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Regarding your revert on "Herve Jaubert"

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Hello Ohsin,

I highly disagree with your constant reverts on the article on Herve Jaubert. His books are clearly islamophobic, which is very important when it comes to the Latifa case, which is why it is of extreme importance to mention this in the article. Your argument about neutral viewpoint in this case is completely invalid and therefore I reverted your changes.

Have a good day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:E914:6C00:D1E7:9CB9:DC3C:4B03 (talk) 22:54, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits disregard WP:NPOV,WP:SYNTH and WP:BLP instead of interpreting writings cite an independent reliable source WP:RS. Thankyou Ohsin 03:54, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your revert on "Polar_Satellite_Launch_Vehicle"

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Hey Ohsin,

Hope you know what wikipedia is all about. Even a naive won't add dead wikilink what you have done. CartoSat-2A/2B/2C are all subcategories of CartoSat-2. If a page for subproject doesn't exist it can be directed to its parent project. Please refrain from doing unethical editing.

Gaurav
Replied at User_talk:Gaurav_Pruthi#Regarding_the_reverts_on_PSLV_article Ohsin (talk) 10:40, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

hlo Itsjagbir (talk) 07:53, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your message on - "citing repeatedly from single domain"

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Hi Oshin, I am not here to Spam Wikipedia. That is not my intent. GeospatialWorld.net produces authentic news and information on satellite industry & geospatial industry. Like in the case of PSLV, we have the quote from the ISRO chief himself on the privatization of the program by 2020. We wanted this information to be available on the wiki.

When it comes to certain industry-related terms, that are highly niche like geospatial, we specialise in that. And such kind of information is missing on Wikipedia, and my aim is to get this information updated. Like acquisitions by companies, change of business information, new product or offering from big companies, the latest information from multi-lateral organizations etc. This where you will see my contributions to DigitalGlobe, MacDonald, Dettwiler and Associates, Luciad, International Civil Aviation Organization etc.

I would be happy to add such information, without citing geospatialworld.net, but then someone will ask for them, what should we do in such a case?

@harsham (talk) 06:35, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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GSLV

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The information that you added in the modifications to the rocket after Sub-orbital seems to be too tech oriented for an average reader. So I have made the following changes. If you feel they are not appropriate please go ahead and undo.

Composite Payload fairing shape changed to Ogive. Nosecones shape on S200 strap on motors changed from straight to slanted ones. Grain configuration of S200 Motor Head End Segment changed to reduce the dynamic pressure in transonic regime, validated through third S200 static test ST03 on 14th June 2015. Closure of inter tank structure in C25 cryogenic stage.

Also you seem to have removed the reference to the planned manned mission stating that this is not approved. But since there is a detailed description of the CARE module we need to have some outcome on why it was tested. A rewording might be more appropriate than removal which I have done --Hagennos ❯❯❯ Talk 14:39, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Hagennos: That detail on S200 is important as it resulted into S200 with lesser propellant load than earlier and backs the required third static test, i'll add a link to some grain configuration article if it is there and add it into S200 section. CARE payload on LVM3X was not the primary objective of that flight, which was pressing need to validate LV configuration and characterize it as they couldn't wait for C25 development, it was taking too long so they went for suborbital flight and this is how payload opportunity came to be and they decided to prepare CARE module. But given it was such an important two in one mission and first one with clear HSP angle I guess that needs its mention so to that extent it is okay. Thanks for tidying it all up Ohsin (talk) 15:35, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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March 2018

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Information icon Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum. Thank you. MPS1992 (talk) 23:44, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MPS1992 The Guardian is a respected source. Removing entire content is very inconsiderate perhaps rewording was required. Ohsin (talk) 03:59, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
MPS1992 I missed few important references from same source. You can discuss it in relevant Talk page. Ohsin (talk) 05:31, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2018

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Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Latifa bint Mohammed Al Maktoum (II). Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. your edit summary "Matter ongoing needs visibility." is entirely inadequate to justify edit-warring this material about a non-notable individual, who has not been charged with anything, back into the article. See also Wikipedia:Edit warring. MPS1992 (talk) 23:58, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@MPS1992 Please read the references before going off! He is not only under detention in Luxembourg awaiting hearing but also could end up extradited to UAE they issued a Interpol Notice on him it is all in reference added. Individuals association with case makes him notable as he played a key role. Ohsin (talk) 01:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Descriptions with effects that do not promote collegial editing

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Hello, just to let you know, I find describing me as "ham-handed" to be rather offensive, although I will WP:AGF that was not your intention. Irregardless, please could you avoid such phrasing. Thank you. MPS1992 (talk) 22:49, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Refrain from removing well sourced content especially direct quotes. Some effort in seeking out alternate sources or appropriately tagging the content in question is a better approach. You removed factual, well cited and critical content under the guise of WP:BLP repeatedly from two pages in past without any prior discussion and failed to address any inquiries. Ohsin (talk) 23:24, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
On the contrary, I have replied to you multiple times on my own talk page now, as well as on the talk page of the article, and now here as well. MPS1992 (talk) 01:21, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Only after being called out several times on your misuse of WP:BLP to censor out factual information. Ohsin (talk) 02:02, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ohsin, calling other Wikipedia editors names such as "ham-handed" is not constructive WP:PA. It takes a lot of dedication to edit Wikipedia, and such conduct, again, is not constructive. I am now a witness to this incident and I would like you to know that I don't approve of it. I respectfully remind you of WP:AGF and WP:OWN. Explorium (talk) 02:23, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In case of crude and clumsy edits one would assume WP:AGF but doing it repeatedly and removing important facts along references under the guise of WP:BLP is what really prevents constructive and collaborative editing WP:GAME, disregards constructive efforts of other editors and amounts to Disruptive_editing. I would have appreciated if such edits considered WP:AGF and changed language rather than remove content ALONG citations from reputed sources Verifiability#Reliable_sources just to make a WP:POINT and then hypocritically complain about poor references . Ohsin 03:18, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I undid your revert of my edit

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Ohsin... I added a factual event and duly provided a reliable source. It's up to the reader to verify the fact and the source, and form an informed opinion based on analyzing the facts presented. I would genuinely appreciate if you would discuss my edits with me before reverting them. Explorium (talk) 02:51, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Explorium: Matter of donations to Interpol is a fact but it is unrelated to event at hand being more than an year old. Including it seems like a suggestion towards biased attitude of Intepol due to receiving donations from UAE and is not aligning with WP:NPOV and amounts to WP:HOAX. May I urge you to add this out of place factoid to Interpol_notice#Controversy instead with neutral language. Also when reverting edits please add reasoning that at least tries to explain rational behind them. Not communicating or only communicating to single editor may unnecessarily lead to Wikipedia:Edit warring and leaves other editors of the page clueless who are not following or aware of discussions such as this. Ohsin 03:18, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on File:Latifa Al Maktoum 1985.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a non-free file with a clearly invalid licensing tag; or it otherwise fails some part of the non-free content criteria. If you can find a valid tag that expresses why the file can be used under the fair use guidelines, please replace the current tag with that tag. If no such tag exists, please add the {{Non-free fair use}} tag, along with a brief explanation of why this constitutes fair use of the file. If the file has been deleted, you can re-upload it, but please ensure you place the correct tag on it.

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I am unsure of the picture policy. Has a consensus been reached to remove Latifa's picture? Explorium (talk) 04:23, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. MPS1992 (talk) 08:12, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, MPS1992. Can you think of a better way to secure a usable picture of Latifa and place it in the article. This will help the reader separate her from her 2 other half-sisters, one of whom is suddenly highlighted in Arab media to confuse the general public.Explorium (talk) 19:53, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You could ask Detained in Dubai who owns the copyright to the video of her that they posted. MPS1992 (talk) 19:56, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Explorium: If you can have few screenshots or other images from them under a free license it would be usable. Otherwise it is hard to give a rationale that fair use image can not be created. Ohsin 21:00, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Latifa

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Hi Oshin, couple of weeks ago I created in the French Wikipedia a disambiguation page about princess Latifa al Maktoum, seeing that Dubai authorities were using the ambiguity in order to try to mask her disappearing. Such a page doesn't exist in WP:en, so I have just tried a translation [[1]]. Could you please check my draft (do not hesitate to improve my English!) before I publish it? Best, JohnNewton8 (talk) 18:54, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JohnNewton8: Thank you for drafting it! Would be really helpful in settling confusion, I have added few cites and made minor changes in language. Ohsin 01:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks! Moved to article Latifa Al Maktoum.  Done. I'll improve the wikifr with your new cites too. JohnNewton8 (talk) 05:25, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Chandryaan 2 edit

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Hi

I saw you reverted my edit citing no source, It's called common sense. Specification of the bus doesn't change overnight just like fuel of rocket. The satellite is under 3000kg and as per I-2K page all satellite under 3000kg falls under 12k bus hence the name I2000 -India 2000.

I don't know why moderation is source based which shouldn't always be the case. I can understand citing a source for new information is paramount but if that information is readily used in Wikipedia it shouldn't warrant multiple citations, especially when you have a dedicated page for this.

Anyway, you are the boss! Feel free to go through various India Satellite program under 3000kg and check which bus they opt for. Here refer this - Template:Indian spacecraft

Regards

P.s- Even I-2K page is not well written or had full info.

Shashpant (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:51, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is not only speculative but is surefire way to have false information boomerang in via Citogenesis as media can pick up data from here and then it can come back as a real citation! I suggest given the significance of project we keep speculation at bay. Having said that and knowing how ISRO utilizes legacy hardware yes it is very likely this platform is derivative of one of their standard bus. Visually it looks very similar to NISAR bus which uses I-3K just with much shorter central cylinder. I'll look around for bus related citation worthy info for CY-2. Ohsin 10:11, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Signature CSS

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I noticed that the gray background in your signature looks unbalanced as you're using normal spaces in the span tag. Your signature code is currently

[[User:Ohsin|<span style="background-color: LightGray; color: Black"> Ohsin </span>]]

when it should be

[[User:Ohsin|<span style="background-color: LightGray; color: Black">&nbsp;Ohsin&nbsp;</span>]]

or

[[User:Ohsin|<span style="background-color: LightGray; color: Black; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Ohsin </span>]]

The first one looks like this: Ohsin ; the others look like this:  Ohsin . This happens as span tag collapses spaces inside it. You can avoid that either by using non-breaking spaces or by using the CSS tag white-space: pre-wrap;. —Gazoth (talk) 22:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that suggestion, I have made the corrections and it now looks much better!  Ohsin  01:41, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PSLV

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Please stop removing sourced contents from Wikipedia article on PSLV — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.107.10.178 (talk) 14:59, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Content was merely readjusted and placed in a relevant section while keeping original references.  Ohsin  17:42, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Latifa Al Maktoum

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Hello, Ohsin. I recently removed a lot of content from the page Latifa Al Maktoum. You then reverted my edit with the edit summary, "Reverting unexplained removal of referenced content." Let me explain why I removed the content.

The page 'Latifa Al Maktoum' is a disambiguation page. Disambiguation pages are not articles. They are navigation guides that serve to direct Wikipedia readers to the page they want when article titles are ambiguous. For example, since there are several notable people named Latifa Al Maktoum, someone searching for that name might be interested in any one of the various people. The disambiguation page just points them to the various articles about those people.

Disambiguation pages have their own style, which is described at WP:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages (shortcut MOS:DAB). This style includes not using references, having only one active 'blue' link per bullet item, and including only links to current Wikipedia articles, or to potential articles that are linked from other current articles ('red links').

Since Latifa bint Mohammed Al Maktoum (I) is mentioned at Dubai Culture, and Latifa bint Mohammed Al Maktoum (III) is mentioned at Mohammed bin Hamad bin Mohammed Al Sharqi, I left those red links on the page. The other people named Latifa Al Maktoum are not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia that I could find, so I removed them from the page. I also removed all the references, as the Manual of Style requires.

What should happen next is that articles should be written at both of those names, turning the red links blue. (When that happens, the links to Dubai Culture and Mohammed bin Hamad bin Mohammed Al Sharqi should be removed from the disambiguation page.)

I hope this clears things up. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Cnilep (talk) 02:29, 1 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Cnilep: Thanks for clearing it up and linking to Manual of Style. I should have checked with you before reverting those edits. After ‎seeing Shhhnotsoloud's remarks I realized it was inappropriate to treat disambiguation page that way. I'll see if there is enough media coverage to start those articles and if they meet notability criteria. At least for Latifah bint Ahmed bin Juma Al Maktoum (the Showjumper) I presume it wouldn't be that hard. On page of Tashkeel Dubai I found mention of its founder Lateefa bint Maktoum Al Maktoum as well.  Ohsin  05:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Enquiry

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Hey Oshin, are you Indian or of any other nationality? Bramhesh Patil (talk) 09:21, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ashok Swain

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Hey Oshin, I have a question for you. When you said undid revision by GummiBear139, did you mean undid revision by that IP adress to last revision by GummiBear139? I never changed Swain to Swine. Just needed to clear some things up. GummiBear139 19:32, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@GummiBear139: Should say "Reverted to revision 912324424 by GummiBear139"  Ohsin  19:45, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]


@Oshin: Thank you so much.

GummiBear139 (talk) 19:47, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pragyan rover

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I am aware that there are no references yet to the visual odometry. But I felt it was important to state the purpose for the wheel pattern, and that it was not just a stunt. The reference is bound to come soon, so please hang on. I think it was astute for public relations to select the logos they did. I really think the landing is going to be successful, a lot of world-class talent has been poured on this mission. Cheers, Rowan Forest (talk) 20:43, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lunar science

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Hello. A small request: If you come across some scientific results from Chandrayaan-2, please let me know. I would like to start documenting its achievements. Thanks, Rowan Forest (talk) 13:38, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Rowan Forest: Will do, hopefully soon something on Current Science will get published as well.  Ohsin  10:21, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Rowan Forest: At LPSC 2020 few Chandrayaan-2 papers were submitted.

 Ohsin  22:28, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just a small advice from a concerned user

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If your uploads get deleted, you can upload from the PIB gallery. Just choose “department of space” and it will throw up tons of pictures which are currently tagged for deletion. Just telling.-— Vaibhavafro💬 10:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

:@Vaibhavafro: Unfortunately PIB photo gallery has only handful of photographs that are of interest. Strangely they do no publish all images through PIB portal even though DoS.gov.in is same as ISRO.gov.in, this is just Indian bureaucracy at work, leaving us with nothing. On top of it I have noticed ISRO.gov.in is unintentionally losing or degrading media content due to poor maintenance of their website. Thanks for showing concern this is very important issue.  Ohsin  11:01, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Ohsin: Couldn’t agree more. Also note that any website that is of the format “abc. gov. in” is unambiguously within the coverage of GODL, as far as my knowledge goes. I have seen prominent newspapers like Times of India use images from ‘isro. gov .in’, which were not available in PIB. Why don’t they get copyright notice?-— Vaibhavafro💬 11:11, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Vaibhavafro: Vague terms and conditions, opaque policies are all ways to maintain plausible deniability and shed accountability on part of Govt. agencies. ISRO itself uses commons contents without due credit. The GSLV image here was created by WDGraham. Almost every PSLV mission uses decal which "borrows" NASA's Blue Marble image without credit. This is why and partly out of nostalgia I recreated PSLV's original logo as it used to be, it had a beauty and originality which is now lost. Ideally each official logo should come with its own style guide and all state created media content should by default be in public domain with as less restrictions as possible. Lot of ISRO's history has been lost due to their disdainful and unreasonable attitude.  Ohsin  11:45, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Ohsin: Couldn’t agree more; ISRO is manned by passionate scientists who work day and night, and by amateur clerks who man the website... I think you should request OTRS incase deletion nomination isn’t closed. Deletion of those images will be devastating loss for Wikipedia.-— Vaibhavafro💬 13:08, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Vaibhavafro: The only way to host ISRO images on commons is to have them correct their T&C in alignment with GODL and only Indian citizens can ask them for it, they can learn a thing or two from Astronomical Society of India  Ohsin  13:28, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Ohsin: Maybe an RTI query would solve the problem, but that would require money. So, Maybe shooting off some emails to ISRO might help. Just saying.— Vaibhavafro💬 02:10, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See your commons talk page

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I have got some good news there.— Vaibhavafro💬 16:22, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Using of images

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Where did you got those images of PSLV, Mars Orbiter Mission pictures of Mars. I need more of them to be added in Pages. Barsha kanungo (talk) 08:40, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Please comment at dispute resolution

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Please comment at Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Mohammed_bin_Rashid_Al_Maktoum. Debresser (talk) 08:51, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the edit war we have been having on the ISRO page.

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Hi, I can't imagine that this has been fun for either of us and I would like to reach a meaningful consensus. The current guidelines for the avoidance of Indic scripts seems to stem from laziness and a disregard towards India's cultural and linguistic uniqueness. Adding a translation would help standardize the situation, every other article pertaining to a region where a regional language exists has a local language translation. But for Indian articles this is avoided for some reason that I just can't wrap my head around. It seems to make sense for personalities since they often hail from many different backgrounds and thus have several possible languages. However, for national organizations, companies and other such national level bodies, the usage of Hindi seems to be an easy decision to make since it is one of India's two official languages. I would like to revive a discussion on this issue and bring about a change in the current MOS guidelines. I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me with this endeavour.

Thanks and regards, Debitpixie (talk) 10:26, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Debitpixie: Guidelines are neither lazy nor ignoring of Indian cultural/lingual diversity and uniqueness, they are just a practical compromise and in my view encourages creation of translated pages in other languages. I see little justification in adding translated or transliterated names to English pages especially when they have no close associations with foreign language (see MOS:LEADLANG), lead section of CNES is good example here. In case there are associations a pronunciation guide can be added. State owned companies, national organisations all may exist in local level which have their own official languages too not sure what would such article would gain with one particular language being used in lead for them. For opening discussion refer to Requests for comment.  Ohsin  04:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your point of view, I appreciate it but still don't entirely agree with it. While I would like the rules to be changed, I no longer believe it is possible for me to do so alone. So unless I find a couple more likeminded people I'll have to leave the issue as it is. Once again I would like to apologize for the trouble that I have caused you, I did what I did in the heat of the moment and definitely regret doing so now. Who would've guessed wikipedia could get one so riled up. I would also like to thank you for taking such good care of the ISRO page, I hope you continue to maintain and add new content on there. If you ever require any assistance, please let me know on my talk page.

Thanks and regards, Debitpixie (talk) 13:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Please explain why the section on In Popular Culture was removed from the ISRO page. ISRO is going in significance and will be reference more in popular culture going forward.

If you feel this is not significant enough to warrant its own section, which section in the page would you like to put that information in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayonpradhan (talkcontribs) 04:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think page gains much from it (neither a mention nor a whole section), run off the mill bollywood movies, a series that indirectly refers to names of world's space agencies is not really a pop culture impact, also such sections invite promotional references being crammed in the name of 'pop culture'. Refer to much in-depth pages of ESA, NASA, Roscosmos etc. they don't have such section despite having more reasons.  Ohsin  07:25, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of making a unilateral decision, can you please have a panel of editors decide on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayonpradhan (talkcontribs) 02:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But didn't you did just that yourself while adding that section? Address the issue, ISRO page doesn't gain anything from some poorly made bollywood flick that can't even tell Soyuz apart from PSLV and stray mention of letters I.S.R.O in some web-series that is not significant pop culture impact worth a mention. And to reiterate it this usually just dilutes the page with mediocre list of promoted content.  Ohsin  07:23, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Why was my edit on 'List of space stations' reverted?

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My revision on List of space stations was reverted from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_space_stations&oldid=986545769 to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_space_stations&oldid=986673766

Can you tell me what's wrong with it? Isn't Indian Space Station program named Gaganyaan?

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@Sntshkmr60: Wikipedia edits require reliable sources as citation. Gaganyaan is merely name of ISRO's crewed vehicle under development to ferry crew of three to Low Earth Orbit and back. It is not meant to be orbital station and is capable of only short duration orbital stay. Also Indian Space Station proposal is not a Govt. approved project and should be treated as that.  Ohsin  13:35, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Next launch of ISRO

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When will new satellite of ISRO will be placed into orbit.

I think that in February 2021 ( Amazônia 1) In march 2021 ( SSLV ) In April 2021 ( GISAT )

What you think about it

Please response VISHU VISHESH VERMA (talk) 04:51, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would've expected GISAT-1 launch prior to C51 but so far reports citing officials only give impression that C51 might go first. For SSLV we expect static fire test first.  Ohsin  13:36, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okk thank you Ohsin VISHU VISHESH VERMA (talk) 12:22, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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EOS-3 ( Gisat 1 )

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Gisat 1 satellite can be launch at the last of Jan,2021 or not .

As i also research about this So i think that i ask you

So it can happen or not. VISHU VISHESH VERMA (talk) 12:15, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@VISHU VISHESH VERMA: Sure it can, stacking began on 21 Dec 2020. GSLV MkII has in past been stacked in 33 days for D6. But there's a pattern in ISRO's way of giving launch time estimates, when they say 'end' of month it usually spills to next month.  Ohsin  13:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks foe this information VISHU VISHESH VERMA (talk) 10:16, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is no table on EOS 2 wiki page

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So,please make the table in Eos 02 page. VISHU VISHESH VERMA (talk) 09:14, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you help me expand the article GSAT-24? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harshdeep2021 (talkcontribs) 07:14, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your Revert on "GAGANYAAN"

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I hope that you are aware that wikipedia allows editors to add a citation from any reliable and well-knowned source(both State-Owned and private). The Source of the Specific reverted part was from "INDIA TODAY" and "India Times", both of them are credible and well-knowned media group in India. Currently your "Revert" has been "Removed" and the article is back to it's previous edit because it is not necessary to use only "Government Documents" as source. if I have failed to deliver my message or I have Mistaken, Feel free to contact me in my talk page.

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You need to read the report AND the budget document (PDF) it is based upon it has misinterpreted inflight abort test as uncrewed mission. Getting a context before blindly citing some shady report is better idea and we have direct quotes of office holder on that.  Ohsin  08:49, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank You for your continuous contribution to all the articals regarding Indian Space Programs
It helps people alot (Including me), you maintained the quality standards of articals and facts, It really priceless but accept this small thank from me. Standing Alone (talk) 04:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Revert to ISRO article

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Dear Ohsin,

You have reverted the change that I have done to article ISRO about the New Space Research Facility (SRF) established by ISRO. This is a genuine information and details about can be seen in ISRO website as well. It is fully functional and craters were created for testing rover in Chandrayan-1 and it is being used for Chandrayan-2 as well. Please apply the changes I did. https://www.isro.gov.in/update/10-may-2012/ruby-year-celebrations-isro-satellite-centre-bangalore

Thank you, Surya Suryaprasad5 (talk) 18:41, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SRF appears to be a small facility under URSC which is mentioned already. That subsection is for major research centres. You added that bit not without any citation and out of context and hence it was removed. And that link you gave is from 2012 and doesn't really says much, if you need to add content to Wikipedia you need to cite Wikipedia:Reliable sources that have in-depth information on topic. No craters were created for Chandrayaan-1 and it didn't had any rover only an orbiter.  Ohsin  01:52, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

nNambi Narayanan

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Bambi Narayanan doesn’t have a doctorate. He is not a Dr. Get your facts correct before vandalising[1] ChandlerMinh (talk) 05:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Edit was about wrong accreditation as designer of Vikas not about him being or not being PhD.  Ohsin  10:39, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

Few things I want to discuss

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Regarding the lead section of ISRO, as Danial Case pointed out in GA review, lead section of ISRO's article is too long, we can discuss about this thing in talk page of ISRO and hopefully get new and stable solution

also please check out This edit, I think it needs to be reverted
Thank You, Standing Alone (talk) 11:31, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that space tourism bit comes from this question that has been blown out of proportion by media.
Question which is leading in nature was "(c) the details of other steps Government is taking or propose to take in order to promote space tourism and to implement space diplomacy in the country?"
Prompted this reply "ISRO is in the process of developing indigenous capabilities towards space tourism through the demonstration of human space flight capability to Low Earth Orbit (LEO)."
Mind it DoS/ISRO has been struggling to give the long term rational behind its Human Space Programme so any such opportunities are used to justify it. As far as I know this is not approved objective and just a conjecture, though in past there have been some advocacy for it by ISRO officials even though it goes very much against founding ideals of ISRO.
Yes the lead section is very bulky, paragraph three and five are excessive and a lot can be trimmed off of others as well. ISRO article at present is a dumping ground of information of sorts while page of Department of Space is very underutilized and can be used to simplify it.  Ohsin  18:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ohsin, referring to this edit. I'm wondering whether I should revert that edit, it being list article including both realised and concept vehicles with media coverage. The list article doesn't necessarily include approved, funded and realised systems as reasoned in edit but most those ever envisaged. That belongs to Comparison of orbital launch systems. The list anyway may have to be amended for other reasons though.Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 15:17, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It says list of orbital launch systems, previous additions were based on poor understanding of those projects. Even now listing RLV-ORV as a launch system is incorrect, as ORV is payload and 'launch system' is GEV and whole campaign is being referred by ISRO as 'ORE'. Avoid speculative editing, whole ULV article is proof of such edits, people just create these pages based on hype and never correct themselves.  Ohsin  14:14, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ohsin Although I concur on all parts including ULV which was just a concept, no longer mentioned in ISRO (and shouldn't have an standalone article), I will suggest to restore NGLV program in list. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 08:59, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Do you want to keep ULV there? Ohsin  09:27, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ohsin Only as a concept if it was mentioned by any official affirmation. ULV article needs to be trimmed greatly. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 14:16, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ohsin, I'm looking to greatky trim down the ULV article removing all the OR and insert in NGLV initiative. I'm wondering whether you would suggest NGLV on a section of recent developments of page title ULV or ULV as a section (I move the article to NGLV). Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 02:47, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Payload details of Chandrayaan 3 is released by ISRO in its website. And the picture of Lander in assembly phase (as a screengrab of ISRO documentary, copyright unclear) is available in multiple sources. Since you are experienced with the handling of related articles, could you take this into consideration? Editor8220 (talk) 04:13, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chandrayaan-3 payloads have been known for quite a while now, they are same as Chandrayaan-2 except for SHAPE. And I do not consider that screenshot worthy of being included as it doesn't depict how it is different from Chandrayaan-2. Such stray images with no real context suit twitter not encyclopedic articles.  Ohsin  10:39, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes Diannaa. I wrote the original section on PSLV page as well. I can foresee it will get bulky there so thought of creating a new page. Ohsin  15:03, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Okay I will attribute it regardless. Thank you.  Ohsin  20:36, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Separating Vikram lander article

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Hi Ohsin, I've seen you contribute to the article and related space articles, so wanted to get your opinion on this if you have some input: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chandrayaan-2#Separate_Vikram_Lander_section_into_its_own_standalone_article

It is making it harder to update articles with information on landers when I am talking about Vikram lander on Chandrayaan 3 but have to link to a sub-section of Chandrayaan 2. --Molochmeditates (talk) 13:54, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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