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Proposed deletion of Teddy Baubigny

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Proposed deletion of Bridge Ndilu

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Ways to improve E il Casanova di Fellini?

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Thank you for creating E il Casanova di Fellini?.

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Thanks for your suggestions Abishe, I'll look into that as soon as I have the time! --Nico (talk) 17:59, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion about René Marić

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Elsa la rose moved to draftspace

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@Killarnee: please consider the presence of a template such as "in creation" before you move someone's page to draft... --Coco (talk) 21:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's exactly why I moved the page... --Killarnee (T•1•2) 21:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Killarnee: Please read it better then, "To help avoid edit conflicts and other confusion, the creator asks that for a short time this page not be edited unnecessarily, or nominated for deletion during this early stage of development". Moving a page in draft at this stage is only wasting everybody's time. --Coco (talk) 21:45, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Killarnee: The history of my draft is literally just me creating the page. There is no issue as far as I'm concerned. Sure it would have been better to move the Draft, my bad, I didn't think of it, but come on... --Coco (talk) 21:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Bridge Ndilu for deletion

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Nomination of Ilaix Moriba for deletion

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Paolo Garbisi

Hi @Cocô53:, I have moved your page Paolo Garbisi to a Draft page as the player does not qualify for WP:NRU. The player hasn't played in any professional league (The Italian league is not a professional league as listed by Wikipedia), or represented the Italian national team in 15-a-side or Sevens. There is not enough significant coverage of this player that is reliable, secondary and independent of the subject for it to be classified as notable, and the common consensus on players has been the WP:NRU overrides WP:GNG in most cases. Thanks. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 11:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I understand that the player doesn't reach WP:NRU, although Italy's top tier not being fully professional is debatable, but in my view it clearly reaches WP:GNG, with national sources such as OA Sport or even Onrugby or Allrugby. Therefore I will see another movement to the draft space as quite inappropriate: if you do not agree with what I said above, please lunch an AfD discussion. And not only do I think that there is no consensus on WP:NRU overriding WP:GNG, but that is actually complete nonsense: WP:NRU is only a presumption that WP:GNG has been reached, as is WP:NSPORT (where NRU is included), all this being clearly stated in the mentioned pages. Thank you. --Coco (talk) 13:50, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Cocô53: thanks for your reply, Italy's top tier is not currently listed as a professional league by Wikipedia. If you feel that is incorrect please feel free to bring it up on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union. Still I believe that there is not enough significant coverage for the player to be notable. The sources you've listed tend to relate to him playing for Italy U20 or from joining Benetton. Players who play at U20 level don't qualify for notability. Many of these sources are also primary sources from the clubs he plays for/has played for and so are not independent. I believe that WP:NSPORT was brought in to work alongside WP:GNG because otherwise you could create a wikipedia article about literally anybody mentioned in a news article. By leaving as a draft page also it gives the ability to move to a full page once he plays a professional game and I don't want to flag it for deletion as this may well happen. Thanks. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 14:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rugbyfan22: Yes, I might soon try to see if Top12 shouldn't be included in the fully professional league here, but it is not relevant for what I'm trying to say. WP:GNG really does not say "create a wikipedia article about literally anybody mentioned in a news article" and you should really read it again if you think that it says that : it actually states that a topic is notable if it "has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", which is clearly not the same. All the words in these sentence are clearly defined, and here for Garbisi we have a few sources fitting this quite complete definition, such as this one or this other one (and actually even only one of such sources would be notable). Those secondary sources are clearly focused on the player globally, and it is by no mean just a trivial mention of the player.

So really moving the page to the draft space leaving a redirection in the main one does not make any sense. Either we keep the page either you start an AfD (and in both cases that doesn't mean the page can also be preserved in the draft space), but what you are doing is clearly not appropriate. Speedy deletions or other similar processes such as yours are legitimate only if there is a clear consensus. That is very clearly not the case. The only way it can be determined if those sources really don't fit into WP:GNG (which I don't believe) is through a proper AfD discussion. Thanks. p.s.: you don't need to notify me here, when you write on a user page it automatically notifies him. --Coco (talk) 13:42, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For me the player still does not receive enough 'significant coverage'. I guess it depends on a person's definition of significant coverage which isn't clearly defined. For me I still have a slight issue with these sources as I'm not sure how reliable they are. I fully understand why you feel it is acceptable under WP:GNG but I feel that by allowing pages like this with 'weak' sources you could still literally allow articles about anybody that has played a game of rugby. I am going to AfD the page with the view that it is WP:TOOSOON and should be Draftied as it's a very well written page, but I fully understand your difference of opinion. I'm also going to tidy up the page as there are some errors in translation in it now. Thanks. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 14:26, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks for understanding, I'll answer you more deeply directly in the AfD page. In the meantime of course feel free to improve the article! Sincerly, --Coco (talk) 14:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Paolo Garbisi for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Abdelmalek Amara

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@Amkgp: Sorry but I really cannot understand how you SD request could be done in good fait... --Coco (talk) 06:47, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cocô53, You have contested and presented your arguments. Wait for a reviewer or admin to take the decision. Removing speedy delete by the creator itself is considered a form of WP:Vandalism. See Wikipedia:Field_guide_to_proper_speedy_deletion#General_basics_about_speedy_deletion last para that clearly mentions It is also strongly recommended that you leave a message with the article creator when nominating an article for speedy deletion. While the author is not to remove the tag, they may be able to solve the problem or explain why the deletion would be improper by explaining on the talk page Please be courteous – speedy deletion can be a tough process for some to swallow ~ Amkgp 💬 06:55, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Amkgp: Ok, sorry I'm not that familiar with Speedy deletion, and it seemed odd to me that a PROD can be removed by the author, but not a speedy one... Anyway, it has now been properly removed. --Coco (talk) 14:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Ravil Tagir for deletion

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Proposed deletion of Andri Guðjohnsen

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Jean Constantin (songwriter) moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Jean Constantin (songwriter), does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. scope_creep^Talk 20:12, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep: There was already a source from a national french radio, but I also added another, and that is more than enough I think. It can surely still be improved, but it clearly as its place in the main space. --Coco (talk) 02:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Constantin (songwriter) moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Jean Constantin (songwriter), does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. scope_creep^Talk 07:21, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cocô53: Don't keep moving out of draft space into mainspace until another editor has reviewed it Afc. It is insufficiently referenced for a WP:BLP. scope_creep^Talk 07:23, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep: Please stop moving this article to draft space without any kind of real justification. Please explain precisely why those sources "wouldn't be enough", quoting actual guidelines, otherwise yours is purely disruptive editing. --14:53, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Melvine Malard for deletion

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Matteo Ruggeri

Hi. Could you please stop overwriting my changes Matteo Ruggeri without an explanation? It's rude. Linking "Italian" is WP:Overlinking. The infobox counts league appearances only and Ruggeri has only played in the Champions League. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 22:04, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The page has been live for more than half an hour. You can't keep others from editing for that long. Considers using Wikipedia:Drafts. Robby.is.on (talk) 22:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Robby.is.on: sorry but you are the one who is being very rude: I very clearly put a template to prevent edit conflicts, precisely to avoid this kind of situation were one user cannot contribute without having to choose between one version or another.

In this case I would really warmly recommend to wait until the user as finished the creation before adding your own modification, your way of working is just counter-productive and serves no purpose. I was meaning to add your content to the page but you have to let the opportunity for the other user to contribute without being constantly in an edit conflict. And it was very easy to realize that I was contributing to the page. Plus literally undoing my modification is really frankly quite a bad behavior. That is not a healthy way to contribute. Thank you. --Coco (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you don't publish half-arsed pages next time. It's not reasonable to expect others to hold off editing when the article is in such a poor state. Have a look through my article creations ([1]), the pages were pretty much done when I created them. Robby.is.on (talk) 22:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Robby.is.on: I don't know what you want me to say, I'm very happy for you if you have found what you think is the best way to create articles.

But please be conscious there are other ways to proceed such as mine that are completely legitimate, and the "in creation" precisely serves this purpose, to allow such way to proceed.

You started editing the page 10 minutes after I created it, although everything was indicating that this would create an edit conflict. And your only reaction was to repeat that over and over again, creating more conflicts. The problem is not that there should be only one user editing the page, but is that the way you edited was blatantly useless as I was currently doing the exact same thing you were trying to do. The only thing you did is disrupte the process of editing, making bot of us waste our time in discussions, etc.

So again, I really warmly recommend you to consider what is the best way to help building a page under construction. Thank you. --Coco (talk) 23:02, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Paul Vaurie: Sorry I did not have the time to get into big wp discussions lately, and this issue did not seem excessively urgent. However, when I had a look at it, it appeared the issue was already solved. Anyway, I will try to give you a short answer there now. Cheers, --Coco (talk) 21:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of Giorgi Abuashvili

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Nomination of Lesley Ugochukwu for deletion

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Albert Tjåland

Why on earth has Albert Tjåland’s page got over five references per sentence? NouveauSarfas (Talk page) 12:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Miguel Gutiérrez (footballer)

Hey, do you mind moving this page to Miguel Gutiérrez (footballer, born 2001) or Miguel Gutiérrez (Spanish footballer)? There's also Miguel Gutiérrez (Peruvian footballer) and Miguel Gutiérrez (Mexican footballer), and no PRIMARYTOPIC at this exact moment. Cheers!--Ortizesp (talk) 00:33, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ortizesp: I've cleaned the pages up. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 01:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In creation

Please, remove the template when you are done. Thanks. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 17:21, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nehme1499: sorry I was waiting for an answer here, but ok, I'm gonna remove it now. --Coco (talk) 18:26, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Next time, see WP:REFUND. Also, if an article is being nominated for deletion, you can always copy and paste the article in your sandbox (or create a user sub-page, as I've done in my own sandbox), this way when the player becomes notable you already have the information. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 18:35, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nehme1499: Yes thanks, I know, i'll keep that in mind, even though I usually try to create only articles that reach the criteria. Anyway, in this case, it's not like there was that much content that I lost. --Coco (talk) 19:22, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Ben Lamin

According to both soccerway and national-football-teams, Adam Ben Lamin didnt play for Tunisia in their game vs. Mali. Where do you find this info? --Fredde (talk) 14:14, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El Chadaille Bitshiabu

Hi, there is already Draft:El Chadaille Bitshiabu if you would like to contribute. There is no need to edit User:Cocô53/f2 and change it into Bitshiabu like you did with Artemijus Tutyškinas. Thanks! Kokoeist (talk) 19:13, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Malo Gusto

Hello Coco53... Salut... I like your edits to Malo Gusto, but you need to understand the concept of overlinking. Merci pour votre convivialité. Paul Vaurie (talk) 02:02, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Again, at Yannis M'Bemba. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 15:55, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Cocô53. Please just add whatever content you want to add to Sekou Yansané directly on the article I made at Sekou Yansané. Thanks. Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cocô53: Hey Cocô53, I just saw your message on the history of Sekou Oumar Yansané. There is no need to request a merge, the article can just be quickly redirected. What is on Sekou Oumar Yansané is already on Sekou Yansané. With all objectivity, Sekou Yansané is the correct article title and the page located there is better. Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:29, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Daily Mail reference at Edwin Andersson

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Please don't rename a random draft, rename it and move it to mainspace when you can see there is already a draft in the name of that footballer. You have already did like that with Artemijus Tutyškinas and Warren Zaïre-Emery. And now with Natanas Žebrauskas as well.

Now, I have to request someone to merge these two pages. It is honestly tiring. Hope you can understand. Thanks! Kokoeist (talk) 21:09, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kokoeist: alright, let's be clear: I think that your preemptive systematical creations of drafts are very problematic and are nothing but a way to bypass the notability guidelines, with the sole purpose of then being able to say on your user page that you "created" this article. If everybody acted like you we would have an infinity of u16 academy players having drafts created, with most of them probably never making it to a professional career.

For this specific case, the article I created was already much more complete than yours, with most of the relevant secondary sources, and there was no reason to think your draft was a "better" version to put in the mainspace. Using personal user pages is also a completely valid way to create drafts and publish them.

Asking for a merge doesn't make any sense, and I'm honestly baffled that any administrator would allow you such nonsense. For example with Zaïre-Emery you didn't add the slightest bit of your previous minimalist draft to the then "merged version". Again you only wanted to be able to say "I created this page", which his honestly a quite pointless and problematic behavior in my opinion. Also since, from what I've last seen, the guidelines applied to the football project are the general ones. So either there are enough reliable secondary sources to create an article right away, either there are not, and making a draft just waiting for sources to drop is pointless.

Hope you can move on from this "I want to be identified as the creator of this article at any cost" type of behavior. This is not what brings quality and good collaboration to our project.

Sincerly, --Coco (talk) 21:34, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, it is not about who created the better version. If you actually cared about the project, you wouldn't have to dig in some random page you made in 2021, and rename it. You'd rather contribute to the existing draft. But you did it because, the date will go even before the date in which the draft version was created. So it is clear that who needs to be "identified as the creator" thing.

Second thing, I never said that mine was more complete. I pointed the specific behaviour of yours which is renaming some old pages, when it is obvious that you have seen there is an existing draft version of that footballer. Isn't it easier to contribute to the existing draft and publish it in mainspace? I never claimed that mine should be put on the mainspace instead. Before you accuse me for being problematic, maybe you could see that now a draft page and mainspace article of a single player exists, for which an admin have to spend time and merge the two versions. Hope you gets it! Kokoeist (talk) 22:20, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note of appreciation

Hello! I just wanted to thank you for helping me reviewing one of my latest drafts. I appreciate it!

I thought it wasn't ready to be published yet, but I'm happy that is not the case anymore.

[P.S. Ho notato soltanto ora che potrei scriverti direttamente in italiano... : D In ogni caso, grazie!]

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(talk page stalker) Oltrepier, eh no, you can't talk with him at en.wiki in Italian per WP:ENGLISHPLEASE.

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Two amicable notes

When you create a page on a footballer, you musn't forget to add the year of birth in the short description as I did at Giacomo Faticanti. When you create a page and you manage to write 1500 prose characters within the first seven days, it'd be a shame not nominating the article for WP:DYK (you could publicise your great work at the Main page). Dr Salvus 10:30, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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