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User:Oceanflynn/sandbox

Hi there, I removed the square brackets around the categories in User:Oceanflynn/sandbox because they were making it appear in the article space categories diff. User drafts aren't supposed to appear in those categories. Please just add the square brackets back when you move it to the mainspace. Kind regards, James086^Talk 13:24, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Ways to improve Wikipedia Western Canada Select

Hi, I'm Athulbnair. Oceanflynn, thanks for creating Western Canadian Select!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Title of the page too has to be considered as mentioned in the talk page of the article.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. —Preceding undated comment added 17:45, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

ENRC

Hi - Thanks for your recent helpful edits to ENRC. Don't forget that per WP:SOURCE you need to use independent sources to cite you additions. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 18:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

IntercontinentalExchange COI

Commodity market and IntercontinentalExchange are the two articles you are mentioning to me. Links should be in talk page entries for ease of communication. I will look into the ICE employee updating, a clear violation of COI rules.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:50, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You!

Promotion of the place where people describe where they live by pointing to a spot on their hand award For all your great work promoting articles about my former (and always dearest) state. Thanks for your great work on Mackinac Island -- Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Enbridge

Hi Oceanflynn, I have looked over your edits to the Enbridge article and you have added some good citations and provided some valuable data such as the amount of financial subsidies which have gone into the fuel cell project, but I am also concerned that you have deleted quite a lot of material, some with no real reason. Would you mind reverting it to how it was and reinserting some of the material you have come up with so that we maintain a bit more detail and article structure please? I am worried that if you do not do that another editor will simply revert all you have done and we will lose the information you have provided. Djapa Owen (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Djapa84, Do you mean this phrase: "as well as green energy." I removed after reading that the fuel cell project was not a success, all the links I could find on green energy were only from Enbridge. I couldn't find any articles that referred to operational green energy. There was one CBC article about another announcement of a joint venture but nothing operational. Put it back if you want to but it would be better to have some other sources besides Enbridge, don't you think.

I also removed "The hybrid fuel cell power plants that are involved propose to generate electricity that will be delivered to wholesale grids." because once I had found the sources and realized it was not a success, it seemed unnecessary. If you can find a source and you think it is still useful, let's put it back.

I rarely delete other people's edits. I try to work them in to any revisions. I moved a lot of my own edits around so maybe that looked like deletions? I'm fairly detached about the editing process. Anything that improves an article is fine by me. Thanks, oceanflynn 03:48, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

I have looked over the entire edit series and take back what I said. Good work. (Although the lameness of saying they took part in a clean air commute alongside all their spills etc. did have a certain poetic air to it. Kind of Orwellian.) Djapa Owen (talk) 04:06, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Djapa84, Actually I left the sentence, "In 2007 Enbridge employees in the Toronto area participated in Pollution Probe's "Clean Air Commute," where they were encouraged to use alternate forms of transportation to get to work.[36]" but I put it at the end of the article. I didn't know where else to put it. Thanks. oceanflynn 04:12, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Hwy43, Thank you for editing wikipedia. Your contributions are appreciated.

In response to your comment regarding additions to Peace–Athabasca Delta

Three solid sources with quotations were used to add to this article.

In the wikipedia page entitled "Copyrighted material and fair use" the use of quoting with attributions is acceptable. It is not a copyright violation.

The following quote is from that page,

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Fair use does not need to be invoked for public domain works or text available under a CC-By-SA-compatible free license, so in such cases the extent of quotations is simply a matter of style." quotations

It is obvious from the amount of time I take to manually input detailed references including author1, author2, ref name="", etc that robust and detailed references are crucial my way of working. In many of the articles I edit I use the "cite Harvard template" so I can add exact pages to references. When facts are stated without any sources, it makes it more difficult for students, for example, or anyone doing research, to follow through by reading the original references.

My additions may be an overuse of quotations where I used 3 sentences in quotation marks from one source. It is not a deliberate act of copyright violation.oceanflynn

My additions:

"The Peace-Athabasca Delta region is the part of Lake Athabasca that is most important to wildlife. The delta is one of North America's last relatively undisturbed deltas and is unique because it is situated on all four of the continent's major flyways. Furthermore, the delta is an important breeding, staging and moulting area for waterfowl and is a nesting area for the endangered Peregrine Falcon."

Peace-Athabasca Delta region supports the "largest area of undisturbed sedge and grass meadows in North America and provides grazing for most of the bison of Wood Buffalo National Park.".

In 1986 Ducks Unlimited (Canada) and Alberta Energy and Natural Resources Fish and Wildlife Division proposed "the portion of the delta lying outside Wood Buffalo National Park, with the exception of the Chipewyan Indian Reserves, as a Wildlife Habitat Management Area..

References

It was the second sentence that caught my eye when checking the ref. Didn't see quotes around it, but I now see it was the second sentence within a three-sentence quote. My bad and my apologies. I will retract the above. Hwy43 (talk) 19:30, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hwy43

Thanks Hwy43. I've looked up your work and contributions. Very impressive. I've redesigned my talk page based on yours using archives. Mine had become so cluttered. I redid my user page from its 2006 out-of-date page. I've used it as a space for keeping track of shortcuts, etc. as you did. I didn't know we had access to these subpages like archives. Tidy. oceanflynn 19:38, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Beaver Lake Cree Nation: Regarding this, I suggest abandoning the complex and convoluted citation method used at Mary Anning for the above article. It is overkill in my opinion. Rather, I suggest using the more simple and adequately satisfactory Template:Citation method used in nearly all First Nation and Canadian community articles. Hwy43 (talk) 19:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Hwy43. I need to use the more detailed templates in order to have page numbers and more efficient access to dates without lengthy repetitions of referenced materials. Numerous featured articles use the sfn, harv etc. A lot of the content I use is not just on one web page or url. It takes a lot of effort to use exact page numbers but it is crucial in finding an exact citation reference for retrieval. In earlier stages of wiki life long learning, I have had my own manually (Author date:page number) removed from articles because they were seen as cluttered or not wikified, losing valuable nformation. Knowing a date, or statistic or quote comes from a report or thesis doesn't help much if you want to confirm it, unless the page number is indicated. Also I would like to see dates in time-sensitive article texts more often.

Hwy43 (talk) was right. In 2013 in order to have page numbers for each citation when available and to have a reference list in alphabetical order, I began to use a "convoluted" and "exotic" citation method" using Sfn. Then I found the rp|16 page reference page template, so elegant and efficient. I realized that as I tried to insert content from one article to a related article, finding the full reference using the {{sfnRef}} template, was more work than it was worth. At some point I also began to use ProveIt. I even revisited some of my older edits and replaced the more {{sfnRef}} with the simpler, and "adequately satisfactory Template:Citation." Hwy43 (talk)

Equity Recourse Notes

Strikes me this topic should be introduced as its own page or as a sub section in Convertible bond?

• Then just reference in Systemically important financial institution
• probe Contingent Capital [1]
• probe Equity Recourse Notes [2]
• add a cocos redirect to the coverage
• see CoCos, Bail-In, and Tail Risk, by Nan Chen, Paul Glasserman, Behzad Nouri and Markus Pelger

Agree its important but want to think long term and getting its coverage placed in a good long-term spot with multiple links (see also) that point to it. Rick (talk) 02:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rick, You've contributed some very valuable editing to wikipedia and your user page has lots of useful tips. I am also intrigued by mind-mapping tools and would really like to see more wikipedia applications in terms of Risk Management, Financial Instruments, etc. Their rhizomic interconnections do not fit well into tables.

I agree with you that ERNs deserves an article in the long term. I think there will continue to be robust reference resources on ERNs available with different points of view. I added the content to the Systemically important financial institution article in its own anchored section Equity Recourse Notes with a future Equity Resource Notes article in mind. There were other options, such as Convertible bond, where it logically belongs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Financial_Derivatives, but Convertible bond has an editorial technical alert, only one reference. The Convertible bond article is not as strong an article as Systemically important financial institution which also has very good coverage with a 90-day page view of over 5000.

I might work on one or two of the following as time permits but I am quite detached from my contributions and other editors may disagree.

• Add ERNs as subsection to the Convertible bond article.
• Leave ERNs content on the SIFI article with more editing.
• Start a ERNs separate article
• CoCos redirect to the Convertible bond subsection
• Create multiple links

Thanks again for your helpful feedback.oceanflynn 14:30, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

See also

• Comparison of Canadian tax software
• Canadian federal budget
• Foreign Accrual Property Income
• Harmonized Sales Tax

SfnRef versus standard reference template

I received some great tips from Diannaa, a librarian as well as a wiki editor, and I will be working on cleaning up the broken templates.oceanflynn 23:03, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi there Oceanflynn. I have done some corrections to the system as examples. The Author names have to be in the format | first= | last = for the system to pick it up. If there's multiple authors, all have to be listed. If the author name or publication date is unknown, you have to specify exactly how you are listing the citation using the {{sfnRef}} template. I have done some fixes as examples. My preference is to use the {{sfn}} template over the {harvnb}, because it automatically collates identical citations, and the <ref> tags are not needed. There's a fact sheet atUser:Diannaa/Citation templates to help you get started. I will now convert a couple citations to {sfn} so that you can see the difference. --Diannaa (talk) 20:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Now you can see how the harvnb and the sfn templates compare. Please let me know if you want to go with the sfn template as I have done lots of this stuff and can help you get it converted quite quickly. I will fix some more harv errors now -- Diannaa (talk) 20:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Dianna, I would like to learn more about the sfn template, particularly how to convert it quickly. Where do I begin? I have been editing quite a bit so I have a number of harv and harbnb to correct. I am so pleased to meet you. Is it possible for some references to continue to use <ref> tags, where they are either already in the article or after starting to use the {{sfnRef}} template, another editor, just prefers them? When you have both, it seems to make a mess of all the references. oceanflynn 23:36, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Britney Spears article as an example of an article using harv template

Thanks for drawing my attention to the efficient referencing in the Britney Spears article. That helps a lot. I noticed there is a ==Bibliography== and a ==References==. That must answer my question above? oceanflynn 23:54, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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Athabasca oil sands

Hi Oceanflynn, I undid your recent addition at Athabasca oil sands. It seemed to be asserting the artist's opinions (filtered by an arts reporter) as established facts. We try to rely on more reliable sources. There's no shortage of material from better sources for such assertions: let's leave the science to the scientific sources. Cheers, LeadSongDog come howl! 18:46, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

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Reindeer vs Caribou COI problem

Due to your COI regarding this topic, I have reverted your edits (many deletions) at the Reindeer article, and will restore the good edits which occurred during that time later on. I suggest you refrain from deleting any content or doing anything which could be interpreted as favoring your competing Caribou article. I AGF that you had no ill intentions. This does not keep you from making article improvements or gnomish edits. -- Brangifer (talk) 23:20, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Which of the edits favoured the article Caribou? I removed the section entitled Bibliography because there was only one item in it which was already in the references. I believe I created that section at one time and put that item in myself. You had commented that the references were a mess and I was trying to tidy them up, particularly any items that I had edited in originally. I removed the section entitled Caribou-specific links (North America) and copied and pasted the three items in that section to the general External Links section to declutter. Just as you spent a lot of time creating and contributing to the article Reindeer hunting in Greenland, I have spent a lot of time creating and contributing to the article Caribou (North America). Problems arose when it was renamed simply Caribou by another editor. This article on reindeer was criticized for being too North American centric and I have been editing it ever since to add new content and references that are not North America centric and removing those that are to the article Caribou (North America). Suggestions have been made on the Caribou talk page that elements from the Reindeer article have been copied from it. In most cased I wrote the original copied material and have been re-editing it in both articles so the content reflects the North American context or the Eurasian context. I don't think this is a COI issue since I am quite open about the intentions. Is there a problem with the caption on the image you use in your Reindeer hunting in Greenland? The photo of a porcupine caribou or Grant's caribou (Rangifer tarandus granti) taken by Dean Biggins of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Alaska is by far one of the best photos of caribou I have seen. But you use this image in an article about barren-ground caribou (Rangifer tarandus groenlandicus) in Reindeer hunting in Greenland with no reference to Alaska. I think this is the issue. Caribou refer to only a small number of subspecies and a number of ecotypes in North America. Reindeer refer to other subspecies and ecotypes in Eurasia. If we don't caption images carefully the content becomes confused. When someone has just read an article about caribou they should not be diverted to an article about reindeer. In the Inuit Circumpolar Conference they use both terms reindeer and caribou, depending on the country discussed. There is room in Wikipedia for two articles.Oceanflynn (talk) Oceanflynn (talk) 00:25, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Yamal

You seem to be cross posting text saying geothermal heat flux is responsible for the Yamal permafrost melting. The source you're using, however, explicitly says the permafrost is melting from "two sides", both below.... and above, which your edits appear to leave out. Thoughts? ? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:05, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) You are right. It wasn't clear. I've just added the full quote to both articles for now and can hopefully summarize it better later.Oceanflynn (talk) 23:28, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Great, I'll check in later. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 01:07, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks Animalparty for your helpful comments on the article Alberta Biodiversity Monitoring Institute. Yes, it definitely needs to be expanded in terms of history and projects. I will be working on this over time and I am hoping other interested editors will add to it. I will probably work on integrating the 2003 studies into thematic studies. I am looking for more references that are not created by the Institute and related agencies.Oceanflynn (talk) 23:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

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Intellectual Property article

For what it is worth, I suggest you slow down on this. The matter you added on NCoV virus has nothing to do with actual intellectual property nor its enforcement -- it is worry over what might happen. It is no kind of actual "case study" much less a "challenging" one. Likewise, the work on H5N1 has nothing to do with intellectual property -- that has everything to do with a conflict between academic freedom and security (ultimately, national security in the country where the work was done). That too should be deleted from this article. A "challenging case study" might be something like the Myriad case, where there is actual conflict over intellectual property. The content you have added is interesting and nicely sourced and should go somewhere in Wikipedia. It just doesn't belong in this article. Jytdog (talk) 18:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Good points. We'll look for a new home. oceanflynn 19:27, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the civil conversation! It is nice material indeed. btw I don't know what happened but your barnstar-awarder above seems to have failed to add an "end" to the box he/she created... hope you can fix that! See you around Wikipedia - surely we will cross paths again. Jytdog (talk) 19:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

That's fine. Fixed the barnstar code bricoleur style. oceanflynn 20:13, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I am so bad with the fancy markup stuff. Congrats on fixing it! Jytdog (talk) 20:16, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Oceanflynn. So you are clearly worked up about the cost of orphan drugs. Cost is an issue, but the content you are writing is, to be frank, relentlessly POV that the cost is a bad thing. Please try to write NPOV content - you are not thinking at all, about the fact that orphan drug laws have been passed because ... people die, in terrible ways, often as children, with no options. There are legit concerns, and there is no doubt that pharma has folllowed Genzyme's model in a big way which raises questions about the cost to society. But please try to edit in a NPOV way. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 16:21, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jytdog, Thanks for following my additions to articles related to orphan drugs. I have recently added orphan drugs to my list of topics I follow and contribute to in Wikipedia and will continue to do so. When I choose a topic, I invest in it until I feel I have covered as much content as I can at any given time with the time resources available to me. I watch for updates and changes over the years. Like any seasoned researcher I use robust sources that are fully referenced. I also add as many perspectives as possible when reliable resources are available. I have access to academic peer-reviewed discipline-based journals and I comfortably read across a number of disciplines thanks to formal education. Every topic has a multiple dimensions including but not excluded to social, economic, financial, ecological, historical, ethical, legal, cultural... This includes topics in the field of medicine. While aspects of the science may move more slowly, these dimensions can change constantly and their inclusion and recording is part of a holistic, complete article and will not be included in discipline-centred scientific or medical journals for example. One of the roles of Wikipedia is to record history-in-the-making. We don't need to wait until it is in the history books before including unfolding stories. When an issue related to any field— whether it is medicine or ecology— is going through changes not covered in its own specific scientific literature, it is incumbent upon serious editors to reveal as much as possible by editing in and citing solid content from robust sources. I have learned through my 10,000+ edits contributed through the years to depend on content in peer-reviewed discipline-based journals and in publications such as The Economist, the New York Times, CBC, BBC, federal, provincial/state government and/or municipal Hansards, etc, reports, departmental reviews, international NGOs, major banks reports by their economists, Forbes, Bloomberg, scientific reports commissioned by governments and major NGOs among others When available on a given topic, I read and access Phd dissertations, MA theses etc (preferably the more recent) for their bibliographies. I read full reports when available online to follow-up on stories headlined in The Economist, or the NYT for example.

I have noticed in the hundreds of articles I have worked on that there are always a few that are overseen by a small group of assertive editors who are unwelcoming to editors who are not in their "group." I prefer to leave these articles alone and create new ones that allow the full content with citations to be added.

Now that I have taken an interest in the unfolding of the story of orphan drugs, I will find ways to add content as it becomes available to Wikipedia. I consider my Wikipedia editing to be successful when I have no messages in my talk pages because I work hard to follow all Wikipedia guidelines and to optimize use and constantly improve my use of Wikipedia tools. Recently I spent hours cleaning up dozens of references in another WikiProject Medicine article that had been added by another editor who did not know how to use the |authors= or |first=, |last= in the citation template. Instead of thanks I received a message about the validity of these sources, all peer-reviewed citations. However, the editor did such a fine job of cleaning up the article that I was grateful. The end result was a much improved article on a topic that is currently widely in the news and will continue to be for some time.

I have no problem with my content being edited removed if the team deems it to be someway inappropriate and there is a solid academic argument for its removal.Oceanflynn (talk) 14:59, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

In regards to the material based on the 2014 Evaluate Pharma publication any removal of the content would require a rebuttal with full citations for each point argued by Hadjivasiliou. If you do a very basic Google scholar search for orphan drugs you will find that the economic challenges mentioned above are listed as issues of concern to policy-makers globally and they will only become intensified. This deserves a space in a well-rounded Wikipedia article.

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first, I am not "following" you. You have popped up on articles that I watch. Second your personal attacks are out of line. I tried to start a conversation with you, one actual human being to another, and instead of discussing, you have taken a WP:BATTLEGROUND stance and made me out to be some caricature. So be it. I will see you on article Talk pages, where we will discuss content based on policies and guidelines. If you want to reconsider your stance, I will be happy to talk. Jytdog (talk) 15:19, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, before today, I had never heard the term "Life science industry" (now corrected to "Life sciences industry". I guess you are talking about the biotechnology industry. In any case, you have been adding this cat to a number of articles where it clearly doesn't belong. Up till now, I have removed it from several academic journal articles and most recently from the article pharmacogenomics. If a field of scientific endeavor like that belongs in this cat, then any article from biology to molecular genetics and botany would fall into this cat. I suggest you re-think the name of this cat and what it is about, because this doesn't work. --Randykitty (talk) 18:37, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Randykitty (talk). I was appreciative of the corrections including the proper term and the erroneous additions. I made changes you suggested. I changed the Commons category to Industries as it is the industry aspect, not the science, that is the focus of this category. I experimented with different portals to find its umbrella. From the literature I understood that "Life sciences industry" would be more inclusive than "Biotechnology industry."Oceanflynn (talk) 19:01, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you Artchivist1 (talk) for organizing the event. I hope you had pizza and fun. I worked as contract art educator at the NGC for a decade and spent many hours with "See the Rushes." Tod deserved an article. I created a talk page for her article which includes a bibliography that has not been incorporated into her article. Would the AGO and/or NGC consider asking Tod for permission to make photos available with a Creative Commons license so they can be included in Wikimedia and therefore the article?

I hope the new editors felt welcomed. I appreciate the way Wikipedia works with many editors correcting and improving articles. But for someone just starting it may be off-putting to have huge notices on your edits. It isn't personal and over time they will learn how to avoid them. I use the lack of comments, deletions and corrections as an indicator of progress. I can add some of the missing references to some of these articles to get the more glaring messages removed.Oceanflynn (talk) 15:06, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

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Your edits look constructive and propertly cited, e.g., [3]. But they need to be paraphrased to avoid copyright concerns, [4].--Lucas559 (talk) 18:17, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks -Lucas559 (talk) You are right that content in the article Pharmacy benefit management needs to be revisited, inline citations from original sources added and lots of paraphrasing to be done. However, I am not the editor or editors who added the questionable material you mentioned in the section covering litigation over PBM practices in 2004. This content, that seems to be plagiarized, has been in the article since at least January 17, 2014. My edits were done from November 1 to November 5, 2015. I found the direct quote in this 2008 publication and I added the quotes and the inline citation with page number using ProveIt.

Medco also "paid Massachusetts $5.5 million to settle allegations that the company pocketed millions of dollars in rebates from drug companies that should have been passed down to the state."

In November 2015 I was concerned about the lack of inline citations in this article in general so I searched for sources and added the quotation marks and references where I could find them. I am pleased that Ithenticate did such a good job in finding the cut-and-paste but that error was made long before I made my contributions.

I am extremely attentive to citations as seen in my edit summaries and my history of editing. I am quite appreciative when another editor improves on content I have added. Wikipedia is amazing.

It was a good step on your part to remove the content until it has been paraphrased and/or quotations and inline citations added. By the way I could not access the www.all-business.com article using this phrase that was cited by Ithenticate so it is difficult to say who published this sentence first, Finkelstein and Temin or all-business?

This topic is so important and it is great to meet another very conscientious editor working on it. The 2004 litigation should definitely be in the article and I did find a great New York Times 2004 article on it. I might work on that at some time.Oceanflynn (talk) 03:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks, Zanimum (talk). I submitted it for review.Oceanflynn (talk) 23:59, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Awesome, I'll try and nominate it for DYK if I have a chance (but feel free to do the same if you beat me to it). -- Zanimum (talk) 16:48, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again Zanimum (talk). There was a waiting list for the draft review process so I deleted the template on the sandbox draft page and created the article directly. I have never nominated an article for Did You Know before. It would be great if you would. I wish I had a photo to add to it.Oceanflynn (talk) 17:09, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

I nominated the article for the DYK! It was my first attempt at nomination so it was a bit messy at first. I think my hook is to long. If you have time to take a look that would be great! If not that's good too. Thanks Zanimum (talk) for encouragement to publish the article and to nominate it!Oceanflynn (talk) 19:12, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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I see you've been making a lot of edits to the Pacific Gas and Electric Company. I was tempted last week to delete most of the "rates" section of the article. It seems entirely unencyclopedic, and would be best on the company's website. What do you think? Magnolia677 (talk) 21:06, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing that Magnolia677 (talk). I wanted to get rid of that section to. It is outdated and unsightly with everything in bold font. I tried unsuccessfully to at least change that. I could move it to the talk page where it could be discussed. If anyone really wants the rate section there maybe they could summarize it instead of leaving all the data.Oceanflynn (talk) 21:12, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, I renamed the article you created Wiki verna kirkness to Verna Kirkness because that's probably the title you intended. GSMR (talk) 15:19, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Diannaa (talk) Almost the entire content of this article was copied directly by User:Iridescent in 2015 from the copyright web page http://www.fisherriver.com/history and/or http://www.fisherriver.com without any quotation marks. When I first started to work on it this morning there was no reference section so I created one. I have spent a number of hours today attempting to correct this while adding new content from http://www.fisherriver.com. I may have missed a sentence or two. Thank you for catching that. Oceanflynn (talk) 20:17, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks Diannaa. My error.Oceanflynn (talk) 02:14, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

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Hi talk I have been looking through my past sandbox entries. There are some for deletion—they are now articles. I didn't know there was an adoption option. What is the process for deletion and/or adoption? Thank you for your volunteer work.Oceanflynn (talk) 15:08, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

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Ahed Tamimi

I really wish you had presented a draft of your recent expansion to the talk page; there are a few issues with how you like to present information. Too many quotes, too many quotes that serve little purpose, too many "according to [this news agency]" phrases for uncontroversial facts, and too many minuet details (she giggles, laughs at teargas, and twice you describe her t-shirt). I know you want to help improve the article but how you present information is just as essential as what information you aim to address.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:37, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for your work on the 2018 Women's March article. The current article is in really rough shape, unfortunately, but you're improvements are much appreciated. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:40, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks (Talk). You've been doing a lot of constructive work as well. I particularly appreciated your clean ups yesterday as you volleyed back and forth with the incessant acts of serious vandalism. The negative comments were in such contrast with the spirit of the march. I deleted some but didn't have either your persistence or the rollback authority for the tricky code. How did the vandals do that?Oceanflynn (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Good question. I was just surprised how long it took for the editor to be blocked... ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:43, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

BTW, I just finished expanding Women's March on Portland. I've requested a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors, and nominated the article for Good status. I requested feedback from editors at WikiProjects Oregon and Women in Red, which resulted in a talk page discussion that turned sideways. If you have any interest, you're invited to review the article and leave any feedback on the talk page (related to the ongoing discussion or separate). Either way, happy editing and keep up the great work! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:00, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Intermixing talk page comments

No big deal, but trying to intersperse your replies within someone's comment is not usually a good idea. And it is against WP:TALK. I thought I'd comment on your talk page, because you may not see my post about it on Talk:List of 2018 Women's March locations. Feel free to delete this from your talk page after reading it. I fixed the problems on the article talk page. --Timeshifter (talk) 03:36, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Timeshifter (talk) for calling that to my attention... a protocol I was not familiar with.Oceanflynn (talk) 04:00, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please be careful

One of your edits on Nunes memo messed up some content, for example, changing date formats and removing the See also section. Please try to remember to preview your edits before saving and respect the established date format.- MrX 🖋 20:57, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks MrX for pointing this out. I am deeply concerned and puzzled by this. My reputation is important to me.

I began a short editing session on Nunes memo at 04:23, February 3, 2018 by filling in bare urls. I made a series of 9 or 10 short edits with no deletions or changes in date formats.

However, at 04:42 something strange happened. Another editor made extensive changes including:

• changing this template pp-protected|reason=Persistent to this disruptive editing|expiry=06:57, 28 February 2018|small=yes from this pp-protected|reason=Persistent disruptive editing|expiry=06:57, February 28, 2018|small=yes

• changing the dating format to date=2018-01-27 in many references. My default, if I am the first editor, is usually February 2, 2018.

• deleting the See also content

• making extensive edits including adding wikilinks, inline edits, removal of references, etc. resulting in the deletion of 2,055 bytes!

These edits were listed under my user name with my edit summary (Memo released inline edit inline citation). How can all these changes be shown in the history under my User name?

These are some of the changes (1,2, 4,5. etc) I actually made: 1. 04:23, February 3, 2018 (+272)‎ my summary: (Ref details bare url) I filled in this reference using the mdy date template

2. 04:34, February 3, 2018 (+192)‎ my summary (ref details bare url) I filled in this reference with mdy

3. 04:42, February 3, 2018 (-2,055)‎ my summary but not my edits??? ‎ (Memo released inline edit inline citation)

4. 04:44, February 3, 2018 (+78)‎ my summary (lead, punctuation) Revised this sentence: "The Nunes memo is a four-page memo written by Republican staff members for U.S. Representative Devin Nunes, that was released on February 2, 2018 by the House Intelligence Committee. The memo alleges that the Federal Bureau of Investigation"

4. 04:45, February 3, 2018 (-10)‎ (→‎Purported contents of the memo: changed section heading to Contents?) I changed section heading to Contents

5. 04:49, February 3, 2018 (+49)‎ My summary (updating to February 2, Memo released) I added "The Nunes Memo was released on February 2 by the House Intelligence Committee.

References

I'm not sure what happened. It's probably an unresolved edit conflict or possibly you edited a previous revision of the article (I've done both plenty of times). Of course, it could also be an issue with the MediaWiki software and/or the database. I assume that your user account is secured with a strong password or two factor authentication. I guess if it happens again, it may be worth inquiring at WP:VPT but otherwise I wouldn't worry about it. - MrX 🖋 22:41, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your speedy response MrX. I appreciate that. You've been busy.Oceanflynn (talk) 22:44, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

My user name but not my edits

This edit on Nunes memo was made under my user name but I did not make the edits. Edits included changing the template from pp-protected|reason=Persistent to this disruptive editing|expiry=06:57, 28 February 2018|small=yes from this pp-protected|reason=Persistent disruptive editing|expiry=06:57, February 28, 2018|small=yes; changing the dating format from the article's standard in a number of references, and making extensive edits including adding wikilinks, inline edits, removal of references, etc. resulting in the deletion of 2,055 bytes which included the "See also" content. User MrX, who pointed out the edits which were disruptive, suggested it may be an "unresolved edit conflict or possibly you edited a previous revision of the article (I've done both plenty of times). Of course, it could also be an issue with the MediaWiki software and/or the database." I changed my password. It is quite disturbing as reputation is important to me. Do you have any suggestions? Has this happened before?Oceanflynn (talk) 23:32, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Oceanflynn It's likely your account was compromised. See WP:CompromisedCHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 23:47, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Account compromise block

Per the above section, I have blocked this account as a compromised account until it can be demonstrated that the original operator is in control of the account. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:53, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Having performed a CheckUser on your account, there is no technical evidence which suggests your account has been compromised, so I believe TonyBallioni can now lift this block. As for the edits you do not remember making, I would suggest MrX may be right in saying you may have faced an "[...] unresolved edit conflict or possibly you edited a previous revision of the article". As a precaution, please review these suggestions, and please do not hesitate to contact me should you require any further assistance - TNT^❤ 23:58, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

I've unblocked per the CU finding above. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Help me!

I am requesting a second opinion on the decision to maintain blacklisting status of Homeless Hub. In November 2017, I attempted unsuccessfully to have Homeless Hub removed from the blacklist status it was assigned in 2010. Following the rejection, I requested on the talk page that there be more investigation by other administrators. I did not understand the process so my November request remained unanswered.

Homeless Hub is an organization founded and directed by Stephen Gaetz OC, a York University professor who has received the the Order of Canada, one of Canada's highest civilian honours, is director of Homeless Hub. He is also the director of the Canadian Observatory on Homelessness, and is one of 13 experts on the Government of Canada's Canada's Advisory Committee on Homelessness. This is his biography on the Canadian government's website. Note that Alex Himelfarb, director of the Canadian Homelessness Research Network and Tim Richter are also on the list. In his profile, Gaetz is named as the Director of the Canadian Observatory on Homelessness and the Homeless Hub. The office of the Canadian Homelessness Research Network is located on the 6th Floor York Research Tower at York University, Toronto, Canada. CHRN has received funding from the Government of Canada’s Homelessness Partnering Strategy and the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council (SSHRC). Alex Himelfarb, Chair of the Canadian Alliance to End Homelessness with Tim Richter as Vice-Chair and Stephen Gaetz. . homeless-hub > Homeless Hub is on their main menu. I have taken a considerable amount of time to understand the blacklisting process which seems to be mainly related to activities by a handful of Users over a period of weeks in 2009 and early 2010. They were blocked.

The following link includes the exchange with the editor who manages the blacklist as well as User names etc and I am not sure if that was appropriate. Homeless hub blacklisting chronology I apologize in advance for the detailed context. Oceanflynn (talk) 22:51, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Oceanflynn Appeal it again in the same place, I'd guess. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 23:08, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

If discussion at MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed_removals fails, you might try WP:AN. I would make for sure to address the reason that this site got added to the spam blacklist if going this route however. SQL^{Query me!} 23:10, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

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	Thanks for cleaning up the List of 2018 Women's March locations, and for your great work on so many articles. Your contributions do not go unnoticed! --Another Believer (Talk) 04:10, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

T. Don Hutto

Hello. Thank you for creating T. Don Hutto. Could you please add a referenced "early life" section? Note that Sen. Bob Corker's mother's maiden name is Hutto but it is probably a completely irrelevant coincidence.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:46, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

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It is with great pleasure that I nominate Oceanflynn as one member of a group of editors that displayed exemplary teamwork. When editors work toward a common goal discussions, consultations, deliberations and concessions are the benchmark. One of the more challenging tasks that an editor can undertake is to manage and manipulate input into an article that is in flux, an article that's "real life history" is developing daily. Such an article was the recent March For Our Lives. Oceanflynn and members of this team deserve individual recognition as EotW's because they came together and worked on the maps of various locations , before and after the event, and the result brought necessary clarity. One need only look at Talk:March For Our Lives#Maps to see the positive interactions that resulted in a timely addition to the encyclopedia.―Buster7 ☎ 17:17, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

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Oceanflynn worked on the recent article March For Our Lives and along with others displayed commendable teamwork. See Talk:March For Our Lives#Maps for the positive interactions that created a timely addition to the encyclopedia.

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Thank you Buster7 ☎ for the award. It is very touching and unexpected.Oceanflynn (talk) 00:29, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hello! After the successful pilot program by Wikimedia India in 2015, Wiki Loves Food (WLF) is happening again in 2018 and this year, it's going International. To make this event a grant success, your direction is key. Please sign up here as a volunteer to bring all the world's food to Wikimedia. Danidamiobi (talk) 22:16, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Business Council of Canada

Hi talk. I was going to create the article Business Council of Canada but User:Sandstein had deleted the page 19:46, April 14, 2018. I then tried to create the article the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, but it had been moved by User:PrimeHunter 03:41, July 13, 2016 to Business Council of Canada. I am currently working on an article on my user page.Oceanflynn (talk) 03:20, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Ottawa11 (talk), My sincere apologies for assuming you wrote the sentence you had simply moved.Oceanflynn (talk) 03:48, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

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Carbon price

Hi there. I just noticed the article Carbon price (Canada) that you created. I've had a similar article in my userspace for a few days (see User:Mindmatrix/Skunkworks/Carbon tax (Canada)). I'm now trying to decide whether to keep mine as a separate article (specifically about the tax), or integrate it into the broader article you wrote. Ideas? Note that if we keep my article too, we'd probably have to shift some content between these two. Mindmatrix 19:26, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

By the way, could you clean up that article a bit. There are a lot of sentences containing quotations with no citations (any sentence with a quotation must have a citation following it - putting it at the end of a paragraph is not sufficient). There are also some quotations which aren't closed, for example "about $69 million a year for gasoline... and "new source of revenue for the government... - both sentences end without closing the quotation (there are more in the text). Mindmatrix 20:01, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Mindmatrix. That's great to have a veteran editor contributing to this topic.

Could your more focused article specifically about the tax, be renamed, Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act?

I am sure there is a way to keep both articles with some shifting and sharing of the content. I am open to suggestions and collaboration. I am an inclusionist.

I suggest a {{todo}} for the talk page. I am going to add this conversation to the talk page.

On August 6, 2018, I created my sandbox article Carbon tax (Canada) as a fork from the article Carbon tax. I worked on it regularly since then. On New Years Eve, I uploaded the contents of sandbox article Carbon tax (Canada) to the main article space Carbon price (Canada) as my last Wikipedia edit in 2018. While not complete, it was 34,523 bytes long and had 46 references. I changed the name from "tax" to "price" as the more inclusive term and the one used by OECD, etc.Oceanflynn (talk) 20:39, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Yellow vests Canada

Could you create a page for the movement in Canada? I think much of what you've added to the page about the French movement is undue, but I'd like to give you time to get it organized for its eventual home on its own page. SashiRolls ^{t · c} 19:36, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi SashiRolls You are right. I put the content on a sandbox page. It does not stand on its own for the main article space, it was too much content for the main article. It is a story I want to follow so I will continue to add to it in the sandbox.Oceanflynn (talk) 23:29, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Indigenous Peoples March

Hi, Oceanflynn. In your recent edits you removed a line and source, saying 'not in ref': what did you mean by that? The quote was, and is, in the source given (see this archive) - maybe place it back? Second, you left the word 'Speakers' at the end of the first paragraph, please take a look at that too. Regards, greetings, Jürgen Eissink (talk) 18:50, 25 January 2019 (UTC).

Can you just fix it? Thanks.

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Thank you Panyd DannyS712, Cwmhiraeth, MPJ-DK for your contribution to the DYK nomination process. This is one of the many satisfying outcomes of being a Wikipedia editor.Oceanflynn (talk) 02:15, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@Oceanflynn: No problem. Thanks for letting me nominate your article --DannyS712 (talk) 02:40, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks Jax 0677 I wasn't sure of the protocols/process. PS Previous talk page is in archives.Oceanflynn (talk) 16:44, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks Jax 0677 I moved it to archives. I hadn't archived since 2012 :(. Oceanflynn (talk) 16:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)