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February 2015

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edits to DirectX, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, reduces edit conflicts, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. Codename Lisa (talk) 04:55, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

For being new

For being new to wikipedia, you sure do know what your doing. Might I suggest not making so many different edits though, instead just you should preview and then save. (For example, there are 10 edits in a row on the windows 10 page by you) Mathmanboy (talk) 13:59, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

@Mathmanboy: I will keep that in mind next time, thank you.  NeoGeneric 💬  14:42, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hi.

I thought perhaps I should invite some of the active contributors in Windows 10 article to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Windows Insider. Personally, I feel Windows Insider article has nothing new to warrant a separate article.

Best regards,
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Re: Wording

Actually, your insisted wordings are merely hypernyms. "Upgrade", in relation to Windows, implies installation of the operating system and migrating files/settings from a prior installation. Due to how it will be distributed upon its launch, almost all installations of Windows 10 will be upgrades, so the wording is essentially the same.

"Succeed" means to "take the place of, take over from", meaning that it is an hypernym of "replace" in this context.

Additionally, the Microsoft source makes no reference to being able to set it manually.ViperSnake151  Talk  00:22, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

On The Google Chrome Logo...

I do believe the official Google Chrome logo is in fact the material design logo. This is simply because while the "official" desktop website has not been updated in quite a few months, the Google Play version of Google Chrome's logo has been updated for material design. I am very sure once the desktop Google Chrome is updated, the new logo will also come. Please edit this section for further debate.

-- Best wishes, Evan C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AwesomeSaucer9 (talk • contribs) 22:55, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

about what you said on your userpage

hello this is dfrr. you said on your userpage that you wanted to put more stuff on there. well no worries I can help you with that. here are two links.:-)

• Wikipedia:User page design center
• Wikipedia:User page design center/Menus and subpages

Thank you and have a great dayDfrr (talk) 19:15, 16 April 2015 (UTC) (Talk to me:-))

@Dfrr: Thanks heaps for pointing out those pages, I will be sure to make good use of them!  NeoGeneric 💬  12:26, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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This article needs a serious rewrite or sectioning

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Please Neo help on this.

10:28, 16 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreamofworld (talk • contribs)

@Dreamofworld: Wait, which article do you refer? Do you mean my userpage? Because yes, there's a lot of whitespace :)  NeoGeneric 💬  10:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I am very sorry for Hurry. I mean Microsoft hardware article. This article is mentioned in see also of all Microsoft article, but is very badly written or categorized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreamofworld (talk • contribs) 10:47, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

@Dreamofworld: Yes, I think part of the issue is that it is a spin-off of the Nokia page, so some information is incomplete because of this. I'll look into it over the next few days.  NeoGeneric 💬  10:52, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

@Dreamofworld: Sorry! - My mind was stuck into thinking you were talking about the Microsoft Lumia page (I was guessing before) and I didn't check your link. Yes I see what you mean, I will look into it in the next few days as I mentioned before.  NeoGeneric 💬  10:54, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

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from your recent edits (well done) suspect you need to have a close look at how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Marine_and_Coastal_Regionalisation_of_Australia can be incorporated - or at least see also'ed - cheers JarrahTree 04:24, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Thanks for bringing the topic to my attention, the information would do well to supplement the characteristics of each area marine reserve. NeoGeneric 💬  05:37, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

My personal problem with IMCRA is it's three dimensional nature - IBRA is less problematic to encounter and explain - the maritime environment has things that belong to particular zones in some parts - does my head in I am afraid - whats left of it JarrahTree 05:39, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: I think the article needs a dose of diagrams to help explain the differences between the types of regions. Thankfully it appears these maps are available under CC-BY here. I will add it too my to-do list because it appears to be an integral topic for the Commonwealth Marine Reserves, especially considering the somewhat vague and general descriptions on environment.gov about what sort of ecosystem each reserve protects. NeoGeneric 💬  06:42, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

It is an immense relief to find someone interested in this sort of thing - the IBRA and IMCRA material have long needed a lot of adding and reinforcing with links and contexts - anything you do is help - thanks ! JarrahTree 06:46, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: I appreciate your support! :)  NeoGeneric 💬  06:50, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

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thanks

for your tasmanian maps JarrahTree 12:38, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Thank you!  NeoGeneric 💬  12:44, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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is extremely rare - rare considering the somnolent nature of the Tasmanian editing community - your persistent improvement of Tasmanian items is much appreciated...JarrahTree 00:20, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Thank you! Again! Appreciate the barnstar!  NeoGeneric 💬  00:31, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

btw

suburbs was an issue some years ago - most local government areas do not have them it was a abs invention - I tend to turn them to localities. JarrahTree 05:58, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: OK, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the heads up.  NeoGeneric 💬  06:17, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

and adding ext links can attract WP:SPAM if the material is not linking in with something in the text, but... JarrahTree 23:52, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Yes I see what you mean - helpful links, but extraneous to the article/s itself.  NeoGeneric 💬  11:22, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

dont panic - just dont fill the whole australian project with stuff like that :) JarrahTree 12:27, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, in respect to the above subject, I am interested in those marine parks adjoining the South Australian jurisdiction because I started most of the articles. This is because of the complexity of the marine protected area situation in SA and in Commonwealth waters in the Great Australian Bight. For example, there are now three articles about entities called the 'Great Australian Bight Marine Park'. When there were two (i.e. Great Australian Bight Marine Park (Commonwealth waters) and Great Australian Bight Marine Park; the latter being a collection of marine protected areas), I spent considerable time sorting these out. I have started to upgrade articles in my area of interest starting with Great Australian Bight Marine Park (2017). I am wondering if you would like to divided the work up in respect to existing articles? Please reply here in order to keep every thing in one thread and as I am now watching your talk page. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 09:56, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

@Cowdy001: Hi Cowdy001, I would be happy to update the marine parks of the South-east network. Also, my plan was to slowly make new stub-like articles for each of the new reserves, similar to what I have already been done for the South-east network reserves. Cheers,  NeoGeneric 💬  06:56, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

@NeoGeneric:, Thanks for the reply, I will do the rest of the existing articles in the South-west Network. I will have a look at what you have previously done before commenting. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 10:19, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

@NeoGeneric:, Hi, I just tried to rename Southern Kangaroo Island Commonwealth Marine Reserve as the 'Southern Kangaroo Island Marine Park' to discover that you have create a redirect with the same name. Please reply to discuss how to fix. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 05:10, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cowdy001: Whoops, didn't think about that. I will speedy delete the redirects I made where a Commonwealth Marine Reserve article already exists (which can then can be moved once they are deleted). My mistake!  NeoGeneric 💬  05:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

I just discovered that same applies to the 'Western Kangaroo Island Marine Park'. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 05:25, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cowdy001: Yeah I did the whole lot at the same time, but didn't think about if there were existing pages that needed to be moved first.  NeoGeneric 💬  05:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

HI NeoGeneric, I have finished renaming the existing articles about marine parks in the South-east Marine Parks Network and advise that I will continue with the creation of articles for the remainder of the marine parks in that MP Network. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 03:53, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cowdy001: Nice work. I intend to do the same with the SE network, and some new articles for other "significant" marine parks (i.e. high conservation and/or big in area) - except for the the HIMI reserve, since you said below you were looking at making a start there.  NeoGeneric 💬  04:47, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

If you have problems like this again, let me know, I can delete to make space if needed. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 09:26, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Cods Grounds Marine Park

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• Sorry... I restored the speedy tag once I realized that Cods in the title was an error. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:52, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@Eastmain: No worries. This typo originated from the officially released geospatial data, so you weren't the first!  NeoGeneric 💬  04:52, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

The addition of "Heard Island and McDonald Islands Marine Park" to Wikidata

Hi NeoGeneric, I was just checking Wikidata because of previous issues with entries. I have noticed that you have added an entry under the name of "Heard Island and McDonald Islands Marine Park". I must advise that this name is incorrect. I have already done some research about the "Heard Island and McDonald Islands Commonwealth Marine Reserve" (HIMI CMR) with the view of writing an article about it. I found that the correct name is the "Heard Island and McDonald Islands Marine Reserve" as this appears on two management plans and on proclamations made under the EPBC Act, although CAPAD 2016 uses HIMI CMR. When one reviews all of the material published by the Australian government about Australian marine parks, one will notice that there is no mention of the HIMI CMR. I would therefore suggest that you rename the Wikidata entry. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 03:49, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cowdy001: Hello. Yes, it looks like the HIMI was not part of the renaming schedule - the explanatory statement confirms this. Furthermore, looking at the 2014 management plan, it appears the HIMI reserve is managed by DoE under the Australian Antarctic Division, not Parks Australia (which might be why it was not renamed in 2017?).

The Director of National Parks has delegated responsibilities under the EPBC Act in respect of the Reserve to the AAD in recognition of the AAD’s considerable Antarctic and subantarctic expertise and its ongoing responsibilities for the administration of the Territory on behalf of the Australian Government (Part 1: Foreword)

So I agree that 'Marine Park' is the wrong name.  NeoGeneric 💬  04:41, 15 August 2018 (UTC)::

@Cowdy001: I was going to change the names to 'Marine Reserve', which is what is used in the management plan. Would you agree?

Agree Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 07:02, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

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Template:Central Highlands LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Clarence City LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Clarence City LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Derwent Valley LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Derwent Valley LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Devonport City LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Devonport City LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Dorset LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Dorset LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Flinders LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Flinders LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:George Town LGA InteractiveMap

Template:George Town LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Glamorgan-Spring Bay LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Glamorgan-Spring Bay LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Glenorchy City LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Glenorchy City LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Hobart City LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Hobart City LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Huon Valley LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Huon Valley LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Latrobe LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Latrobe LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Launceston City LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Launceston City LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Meander Valley LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Meander Valley LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Southern Midlands LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Southern Midlands LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Tasman LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Tasman LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Waratah-Wynyard LGA InteractiveMap

Template:Waratah-Wynyard LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:West Coast LGA InteractiveMap

Template:West Coast LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:West Tamar LGA InteractiveMap

Template:West Tamar LGA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Division of BraddonTAS InteractiveMap

Template:Division of BraddonTAS InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Division of Braddon InteractiveMap

Template:Division of Braddon InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Division of DenisonTAS InteractiveMap

Template:Division of DenisonTAS InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Division of Denison InteractiveMap

Template:Division of Denison InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Division of FranklinTAS InteractiveMap

Template:Division of FranklinTAS InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Division of Franklin InteractiveMap

Template:Division of Franklin InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Division of LyonsTAS InteractiveMap

Template:Division of LyonsTAS InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Division of Lyons InteractiveMap

Template:Division of Lyons InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:06, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Tasmanian Wilderness WHA InteractiveMap

Template:Tasmanian Wilderness WHA InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:02, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Local government areas of Tasmania interactivemap

Template:Local government areas of Tasmania interactivemap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:02, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Map templates of Tasmanian local government areas

A tag has been placed on Category:Map templates of Tasmanian local government areas indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Qwerfjkltalk 20:13, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:South-east Commonwealth Marine Reserves Network

Template:South-east Commonwealth Marine Reserves Network has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:42, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:National parks of Tasmania interactivemap

Template:National parks of Tasmania interactivemap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:09, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Division of Bass InteractiveMap

Template:Division of Bass InteractiveMap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:10, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Map templates of Australian House of Representatives divisions

A tag has been placed on Category:Map templates of Australian House of Representatives divisions indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Map templates of Tasmanian national parks

A tag has been placed on Category:Map templates of Tasmanian national parks indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:07, 8 December 2022 (UTC)