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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sovereignty of God (April 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by A412 was:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This article reads like original research, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. Please find coverage from reliable secondary sources on the topic.

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A412 (Talk • C) 21:51, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! PTSaputo, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! A412 (Talk • C) 21:51, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sovereignty of God (May 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Seraphim System was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I see improperly used quotes one right after another and citation to the Bible that should be placed in the context of secondary source analysis that shows the verses application to this doctrine in secondary sources (in other words, cite the analysis from a tertiary source or commentary that applies the verse to this doctrine, and then cite the verse to avoid WP:OR)

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Seraphim System ^(talk) 10:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sovereignty of God (June 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DrStrauss was:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

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DrStrauss talk

12:22, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

@DrStrauss: I am hoping you are still planning on helping me by providing some more detailed comments per our discussions on 6/30.PTSaputo (talk) 18:34, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@PTSaputo: yep, what exactly is your question, just so I can give an equally precise answer? DrStrauss talk

@DrStrauss:As a lawyer, I tend to write in a manner that probably does sound like an essay. Can you help me to understand what I might change to provide a better encyclopedic entry (or provide a specific example of the essay style in the article)?

I do not follow the NPOV comment. The article is intended to provide content on the Christian concept of Sovereignty which is a very significant subject in Christianity that underlies the Calvinist-Arminian debate, free will vs. determinism and many other debates. I was amazed to find no entry in Wikipedia for this topic. If the NPOV comment relates to the Christian viewpoint, maybe I need to make it clearer that the article is not attempting to prove God's existence or to prove that God is sovereign? I guess I do not know what came across as an NPOV issue.

As to the reliable source comment, most all of the content is directly backed up with references to well-recognized Christian authors. Can you provide a little more info on this comment?
PTSaputo (talk) 19:12, 3 July 2017 (UTC) 18:38, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@PTSaputo: I am familiar with this area too, I'll give it a copyedit tomorrow morning and leave you some further comments here. DrStrauss talk 19:19, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@DrStrauss:Awesome. And I am glad that you are you familiar with the issues.PTSaputo (talk) 19:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC) @PTSaputo: have you considered putting in Maimondes and the Via Negativa? DrStrauss 09:52, 4 July 2017 (UTC) talk[reply]
@DrStrauss:Wow! His arguments are brilliant. I had not considered how claims of sovereignty run headlong into his reasonings. I revised the Limitations section of the draft article. Let me know what you think.

@DrStrauss:I would still really appreciate further comments as you mentioned above.PTSaputo (talk) 05:13, 11 July 2017 (UTC).[reply]

PTSaputo (talk) 17:43, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Sovereignty of God has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Sovereignty of God. Thanks! SwisterTwister talk 03:36, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Sovereignty of God has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Sovereignty of God. Thanks! SwisterTwister talk 05:05, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:Sovereignty of God

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Removed deletion and explained reasons for doing so in the edit summary. I would propose further edits if more specific comments can be provided to identifiable portions of the article. PTSaputo (talk) 03:27, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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