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Swayambhu nath is not what the temple is called, this is a post Gorkhali addition, nath...go ask any Newar... I am correcting an imported/ imposed title. You are supporting the colonialist position.

Please check for yourself at https://swoyambhustupa.com. and then feel free to remove all the 'nath's

This is like calling it the Monkey Temple.... Nima t100 (talk) 09:13, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh, and while you are at it please amend the wiki entry title to swayambhu, not swayambhunath...

the same applies to Boudha, (not Boudhanath) Nima t100 (talk) 09:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have a source? Also, changing file names is hardly "correcting". - Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 22:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

there is no 'source' per se since these are acts of colonialism.

however, if one refers to all the indigenous sources 'nath' is never used.

hence I shared the swoyambhustupa.com site - which is managed by the Buddhacaryas of swayambhu. you can also see that both the Devanagari: स्वयम्भू स्तूप and Nepal Bhasa: स्वयंभू given in the entry - only say swayamabhu or swayambhu stup. They don't use nath.

anyway, for 'sources' by omission I refer you to Hem Raj Shakya's tome https://shopratnaonline.com/sri-svayambhu-mahacaitya-hemraj-shakya-religious-book/

and any of A V Rospatt's research articles on Swayambhu

https://www.academia.edu/5659983/_The_Past_Renovations_of_the_Svayambh%C5%ABcaitya_in_Tsering_Palmo_Gellek_and_Padma_Dorje_Maitland_eds_Light_of_the_Valley_Renewing_the_Sacred_Art_and_Traditions_of_Svayambhu_Dharma_Publishing_2011_pp_157_206

none of them use 'nath'

the colonisation is not limited to these gods, we see Seto and Rato Macchendranath, Minnath... actually they have indigenous names; Bunga Dyo, Karunamaya...but the gods have been conflated with Gorakhnath... who was brought by the Gorkhas...

https://sujan.net.np/about-newar/the-newar-pantheon/

Similarly, Boudhanath - it's indeginous name is Khasti caitya, noone ever says Kastinath

call it what you like if you don't like 'correction'. It's an act of decolonialisation Nima t100 (talk) 05:13, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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