on your user rights. I might suggest you ask this at the Teahouse or request to be confirmed at WP:PERM. Secondly, no, I can't review your drafts as I am not part of WP:WikiProject Articles for Creation. Thanks! Pamzeis (talk) 03:18, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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A question about reverting my edit

Hey, I saw you reverted my merging of Brooklyn Nelson's theatre credits table for Frozen? I don't see why it shouldn't be merged - I have seen many theatre actors whose articles have merged title names in their credits, eg: Ben Platt, Jonathan Groff, Samantha Barks. DaveZombee (talk) 09:20, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi DaveZombee. I reverted it per WP:FILMOGRAPHY though I'm not sure if it applies to Theatre credits. If all other theatre actors/actresses have their cells merged, then feel free to re-add it. This seems okay per WP:Some stuff exists for a reason. Thanks. Pamzeis (talk) 11:54, 11 December 2020 (UTC)