User talk:Nichalp/Archive35

Cricketers, Bollywood figures and Religion again

Hello Nichalp. Could you comment at WT:CRIC and WT:INCINE please. I have also noticed it on random other Indian sportspeople and Bollywood personalities. Thanks, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Sikhism article

Hi,

Rama's Arrow and I (and many other users!, especially Rajatjghai), have been working to make the Sikhism article up to a standard that is worthy of being a FA. Please take a look and make your comments on the talk page before we try and go for FA status. Thanks. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I've replied to your comments on Wikipedia:Peer review/Sikhism/archive1. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 17:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Been peeping in off and on for some time. :) Hope to get a bit more regular Chancemill 05:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Usage

Hi Nichalp,

Can you please explain me in short when to use which of the following:

"&mdash",
"&ndash", and
"&minus".

Note:Semicolons deliberately dropped so that they render correctly. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Madame Cama

Thanks for the elegant portrait of Madame Cama. I want to include it in a forthcoming book on Indian Freedom Fighters. Any suggestion ? Regards. --BobClive 07:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Message received with thanks.--BobClive 12:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of cricketers

Hi Nichalp,

I think the box in the lead of List of cricketers is un-encyclopedic as well as a violation of the self-referencing guideline. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 12:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SVG issue

File:Delet.svg

im having problems with svg, not sure if its only in my pc. these two maps are the same, but the first one refuses to rasterize on my pc. even the india svg map doesnt show up. what could be the problem?made a post on meta too --<^PlaneMad|YakYak> 17:54, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dint get you, where the image tag and what bitmap?

nope i drew it in illustrator, but nothings wrong with the svg itself, the left and right thumbnails are the same file uploaded under a different name. the right side works left side doesnt --<^PlaneMad|YakYak> 18:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for ur help. got the issue solved at the commons. can look forward to the state locator maps now --^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 17:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

not sure about the technical details but apparently caused by a bug in the software. luckily got a quick reply on how to fix it[1]. you can now delete this --^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 18:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CfD

Thought you might be interested in this - Aksi_great (talk) 05:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done

हिन्दी में वैधानिक अस्वीकरण

Thanks =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

commons:Template:Nazi_symbol/ta. Man how hard is legal lingo. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 09:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, Nichalp. Will look into them. Don't worry about bothering me, but I reserve the right to disappoint you.

-- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 11:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nichalp,

I have translated the commons equivalent of {{PD-self}}, {{PD-old}}, and {{PD-ineligible}}. I couldn't get why you want me to translate a deprecated tag ({{PD}}). I am working on the others. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nichalp,

Overall, I have made the following templates. Can you please proofread them:

I am not sure how to go about commons:Template:Lueger and whether it is even required at all. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image

Hi Nicholas, maybe you could take a view on this copyvio matter, and also on these two others, and end the issue? Thanx, ImpuMozhi 14:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, kindly consider this. Did you not blow up the website image? Please do that. Regards, ImpuMozhi 15:15, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Welcome to the Politics of India Project! I look forward to working with you.--May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ^{(review me!)} 18:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Railways

We need some way to detail out the railways works. Essentially the next level of detail on the organisational structure Rajat Bhargav

Utility services

Don't you think we should have "Utility services" in Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cities? With a provision that it can be incorporated into other sections like "Administration" , or can be joined with another section like, in case of Kolkata, "Utility services and media".--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but the project page does not have anything about it now. I mean no seperate mention of the need of utilty/civic services.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A token of my respect

On completion of 30,000 edits by me, and having seen several nooks and corners of the Project, I found you really deserving of the award Order of the Upholder of Wiki: presented to you with regards! --Bhadani 08:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My dear Nicholas, this is just a token of my respect for you and your work here. The present by me is very small vis-à-vis your massive contributions and initiatives to make the Project successful, and realize the objectives of the dream of Jimbo Wales (the founder and the president of the Wikimedia Foundation) and his team. Let us continue to build Better than the Best. Regards. --Bhadani 08:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You: Thank you Bhadani for the wonderful gift this Sunday afternoon. Nice to hear from you. :) Regards, =Nichalp & Congrats on 30,000 edits. Almost double of mine. :) =Nichalp

Me: A user's edit count does not reflect on the value of their contributions to Wikipedia! --Bhadani 09:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Football (soccer) FAC

Hello, you objected in the FAC for football (soccer) due to the number of subsections. Do you mean the Laws of the Game section specifically or the article as a whole? I've merged some of the subsections but I was wondering how much further to go with it. Oldelpaso 15:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:RfA

All right...thats fine thanks --Osbus 18:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quiz..

Sorry - was on the phone. - Cribananda 19:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

India locator map blank

Ive, been doing a lot of work on this map, and discovered its based on the railway map which uses Mercator projection. While all other maps made in India uses the same projection, all maps available on the web use Lambert_conformal_conic_projection. Ive been searching around for a high res conic map but the one on the texas univ site is the best available, so im trying to redraw based on that.
With conic proj, it will be easier to use other maps for reference while including data, even the disputed area maps use conic proj. Should have a prelim copy ready by night --^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 11:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:India_locator_map_blank.svg. still to iron out a few glitches. file size also has been reduced --^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 17:18, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Translation

Hi,

I did the following more translations:

commons:Template:SupersededSVG uses the same translations as commons:Template:Superseded so its not possible to translate it separately. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you,

Cygnus_hansa 00:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Editor review/Shreshth91

Please comment on my ER. I eagerly await your comments.--May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ^{(review me!)} 07:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

India map ready

Finally, ive got the map all fixed up. I used state maps from the census site for the state borders. so now the coast and borders should be a lot more accurate than before. Also the disputed areas were a litlle confusing before, but now should be easy to understand. Tell me if its ok or more changes need to be done. Image:India map en.svg --^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 17:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I made a basic outline from here. then i used the state maps from here for more accurate borders. Tracing was done at 300% of the base map size. Its a shame the railways used mecrator projection for their map, otherwise it would be the best one available --^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 08:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Image:Logo indiapost.gif

Hi! My image (Image:Logo indiapost.gif) was replaced by a .svg one in the article Indian Postal Service. How can I remove the orphan .gif image from the English Wikipedia? --Victor.P.Das 18:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for removing it. --Victor.P.Das 19:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the barnstar

Nichalp, thank you very much for the barnstar! I'm delighted to receive one on behalf of my bot. :) I hope the report can help identify those duplicate votes. If you have any suggestions, please feel free to tell me. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 02:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]