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Victor Harbo(u)r

Regarding this edit and comment: The station at Victor Harbor is spelt Victor Harbour (the SAR used the spelling Harbour).

• Thanks for the chuckle.
• Yeah, that doesn't really surprise me. (Amuses me, but doesn't surprise me.)
• How on earth did you find that gem of information! (And where?)

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I have copies of the plans of the buildings and yard layout from the old SAR map room at Adelaide Station (printed off for me by the obliging ANR/STA staff in the 80s). The prints are ammonia prints from the original blue prints. I also have photos of the station and signs from that period. Ozdaren (talk) 14:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow! (I'm jealous!) That makes "here's one I prepared earlier" seem tame ...

You have to wonder why they chose to spell it differently, don't you. (It reminds me of the story of the naming of the rank of the most senior RAF officer, (Marshal of the Royal Air Force#Origins), except in this case there was no monarch available to suggest common sense prevail ... )

Are you planning to scan any of that stuff? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Broken Coord

Hi. In order to clean up Category:Coord template needing repair, would you mind if I changed an instances of {{coord}} in User talk:Ozdaren/personal sandbox? "{{coord|34|54|57|S|138|36|07|E |scale:2000_region:AU |display=inline,title |Adelaide Rowing Club}}" needs to be "{{coord|...|name=Adelaide Rowing Club}}". (Actually, if you're going to put it on Adelaide Rowing Club, you don't need to specify the name of the location; it'll automatically take that of the page name.)
—WWoods (talk) 14:53, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Mt Barker

Noticed your edit in my watchlist, but haven't examined it. I think there's a Mt Barker, and a Mt Barker Junction. Then, there's also the place where SteamRanger are located. Lots of choice! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's more than "preserved" - it's actively used by the SteamRanger people. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Certainly not 'deserted'. Ozdaren (talk) 00:54, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Steamtown

Howdy - thanks for tweaking the SPM page - I am thinking about splitting the article - one to focus on Steamtown as an operation, and another as the Steamtown heritage rail centre. They are two separate entities, with distinctly different purposes. would appreciate any comment? thanks Sulzer55 (talk) 14:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)t

Hi OzDaren - Not sure how to reply to "Talk" so I am using this method.

1) Splitting "Steamtown, Peterborough Railway Preservation Society Inc." from "Steamtown Heritage Rail Centre" is probably a good Idea - but disambiguation needs to be used to prevent confusion (eg the Hats I have put in place on both pages and my use of "Society" in place of "organisation" and "Steamtown" in the Preservation Society sections).

2) There is still a lot of animosity from the Preservation people towards the Rail Centre people. You are displaying your bias in the choice of words used and your removal of any edits that attempt to remove that bias (not the base information). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a soap box and therefore all statements should be unbiased and factual. I have learnt a lot of what happened all those years ago and what is happening today. The Society was willing to forgo Peterborough in the hope of chasing the tourist, the current management is developing the centre to attract the tourist to Peterborough. Which is correct? Who knows - I am not here to discuss that. My edits were to try and remove some of this animosity from the postings, to get back to an unemotional factual reportage of the events surrounding the 2 entities. Your blanket removal of all my edits shows that you consider the 2 pages as your own property (especially as you even removed the hats!). The fact that your father was President of the Society at the time of disbandment (?) does not qualify you as an unbiased source of information - only a good source of information from "that side" of the argument. It is time to let the animosity go - let the people working at the Steamtown Heritage Rail Centre get on with their work; which is to attract tourists to Peterborough. Please stop attempting to sabotage any effort to defuse the situation especially in these Wikipedia pages.

Mangoeater2 (talk) 03:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

hey OzDarren - have responded to comments by above - see his page Sulzer55 (talk) 02:49, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Castletown Shoppingworld

Hi you sent me a message some time back saying that you reverted additions to Castletown Shoppingworld, i just wanted to know why you sent me that message as i never made any additions to this page that where in copyright to the Bully, all i did was remove City of Thuringowa from a cat as the city of Thuringowa and Townsville merged. Thanks

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America

I'm not denying that it may be the most general use for the term. I'm just pointing out that it is not the only use for it (nor the original one). You stated: "America as the used in the English language ". That was not correct. Salut, --IANVS (talk) 13:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Ozdaren. Regarding your recent good faith efforts to improve the America dab page, you are of course correct that most English speakers use the word to refer to the United States. However, pretty much every wikipedia page even tangentially related to the words America or American are the subject of fierce debate with many (mostly Latin American, I suspect) users objecting to the common English usage in favor of referring to all of the Western Hemisphere as America. There are hours worth of reading on these talk pages... and mostly they are currently in a state of armed neutrality that will likely cause even those who agree with you to revert any long-standing compromises. Not saying you shouldn't wander into the debates, just a friendly warning that this is in fact hotly debated... Cheers! --CAVincent (talk) 05:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah, the order on the America dab page may be partly my fault. Last year I proposed we stop fighting over the primary meaning of America and just list "the Americas" and "the United States" in alphabetical order. Not my finest hour, but I think it cut down on the edit warring for awhile. As you say, c'est la guerre. --CAVincent (talk) 13:22, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

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Touch football (rugby league)

Thanks for editing Touch football (rugby league). Your addition of a link was reverted as it wasn't actually for touch football. Ozdaren (talk) 11:19, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Ozdaren, I don't understand? I play kickit touch football. it is a form of touch football in Brisbane that allows you to kick the ball. Wiki shows "Touch Football(rugby league)" this game is more similar to the origins of touch football as kickit touch football is non-contact rugby league. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Touchfooty (talk • contribs) 12:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey Ozdaren - thanks for your comments - they are greatly appreciated. Other than sadness at the whole mess that has unfolded over the years, I have no ill-feelings toward STP or SHRC. Sadly, the outcome for Steamtown has been as identified in the early 1980s. Either way, it is a situation where many have lost, and almost no-one has won. Thanks again Sulzer55 (talk) 11:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

GetUp!

Hi Daren! Thanks for your comment about whether Getup is non-partisan or not. Various dictionaries define this word as meaning free from party affiliation. It does not mean that the organisation has no political leanings one way or the other. I believe, based on several years of observation, that Getup is genuinely non-partisan, in that it pursues particular outcomes regardless of whether a party has them in its platform or not.

Obviously there is some overlap with party platforms, while at the same time there is strong criticism of particular actions of governments, regardless of party affiliation. For example, while Getup strongly opposed the Howard gov't policy on asylum seekers, it opposes the Victorian Labor govt's logging of Brown Mountain with equal passion. Best wishes, Melba1 (talk) 15:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

GetUp! as a partisan organisation?

Thanks for your reply, Daren. I'm a bit confused as to your argument: you seem to equate "partisan" with "left wing". My understanding is that 'partisan' can apply to parties of either the left or the right. Certainly Getup is left-leaning, if that can be construed to mean socially progressive, but it is certainly not socialist, which is the usual interpretation of the term "left wing". Melba1 (talk) 04:52, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

NSW Lacrosse

Yep such a shame it died out there. It seems that it could so easily have happened in the other states as well. I met with Josh Beagley on the weekend, he is hoping to reinvigorate lacrosse over in Sydney. They might even look at doing some form of school competition there. I think it's crucial if we want lacrosse to grow in Australia, it needs a strong presence in our most populous city!! Now how to go about it!!!!! Lukeoz (talk) 23:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Getting a good system back running in Sydney would be a mammoth task ... although there are heaps of people from which to draw new players, it is almost too many, and the distance to travel for a city-wide competition would be immense ... I think they need to look at one region within Sydney and start from there. Or maybe even start at a smaller city, like Gosford! It would be worth looking at a different approach and style of competition that what is established in SA, Vic and WA. But it would need some altruistic people to get it happening. Good luck to them! Lukeoz (talk) 05:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

E&WS a.k.a. SA Water

Regarding your edit and comments

• E&WS hasn't existed for 20 years - Oh dear! Showing my age, am I!! OK: "SA Water"
  • By-the-way: "SA Water was established by the proclamation of the South Australian Water Corporation Act 1994 on 1 July 1995."
• also the buildings have been demolished. - Are you sure? They were still there in 2006, and Google Earth still shows them there in the triangle between East Terrace Thebarton, the railway line and the Police Barracks ...

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:25, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Almost 20 years (what's 5 years amongst friends.. sorry). Yes sadly they have completely demolished the buildings including some very substantial stone ones, the lawn bowls club etc. It's currently a pile of rubble and churned up earth as of 5am last Friday (I saw it when I was on my to West Lakes to coach rowing). Google maps doesn't even show the tramline down Port Rd. Ozdaren (talk) 13:16, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Wow! That recent!! I guess I'll go take some photos this weekend. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:20, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

University Oval, Adelaide and Park 12

Hi! Discussion has moved to Talk:University Oval (Park 12), Adelaide#Relisted move discussion
Your opinion is solicited. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! The removal was not deliberate - I was trying to fit too much into one sentence and "lost" that bit. Very sloppy of me. Thanks for putting it back. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 05:58, 4 December 2010 (UTC)