User talk:OboeCrack

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I encourage you to contribute to the Spanish language Wikipedia. You can find other Spanish speakers at Category:User es. Shalom ^Hello 16:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two insect pieces

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Re: Please

I've had a look, at it appears he's adding information without a reliable source. Ill do some cleaning up, but if it's possible i'd translate from where his revisions ended. Ill clean it up, and then you can translate from that. Ill message you here when im finished. Thanks! Metagraph comment 22:46, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Friedrich Wührer

Please pardon the relative newcomer's confusion, but you added the "Wikify" tag to the article on Friedrich Wührer, and I'd appreciate some further guidance, as I'm not quite sure what you were suggesting it needs. After chasing through a long line of Wikipedia links helpfully explaining that "to wikify" means "to wikify," I found the following directions:

An article needs Wikification if it:

Has no specific lead paragraph and / or has no section headings.

Has no internal linking (wiki-links).

Has no Infobox or templating and may require it.

The Wührer article's lead paragraph is certainly brief, but it does tell the basic facts: who he was (Austrian-German pianist) and where and when he lived (birth and death dates and places). The article also contains section headings and loads of internal links to other articles, not to mention red links to significant subjects that are likely to have articles eventually, and is itself the target of links in better than a dozen other substantive articles. Granted, there is no infobox, but the general consensus among classical music editors (with which I agree, as it happens) is that such boxes are inappropriate for classical musicians. As you could probably tell from the article history, I've been heavily involved in the creation and growth of this article, and I'd like ensure it's "up to snuff." Thanks! Drhoehl (talk) 20:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of Buffet Crampon

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Images on Rachmaninoff's First Symphony

Since I'm not sure how to do the licensing for images, I found comparative images on Wikimedia Commons to the ones that were previously removed and added them to the article. Hope this helps. Thanks for the encouragement on the article as well as for trnaslating it for the Spanish Wikipedia. Any ideas on how to improve it, I'm open. Jonyungk (talk) 17:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Górecki

Hola Oboe, Nice work. Ceoil (talk) 22:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind translating your caption for the Lemminkainen's Mother painting for the English article. Ceoil (talk) 23:28, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lodyzhenskaya

Hi, OboeCrack (a fine user name, if I may say so). I used the guideline at Wikipedia:Romanization of Russian:

When multiple spellings are used and no single spelling clearly predominates, use the one closest to the WP:RUS romanization guidelines.

The Romanization table says that the letter "ы" is transliterated "y" when it's an internal letter – the example given is Давыдов = Davydov.

Also, a search shows that "Lodyzhenskaya" is commonly used for this lady. The umlauted-i version gets far fewer hits – and even there, half of them are the straight, un-umlauted i anyway. A Google search can’t be used by itself, but it does support WP’s guideline in this case. Another point is that Anna Lodyzhenskaya is virtually unknown, even to many Rachmaninoffophiles. Her name is hardly known at all, let alone in any one standardised spelling. In my view, this is sufficient justification for altering the spelling that the source used, to the one that WP prefers. I hope that explains my rationale.

On a personal note, I believe that, because we’re writing for English readers, we should never use typography that is unfamiliar to most of them. We’re familiar enough with umlauts/diaereses in German names, but they apply to the letters a, o and u; occasionally to e; but never to i. Thus, most people would simply have no idea what is meant by ï, and it is thus pointless using it. I hate transliterations like "Potëmkin" (what's wrong with Potyomkin?), but I can (just barely) tolerate them. My tolerance is exhausted when it comes to words like "Lodïzhenskaya". Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rachmaninoff: Scherzo in D minor

Hi, OboeCrack. A good start. I've added some refs and did a little cleaning up. Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 20:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re: Symphony No. 1

It's looking better, although one can still tell that some of the wording is based largely on Harrison (e.g. "the most prominent figure in Russian musical life both nationally and internationally"). A good way to avoid copyvios is to read the sources, internalize what has been said, and write the article in your own words. Basing wording off of sources (such as substituting synonyms here and there while keeping the same sentence structure/narrative flow) just leads to trouble. BuddingJournalist 22:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Górecki

Good work on the 3rd recently Oboe. I'm watching from a distance but like the changes. Ceoil (talk) 23:25, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts on oboe concertos?

Thanks for your spelling corrections to one of my lists. In regards to User:Willi Gers07/Quintessential Music Lists#List of quintessential concertos, I'm wondering if you have any thoughts on oboe concertos? Do you play the oboe? Is there an oboe concerto you really like that isn't better known? Is there a standard you've gotten tired of? What about the English horn? Any concertos for that one? Willi Gers07 (talk) 20:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I listened to the Vaughan Williams Oboe Concerto on the Chandos disc with the third symphony. I found the concerto more interesting than the symphony (and I've heard the symphony before, this was my first time hearing the concerto). Willi Gers07 (talk) 19:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Zelda LA instruments.jpg

File:Zelda LA instruments.jpg needs a valid license tag (one of the non-free tags) and a valid fair use rationale. This image is not public domain - it is obviously derived from art in the instruction booklet. --- RockMFR 22:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Link's Awakening

It still needs some work on the prose end of things, but it's nearly there, I suppose. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 14:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi; I've withdrawn the FAC per your request. The FAC page should not be edited again, and the {{FAC}} template should be left on the article's take page. This will allow a bot to process the rest of the withdrawal. Good luck for next time! Steve ^{T • C} 09:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes; like I said, mostly it's an issue with virtually no development; I'll take another dip through my print archives, but the other issue is a lack of current reception from reliable Japanese locations. The censorship is interesting, but it really seems to be one of those things that's true, but not verifiable. It could be an FA, but I really don't have the time to work on it for a while. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 21:46, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Phantom Hourglass

No, not yet, for sure. Gary King (talk) 15:03, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Collaborating on articles

If you wish to translate Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky or any of my GA articles on English Wikipedia, please feel free to go ahead. However, I do not wish to collaborate on Symphony No. 1 (Rachmaninoff) and had stopped working on that article some months ago. Jonyungk (talk) 17:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Russian anthem

No, I am not the main author; I just happen to be the person who argued a lot about what the title should have been :) If my memory serves me, most work was done by Zscout370 (talk · contribs). Considering that the article got its FA star in 2006 (which is ancient history in wiki terms), a FA review might not be a bad idea after all—the FA guidelines got much stricter since then. In other words, I have nothing against listing it for a review (if that's what you are asking). If you do list it, you might want to drop a courtesy note at WT:RUSSIA as well—I personally am not all that interested in anthems, but I know some of the folks there would be. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:54, May 26, 2009 (UTC)

I think we have a small issue about the playing time. Yes, the sheet music at gov.ru uses a 4/4 time. However, with the Kremlin page at http://flag.kremlin.ru/gimn-inside.html (click noti) and it gives a count of 2/4. The anthem also has a playing speed or style that is listed in both laws and in a book I have, so I will need to find out exactly what it is in English. I also do not feel comfortable giving an approximate time when the anthem is played. I am very anal when it comes to sourcing things, so if I do not have a good way to source it, then I try and remove it. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 04:56, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: the Bozza file you added

I linked to the wrong discussion in my edit summary about the deletion of the Bozza audio file. See this section of your Commons talk page. Graham87 14:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tchaikovsky

I'm translating your article. I looks awesome and educative. I'm checking the free extra spaces and removing them. I do have a question about ref 34: is it a reliable source? I mean I think you cand find a good one for "Tchaikovsky later claimed she was the only woman he ever loved".

I find also difficult to understand this paragraph, specially the last sentence: "While Tchaikovsky may have been romantically active, the evidence for "sexual argot and passionate encounter" is limited.[31] He sought out the company of homosexuals in his circle for extended periods, "associating openly and establishing professional connections with them."[31] Wiley adds, "Amateurish criticism to the contrary, there is no warrant to assume, this period [of his short-lived marriage] excepted, that Tchaikovsky's sexuality ever deeply impaired his inspiration, or made his music idiosyncratically confessional or incapable of philosophical utterance."

What does sexual argot really mean?
- According to Cobuild, argot is "a special vocabulary used by a particular group of people particular group of people which other people find difficult to understand". "Sexual argot" would them be a vocabulary or coded language that described sex or sexuality. Jonyungk (talk) 04:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
An this "or made his music idiosyncratically confessional or incapable of philosophical utterance."?
- "Ideosyncratically confessional," according to Cobuild, would mean the same as unusually confessional or having an extreme need to confess something wrong. "Philosophical utterance" would mean an utterance with great seriousness of purpose, as though someone were talking about important things such as life or philosophy. Jonyungk (talk) 04:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My english is good, but not enoguh for those. I hope you can explain it to me with your words when you have enough time. I thank very much your job and all you do, I think you already now that. I just hope to reflect your excellent job in other wikipedias. OboeCrack (talk) 23:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tchaikovsky in Cambridge

I no longer have this image. Also, the image is copyrighted, which is why it was not used in the English Wikipedia article on Tchaikovsky. Jonyungk (talk) 15:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This phrase: "a sentence of suicide was imposed in a "court of honor" by Tchaikovsky's fellow alumni of the St. Petersburg", means that he was sentenced to death or after he commited suicide he was imposed that? Sorry, I don't understand it. Fellow alumni means school mate or partner? Thanks OboeCrack (talk) 15:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It means that he was sentenced to death. Alumni means school mate. Jonyungk (talk) 19:23, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The last thing: "Rumor attached to the famous die hard", does it means that he died because he was afraid of being famous? I don't know. Thanks for your help!! OboeCrack (talk) 15:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It means it is very difficult to dispel or get rid of rumors about famous people. Jonyungk (talk) 19:23, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated sentence

This: "Tchaikovsky felt his professionalism in combining skill and high standards in his musical works separated him from his colleagues in "The Five." He shared several of their ideals, including an emphasis on national character in music. His aim, however, was linking those ideals with a professional standard for structural perfection high enough to satisfy European criteria." is repeated twice in the text. Can I know why, please? OboeCrack (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is be used once in the lead section and again in the body of the article, which is perfectly fine. As far as I know, the sentence is used twice but it is not repeated twice. Repeated twice would mean it is stated three times, which it is not. Jonyungk (talk) 03:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another points:

"Contributory factors were his suppressed homosexuality and fear of exposure, his disastrous marriage, and the sudden collapse of the one enduring relationship of his adult life, his 13-year association with the wealthy widow Nadezhda von Meck."

The punctuation there is missing, I think it needs to be rephrased or add an and instead of a comma.

- The punctuation there is fine the way it is. If you wish to change it in your translation, please feel free to do so. Jonyungk (talk) 03:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Born into a middle-class family, Tchaikovsky's education prepared him for a career as a civil servant, despite the musical precocity he had demonstrated from an early age."

I think precocity and early age are redundant. OboeCrack (talk) 22:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Then feel free to leave out "from an early age". Jonyungk (talk) 03:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More

"substituting at the Bolshoi Theater in Moscow on short notice for the first three performances of his opera Cherevichki."

Does it mean that he replaced anybody else in that teather, or that he was told to do those performances without many time to prepare. The problem is on short notice and substituting (somebody). Thanks for your help! OboeCrack (talk) 15:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It means both these things—that Tchaikovsky was asked to substitute for someone else, and that he was asked to do so without much time to prepare. Jonyungk (talk) 15:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chaikovski Artículo Destacado

Congratulations! In case you are interested, my other featured articles are Symphonic poems (Liszt) and Choral symphony; Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov is a good article but would be worth translating. I would also recommend any of Brianboulton's articles as they are well researched and excellently written. Jonyungk (talk) 22:41, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK submission

Thanks for submitting Piano Concerto (Tan Dun) to Did you know. As noted on the suggestions page (link), the article is currently too short; it should be at least 1500 b as measured with this tool. I hope you'll be able to expand the article. Ucucha 03:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thanks for translating the Tchaikovsky and Smetana articles - here is a small token of appreication ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and new projects

Thank you for the congratulations on Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov making FA and for the barnstar. I am especially glad you are translating the Rimsky-Korsakov article, as I think it will make a fine addition to Spanish Wikipedia. In answer to your question, the only article on which I have future plans is Tchaikovsky and the Belyayev circle, which just went through a thorough peer review and needs considerable work before going on to FAC. I have already mentioned the other featured articles I have authored—Symphonic poems (Liszt), Choral symphony and Tchaikovsky and The Five—and any of them might be worth investigating for translation, as well. Thanks again for the encouragement. Jonyungk (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No3

Day or two please, I read about this somewhere. Hope all is well, other than this buring questions. Best...Ceoil ^sláinte 00:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Phrase

The meaning of the sentence, When Rimsky-Korsakov was offered a professorship at the Saint Petersburg Conservatory after Zaremba had left, it was to Tchaikovsky that he turned for advice and guidance, is that Rimsky-Korsakov asked Tchaikovsky for advice etc. The professorship was created for Rimsky-Korsakov, not for Tchaikovsky. Jonyungk (talk) 19:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rimsky-Korsaakov was offered a professorship at the Saint Petersburg Conservatory.
Rimsky-Korsakov was unsure whether to accept, due to his lack of formal music training.
Rimsky-Korsakov asked Tchaikovsky for advice on what to do.

He did not ask for advice because of or due to Tchaikovsky. He went to Tchaikovsky to ask him what to do because Tchaikovsky was formally trained in music and was already a professor at the Moscow Conservatory. Since Tchaikovsky was an expert in the field by working in an academic institution, Rimsky-Korsakov consulted him for advice on whether he should work in one, as well, and what he would need to do to successfully work there. Tchaikovsky told Rimsky-Korsakov that to be successful in teaching in an academic institution, he needed to study.

Hope this helps. If you have more questions, please feel free to ask. Jonyungk (talk) 23:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for translation

I don't think I thanked you for the Six Moments Musicaux translation to the Spanish wiki. And if I have, I haven't thanked you enough. It looks great, and I hope that we can work together to further the great Rach's legacy! ALTON .ıl 04:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Il ritorno d'Ulisse in patria

Thae article was promoted to Featured Article today, and I'd like to thank you for your support. And I wish you luck if you decide to translate it! Brianboulton (talk) 19:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

3rd

I have read about this somewhere but have been unable to relocate it. Will keep trying. Hope all is well otherwise! Ceoil ^sláinte 19:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Found it in Thomas, p 163 (I had been spelling Premiere wrong when web searching) - 4 April 1977, Royan International Festival of Contemp Art: SOP: Stefania Woytowicz, Conductor: Ernest Bour Ceoil ^sláinte 19:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Phrase

In this sentence Piano manufacturer Franz Becker made occasional visits to the School as a token music teacher. the meaning of token is provisional. Jonyungk (talk) 19:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

Hi OboeCrack - Are you still working on the improvements for the FAR of The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (review located Wikipedia:Featured article review/The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask/archive2). I'm mainly wondering because if you're no longer interested, I'll move the article to FARC. If you are still interested, I'll ping a few editors to comment so that we may be able to keep the article without a move. Let me know - and thanks for your work on the article so far; it's great to see articles improved and kept rather than hastily delisted!

Mahler's Eighth Symphony

I thought you'd like to know that I have used the image you provided of Mahler's composition hut (File:Mahler Composition Hut Klagenfurt.jpg) in the above article, which has just gone to FAC. The symphony was actually written in the hut, in 1906. Brianboulton (talk) 00:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Links

Hola Oboe; very plesant link here though it cuts off too early. Dawn Upshaw here. Best wishes. Ceoil (talk) 11:42, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks forthe new article - I made some comments on it at Talk:Tiger (Danish store). Nice to see you back on Wiki again, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:07, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mahler Eighth

None of my sources (De La Grange, Mitchell, Cooke etc) give the precise numbers of strings required in each section. Maybe Mahler did not specify? His object was to produce a range of sounds rather than sheer volume, and the work has many chamber-like interludes. Brianboulton (talk) 09:35, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Translating my articles; need new translation of Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky

Thank you very much for the note on my talk page about your translating my articles. I am pleased that your doing so makes the knowledge in them available to millions more potential readers. Please keep up the good work.

You may not be aware but I have thoroughly revised Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky. The Music section that is the second half of the article is brand new, as is much information in the Life section. In a way, I hate to add to your work as you put so much effort into translating the previous version of this article. However, if you compare the two versions, you may agree the new version is an improvement and worth the extra effort. Jonyungk (talk) 13:59, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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