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Nomination of Stefan Stojanović (footballer born 1992) for deletion

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Nomination of Saša Blagojević for deletion

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Nomination of Milan Vukašinović for deletion

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ABA Liga Category

Hi! I'm just dropping by to let you know about the new user category I think you might be interested in joining, ABA Liga supporters. Keep up the good work with your basketball-related contributions! --OxymoronNBG (talk) 21:42, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

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Results

Hello Nightfall. You recently updated the Serbian election results, but left the results table source to the original B92 source. Where did you get the updated results from? Cheers, Number 57 19:09, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

My bad, I have added source to most current official results by republican electorial Commission. Cheers. Nightfall87 (talk) 19:17, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Live updates

Hi.

Please do not update statistics or scores while a match is in progress. Instead, wait until the match has finished before updating. At WikiProject Football there is a consensus not to add live scores and also a consensus not to update any statistics while a match is in progress. Without live updates it is easier to avoid duplicate information and errors from being published on the article.

Please keep this in mind. Thank you. Qed237 (talk) 19:18, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Invite to the African Destubathon

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Pitanje

Voleo bih da znam jedan odgovor. Koliko zaista misliš da se posvetiš listi transfera koju si napravio? Pitam iz prostog razloga što nema svrhe nabacati sve ovo, ako ne postoji volja da se sekcije popune na pravi način. Znam da je najlakše napraviti klicu artikla pa da to neko drugi popunjava, ali ja sam iz praktičnih razloga prestao to da radim. Očekivao sam da će neko da uradi nešto slično, ali sam svakako uradio sandbox gde je već napakovan određen broj transfera. I iskreno gledano, sve me je manje briga za to kako će večiti da posluju sve dok se Evropi ne uradi nešto značajnije. Ovakve liste u principu i ne postoje zbog večitih, jer oni obično to imaju kroz podkategorije u pregledu sezone, već upravo zbog ovih manjih klubova da bismo koliko-toliko posvetili pažnju i njima. Zato i postavljam ovo pitanje, jer znam koliko se nas dvojica-trojica trudimo da sve to raščlanimo i doteramo, dok pojedinci prekrajaju kako se njima sviđa. Motivacija od roka do roka sve više slabi svima nama, a još ako nikoga nije briga, onda tek nema svrhe raditi ovo. Svi smo mi videli da je mali Bleki prešao na "Čizmu", ali prelazni rok još uvek zvanično nije počeo. Staviti na listu Temnić, pa čak i PLS uopšte, nema svrhe ako će te sekcije ostati prazne. Ja sam to prošle godine uradio jer svake srede izlaze zvanični dokumenti iz FSS-a, gde su svi transferi proknjiženi i to je jedini validan izvor, ali je posao da se sve to ubaci ovde ogroman. Stoga ako imaš želju da ovo izguraš do kraja, ili da bar učestvuješ, slobodno mi piši. Niko nas ne prisiljava naravno, nas dvojica-trojica izginemo sa ovim listama za svaku polu-sezonu, ali me boli kada neko nešto prekraja bez naročitog razloga, već iz hira ili neke lične sujete. Ništa lično, napominjem samo zato što se nadam da kao jedan od iskusnijih ovde znaš na šta mislim. Lotom (talk) 14:09, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Evo, baš sam i planirao da ti napišem. Pazi ovako, fora je da se igrači do 20 godina u srpskoj ligi i zoni računaju kao bonusi i svi klubovi su u obavezi da u prvom poluvremenu imaju dva takva igrača na terenu. U SuperLigi, klubovi u tu B listu mogu da uguraju dosta igrača, s tim što bi oni valjda trebalo da budu omladinci, ili igrači ponikli u klubu do 21 godine starosti. U Evropi, igrači koji su ponikli su klubu (mislim da moraju da imaju staž od minimum tri godine) računaju se u B listu i mislim da je ograničenje u godinama isto do 21. Koliko sam upoznat, to su kriterijumi za B listu. Trebalo bi da svi oni u tom slučaju idu u B listu, ali su na klupskom sajtu dodati u prvi tim, a i imaju već određeni seniorski staž u Zvezdi. Luka Ilić je i prošle sezone trenirao sa prvim timom, ali je njegov mlađi brat Ivan pre njega dobio priliku da debituje. Dalje, svaki od ostalih igrača u ovoj B sekciji ima neku foru. Ovi sa brojevima su bili licencirani u prethodnoj sezoni. Stojanović je igrao za prvi tim protiv Radnika u Surdulici. Mijailović je već duže vreme sa prvim timom, ali mu je istekao ugovor posle pozajmice u Bežaniji. "Na ledu je." Stojić i Maksić su kao omladinci igrali za B tim najviše zbog nedostatka štopera. Panović, Romanić i Senić su bili na dvojnim registracijama, kao i Stanković i Stojanović. Vićić je branio za Kolubaru i Bežaniju tokom prethodne sezone, tako da je u drugom delu sezone bio na klasičnoj pozajmici. Igrač po propisu ima pravo da nastupi za najviše dva kluba u jednoj takmičarskoj sezoni. Senić, iako nije ponikao u klubu, takođe ima nastup za B tim, a još uvek upada u U20 okvir i ima dugoročan ugovor. Nije međutim bio licenciran za SuperLigu, pošto je i on sa OFK-om iskoristio to pravo na dva kluba. Platiša je raskinuo pozajmicu pre kraja sezone i igrao protiv Gračanice. Tada je i Aučo priključen ekipi, ali on zvanično i nije bio igrač Zvezde. Kako je imao problem sa vizom i stigao van prelaznog roka, formalno je potpisao sa OFK-om na 6 meseci. Mitrev je u Makedoniji već igrao seniorski fudbal, '99 je i igra za omladince. Svi ostali klinci iz ove sekcije su bili priključeni treninzima prvom tima kao stipendisti ili profi igrači. U sekciji ostali sam ubacio povratnike sa pozajmica i čuvene fantome koji su ili pod ugovorom ili su im papiri još uvek u klubu. Ovaj Miloš Vukić je, kao nekada Igor Mijović, već godinama u klubu, mada mislim da mu je sada istekao ugovor. Jovović je licenciran, tako da ne može ni u jednu sekciju sem prvog tima, pošto je za B listu mator. Zé Marcos je najavljen kao zalog za budućnost, te ga vodeći se tom logikom stavljam među ostale. Za omladince neće moći da igra jer je '98, pa je tu kategoriju prerastao. Babić i Jovičić će biti licencirani sigurno, tako da nema potrebe za odvajamo bilo šta kada je rok za prijavu do večeras, ukoliko se ne varam. Imaćemo pravo na jednog dodatnog igrača 48 sati pred utakmicu. Sve ovo ovako razvrstavam iz jednog veoma prostog razloga. Imamo previše igrača pod ugovorima i ako želimo da imamo bilo kakvu predstavu o tome gde se nalaze, logično je da ih negde ubacimo. Lično mi se to gomilanje ni malo ne sviđa, ali je to boljka koja nas prati godinama. Lotom (talk) 16:20, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Mislim, što se mene tiče, možeš sve ovo da prebrišeš ukoliko želiš, ali mislim da ni to nije najsrećnije rešenje. Sve su to članovi kluba, ili igrači pod nekom vrstom ugovora. Prelazni rok je u toku i to će se verovatno najvećim delom raščistiti. Mnogi će na pozajmice, neki će dobiti papire. Draško Đorđević, recimo, ima dugoročan ugovor, ali i ozbiljan prelom noge koji je zaradio u OFK-i i on do zime vrlo verovatno neće igrati fudbal. Moram i da te pohvalim za odlično odrađen pregled sezone i redovno ažuriranje. Lotom (talk) 16:32, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Nema šanse, nećemo mi taj kriterijum moći da pronađemo nikad, bojim se. Takvo je celokupno stanje u našem fudbalu, jedino što nas u poslednje dve sezone bar savez pokriva zvaničnom dokumentacijom. Sve što možemo je da se ovako izdogovaramo ovako međusobno, pa da vidimo kako ćemo to da napravimo. Možda nije loše da sakrijemo te sekcije. Počeo sam ja bio nešto da radim ove sezone koje fale, ali nikako da završim to do kraja. Lotom (talk) 17:30, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Je l' ovo u pitanju? Daj onda da vratimo i Miloševića, Andriju Lukovića, malog Stankovića, pa i Pavkova. Čoveče, je l' ti i dalje odbijaš da prihvatiš da smo ažurniji od svih sajtova naših klubova zajedno. Ako pogledaš Ivanovu stranu, videćeš da je već bio izlistan sa seniorima, ukoliko se ne sećaš. Uostalom, ima klauzulu po kojoj mora da nastupi za prvi tim. Drugo, daj da onda Luku vratimo u B listu, jer ima pravo na još godinu dana sa omladincima. Vidiš da sam ubacio izvore svuda, baš zbog ovih koji misle da znaju bolje. Pouzdano znam da se itekako obraća pažnja na ovo što pišemo i drago mi je zbog toga. Ako ćemo "da ga merimo" na ovaj način, ja sam onda van. Daj neki predlog kako ti misliš da je najbolje pa neka bude tako. Celog dana krpim i vraćam vandalizme i stvarno nemam snage za besmislene rasprave. Možda deluje drsko, ali mi je neverovatno glupo da ratujemo oko banalnosti. Uzdravlje i izvini ako si se našao uvređenim! Lotom (talk) 18:07, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red World Contest

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2018–19 BiH League

Hi. I have just created the article about this season, following an article in basket.ba with the matches of the first round. It seems that all the teams will join the competition in the regular season, but do you know how will the league work this season? Or if not, where can I take that info for completing/fixing the article? Thank you and cheers. Asturkian (talk) 08:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

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Red Star Belgrade

Why did you remove all the successes of the FK Red Star? Semifinals of Cup Winners' Cup and so on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VucoCar (talk • contribs) 19:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

That wasn't me. Nightfall87 (talk) 19:16, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Lista stranih igraca

Pozdrav brate, nadam se da si dobro i da su tvoja porodica, voljeni i prijatelji svi na broju i svi lepo provodite leto. Vidim da mi menjas i dalje one godine, pa ne secam da li sam ti ikad objasnio razlog i poentu zasto radim te godine drugacije. Stvar je ta da kad sam napravio listu to je bilo 2009. godine, a tada je informacija na internetu bila znatno manja nego sto je danas. Tada sam imao recimo za ceo period od 1923 do 2006 liste samo po sezonama. Recimo, znao sam da su Jia i Liu bili u Partizanu u sezonama 1987/88 i 1988/89 i to je sve. Za razliku od danas, tada je najlogicnije bilo staviti igracima sezone koje su igrali, ako vise od jedne, znaci prvu godinu prve sezone, i zadnju godinu zadnje. Tako smo dosli do Jia & Liu (1987–1989). Tada 2009. mozes da vidis da je proprorcija igraca za koje sam imao informaciju samo po sezonama (recimo i nasi Almanasi su liste pravili po sezonama ne praveci razliku izmedju onih koji su igrali prvi deo ili drugi) bila znatno veca, i zato sam odarao taj sistem upisivanja godina, odnosno, ne godina, vec sezona.

E sad, prosla je cela jedna decenija, sad se vec nakupila vecina za koje imamo tacne podatke koje su polusezone igrali. Ali ja sam nastavio sa starim sistemom, uspisujem sezonu, ne kalendarsku godinu, jer bi menjanje zahtevalo mnostvo izmena i u mnogim slcajevima, istrazivanja. Zato liku koji je igrao prolece 2018 upisujem (2017–2018) jer je igrao u sezoni 2017/18. Naravno, tu sam i imao fleksibilnost da ne ukljucim celu sezonu igracima koji su recimo igrali samo prve utakmice jedne sezone i onda u toku jos otvorenog prelaznog roka presli u drugi klub, tih par utakmice zadnje sezone nisam naravno upisivao plus jednu godinu samo zato sto je igrao u prve dve utakmice 2017/18 sezone i otisao u toku jos otvorenog letnjeg 2017 prelaznog roka, zakljucivao bih ga sa 2017., naravno ne sa 2018. Ali u ostalim slucajevima sam nastavio sa praksom sezona.

Imam nekako utisak da ako ce mo da menjamo koncept i upisujemo samo godinu polasezone u kojoj je igrao, onda bi to bio veliki posao u kojem bi celoj listi trebalo onda proveriti i uskladiti godine. Ono sto sam ja upisivao su sezone, tako da onima koji su igrali samo polusezonu treba skinuti godinu u kojoj nije igrao. Mozda deluje lako na prvi pogled, ali lista je masivna, treba je znaci celu proveriti a za mnoge igrace iz predhodnih decenija to je nemoguce. Ako hoces, ajde, prihvatam izazov, menjajmo to, ja sam to nekako odlagao jer mi nije delovalo hitno.

Druga stvar vrednu pomena koju sam hteo da ti obrazlozim je ubacivanje Kosova. Stvar je bazicna, posto je ovo en.wiki mene jedino zanima strana svetska percepcija. Ja kako sam odrastao vani u stranom drustvu, cak i imam duplo dravljanstvo pa dodajuci to da sam potpuno uklopljen u kulturu te druge zemlje cije drzavljanstvo posedujem, znam tacno percepciju koju oni imaju. Da uprostim, ja sam cist ponosan srbin, ali kako sam odrastao u stranom drustvu znam tacno da razmisljam iskljucivo kao portugalac, sto je moja druga nacionalnost. Na stranu sto sam ucio i radio uvek u miltinacionalnim ambijentima, zavrsio Spansku srednju pa imam ukoren i spanski mentalitet, itd. Sve druge sem srpske se podudaraju u utisku da ako izostavimo Kosovo jedini zakljucak ogromne vecine ce biti da znaci igraci iz Kosova su igrali u raznoraznim ligama (posto ih ima na listama) a da kod nas znaci NISU. Veruj mi da sve to sto mi mislimo da ceo svet zna tipa parole "Kosovo is Serbia" i memes i sve, to sve pada u zaborav kad neko gleda listu i vidi da Kosovo fali. Nece se maltretirati uopste intelektualno vise od toga sem podsvesnog zakljucka da znaci u Srbiji nije bilo nikada igraca sa Kosova. To krajnje nama ne ide uopste u korist jer mi zelimo da dokazemo nas uticaj i vezanost sa Kosovom, da bi legitimisali nase pravo na njega, a dajuci signal strancima da nije bilo kosovskih igraca u Srbiji (a njih bas ima svigde) samo im daje obrnutu poruku.

Tu je jedan zaista komplikovan politicki cvor, u kojem kad se fudbala tice, mi smo nazalost igubili kad se Kosovo prihvatilo kao clan FIFE i UEFE. Mi smo uvek bili nazalost narod sklon da pisemo i citamo samo ono sto volimo a za realpolitiku smo uvek bili totalna nula. Mogu Zurnal i ostali nasi mediji da pisu koliko hoce "tzv. Kosovo" kad govore o njihovoj reprezentaciji, ligi ili timu, ali conjenica (za svet) je da su oni postali jednak clan kao i svi drugi i to pod imenom "Kosovo", a ne "tkz. Kosovo" ili sta vec... Borba je bila spreciti njihov prijem, a sad kad smo izgubili, ne prihvatajuci odluku samo sami sebi pravimo problem i zavaravamo se. Da tragedija bude manja, nisu sve clanice FIFE i UEFE clanovi UN, to je potpuno apsurdan argument kojeg se nas tim drzao i zbog kojeg su izgubili, jer da su imali iole mozga mogli su da vide na desetine reprezentacija sa svih delova sveta koje nisu nezavosne zemlje niti clanice UN, a imaju reprezentaciju (od Engleske, Farskih ostrva, Gibraltara, Perto Rika, USA Virgin Islands, UK Virgin Islands, Comoros (ciji je Ben koji su deo Francuske), itd. Postoje mnoge reprezentacije cije su teritorije deo druge drzave pa svejedno igraju kao reprezentacija u fudbalu. Nasi iz FSS su toliko glupo se uhvatili samo tog argumenta da su samo pokazali nesposobnost i glupocu i naravno da je odluka doneta protiv nas kad nas toliko glupi ljudi predstavljaju. FIFI i UEFI je dovoljno bilo da obrazloze kosovski specifican politicki status prema kojem oni traze da im se dopusti da igraju fudbal na profesionalnosm i medjunarodnom nivou bez da moraju da cekaju decenijama da se krajnji politicki status resi. Mi nismo imali adekvatan odgovor na to, nismo uspeli da ubedimo, a kamoli dokazemo, FIFU i UEFU da oni mogu da igraju u nasem fudbalskom sistemu bez ikakvih problema.

Nepravedno? Jeste. Da ni oni svi nisu mutavi i da znaju da sport utice i te kako na stvaranje nacionalnog identiteta i jaca separatizam u slucajevima kao ovaj? Kako da ne. Ali ja ne znam sta je FSS i nas pravni tim (valjda ga imaju) sta su radili, sta su argumentovali da ubede druge zemlje da je bolje da ne dozvole Kosovu da nastupa nezavisno vec da je bolje da udju u tokove naseg fudbalskog sistema? Sta su uradili po tom pitanju i da li su dali ijedan argument koji bi mogao da pomogne ovom kljucnom pitanju? Koliko ja znam, NISTA. Oni su se samo drzali toga da Kosovo nema UN priznanje i kao takvo kosovska reprezentacija, liga, treba da budu ignorisane. Izvini, ali to je jasno nas totalni promasaj.

E sad, da mi sami sebi nalazimo utehu u ignorisanju Kosova i spominjanju ga kao "tzv. Kosovo" nesto sto samo mi u Srbiji znamo sta znaci, to je za svet i za en.wiki jedno veliko NISTA. Kosovosko priznanje se nece izbrisati u skorijem vremenu i oni ce se takmiciti sigurno barem u bliskoj buducnosti. Mi mozemo da izbrisemo Kosovo i da se pravimo da kao ne postoje, ali rezultat toga je samo taj da ce prosecan citalac kad vidi liste zakljuciti da kosovski igraci se razvijaju u Albaniji i drugim zemljama, a da u Srbiji ih nema. To nipocemu nece dati nikakvu indikaciju da je Kosovo srpsko, samo naprotiv, udaljice nas, i kad neko bude pitao "Sta, Srbija tvrdi da je Kosovo deo njihove teritorije? Kako to? Pa nijedan igrac sa Kosova uopste tamo nije ni igrao." Mozda ovaj monolog zvuci smesno, ali ljudska psiha mladih u danasnjici zaista tako bazicno funkcionise. Jos doprinosimo njihovom argumentu kako nisu jadni mogli da igraju u nasim ligama (sto je laz). Tako da bolje da okrenemo skroz stranu i pokazemo svetu koliko igraca albanaca sa Kosova je izgradilo karijeru kod nas i igrali bez problema, stavise, ja bi napravio i clanak specificno o igracima sa Kosova i uticaj igranja u srpskim klubovima u njihovim karijerama. Vec sam puno ispisao, necu da ti dosadjujem, ali barem da objasnim neka moja opredeljenja vezana za listu koja sigurno deluju nelogicna na prvi pogled. FkpCascais (talk) 20:30, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

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With the links, please keep adding them if it suits you. Could you carry on working up from the bottom and I'll do a few more working down from the top, and if we save and check after each country or two, hopefully we will meet in the middle without going over each others edits, and it will be all finished quite soon. B-) Crowsus (talk) 20:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Crowsus: that should be it, good job :) Nightfall87 (talk) 21:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Wow great stuff! Crowsus (talk) 21:35, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

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Hi @Sakiv: You are probably thinking about disciplinary actions history that I removed from latest Serbia vs Turkey fixture? If that's so I removed them because they were never shown on any of results summary pages for previous decades (as you can see here, here and here). So in order to keep them consistent I removed them from this fixture. Nightfall87 (talk) 13:48, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I understand your point of view, but the template is dedicated to this particular thing, and we have to give the reader every piece of information that's useful. The lack of such information in the past does not prevent us from using it at this time. Thanks--Sakiv (talk) 16:14, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@Sakiv: It's not that this data is no longer available for older fixtures, I'm more on the side of argument that data about yellow and red card is not relevant to this kind of templates. Even paramethers that you used to display them are called goals1 and goals2. Or if we use FIFA World Cup as an example you can see that on the pages where this template is used cards are not being shown (here), while on pages where additional info about games are being shown different template was used to display them (for example here). Again, I don't say either including or removing them is right or wrong. I'm just conserned about consistency wherever this template is being used. If you want you could start discussion about this on template talk page. Nightfall87 (talk) 20:26, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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Red Star Belgrade in European football

Izvini ali neki izgleda Hrvat 91.191.37.22 je unistio ovu gore stranicu u naslovu "Red Star Belgrade in European football" i sve izmenjao. Nema vise ni one trake srebrne za finala i zlatne za osvojen trofej. Svaka cast za posao koji nije lako odraditi. Pohvala. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VucoKralj (talk • contribs) 17:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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Zvezda je upravo osvojila 59 domaci trofej i 32 titulu prvaka a ne 58 i 31. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VucoKralj (talk • contribs) 19:16, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

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It was done by one IP, but still thank you. Theonewithreason (talk) 8 August 2021 (UTC

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Hey, when a Serbian player has won a medal in water polo and there is a specific category saying "Olympic (medal) medalists for Serbia in water polo", then he does not need to be in the wider "Olympic water polo players of Serbia" as the former is a subcat of the second one. Kante4 (talk) 16:39, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

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An article you recently created, Filip Damjanović, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) WP:NFOOTY is no longer a valid SNG, so GNG must be met. It needs several refs from independent, reliable, secondary sources to pass WP:GNG. It should have at least 3 of those. Please remember that routine sports coverage does not satisfy GNG, and that interviews, being primary sources, do not go to notability either. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:56, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Nikola Knežević

Hi! I'm wondering if the article would pass WP:GNG? Pelmeen10 (talk) 14:18, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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North8000 (talk) 20:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi mate. Thanks for the heads-up. I honestly forgot to update this article, it was not explosion of fuel tank as it was initially suspected. Instead it was a explosive attack, landlord activated few KGs of explosives in an attempt to kill tennents that he was unable to vacate from his appartment for a few years. Blowing himself in process, severly injuring two of them and causing severe damage to the entire building. If I rework the article and add these changes would that affect it's notability? Nightfall87 (talk) 23:46, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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