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Linking to draftspace

Please dont link to draftspace from mainspace. If you realy want, you can point the link to the intended destination once the draft is promoted to an article. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:04, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Open Education Awards for Excellence merged

An draft you recently created, Open Education Awards for Excellence, does not have enough sources and citations as written as a separate article. I have merged the complete contents tot Draft:Open Education Global, the organization that gives the award. . It offers the only chance of saving thecontent. DGG ( talk ) 14:37, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG:

OpenAccessIsTheWay (talk) 18:42, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear DGG,

First of all, thank you for your message. I’ve read with interest your personal page, and I must compliment you for your story and for your commitment and dedication to Wikipedia’s cause.

As a fresh (would-be) Wikipedia contributor, however, who isn’t “receiving or expect to receive compensation” for my edits at all, please let me confess that I’ve felt quite frightened and mortified in reading << This is your only warning; if you use Wikipedia for soapboxing, promotion or advertising again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice >>.

That “again”, as a matter of fact, means automatically assuming that my contributions so far have been “promotion or advertising”. I must say that it felt disheartening (and quite hurtful), and I think this could honestly nip in the bud any enthusiasm of any potential new community member.

I perfectly get that all you are doing is just trying to prevent any abuse, and I’m of course 100% with you on this. I just wanted to sincerely share my thoughts and feelings with you.

This said, I respectfully wait for further instructions before making any new edit.

OpenAccessIsTheWay (talk) 09:55, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG:

Dear DGG,

Five days have passed after I politely answered to your message and kindly asked for further instructions, but I haven't received any yet. I therefore hope I won't do wrong if I'll feel free to carry on with my unbiased and careful edits, until further notice by you or other fellow contributors!

OpenAccessIsTheWay (talk) 17:57, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is so much paid advocacy in WP, that even good faith editors tend to write in a promotional manner, matching what they see here. So it is reasonable that we ask people, especially when the user name seems to match the topic they are writing about. Unless there's reason otherwise, we assume good faith when they answer. -- see WP:AGF. The idea is to strike a balance between forcing those who need to disclose to disclose, and not offending those who don't need to. As you can tell from the form, we don't really have it right.

In any case we no longer accept articles written in a promotional manner, though it will be many years until we've removed or rewritten them. There are over 500 articles submitted each day, and relatively few people screening them, so it takes a while to give a proper answer; but I at least try to give a full answer, even if it takes longer. I am currently dealingwith several dozen articles in need of improvement, and I have a list of hundreds more to work on. And I'm just a volunteer.

If you want to edit further, put on the talk page of the relevant article a note saying you have no conflict of interest. That will be enough.

I would very strongly urge you to edit Draft:Open Education Global rather than making a separate page for the award . One strongarticle is better than two weak ones, and is much more likely to survive. DGG ( talk ) 21:13, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG:

Dear DGG,

Thank you very much for taking the time to answer me. I can see that there really is a huge amount of work happening behind the scenes in WP, and since it’s done on a volunteer basis, that’s even more incredible! Once again, kudos to all you editors for your dedication and selfless work. Thank you for your advice: I'll treasure it and do my best to put it to good use.

Best regards,

OpenAccessIsTheWay (talk) 19:21, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Creating articles

Hi, if you're going to be creating articles, you should read the notability guidelines before you start so that you don't spend a bunch of time on something that doesn't end up passing the notability criteria. If you're creating them about brands/companies/etc, WP:GROUP also has some information. Natureium (talk) 00:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Natureium:

Dear Natureium,

Thank you for your kind suggestions. Just as I said to DGG (see above), I’ll do my best to put them to good use. I’ve carefully read the notability guidelines, and I’ll continue not to take into consideration for WP any brands/companies/etc that don't pass the notability criteria!

As for yesterday, I really hope you didn’t mistake my undoing of your revision neither as a lack of respect, nor as a challenge towards an editor like you that so obviously has a much greater seniority than me. I’m still learning the basics of WP, and undoing your revision was the only way I knew to be able to place my comment right next to yours.

BTW, just an hour later a Wikipedian with an even greater seniority created precisely that article (which I was planning to write as a draft myself) by promoting it from Drafts to Main Page. Thank you @Bluerasberry:!

Long story short, I hope we’re still “friends” then :-)

OpenAccessIsTheWay (talk) 23:12, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think everything is cool. Good initiative OAITW and thanks for patrolling Natureium. I was also patrolling that article and when I saw the need for the Africa ArXiv article, I went ahead and published a draft I had in my sandbox which I had started a month ago. OAITW, I think some of those other preprint servers may be notable too. The usual criteria is multiple reviews in third-party publications.

Thanks all, and especially welcome to OA. I hope you like it here and stick around. Let me know if you need anything and I expect Natureium and anyone else you meet would be open to reviewing any of your content if you have questions. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:31, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DarkGlow:

Dear DarkGlow,

Thank you for adding the “Notability” tag to the page “Schmettau (noble family)” that I created by translating a random article from the German Wikipedia.

Following Natureium's suggestions (see above) I had actually just reviewed the notability guidelines, but I didn’t realize that they also applied to pages that already existed in the Main Space of a different language Wikipedia.

Sometimes, when I’ve got some spare time and feel “inspired” enough — even if the topics I’m most passionate about are mainly about Open Access and its surroundings — I try to give my little contribution by also adding small details to random Wikipedia pages. Or, since I love languages, by translating articles (or at least parts of them) from one language to another.

Any suggestions/guidelines on how to better understand if the articles that I’d like to translate would still be worthy enough to be in the destination language's Main Page are therefore more than welcome. And, of course, feel more than free to propose for deletion or to delete the “Schmettau (noble family)” page!

Best regards,

OpenAccessIsTheWay (talk) 21:43, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thank you for asking about the tag – any article on the English wikipedia, regardless of existence on other global Wikipedias, must pass WP:GNG. As it's a BLP article, every statement made on the article needs a reliable citation that verifies the information. Having significant coverage through these reliable citations will also prove that the subject is notable. Let me know if you have any other questions

– – DarkGlow (✉) 21:47, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Qeios has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Qeios. Thanks! Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 23:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Open Education Global (January 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Liance was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Vast majority of references are selfpubs or press releases.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Open Education Global and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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-Liance^{talk/contribs} 21:32, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, OpenAccessIsTheWay! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 21:32, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Villa Medici del Vascello

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 14:05, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Open Simulation

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 01:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Qeios (May 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 19:25, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Open Simulation

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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:47, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Qeios

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:02, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Qeios

Hello, OpenAccessIsTheWay. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Qeios".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:41, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]