User talk:NuclearUmpf/Archive 2

Questions to Self

This is just a list of questions I ask myself after reading some people's replies, things that seem backwards to me or don't make any sense when I read them, no names or dif's will be provided so noone should or could take offense. I won't answer them myself or respond, but if anothers want to tackle the question feel free to throw in a reply.

Terrorist/Resistance Supporters

How can someone argue that its the right of resistance groups to use certain tactics to resist a government, and those tactics arent terrorism in that manner, then argue that the US supports terrorism by supporting those resistance groups?

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Cowman109^Talk 23:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for not referencing those links, it was not my intention to tear things from perspective, or waste your time. I was writing those assertions at the same time I received some disturbing information about nature of arbitration. Lovelight 17:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just put them in context, feel free to update your section if you feel the need and if you feel I am misrepresenting you or the situations Mongo was in, at that point I will be happy to revise the section I presented if I agree with you. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 17:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a bit puzzled, I was searching the log of blocked users, and apparently there is none related to LoveLight, how come? The reason I'm interested? Well, I cannot remember why they threw me out… and apart from that I'd like to post that log as evidence (along with one final remark), what am I missing? Lovelight 18:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who threw you out of what? I am a bit confused as to what you are talking about. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 18:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's about my letter, presented as evidence on this case…, I've searched blocked users log, and couldn’t find anything related to my user name? However, I clearly remember being blocked;)… anyway, I would like to present such evidence, simply to confirm authenticity of that letter… If I was blocked why is there no reference, is there some other way in which I could prove that letter was really sent in that timeframe? Lovelight 18:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your block log is clean [1], perhaps you were not blocked and are just mistaken? Nothing I can think of would prove you sent it 100% at time X, unless you sent it to someone currently on ArbCom and they can verify it, or an admin that is willing to track down your email. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 18:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm afraid I'm not mistaken, and I'm afraid I don't like this one bit… I'm willing to forward that massage to you (in its original form) so you may verify authenticity… As happens I could also provide automated reply received from unblock-en-l-bounces@mail.wikimedia.org, it's titled "Your message to Unblock-en-l awaits moderator approval" and it has some strange link to nowhere? (have no idea why I still have that, I usually clean my inbox from such confirmations….) You see, the more I think of it, the more it seems to me that there was no valid reason whatsoever for me being blocked, perhaps I was too polite? I could also provide you with some replays to that un-block request… Please, if I could have your assistance? Lovelight 19:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sent: Tue 8/22/2006 9:07 PM
Your mail to 'Unblock-en-l' with the subject
911 & Lemmings (disputed article 911)
Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The reason it is being held:
Post by non-member to a members-only list
Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL:
http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/confirm/unblock-en-l/7ee82a31427bd029b09ac17897088eb0d85b1927

This shows you sent the email, not that it was ever reviewed etc. I am not sure why you are so eager to prove this point, has anyone statedy ou are lying? it seems like an overly defensive thing to stress yourself over. I am also not sure why you wish to have me look at it, your best bet would be to have an ArbCom member review it as proof, perhaps all of them. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 19:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to butt in here, but I was wandering through and might be able to offer an explanation for why you were blocked but had nothing in your log. If an admin blocked an IP address you were operating from and didn't set the block to "anonymous only", then any logged in user from that address will be blocked as well. This was meant to keep vandals from just logging in to various accounts to continue causing headaches, but can cause collateral damage at times. The easiest way to check for this is to log out and check the block log for the IP address you are operating from. If you haven't changed IP addresses since the block happened you might see when and why it happened. --StuffOfInterest 19:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not about point proving, as I said it's puzzling for me that no log of my block is recorded, and no valid reason was given… it was a short block if I can recall it correctly, twelve hours perhaps… but if someone exercised excessive and unnecessary force, I'd like to know who and why, that’s all… sorry to have bothered you… Thanks for that .nfo I'm afraid that my ISP uses dynamic IP's… but I'll look at all this later, there are some new developments on 911 talk page… later. Lovelight 19:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Range block?

I've got to run and won't be back online for an hour or so. Before I go, what would you say to a range block of "70.8.x.x" for anon only access? Otherwise, this guy is going to play whack-a-mole for hours or days. If we hit him with 24 hours for now and progress up from there he might catch a clue. --StuffOfInterest 21:57, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldnt support a range block but I am not an admin to initiate one anyway. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 21:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, you carry yourself like one. :) We may have to work on that soon (the adminship, not how you carry yourself). OK, just soliciting opinions at this point. I'll see if we causes much more damage before I get back online. He spammed the Village Pump pretty good an hour ago, so an ANB/I report might draw some attention if he returns again in the next couple of hours. Thanks for the opinion. --StuffOfInterest 22:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Slightly disgusted

Is there no end to this indecency?? Lovelight 20:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused, its just a typo, don't beat yourself up over it. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 20:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'm sorry for it, and btw I honestly thought it was not my mistake… (thus such reaction) just checked version which I pasted, it was my (MSWords) typo all right… thanks to whoever pointed that out. Lovelight 20:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hate when that happens, words that are spelled right, just not the right words =( --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 20:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Beat me to it

Thanks, I was about to ask the same. He might need help with his header there, if you will help him. Thanks. JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 20:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Epopt

Are you nuts? Look at his user page. You are the (second to) last person I would expect to object to a US Navy boomer vet. Thatcher131 23:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its really a matter of transparency, as I wrote I trust him, but that isnt the issue. =) --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 23:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Link to response from CBDunkerson (eom)

Thanks

Thank you Lovelight 17:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 17:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's this? if my boss seen my list here I would be transfered overseas to run our blacksites. please do not put it back. Thank you; nuclear humor? Lovelight 17:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it was a list of Federal Agents, not sure if you read it, since we are secret agents doing this job, our names appearing on lists of exposed agents could land me in Italy runnnig a "black site". --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 17:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your input is requested

Your input would be appreciated at this Request for Comments. Kelly Martin (talk) 17:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

September 11

Good discussion. I was wrong about it being a blog. --PTR 19:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I think it is a good discussion, I am just waiting on Strangelove to throw the kitchen sink in, he seems more opposed to it in principle then anything else, bouncing around to different reasons when one is shown to be not appropriate. I took your advice and changed the link to something more specific, hoping it would have been enough of a middle ground. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 19:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it was rather nice to watch… sorry for that ignition there, I still think that whole timeline is properly referenced and cited, but this is middle way solution and such are usually the best. Never saw you in action Nuke… impressive (with no second thoughts). Lovelight 20:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing broken citation

Error on my part. Dealt with now.--Zleitzen 00:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 00:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

You have been blocked for three hours for reinserting your personal attack after being asked to stop, also in violation of your probation at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Zer0faults#Zer0faults_placed_on_Probation To contest this block, please reply here on your talk page by adding the text {{unblock}} along with the reason you believe the block is unjustified, or email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list. This block has been recorded at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Zer0faults#Log_of_blocks_and_bans. Cowman109^Talk 00:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I already explained to you it wasnt a personal attack and that I really do think everyone knows DMC was sorry for pushing MONGO off wiki, however DMC feels he was doing the right thing with his proposals. For you to come here blocking me is quite a disgusting violation of WP:AGF. I would ask for an apology but I am sure I would not get one. A better method would have been to ask, but I am sure this was alot easier for you. Quite disgusting as I pointed out because I left a message on your talk page explaining and you simply ignored me, real nice. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 00:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

NuclearUmpf (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Cowman is upset that I disagreed with him at an ArbCom hearing and is assuming bad faith on my part by telling DMC that I am sure everyone knows he is sorry. This was in fact a statement as I really do believe everyone does know he is sorry. Can someone tell cowman to stop assuming bad faith. Further my probation is not for NPA violations, further showing Cowman attempting to manipulate policy and assuming bad faith. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 00:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Block expired. --WinHunter ^(talk) 03:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hurricane

I saw your message on MONGO's talk page and just wanted to let you know that Hurricane Katrina didn't overflow the levees. The levee was breached. --PTR 14:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know of any senators with hybrid cars? --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 15:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln Chafee, Richard Lugar off the top of my head. Strangely, not John Kerry. You'd figure he would drive one wouldn't you? Senators are a strange people. --PTR 16:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would think Gore would, do you think he does? Do they drive hybrids while working or only at home? Thansk for th einfo, whats states / parties are those guys of?--Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 17:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gore switched to a hybrid two years ago so that's another one. Chafee is Rhode Island (R) but was not reelected and Lugar (R) Indiana. Also Barbara Boxer (D) California. --PTR 21:52, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about Gore, he was in a limo during his movie, surely not a hybrid. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 23:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's funny, he gave an interview to Time http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1562957,00.html saying he'd switched to hybrids 2 years ago. --PTR 19:59, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe personally but in the movie he surely is not in a hybrid limo ... do they even exist? --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 20:37, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube RfC

I've filed an RfC over the YouTube link issue. Argyriou (talk) 18:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cooperative Research timeline at 911 attacks article

Please assent or dissent to mediation in the 911 external timeline link matter. [2] Thanks. Abe Froman 17:18, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strategem

I assume that this is some sort of strategem, but you should recall that it didn't do you any good last time you tried it. Your enemies didn't suddenly become your friends, and you lost a few that ordinarily support you. I take this opportunity to remind you who helped you out in your NomenNescio fights, and the endless accusations against you of sockpuppetry. Morton Devonshire^Yo 21:34, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Email

You claim I sent you email. i have no record of it. Please send it to me so I can understand what it is you are referring to (or you can post the contents, not my email address) to my/your talk page if you wish. --Tbeatty 23:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to continue doubting it then give me permission to post the full contents and email address. I think everyone gets the picture by now that you did email me, no matter how much you act as though you did not. Unless you are going to give mefull permission I consider this issue at rest as I will not accept anything in between, and I am sure everyone realizes why. Have a good day. --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 13:27, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm part of "everyone," then I personally think that your condition that you be permitted to post Tbeatty's personal e-mail address is goofy at best, so maybe I don't get the picture or realize why. (1) If you really got e-mail from Tbeatty, what is the possible harm in sending him a copy? (2) If there's doubt about whether the e-mail is authentic, you two could always agree to show the e-mail to a trusted neutral party (not me!) who could then agree to keep the e-mail confidential. Personally, I find your accusations of a conspiracy implausible in some details, but I suppose stranger things have happened, so not impossible, just highly implausible. TheronJ 14:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am willing to send it to anyone on Arbcom bearing they will actually then state its authenticity with an email TBeatty has or once had registered with Wikipedia. If they cannot check past emails they then simply could have changed their email since its on a free provider (is this further proof yet). I called you get it? Still denying? --Nuclear~~Zer0~~ 03:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Attack page

FYI:

User:Morton_devonshire/friends#Bad_boys.2C_bad boys.2C whatcha.27 gonna_do_when_they_._._.

You can ask Morton to nicely remove this material from his page, if he refuses...
You can ask an admin to intervene, if that doesn't work...
you can put the page up for deletion.

You know the drill.

If you recall another admin deleted your "attack page" (when you were Zer0faults) immediatly. I see it all the time. Travb (talk) 23:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]