User talk:Norms1107
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Happy editing! violetwtf (talk) 22:34, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Are you article-worthy?
[edit]To do: Create a draft using WP:YFA. Transfer all of what you have put in your Sandbox to the draft. Also delete all the content on your User page. Later, you can put stuff on your User page, folling WP:UP guidelines. At the draft, create section titles akin to what you see at existing articles about living people. Hyperlinks are not allowed in articles, so remove all those. Verify all factual content with reliable source references (see WP:42). Help:Referencing for beginners explains how to format refs. If you cannot find and put into reference format at least three ref about you, give up. Put Db-author inside double curly brackets {{ }} at the top of the draft and an Administrator will delete the draft. David notMD (talk) 17:40, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Norm Schrein
[edit]Hello Norms1107,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Norm Schrein for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!
Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.
BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 03:31, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Norm Schrein moved to draftspace
[edit]An article you recently created, Norm Schrein, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Liz Read! Talk! 03:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest
[edit]Hello, Norms1107. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
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Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse!
[edit]Hello! Norms1107,
you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Liz Read! Talk! 03:48, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
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AfC notification: Draft:Norm Schrein has a new comment
[edit]March 2023
[edit]{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. Bbb23 (talk) 22:02, 27 March 2023 (UTC)- @Bbb23 unblock single account Norms1107 (talk) 01:29, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
AfC notification: Draft:Norm Schrein has a new comment
[edit]Blocked for sockpuppetry
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- Hi - I'm writing regarding this comment you made over at my talk page on Simple Wikipedia. That's a project I don't contribute to, so I'm bringing the discussion back here, where I act as a volunteer administrator, and where I have made the block that you are enquiring about.
- If I understand you correctly, you're saying that you created an account for use by somebody else, whom you know, and who is trying to write an article about you. Even if I accept that you are two different people, I'm afraid that the actions you have taken run counter to several of our policies here. First of all, WP:SHAREDACCOUNT prohibits the use of a single account by multiple people. We then have WP:SOCK, which prohibits the use of multiple accounts for improper reasons, which is why I blocked these accounts. Then we have our conflict of interest guidance, which prohibits users from writing about subjects that they are personally connected to without proper disclosure (and I'll throw in WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY as worth reading). Since it is clear that the other user is known to you, the edits from these accounts seem to be at odds with that guidance as well. I recognise that this is a lot of rules, and a newcomer would find it difficult to navigate all of them, but you need to be aware of them. Once you have familiarised yourself with them, you can submit request for unblock by following the guidance at WP:GAB. Best Girth Summit (blether) 10:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I actually do not know the person as she is a student working on this as a project in her high school computer coding class. I would gladly delete the account I created in my name if I kneew how to do it and let her continue on the account she created. I really have no knowledge of all the rules for Wikipedia nor do I intend to post on there as well. Finally we are not working together on the project other than me supplying her material she has asked for. If there is an easy way for me to delete my account please let me know. I will send your answer to her and she can make herself familiar with the rules you mentioned and that way can complete her project. 2600:1700:A620:E08F:64B8:24E7:22CB:AB33 (talk) 12:38, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Accounts cannot be deleted I'm afraid. The student can make an unblock request on her own talk page, and discuss ways forward with an administrator there. Best Girth Summit (blether) 12:52, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, I will pass that information along, but as I remember I tried to make a request on my talk page yesterday but with being blocked (my IP address) it would not even let me do that. Right now I am not logged in. 2600:1700:A620:E08F:64B8:24E7:22CB:AB33 (talk) 13:00, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- If you log in, you will be able to edit your own talk page (but no other pages). Girth Summit (blether) 13:10, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. Norms1107 (talk) 13:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- So, I just received another notice on teahouse below and now I can not respond on my talk page when logged in. Help. Maybe it is because the poster there has not bothered to read the conversation here.
- User:Norms1107 created an unreferenced article about himself (Norm Schrein) that was Speedy Deleted, then went on to create the article again. It was cleaned up by others and moved to Draft:Norm Schrein. There, account User:Sydni62095 restored Norm's version, word-for-word (still unreferenced). Whether either the mysterious high school student or Norm using a second account, both now Indefinitely blocked. My advice: A cursory search found no evidence that Norm meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Abandon working on the draft (meh, you are blocked, anyway); in six months it will be deleted as an inactive draft. Don't bother appealing the blocks on the two accounts, as it appears that your only motivation to being a Wikipedia editor was to create an article about yourself. David notMD (talk) 14:27, 30 March 2023 (UTC) Norms1107 (talk) 16:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't seem to be getting anywhere with this topic. Who ever David notMD has not kept up on the discussion. Wikipedia certainly is not user friendly and when we try to answer concerns we are blocked even the IP address has been blocked. Any other suggestions other than the uninformed David notMD's actions. We would like to use the single account since we can not delete the one and be able to answer his questions. We can not even add the notability requirements of which we have many. Norms1107 (talk) 16:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Finally, one last thought. It is kind of silly to block an IP address when there are literally hundreds of places I can go to connect to get on-line with a different ip address each time. I don't think that would stop anyone trying to get around your rules, etc. It is making it difficult for someone who is legitimately tryig to use Wikepedia. Norms1107 (talk) 16:46, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- IP addresses recently used by an account are automatically blocked when an account is blocked. When they switch to a new IP, when it becomes clear that it is not the same person, we tend to block that IP too, or indeed their entire range if necessary. At present, you are blocked, and that block applies to you the person, not just to your account: you are not permitted to edit any article or project page here, except for this talk page - and you should only really be editing this page in order to request an unblock.
- Are you 'legitimately using' Wikipedia? If your intention is to publish and article about yourself, then no, you are not. I don't know about Sydni62095, but it's hard to believe that you genuinely don't know her, since both accounts were editing from the same computer until a couple of days ago. But, as I said, you are welcome to request an unblock and another administrator will consider the situation. Girth Summit (blether) 16:53, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Syndi62095 probably did use the same computer on both accounts. The first one that I made for her to use and then she made the second one since my account seemedd to have issues with Wikipedia. I guess I am asking how do I go about requesting the unblock and since my computer skills are not espeically good it might be better for her to request the unblock for her account. Whatever information you give me on this point I will send to her instructior and see if they can resolve the issue. Norms1107 (talk) 18:23, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Finally no I am not publishing an article about myself she is however. Norms1107 (talk) 18:25, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Syndi62095 probably did use the same computer on both accounts. The first one that I made for her to use and then she made the second one since my account seemedd to have issues with Wikipedia. I guess I am asking how do I go about requesting the unblock and since my computer skills are not espeically good it might be better for her to request the unblock for her account. Whatever information you give me on this point I will send to her instructior and see if they can resolve the issue. Norms1107 (talk) 18:23, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Finally, one last thought. It is kind of silly to block an IP address when there are literally hundreds of places I can go to connect to get on-line with a different ip address each time. I don't think that would stop anyone trying to get around your rules, etc. It is making it difficult for someone who is legitimately tryig to use Wikepedia. Norms1107 (talk) 16:46, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't seem to be getting anywhere with this topic. Who ever David notMD has not kept up on the discussion. Wikipedia certainly is not user friendly and when we try to answer concerns we are blocked even the IP address has been blocked. Any other suggestions other than the uninformed David notMD's actions. We would like to use the single account since we can not delete the one and be able to answer his questions. We can not even add the notability requirements of which we have many. Norms1107 (talk) 16:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- If you log in, you will be able to edit your own talk page (but no other pages). Girth Summit (blether) 13:10, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, I will pass that information along, but as I remember I tried to make a request on my talk page yesterday but with being blocked (my IP address) it would not even let me do that. Right now I am not logged in. 2600:1700:A620:E08F:64B8:24E7:22CB:AB33 (talk) 13:00, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Accounts cannot be deleted I'm afraid. The student can make an unblock request on her own talk page, and discuss ways forward with an administrator there. Best Girth Summit (blether) 12:52, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I actually do not know the person as she is a student working on this as a project in her high school computer coding class. I would gladly delete the account I created in my name if I kneew how to do it and let her continue on the account she created. I really have no knowledge of all the rules for Wikipedia nor do I intend to post on there as well. Finally we are not working together on the project other than me supplying her material she has asked for. If there is an easy way for me to delete my account please let me know. I will send your answer to her and she can make herself familiar with the rules you mentioned and that way can complete her project. 2600:1700:A620:E08F:64B8:24E7:22CB:AB33 (talk) 12:38, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:Norm Schrein
[edit]Hello, Norms1107. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Norm Schrein, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.
If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 16:08, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Norm Schrein
[edit]Hello, Norms1107. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Norm Schrein".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 15:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)