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Good to know...

that other people are paying attention to non-tropical cyclone articles...I seriously just went to change Tornado to top class, and figured I had already done it until I saw your edit summary. Wierd.

If you're interested, I'm in the middle of getting Mathbot up and running for Wikipedia:WikiProject Meteorology. Start adding {{meteorology}} to the talk pages of any which seem to be lacking the template. Anyways, happy editing. -Runningonbrains 07:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Hurricane John 2006 radar.jpg

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TC Reports

Hello, you know the reports by Jack Beven you got a while back. The southern hemisphere ones only reach up to around May 1996. The reports by Gary Padgett date back to October 1997, but no further. There is a hole missing between May 1996 and Oct 1997. Do you have any info you know of that is in between these dates??? I'm finding info for Cyclone Justin at the moment. Justin's existance falls right in the middle of that "missing hole"!! RaNdOm26 13:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Well done on that newsletter member thing

Good work, Nilfanion. I must point out something, isn't this issue "Number 4", not "Number 3"????? (at the top right corner) RaNdOm26 07:09, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Cyclone barnstar

Member of the month

Cyclone barnstar

The August member of the month is Nilfanion. The WikiProject awards this to him for his contributions in many diverse sections of the project. Nilfanion joined the Wikiproject in April and provides track maps for the project and has produced a featured picture. He has developed the tropical cyclone Commons Category scheme in the process. In addition he has produced a number of quality articles and is active in assessment.

:P --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 23:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Image deletion

I posted the image of the Citizens Rule Book, which you recently deleted. I understand that the copyright is questionable, but my understanding is that book covers are "fair use" and can be posted. The cover image is available on several websites and I cited the site that I copied it from. What can I do to make sure the image meets the standards of the Commons? In the licensing drop-down menu I saw no option that would cover books. Mycota 02:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Nilfanion! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Prodego ^talk 01:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Image

What! Why? What for? That image is perfecally legitimate and it shows Ernesto at a stronger intensity than the other image did. It's just generally a better picture. I would appreciate an explaination. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 17:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Screenshot deleted – why?

Hi, you delted Qemu_win_linux.png. It was a screenshot taken by myself and as I declared in the copyright notice I've relaeased to public domain. So now the obcious question, why did you delete it? Qemu has no copyright on screenshots and there are other screenshots of qemu in other languages. SO what was wrong?

kind regargds, -- nurnware

re deleted bit in Solomon

hey sorry nilfanion i just deleted it because it looked like someone added it who doesnt know what theyre talking about. its gramatically incorrect and just makes a vague statement about unspecified excavations that might prove solomon's existance.

brendan--

--haha yeah ok i guess... thanks

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.27.147 (talk • contribs)

False Map Removed

Arabic is not one of the official language of Eritrea. that is false information so the map was removed. Removed map: Image:Arabic.PNG

Shiny tool link

Here's the link I was telling you about: [1] Titoxd^(?!?) 08:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

POTD

This is to let you know the Featured Picture you uploaded and/or nominated File:Global tropical cyclone tracks-edit2.jpg is scheduled to be Picture of the day on October 3, 2006, when it will be featured on the Main Page. Congratulations! howcheng {chat} 17:21, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Beefy

Beefy is my brother, I dont know why you guys keep on taking him off of the "beefy" page. I appalogise for some of my other comments but what is wrong with having a very popular nerdcore artist on your website?

Track Maps needed again

1906 season needs them.1998's Mitchazenia (joking) 16:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!

On page Jack Moran you reverted my edit. That is in fact the name of the movie, and not vandalism.

Re: Fairstead, King's Lynn

In response to your notification that text had been deleted, I can indeed confirm that it was intentional, as I believe that there was no need for it to be there. The "Safety Warning" section is almost entirely unencyclopaedic and simply conveys totally biased views on an area which, in my opinion, is not as bad as it has been portrayed. Encyclopaedias do not naturally contain bias, and I do not believe they should. Thank you

Jonathon Hill, isn't it?

On page Jonathon Hill you reverted my edit. Welsh people do in fact say "Isn't it" alot.

Hyundia Tiburon RD Tiburon Link

Hello, I editted the Tiburon page to include a link to non-GK site, so those of us with RDs can help our fellow drivers. The link was www.rdtiburon.com. Thank you for your time, User:Arcy 07 01:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)Arcy 07

I was wondering why "Boys Brigade (band " was deleted. There was some information I would like to retrieve from said article. deleted 18:40 15 Sept 2006. Would you be so kind as to respond to my question? 69.197.12.98 16:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Gospel of Eve link

My information on the Gospel of Eve was removed, can you re-instate? I got this from the Nag Hammadi library I didn't make it up! The link completes a helpful circle around the figure of Eve in the gnostic canon. I believe it deserves to be in there to help people who are researching this. Ironically 'whatever you will happens to me' will be the fate of my comments! Martin IP: 86.140.169.77

Hi- Vandalizing Anon

Hi pleased to meet you. This 82.37.198.177 vandalizing Anon, continues to vandalize the Template:Castes and Tribes of the Punjab. I think he has been warned many times that he will be blocked if he carries on vandalizing. The only way forward now is for this vandal to be blocked. Yours faithfully--Peter johnson4 05:31, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Had you read the article before and after on Allan Rock, you'd have realized that someone was merely flaming him. Thank you and please don't reverse an edit without actually checking to see first.

Your Block

Well, I have Mackensen's talk page watchlisted, and when Hahnchen posted about User:Creator Prophet earlier today I didn't know if he was active, so I blocked him (page move vandal). In the process though I hit the diff on the right when I should have hit the diff on the left (you must have reverted it). Slap me with a wet trout. Thatcher131 01:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

ProQuest

I don't think there's a way to get free access to ProQuest. However, most large libraries and university libraries will have access to it, or will have the actual microfilm. It could be quite a job, doing the research, but the material is definitely available and ought to be included in the article. --Spangineer^es (háblame) 19:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Commons question

I just uploaded the image File:Pre Karen ET storm.jpg, but I had a problem regarding the strength. Right now, we only have categories for SSHS scale, TD's, TS's, SS's, and ST's, so I put it under unknown strength. Should we create a category for extratropical/remnants of storms? I don't know what it would be called, but images of precursor tropical waves, extratropical storms becoming subtropical (like Perfect Storm or Karen), or a pic of the remnants of a storm currently have no category. I know they are not technically tropical cyclones, but for organization purposes should we group nontropical storms that at one point were tropical with the tropical storms? Hurricanehink (talk) 01:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

You edited something, and it was completely unnecessary (spelling?). Anyway, I'm one of those few active members of ALP and we have a very strong sense of humor. I am Koko on the forum and what I did wasn't vandalism. The creator of the page (member of forum) would be cool with it. The wikiarticle was made for the artist behind ALP for his birthday. It would be great if you could put back my little innocuous statement: Koko wuz here, because as I suggested to all the other forum members, they should do it too.

Lehigh University trivia reversion

hi, The thing I pasted was all true. There was a student at the university, an act was passed by congress and it is concurrent today. Why is it nonsense? I did not post it on the main web page for the university because honestly I think it is trivia and not important to the university in itself. If you think that it should not be the first piece of trivia then you could have lowered it but why delete it? It was not vandalism. Honestly I think it was a lot more substantiative than a lot of the other so called "trivia" on the page...

Foggathorpe

I created an article stub about Foggathorpe using the small amount of information I could find. Yesterday 81.174.167.207 (obviously not experienced in editing WP) took the trouble to put an amendment onto the article. You then accused him/her of adding nonsense to Wikipedia with an offputting message on his/her talk page.

I am interested to know whether my original assertion about Foggathorpe's amenities is correct or not – and I will investigate further. Since you seem to be so sure that 81.174.167.207's contribution is "nonsense", please let me know what information you have about Foggathorpe.

I also think it's worth mentioning that, even though you may not have meant it, your message to 81.174.167.207 came across as high-handed, inappropriate and rather insulting. I very much doubt if this person is a vandal, as your message implies – I think it is more likely that this is somebody with local knowledge who has discovered WP and taken the trouble to try to correct it. Such people can help to make WP more reliable and should be encouraged.

Regards – Euchiasmus 06:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Deleting "Image:Nyhus Pappa 04.jpg" etc. from Wikimedia commons

You apparently deleted my uploaded file :Image:Nyhus Pappa 04.jpg because of a copyvio book scan. This file was made by me as the author, illustrator and graphic designer of this Norwegian children's book, and I consider the image in low resolution to be of no violation against copyright laws of the publishing house. I therefore hope we can keep similar files under lisence self2|GFDL|cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0. Or am I misinformed? ́́--Wolfmann 18:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

You have deleted some of my other image files as well. As the originator of these files I published them under the same free license as for Image:Nyhus Pappa 04.jpg. Please restore these files immediately. Thanks! --Wolfmann 18:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh my, oh my! Why do you delete files like image:Egil Nyhus Carl I Hagen.jpg? They were uploaded under a free license for non-commercial use. Or don't wikimedia commons have this type of license anymore? Once again: Please restore. --Wolfmann 18:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Albert Rivera image deletion

Hi,

I have uploaded an image called Albert Rivera.jpg There is no copyright problemm, as it is a Political Party poster. It is free for download as you can see at the party main page:

http://www.ciutadans-ciudadanos.com

We need to show it at the Wikipedia party entrance. es:Ciutadans de Catalunya

Please restore.

Contact me if you need more info ciudaddebarcelona at gmail.com

Ciudaddebarcelona

Thanks,

No can do. "Tots els drets reservats" = All Rights Reserved. Therefore its copyrighted and unusable in anything except under Fair Use.--Nilfanion (talk) 07:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Global tropical cyclone tracks-edit2.jpg

I just wanted to say that I think your work is stunning! Please keep it up! --Zantastik talk 22:18, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I do as well. Thank you. --65.25.221.9 03:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't.

Don't speak before you know what you're saying. Make an effort to find out the facts. Coredesat had actually wanted to do the first redirect; it was discussed on IRC (while, as you say, is not in anyway "on-wiki", don't accuse me of something I would not have done otherwise), but he was busy, so I offered to do it for him. I'd appreciate if you'd find out what happened before going around accusing me of WP:OWN. – Chacor 15:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Busy vandal at commons

From this address: 24.166.25.33. I just noticed it has a long list of edits, usually the captions in the image descriptions. I think you've crossed paths and edited after it, so I can't just revert... Good kitty 21:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

You have removed my edit on the page [The Rock (film)] but you did not explain why my contribution was not of use.

revisions of The Rock

Thank you for addressing my concerns. I was confused by your actions since your message to me implied that my intentions were to experiment with editing a page, rather than in good faith add a contribution.

Winchester Model 70

I think if you compare the two articles, what you will find is that I did not delete material, but rather re-organized the existeing material. I created two new subheadings, one on Law Enforcment Use and the other on Military Use of the Model 70. Additionally, I organized the existing material into the three groups that Winchester Model 70s are normally grouped into: 1) rifles maufactured from 1936 through 1963, 2) from 1964 through 1991 and 3) 1992 through 2006. I added and deleted abit as I did that, but I deleted sparingly (for the most part the article is quite accurate) and added only here and there. I organized the article to more closely follow the manufacturing history of the Rifleman's Rifle. Oh, I also added a number of links for the cartridges listed.

The information in the article (and my reorganization) is easily referenced in The Rifleman's Rifle: Winchester's Model 70, 1936–1963 by Roger C. Rule; History of Winchester Firearms by Dean K. Boorman or The Complete Book of Winchester's Model 70: The Rifleman's rifle, Peterson Publishing.

Based on that, please restore my work. Thanks.

I agree. 216.16.63.247 did a lot of good work and can (should) site his sources. You should restore it and make any specifc edits that you feel need to be made to correct any inappropriate deletions. Thanks! Zonedar 21:57, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting it!!! Zonedar 23:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Nilfanion, thanks for unduing your revert. Do you use Model 70s much?

Tropical Cyclone Winds and Central Minimum Pressure

You have inmumerable track images loaded for various Tropical Cyclones and one of them is for Tropical cyclone MALA. Is there a correction between the Tropical Cyclone winds and central minimum pressure ? The wind speed for MALA is 125 Knots, however, the minimum pressure shown for MALA is 954 mbars. Since you have access to best track data, I presume you could throw some light on this subject.--Ugaap 16:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Is there a link to RSMC New Delhi archive data for North Indian Tropical Cyclones ? I would appreciate your help.--Ugaap 15:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Snowshoer packing skis image

That image is CC and has a link to its source. What is it missing? Daniel Case 01:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see now ... he changed to being copyrighted. Can he do that? I thought CC was pretty hard to take back. Daniel Case 01:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The photographer has informed me he is changing the license back to CC. Daniel Case 23:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

CLJ

I've uploaded the image to the english wikipedia from the romanian wikipedia, as one can see atthis link.

Thank-you!--—Preceding unsigned comment added by ES Vic (talk • contribs)

My edit

I was simply putting out another view, one that I believe has a lot of support. More support than the theories about his health or an angel.

St Ninian's page

Please stop deleting information on the St Ninian's page. The information was written by a pupil of the school.

Orphaned image

The image has been orphaned i have sought advice from another user who is an administrator. They have suggested that the fair use claim was stretching the boundries a bit too far. They suggested the removal of the image from the article. As the image is not bieng used in any article and the fair use claim has now been deemed unsuitable by another administrator then the image must be removed as soon as posible. I am unale to do this as I am not an administrator.--Lucy-marie 23:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that i was refering to the File:Millys body location.jpg Sorry i forgot to mention it.--Lucy-marie 00:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

JTWC site migration

http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/jtwc -> https://metocph.nmci.navy.mil/jtwc/

Anything after /jtwc/ is untouched, it seems. – Chacor 10:44, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Radar imagery for Hurricane Erika, 2003

Could you possibly get a radar image of Hurricane Erika in 2003 making landfall from that awesome program you have? Tito recommended it for the article. Thanks if you can. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

reversion of my edits to created kind

the reason I changed descendents to anticendents was that the claim is that all current species are derived from those on the ark, I changed the word before to during for stylistic reasons, as "before" doesn't specify how long before and until how long after they were supposedly housed.

Alberto image

Thanks for trying to help but AySz88 said virtually the same thing you did. I ended the discussion yesterday. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 23:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

The Forties

The AHS from the forties, or before for that matter, are not bad articles, and if you would please give me more than a fraction of a second to realize an honest mistake, I'd really appreciate it. I am in the process of notching those articles up to your standards and adding sections for missing storms. See the post I left in 1949 AHS. Let's not be so quick to react. Re-reverting is a nuisance. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 23:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

My RfA thanks

Hi, Nilfanion! Thanks for your support in my RfA, which succeeded with a final tally of 75/0/1! You wanted a personalized message, so here it is. I guess this means you can bother me about all things image-related (at least here, that is). :P

--Coredesat 15:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Track maps

Can you make some track maps for 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2004 Pacific hurricane seasons? All in all, I think there's about 15 missing. Good kitty 21:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Sig

Wait, how does it know what font face I want? I use Helvetica (the font used by UNISYS) and your shorter version looks exactly the same. How does it recognize that without specifying the face? -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 23:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:NME MarilynManson.jpg)

Cheers for bringing to my attention the orphaned Manson image, I uploaded it some time ago and added it to the Marilyn Manson artice; I feel that an artiste being on the cover of NME is part of their story. It's all presumable because I rate NME as the UK's premier magazine for Rock/Indie music, however I'm not sure that this opinion is universal. Again thanks for bringing it to my attention. Y control 10:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Image violates fair use?

You claim File:Samraimi.jpg is easily-replacable with a free-use image. This is funny, because you don't seem to be able to replace it with one. Have you tried to find a free one? I have and wasn't successful. If you think it's so easy to do, then just DO IT instead of putting a tag on the image claiming the task is simple- if it was so easy certainly you could have done it, right? --TheTruthiness 07:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Image

You left me a note about the fair-use eligibility of Image:Michaelcatonjonespromo.jpg. I'm not sure how easily this could be replaced, or how "a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created". I'm not an FU expert, but I was under the impression that promotional / publicity shots of people could be used under exactly these circumstances. He's not all that well known and probably doesn't live next door to a shutterbug wikipedian, so I think the image should be OK. No? If this is the bar for image deletion then 90% of the images on WP are going to have to go which kinda goes against the point of having FU in the first place. Deizio talk 20:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

It's such a subjective rule to have to interpret, and no doubt leads to well intentioned image patrollers like yourself getting plenty of grief from well intentioned image uploaders. If the office commanded all {{promotional}} images were wikiana non grata, fair enough, if it's left to us 'pedians to decide than I'd be a lot happier if there was a clear, joined up policy rather than disagreement and the talk pages of good souls like yourself turning into the image complaints department. "An image of a living person that merely shows what they look like" sounds to me like the definition of "photograph", and speaking from the perspective of a WP:WPBIO member it's generally held to be desirable to have one in an article. I don't see "An image of a city / flower / monkey that merely shows what it looks like" in the guideline. You obviously know more about this than me, but like I say I'd be more comfortable if FU eligibility was crystallized in clear policy rather than slightly confused guidelines. Good luck with the patrolling, Deizio talk 21:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Track

I see you got most of them. This one is missing, though. File:3-E 2002 track.png Good kitty 02:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? was updated. On 5 November, 2006, a fact from the article 2005 Azores subtropical storm, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 00:07, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Cyclones Newsletter

Yeah, you caught me at the right time, I just got back from a little break without notice here, so I think I'm regenerated and back to Category 4 Status :P °≈§→ Robomæyhem ←§≈° 00:10, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Hawaii hurricanes

Hey, I'd appreciate it if you could check out the Hawaii hurricane page. I got rid of every typo, cleaned up the writing, and made sure ever inch has 50mm to go along with it. What does it need to be a B class? →Cyclone1→ 01:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Erm... make that 25 mm. →Cyclone1→ 01:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Commons vandal

Yeah, for some reason I ended up going to Commons, and I ran into heavy vandalism that was at least five minutes old, so it was time to vandal-whack the old fashioned way. :P No problem. Titoxd^(?!?) 03:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

LureBall.jpg

yes, that and a few other's were removed from the article page. I hadn't gone and deleted them because I was currently fighting for their re-inclusion. However it was agreed that most of them should be removed. There is however still a disagreement about the use of four images, LuxuryBall.jpg, JohtoPokeballs.gif, PremiereBall.jpg, and Masterball.jpg. I'm not sure if it was just boilerplate you left on my talk page. But if you would like to review the info at Talk:Poké Ball I'd appreciate it. It was originally a disagreement between myself and another editor, I then sought outside opinion by posting at WT:FUC, but felt by the two people who bothered responding, that they may have gotten confused about what i was specifically trying to include. Again, thank-you for reminding about these images, and i'll delete them soon. -Zappernapper 14:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Image for Deletion

Why did you submit my image (File:Ia6.jpg) for deletion? Please don't take it down.

Button bar for WPac

Thank you for expressing your views on the proposed WPac button bar. You are invited to give your opinion on a set of factors regarding this here. - SpLoT _{(*T* C+u+g+v)} 15:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

SpLoT _{(*T* C+u+g+v)} has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

RE: Lithium Changes

Hi Nilfanion,

Thanks for your message regarding the changes made to the "Lithium" page, but I'm afraid that I wasn't the one that edited the page. In fact, the first time I have even visited the "Lithium" page was after receiving your message. I'm not sure how my account/name/IP was linked to this editing but I can guarantee you that I wasn't the one who made any of the changes. Sorry for the confusion.

Jordan

Adminship

I hope you dont mind, but I asked a question as to why you werent an admin to some users in the IRC admin channel, and all of us agreed you'd make a great member of the team, and no one knew why it hadnt happened?! Would you be interested in a nomination?  Glen  23:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello, hello, hello

Haven't been around of some time?? There's been an awkward silence in some places around Wikipedia!!! hahaha RaNdOm26 08:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Stellar performance

I'll just have to delete my bookmarks pointing here then I suppose ;) Good luck and godspeed. Scoo 23:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

1979 tracks

I added all these depressions and i was wondering if you could make tracks for them.The tracks are on the referenced link for them.Mitchazenia(8700+edits) 20:18, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

SPAC Best Track

• http://www.eas.gatech.edu/research/hurricane/tracks.sh.txt

I'm not sure if you have that or not. I just thought I'd check. Hurricanehink (talk) 17:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I just found it off another weather message board. However, the topic creator in that link says the wind units are in knots. Does that clear anything? It was completely silly of you to mention Isabel there. I nearly died laughing :P (just kidding) Yea, a reflectivity image at or near landfall would be ideal, if possible. Hurricanehink (talk) 22:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Damn, that's a disappointment :( Hurricanehink (talk) 23:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Maths and canes

I don't know. We can't round up to the nearest mph because we do not know how accurate the measurements were (was it 115 kt or 116 kt) – also, saying that Nora (or any other storm in the same situation) is 130 mph implies that it was under the 131 mph threshold... it's something to bug the NHC about, IMO. But see why I now think it is a bad idea to have these automated conversions? Titoxd^(?!?) 22:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Your RFA

I have asked you a question on your RFA. Please answer it.--CJ King 23:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Public domain images

I just found this site after Thegreatdr fixed up those two typhoon articles. [2] These pics are really excellent, and it would save him and everyone a lot of work if we could use them. Good kitty 02:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

new question rfa

i have left a new question on your rfa. --Foundby 20:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations!

You are about to pass your RfA with 100% support and 116 positive votes – how cool is that? A Bureaucrat will be along in a while to issue you with a shiny new set of admin tools. If you need any assistance in using them then please don't hesitate to ask. Regards and good editing, (aeropagitica) 23:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! Taxman closed on time at 0:00 UTC (perhaps the first ever RfA closed on time!). Well done! Martinp23 00:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Congrats Nilfanion! Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 00:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Since you took the time to list at exactly 00:00 UTC I thought you'd enjoy having it closed exactly on time. Since you're already a commons admin you know how to uses the tools, just make sure you check up on the differences of how things are done here. The community has put it's faith in you, so do the best you can to live up to that. Congratulations and have fun. - Taxman ^Talk 00:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I hope there was a bit of sarcasm in the "have fun" bit :) Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 01:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on joining WP:100, Nilfanion! Have fun with the tools, and if you ever need any admin-related help, feel free to contact me. =) Nishkid64 04:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Great job, though don't neglect your WPTC duties :P Here's a wikilink to remind you of something you need to get done. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! Enjoy your promotion – you have earned it! JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 05:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I second JungleCat! SD31415 (SIGN HERE) 12:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Way to go! All the best. ++Lar: t/c 13:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Unanimous, very succesful RfA! Congratulations on your success and the promotion. All the best with the tools. :-) ← ANAS ^Talk? 15:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Well done and congratulations! The images (and all of Wikipedia) will be glad to have you. -- Natalya 22:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! --Tone 23:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulation on your new position! Reub2000 23:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

History merge... /me laughs maniatically :) Titoxd^(?!?) 00:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! Now go clear out CAT:CSD. --Slowking Man 02:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

WPTC Newsletter

Hi. Thanks for the newsletter. However, I noticed a place where it said "lasted formed". Is that a spelling mistake? Thanks. By the way, it doesn't really matter whether there's a mistake, since I can read it anyways. AstroHurricane001^{(Talk+Contribs+Ubx)} 13:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Good job!!

Have fun!--CJ King 22:22, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

You are an admin now!

Congratulations! I am sure you'll be able to help Wikipedia even more as an admin. I'll be seeing you around! Cheers! Yuser31415 17:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:

Remember you will always protect the wrong version. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5) Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll. Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block. Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology. and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able. KillerChihuahua?!?

DISCLAIMER: This humor does not reflect the official humor of Wikipedia, the Wikimedia Foundation, or Jimbo Wales. All rights released under GFDL.

That image

I didn't mention it at RFA, but the image I made with your inspiration also because a picture of the day at Earth Observatory [3], so obviously you had a good idea. So, thanks.

On the point about track density, I know, but chose to do it with all of them. Since the plotting approach I took was to put the more intense colors on top, I was going more for showing where the worst storms occurred rather than emphasizing individual tracks. I figured given that, plotting all of the data probably wasn't going to hurt much (even if the old data was poorly constrained in intensity). On the other hand, even modern data is poorly constrained in intensity in some parts of the world. Dragons flight 22:56, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Hope all goes well

Kudos on your adminship! And what a picture... :-) Dar-Ape 22:59, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Image

I only put up what Hink showed me- its only my 2nd time putting anything up for deletion.Mitchazenia9000+edits) 23:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Yay

Wow, unique comments to everyone! You are amazing! hehe. Anyway, welcome to the image team if that's what you decide to do, I like it. We get a lot more new users than commons I think, and fair use. (and only have to worry about english!). See you around :D – cohesion 23:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations

On becoming an admin. You'll do a fine job. Cheers, Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . Editor Review} 07:39, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Party!

Congrats..:)--HIZKIAH (User • Talk) 13:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations and good luck =) SpLoT _(*C*+u+g) 13:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Congrats!

Hey Nilfanion,

Congrats on becoming an Administrator! Its a big job, but I'm sure you are up for the challange! Mystify85JEC 21:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Meander River

As per what you said about my contrib to Meander River, Alberta, I had only copied the information from the other site while at work and was planning to rearrange it and add to it when I got home. Suppose I should have waited and not used the site as a holding ground for info, but it's all updated now :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Koppertone (talk • contribs) 04:35, 11 January 2007 (UTC).

Userbox category

Hi, I've fixed a category in one of your userboxe to correct one Category:British_English, if you have Category:User BrE on purpose then I apologize. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 01:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

FU Rationales

I need help explaining my fair use rationales. The reason is listed here. Storm05 14:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Cindy (l963)

Could you move the above to Hurricane Cindy (1963)? The latter is currently a redirect. Hurricanehink (talk) 17:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Storm05/Hurricane Dora (1999) on to the mainspace

Can you move the above on to the mainspace over the redirect Storm05 17:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Strongly opposed. First, like I told Titoxd, it's riddled with errors and misinformation. It doesn't even round off the conversions, in direct contradiction to Wikipedia MOS guidelines. – Chacor 01:37, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Guys don't please argue about it here, instead fix the issues. Errors and misinformation, state what these are on the sandbox's talk page so they can be fixed as opposed to merely stating they exist. MOS problems are a cleanup issue and can be fixed in mainspace. The question of if the article should even exist should be properly discussed in main space.--Nilfanion (talk) 01:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

On second thoughts I've sorted this mess out. I've moved the sandbox to article and reinstated the redirect. I've also copy/pasted back the last version to Storm05's sandbox; that these edits are connected is indisputable. If Storm05 wants he can continue to work on it in his sandbox (I am not expressing any opinion on the text of the article except to say more work is needed), and copy/paste his sandbox to mainspace without administrator assistance. I will not think highly of any edits to Storm05's userspace version by another editor, if someone else wants to raise an issue they should put it on its talk page and Storm05 can act upon it.--Nilfanion (talk) 02:22, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Map for List of Florida hurricanes (pre-1900)

Can you make that sometime while the article is still on FLC, or should I ask someone else? Hurricanehink (talk) 18:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much, and I'll keep to my end of the deal by assuring Ignacio gets to GA ;) I think all of the tracks are good. Some had far reaching effects, like rough surf or its outer bands producing rainfall in the state. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Yagi Unisys Track

Yeah, I do. Seems they've fixed the error since, but luckily I saved it: [4] -- RattleMan 19:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Random Smiley

User:Pedia-I/SmileyAward2 Jerry lavoie 07:29, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!!

Good job at becoming an administrator. Can you tell me how to help out, because I don't know where I should help improve articles.--Lionheart Omega 00:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Juan

Thanks for your comments on the talkpage. I wasn't sure where Good kitty was coming from really given the minor nature of the edits. Good to have a more expert opinion. I was wondering if you might have time to do one of your fantastic animations for the article to show the hurricane's landfall? WJBscribe 23:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh well, never mind. I've grown fond of the article this evening having reverted 21 separate vandalism edits to it :). WJBscribe 23:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

My signature

Sorry, I hadnt taken the codes disruptiveness into consideration. I've trimmed it quite a bit, is this ok? I could cut more if need be. -RunningOnBrains 19:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Cyclone 01A 2001 track.png

This one's msw was 115 knots. The map should indicate a category 4 somewhere. Good kitty 06:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

3-E 2002

I don't see any errors in this track [5], although the page says it was last modified last November. That red link on the page should be fixed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Good kitty (talk • contribs) 00:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

I guess this has to do with wikipedia

though it seemsas if it might be a commons thing too? Anyway, you marked a photo of mine, <Image:SherzerFire1.jpg> as being a candidate to moving to . . ..... somehwhere and it's okay with me, but I was wondering exactly what that means because I have a lot of pictures on wikipedia and I am wondering if others should be moved or . . .what? Anyway, you seem rather busy, but I was just wondering. Carptrash 08:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Reflist edits

I apologize for the Boeing 767 edit. I was just doing that for readability and used the wrong edit summary. As for switching hard-code to the template, the advantages are discussed on the templates page, here and respective talk page here. The big advantage is, if there become more sources in the future, it is easy to switch to a multicolumn format. Also, of course, since it is one universal, protected template, if it is decided all the formats for notes should be changed, it is very easy to make the change universally. My apoligies again for the mistake. I will be more careful from here on out. --Anthony5429 09:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Comment

Please do not accuse me of ad hominem attack on that talk page because that simply wasn't true. I would like to point out that you are frequently posting in capital letters and overemphasized text, which is normally interpreted as a hostile tone. If that is what you intended, you are violating WP:CIVIL. Now I simply do not want to argue this. I have contributed hundreds (or thousands) of images that no one else knows how to do. I consider that a valuable contribution to the WTCP, but I am fed up with this belittling attitude I keep receiving from you. I am going to quit editing on Wikipedia from now on. Good kitty 00:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

A request

If you have the time, could you possibly make an infobox for the articles like [[Effects of Hurricane XX in YY]]? The format I envision is to be similar to the Infobox Hurricane-

• Hurricane XX
• Image
• Image caption
• Date(s) affected
• Highest winds
• Highest rainfall
• Fatalities
• Damages
• Part of [[Hurricane XX]]

No SSHS category would be needed at the top. I'm not sure about areas affected, but most likely it should be left out.

Also (sorry if this asking too much), could you make two others? One would be for the Meteorological history of XX, which would be a simpler version of the above.

• Hurricane XX
• SSHS category
• Image
• Image caption
• Formed
• Dissipated
• Highest winds
• Lowest pressure
• Part of Hurricane XX

The other is for List of XXX hurricanes, which would be based off of the seasonal template.

• Name
• Image (preferably a track map, but that would be on you :P )
• Image caption
• First storm
• Last storm
• Earliest storm
• Latest storm
• Strongest storm
• Total storms
• Total landfalling storms
• Total fatalities
• Total damages

I would try myself, but I'm horrible with the template stuff. Thanks if you can do this. Hurricanehink (talk) 17:16, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Moving images to commons

Hi.. I'd actually like to move all images in Category:Maps of Dallas, Texas to the Commons. Is there a way that I can do it myself? drumguy8800 C T 21:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I created all the images so they're already saved off :D. Thanks. drumguy8800 C T 21:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Please ask questions before tagging

Can I suggest that you ask questions before you tag any image as being a candidate for Commons ... if you had asked a question of the author you would have learned – politely and quickly – that I am in the process of transwikying about 200 images including this one [[Image:Looking down upon Tooma.jpg]] (that you appear to have stumbled upon). --VS ^{talk...images} 01:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Image talk:Ofc Briggs.jpg

No free image of this person exists on the internet and the person in question has since been deasced and thus the counterexample is invalid. And as for the Micheal Addison it doesnt matter if the person is alive and all the images on the internet of him are from press or the police department and i dont think that ordanary people are allowed to take pictures of him during the trial and altering police or press photographs are not allowed. Storm05 12:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Uh im waiting for a response. Storm05 15:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

archives and nexrad

Hi. May I suggest you archive your talk page sometime today, as it is almost 100 sections long, potentially currently one of the longest talk pages on wiki. Also, I see you're an admin now, so if you have any time left, could either you or Cyclone1 please complete the NEXRAD request sometime in 2007? I've set it for a few months later, because wikipedia has almost no deadlines. Just in case I'm no longer on wikipedia at that time, it would be useful for one of those tornado outbreak articles, because you never know, almost anything could happen to your editing patterns after being on wiki for a year, which I have not yet done so. Anyway, I have to fix my talk page too. Thanks. AstroHurricane001^{(Talk+Contribs+Ubx)} 22:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

ReqPhoto

Could you look at Talk:Church of Saint George#Photo? --evrik ^(talk) 17:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

• Sorry, I thought you had contributed photos that were in Israel on the commons. --evrik ^(talk) 17:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
• thanks again. --evrik ^(talk) 17:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Dead links

Yahoo News may be a poor place to link to but the underlying story was real and was produced by a reliable news source, so the deadlink is irrelevant. If all else fails you should keep the reference data but drop the actual link.

That's ridiculous: I could claim anything I like, make up a fake Yahoo News link as my reference, and keep my false information by pretending it's merely an expired link and not a false one. There's no way something that unreliable can trump basic WP:ATTRIBUTION policy: if the information is unconfirmable by the reader, how the hell can it be any good as a reference? --Calton | Talk 00:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

"Good faith" is a complete non-issue, actual verifiability is. Kinda the point of HAVING a attribution/reliable sources/verifiability policy.

all you would need to do is go locate the edition of the paper that was published in.... Cool. Where can I pick up a copy of Yahoo News? My local newsstand doesn't seem to carry it. (Also, you will note that wire-service material of headline news is often NOT -- probably normally not -- published in the print editions, so there's no "edition" to find it in.) --Calton | Talk 00:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

It's really not that hard to find an alternate source for AP articles. I was drawn here by the one you deleted regarding Harry Reid.[6] Google finds this, which lists several blog sources which include excerpts. Googling on any of those excerpts brings you to originals from USA Today & the SF Chronicle[7]. Different headline, same content, as is common with wire service stories. So, in fact, the dead link was quite useful. While you may not wish to take the effort to find an alternate source, at least don't purge the information required for others to do so. Derex 00:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Yahoo News tends to carry newswire and syndicated content, the source and date of which is usually given in the URL – e.g. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061221/ap_on_re_us/marines_haditha is an Associated Press story of 21 December 2006 (reverse date format). Therefore if you have access to the AP database, or an external archive such as Factiva, ProQuest or Lexis-Nexis, you can almost always find the article, plus of course any other publications that have run the same piece. -- ChrisO 01:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Lists of country-related topics

I am asking here because you nominated the precedent at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Brazil-related topics. By the reasoning in those arguments, everything in Category:Lists of topics by country should go. Are you going to do a bulk nomination for consistency? –Pomte 04:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Australian category scales

I'm quite concerned about using the SSHS category used for the Template:Infobox hurricane small template for Australian cyclones. It's not the official scale used, and the Bureau of Meteorology doesn't use it. There should definitely be an Australian category put in the template somewhere, using the data obtained from BOM. Maybe you can find a solution to this, because this just isn't right..... RaNdOm26 08:06, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Just a thought about using the category number in the title. I was thinking of putting the cat number in brackets and in small letters. The official name for a cyclone is not "Category 4 Severe Tropical Cyclone George" but just "Severe Tropical Cyclone George". Putting the category number in front makes the title a little too long. My suggestion may look something like this.....

Duration	Unknown – Unknown
Peak intensity	Winds not specified;

What do you think?? RaNdOm26 01:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Progressive JPEGs

So, who did we need to poke when a JPEG needed fixing? :P Titoxd^{(?!? – cool stuff)} 06:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Nina Newspaper Article

Hello, Nilfanion. I'm currently in a bit of a predicament, and I wonder if you can help me out. I'm currently working on an article for Hurricane Nina of 1957 and I'm searching for an infobox picture. Right now, I've found a damage pic from the hurricane, but it's on a newspaper (http://www.thehurricanearchive.com/Viewer.aspx?img=31125836&firstvisit=true&currentResult=2&currentPage=10), making it unusable. Hink thought of copying the whole article, then uploading it under fair use, but we're unsure if that'd work. Can you help find the best method to clearing this up? User:Jake52 My talk 21:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Ejaculation

OK, thanks for the heads up – to me the the image borders on pornography, and although that in itself doesn't bother me, it doesn't seem appropriate for an encyclopaedia – if necessary, I'll restore, but for the moment I'll wait and see. jimfbleak 20:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank You

Regardless of how you got the File:Ejaculation sample.jpg removed. I thank you. I have watched the fiasco for months as basically one person stalled or subverted all reasonable attempts to make the page more appropriately encyclopedic.

I do ask, though, have any of those user's actions been actionable? The childish attempts to impede Wikipedia progress by Atom have left me fairly disgruntled towards the entire process. Time and time again he went against consensus to do what he wanted and slandered other people as religious zealots if they defied him. I have witnessed several things set forth by this user where he has attempted to deride the process and declare imminent domain for himself. At the time when I was involved with the discussions he literally tagged the discussion with a label saying it was against Wikipedia policy to discuss the image, threating action if you did so. Looking at the talk pages of users who came after me, he attempted to "welcome" them and cite rules on how they weren't allowed to edit the image out of the page, which always struck me as an attempt to impersonate an administrator. All in all, this user single handedly has disgusted me and possibly others at Wikipedia.

I am eager to see this user prevented from doing similar things in he future. He seems to have a reputation for doing such things, and it dumbfounds me to consider that this has been tolerated. If I have to charge against him in some WP:* process myself, I think I can now be motived to do so, but I have no idea where to start or how to formulate it in such a way as to not easily dismissed as personal grievance. Atom has intentionally moved against the Wikipedia process and users in the pursuit of a personal agenda, and I feel, damaging Wikipedia and its reputation in the process. Please respond. -- jsa 02:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I will abstain at this time, as this is something I would feel more comfortable moving knowingly into with managed support. Doesn't calling everyone a bible thumper (not the exact words) violate WP:Civility though? Look over the discussions, especially in the archives. -- jsa 00:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, while on or about the subject. Would it be possibly to discover if User:Trevor100a and User:Atomaton post from the same IP? Trevor100a is a long suspected sock by several people, but all evidence thus far is circumstantial. -- jsa 06:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Atomaton

At this point, I would have to ask what actions can be taken now to prevent Atom from continuing to engage in his edit waring. Over the weekend the image was restored, and in a much predictable way, Atom reverted the edits to the page and reinserted his pet image, declaring consensus for himself. At this point, it strikes me strongly that he is in violation of WP:3RR, specifically 3RR_is_not_an_entitlement in that his persistent reverts and unwillingness to compromise show an unwillingness to actually abide by the rules and procedures of Wikipedia unless that serve his own end. For the record, he does not technically break the 3RR directly, instead spreading them out once or twice a day, and having other "pet" Wikipedians do it for him if necessary.

Note: Atom typically counts reversions by outside editors of Anonymous IP edits that remove the picture outright as votes for consensus in his favor.

I do not know how to use the Wikipedia email system, but if you don't mind, please respond to me through it. -- jsa 02:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

PNGs

Ask Nichalp, he is the one who requested that. Titoxd^{(?!? – cool stuff)} 22:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Imagery

Thanks for the posts. My replies:

1. gif may not necessarily be deleted due to licensing concerns -- specifically, what sort of licencing concerns are there?
2. I would disagree with keeping gifs even though the quality hasn't changed. There is a specific category (commons:Category:Images with inappropriate GIF format) for such images in commons.
3. Regarding storage concerns: I've never come across any concerns about wikipedia running out of space if a duplicate is 'deleted'. I know deleted media are archived but that would apply to all deleted images. IMO, the same concern should apply to newly created vector graphics.
4. As for uploading the en version of the image to commons:, I don't know how useful it will be. That's why I also created a blank image for purposes of localisation into respective wikipedias. There's no set policy in commons on text in images.
5. Thanks for the info on plain svg vs inkscape svg. Quite a useful tip. :)

Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Newsletter

Worst newsletter ever! I can't believe you would make a mockery of Coredesat like that by comparing him to a hurricane! Hurricanes kill people! I think I hate you... (April fools, that was the best newsletter I've ever read! ;) Keep it up!) →Cyclone1→ 16:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Lol, what that a joke? I immediately figured there can't be a hurricane will because there never was one and the season hans't even started. Besides, all the cyclone links to wikipedia pages and all the user links to cyclone pages. Was the whole thing a joke, or is there a bit of true info in it? Also, you rarely ever give a letter on the firstday of month, is there another letter this month? Thanks. AstroHurricane001^{(Talk+Contribs+Ubx)} 17:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

BTW plz archive your page! It's long! Thanks! AstroHurricane001^{(Talk+Contribs+Ubx)} 17:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

hi there Nilfanion

hi nilfanion i am just leaving freindly comments on people's disscusions because i thought it would be nice. If you want to leave a comment please use my link. By the way i like how you give articles on storms and things it must really help how people understand the weather!--WOW Teeandbee77 22:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Subpage

Thanks, and this is confirming that I did indeed request those deletions. Hurricanehink (talk) 22:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

ITU

Must have got lost in the middle of a backlog – I didn't realize there was a disagreement about what went where. Natalie 22:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

info for the Bhola cyclone article or related article

First, here's where you can take your pick of cyclone shelter images: http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-20,GGLG:en&q=bangladesh%20cyclone%20shelter&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi Margie 01:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Below is the text from the Bangladesh Observer article from June 30 2006 that is no longer available on the web (I saved an archive web page) regarding the deterioration of the cylcone shelters that were built many years ago. You have to make some allowance for the English translation. Margie 01:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

About 50 cyclone shelters now collapsible anytime

From Our Correspondent

LAXMIPUR, June 29:—More than 50 cyclone shelters are now collapsible in Laxmipur and the may cause havoc at any moment. One of them already has collapsed and another one collapsible. The cyclone shelters were built in 1972 to 1974 and since then there has been almost no repair nor any white washing done on them.

As a result, majority portion of plasters and in some of them ce­ment. Concrete (CC) works are dismantling resulting in iron rods in them keep hanging since long.

The rods are already worn out and have become at most distem­pered. In such conditions the people of the shelter areas remain always in fear that the shelters may col­lapse and play havoc at any mo­ment.

In such conditions prevail in the coming monsoon no sensible person will enter these shelters for safety. Rather the shelters have became headache for the people of these areas some elite and many com­moners of the areas viewed.

The cyclone shelters are located at various coastal areas under Ramgati Sadar and Raipur upazilas like Matir hat, Char Kalkini, Char Alexander and Char Falcon of un­der Ramgati upazila.

About ten (10) cyclone shelters in Sebagram, Raghunathpur, Barakheri have already collapsed and gone into the Meghna river. The Matirhat Cyclone Shelter is also on the berse of collapse.

If such collapse occurs a pri­mary school, and many shops in the vicinity of the shelter may also collapse, initiating life risks.

In addition more 15 cyclone shelters on the coast of the Meghna river under Sadar and Ramgati are also on the berse of collapsing. The other cyclone shel­ters in the interior of Sadar and Raipur upazilas have also become cracked as these were built under some political influence showing cyclone shelters cum school.

The cyclone shelters will be playing as death traps at the time of necessity instead of being used for safety viewed the elite of the locality.

On the other hand, the areas like Barakheri, Sebagram and Raghunathpur where the cyclone shelters collapsed long ago due to river erosion which are not rebuild as yet.

Moreover the Char Megha, South, North and Central Char Ramani Mohan where new char areas emerged later on, they have no Cyclone Shelters built up as yet.

As such the people of these char areas remain at risk of being washed away if any flood or cy­clone hit the places during coming monsoon. The people of the areas would urged the authority concerned to look into the matter before the situation goes out of control.

1970 North Indian Ocean cyclone season

On 19 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 1970 North Indian Ocean cyclone season, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 05:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)