User talk:Naypta/2020/July

stop requests

please stop the requests! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dthomsen8 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Dthomsen8: Hello, I'm assuming you are referring to the FRS. As is stated in the edit summary the bot leaves, and also in the footer of the message the bot leaves, you can opt out at any time by removing your name from WP:FRS. I would do so myself, but you are currently opted in to three different categories for GA nominations - engineering, history, and miscellaneous. If you wish to unsubscribe from all of them, simply remove your name from all of them; otherwise, you can remove your name from categories you are no longer interested in, change the number of messages you can be sent per month of the other categories if you wish to do so, and/or add your name to other categories. Full instructions are available on the page itself. I hope this is helpful. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 20:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Dthomsen8, I noticed you've not updated or removed your name from the list. I don't want you to keep receiving notifications you're unhappy about. Do you want me to help you remove your name completely from the service for you? Alternatively, you can change the number of messages you receive per category at WP:FRS. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 11:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

external links

I have noticed that on many pages of wikipedia there are so many external link directing to youtube channel videos , my question is are they allowed to that? if yes than when i added my link it was deleted after 2 days but other links remain same .what is the reason behind? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sitwatjabeen (talk • contribs) 10:49, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

@Sitwatjabeen: Hi, please see Wikipedia's policy on external links, which should hopefully clarify the situation. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 11:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Good Job

You keep beating me to reverting vandals and such. Very quick on the draw, lol. Xtat1c (talk) 14:20, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

deleting external links that invalidate the current version of the article

Don't do that, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.137.174.145 (talk) 15:14, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

@80.137.174.145: Hello, external links are not generally permitted in the body of an article. Please see WP:EXTERNALLINKS. Thanks, Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 22:12, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting my edit

I was actually trying to do the same as you, remove the rather rude edit. (As you can tell by my IP, Im fairly new to this...) so thanks for helping me out! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.15.119 (talk) 22:29, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Untitled section

thank you for stopping me sorry for wasting your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c7:8c82:3001:69cc:672e:67d7:59b1 (talk) 22:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Mattythewhite

Hello Naypta,

I find Mattythewhite to be quite a racist username, promoting white supremacy, which is very much against modern day beliefs. Could there be a chance of a name change to something, I don't know, more discreet.

All the best,

Have — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:c7f:a8a1:5700:bd65:1db0:9421:a98c (talk) 23:08, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

@2a02:c7f:a8a1:5700:bd65:1db0:9421:a98c: Hello, I'm afraid I can't do anything about someone else's username; if you have an issue with someone's username, you should bring it up with them on their talk page. Thanks, Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 22:12, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

stop requests

stop requests.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 13:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Wedding details

Hi, I made some editions to Wedding of Crown Prince Pavlos and Marie-Chantal Miller, that you paused. I bring some links and hope they can be used. As I am Danish Royal Family Fan, I read a lot about them and partially about their cousins and so on.

Yesterday did Marie-Chanta herself send this message at Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCF_k3MnDgk/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet) because of her 25-years wedding day, where she mentioned their wedding florist Rob van Helden (in original English wiki-article only Erik Bering is mentioned, though from Danish royal magasin BilledBladet (https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige/graekenland/25-aars-kongelig-kaerlighed-kronprins-pavlos-og-marie-chantal-fejrer) and from Danish Queen Marghrethe's book and movie about Queen Ingrid (https://www.dr.dk/bonanza/serie/432/dronning-til-alle-ti/65915/dronning-til-alle-tider-66-dronning-ingrid-som-blomsterdronning) is known, that bridal bouqet is made of 125 petal of roses--and myrtle flowers, grown by Queen Ingrid.

Erik Bering has been Danish Royal florist for decades and still indirectly is,though he enjoys his otium and letting Bjarne Als running the business.

Rob van Helden has been young and upcoming florist then in 1995, Dutch-born, only three years in London high society by that time, he got no permission to make bridal bouqet in 1995, but with this wedding of prince Pavlos he came into royal circles and began his way as royal florist in England. His last royal wedding was princess Eugene's at 2018.

Best regards, Polina S. Rasmussen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.241.129.168 (talk) 12:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@77.241.129.168: Hi there, welcome to Wikipedia. Information included on Wikipedia must be associated with a reliable source. Your edit didn't include any sources, which is why I reverted it. If you can find reliable sources that back up the claims you are making, as I mentioned on your previous IP's talk page, you can feel free to re-add the claims. They don't need to be in English; they can be in any language. Thanks! Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 22:11, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

help

I want to add an article Napoleon Wal Mahrousa It's in my Sandbox --John Adam é (talk) 16:11, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

@John Adam é: Hi, I see the article you're talking about has already been moved to draftspace, and an AfC reviewer has declined it, explaining why it has been declined, and letting you know what you can do to improve it. Please let me know if you have any other questions! Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 22:11, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello

But my thing back up u Bushz (talk) 16:28, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Yapperbot -- concern that probability of receiving notices depends on day of the month

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20:18, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Yapperbot

Yapperbot off, please, I am not responding to those requests.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:49, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Responded to user at their talk page, as previous attempts to respond here have been unsuccessful. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 08:54, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

User talk:89.243.171.114

I changed Neil Oliver's nationality to British, rather than Scottish. Half of the population are offended by his British Nationalism and overt support for racist historian David Starkey, so while it might be true that he is Scottish, it's also true that he identifies more with the word British. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.171.114 (talk) 15:28, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

89.243.171.114 - hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! I didn't revert your edit changing the nationality, although that was also unsourced - I would recommend you read WP:UKNATIONALS. I reverted this change claiming that he'd been criticised, because you didn't provide a reliable source indicating that he had been. Wikipedia's content must be verifiable with reliable sources; we don't allow original research. Please feel free to re-add the content with reliable sources, if you have them! Thanks, Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 15:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Partial blocks queries

I don't know what you were trying, but querying for that partial blocks data was pretty straightforward (at least, until I tried to prettify the final output with the blocker's name and log comment). quarry:query/46454 and quarry:query/46455. —Cryptic 22:20, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Cryptic: Thanks! That's a slightly narrower query, but it's probably a great deal more useful :) For what it's worth, I was going for querying logging twice, rather than querying logging and then ipblocks, which is where the overhead came from, in an attempt to keep in users who are not currently subject to a block. I was also using log_action IN ("block", "reblock"), but I don't imagine that made much odds. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 22:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Quick inquiry about FRS

Naypta, I just have a brief technical question which I suspect you are the best person to address. I'm slowly coming out of a period of very depressed activity here and I would like to substantially increase the volume of my RfC notices. But under both old and current systems, the numbers of notices which I have been signed up for per category have never come close to being met. Is there a default global limit of notices per calendar month per user, and if so, is {{Frs user}} the appropriate and reliable way to override the defaul? Snow ^{let's rap} 00:39, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Snow Rise: Hi there, welcome back - I'm glad you're here There is no global limit on number of notices, no; the only limits are set by the number of available RfCs and your per-category limit, if you have one set. There tend to be more GA nominations than RfCs, so if you're after things to do, you could sign up for some of the GA categories too if that's of interest! Otherwise, I'd just advise that you up your limits if you'd like to up the number of messages you receive; a new bot update a couple of days ago weights how likely you are to receive messages based on your limits set. I hope that's helpful! Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 08:54, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Ah, excellent: hopefully the next drop will be delivering me a volume of notices closer to what I can make use of. :) Thank you for your time! Snow ^{let's rap} 01:08, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

AWB on Linux

Is AWB still inserting blank lines for you? Following discussion at WT:AWB#AWB on Linux, I tried winetricks riched20, which seems to have fixed it for me. If you can confirm it's fixed then we can close the Phab ticket; if not then I'll leave it open for you and anyone else seeing the problem. Certes (talk) 12:45, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Certes: Good question! I've not seen it happening in a while, but I don't use AWB that regularly. I had riched20 installed already, along with the other winetricks recommended at the AWB on Linux page. As I've not seen it in a while, if there's nobody else who's reported it, feel free to close the Phab ticket; I'll reopen it if I see it happening again. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 15:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I've set Phab to Resolved. Certes (talk) 15:42, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Ack, remember me?

Hi, Naypta... you might not remember me, but I talked to you on the IRC chat a while ago about improving my article with references... well, a week ago, thanks to your invaluable advice, Matchbox Educable Noughts And Crosses Engine was improved enough to be approved for creation! Thanks again, WikiMacaroons (talk) 16:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@WikiMacaroons: I do remember! Congratulations on the new article, and well done on making the relevant improvements Of course, if you need any more help, you know where to find me! Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 16:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for fixing the vandalism on Nova Bus LF Series! MTATransitFan (talk) 21:08, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@MTATransitFan: No problem! I've seen your message on the user's talk page; if they continue, don't worry, they will be blocked. We normally give users four warnings before sending them to WP:AIV, just in case they calm down and edit productively Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 21:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Naypta: Thanks for clarifying! MTATransitFan (talk) 21:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of 1986 enlargement of the European Communities

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You're a sock!?

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Naypta - how could you have been socking all this time without telling me? I'm hurt :(. GeneralNotability (talk) 22:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

@GeneralNotability: I'm such an impressive sockmaster, I managed to convince myself I wasn't... Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 22:59, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

I've deleted the SPI, which we commonly do for retaliatory and baseless accusations.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Ponyo, sounds good, I left it alone because I wasn't sure if "completely baseless" was grounds for deletion. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:16, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

It can be, as an extant unfounded SPI can be weaponized down the road.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

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19:11, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

American Academy of Actuaries

Hi,

I believe that your wholesale rejection of the edits based on one link is overkill, as I compiled information about three organizations and added updated new content. I am happy to rewrite the Introduction to meet with the guidelines (and thanks for pointing those out), but the other edits and updates had nothing to do with that About Us page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by B'landRes (talk • contribs) 15:14, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

@B'landRes: Hi there. The Introduction, Mission, History and Code of Professional Conduct sections at least were copyright violations in their entirety, as confirmed to various URLs, not just the About Us page. The template for requesting the revision deletion of material that infringes copyright only allows me to include three URLs per template, so I've only been able to include the three that most of the content came from. You'll note I've also subsequently requested the removal of a lot of material that you didn't add, as well - it looks like someone else had previously added a lot of infringing content, too.

You are very welcome to add content that is well-sourced and that you've written yourself, or that is licensed appropriately, but please do not readd content that had been copied and pasted - even to work on it. Under normal circumstances, all revisions in the history of an article on Wikipedia are visible to the public, so copyright infringement can easily become a big issue unless it's spotted and removed, as is explained in the message I popped on your talk page.

All the best! Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 15:19, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Jackson Wang’s Wiki Page

Hi, I noticed your recent edit on there, and I was wondering if you could change the info in his “personal life.” It mentions this Hong Kong Instagram post incident which has nothing to do with his PERSONAL life. The editor was RealFakeKim and their entire profile is full of editing Hong Kong protests, so it’s an anti in disguise editing Jackson’s page to spread an agenda. I can not change his wiki by myself, so I’m respectfully asking❤️ Wanggaeparkgae (talk) 19:17, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

@Wanggaeparkgae: Hi there, I'm afraid I don't follow what you're looking for. I've not recently edited Jackson Wang to the best of my knowledge; neither does that page mention Instagram in any way. If you have a specific request for a change to a page that you are unable to edit, you should request that the edit be made. Thanks! Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 19:40, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I only found your account because it had you on the bottom of his “Talk” page and said you edited it 11 days ago. I don’t know much about wiki. The mention of the incident I meant is in his “Personal Life” section Paragraph 2 and unrelated to his personal life and made by someone with a clear agenda. It says Weibo, not Instagram (my bad about that). It’s about him posting midst the Hong Kong protests. I just want that paragraph gone because it has nothing to do with his personal life and is a way to incite hatred against him. I’m new to the wiki thing, so I didn’t know how to make the request. I just saw that you edited it and looked at your profile and thought you could change it, but I will attempt the way you directed too. Wanggaeparkgae (talk) 19:46, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

@Wanggaeparkgae: Ah, I follow - I responded to an edit request previously on that talk page, yes. It's worth noting, though, that information isn't generally removed from Wikipedia just because people don't like it; the statement about a Weibo post there is sourced appropriately to an Associated Press article talking about it, so it is very unlikely to be removed. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 19:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

It’s not that I “just don’t like it.” It’s that it’s not about his personal life AND is a controversial topic aka more reason it shouldn’t even be in his personal life because it has nothing to do with it. It is factually incorrect to be under that labeling. Just because it is sourced appropriately does not mean it’s appropriate to be on his page and especially under that label.

Your page talks a lot about being someone’s friend and doing the right thing and “protecting the wiki from vandalism”, “keeping this place a reliable source of knowledge for all,” and contributions follow policy” but you don’t see a problem with a person whose only contributions have been related to the Hong Kong protests adding that to a celebrity‘s PERSONAL LIFE label as a clear way to incite anger and misinformation because it does not even accurately explain everything.

You have the power to remove it and are choosing not to. It WILL get changed, and I will make it get changed. You not doing so and compiling with it is just a hindrance and frankly annoying considering how “positive” and “friendly” your page is. Wanggaeparkgae (talk) 20:19, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

@Wanggaeparkgae: First things first, please don't shout. There's no need whatsoever for that.

Someone's publicly-expressed political opinions and sentiments are perfectly valid to be included in a "personal life" section on a Wikipedia page. You are welcome to make a post on the article's talk page to see what other editors think, if you like, but I can't see any valid reason for removing that content.

You are also mistaking the user who wrote the latest revision of the page for the user who added that sentence. That content was not, in fact, added by RealFakeKim, but rather by another, unrelated editor; it was added many months ago.

If you would like to add additional context, please feel free to open an edit request to do so, making sure that your additions are supported by reliable sources, and are relevant to the context in which they are in. However, saying It WILL get changed isn't how Wikipedia works; decisions are made by consensus, not by any single individual. No one person can guarantee something is or isn't going to remain on Wikipedia. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 20:40, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

It’s not about his personal life, and he is never political. I see this convo is pointless as you magically don’t see the stance I’m coming from but about your last point: I don’t care. It will get changed, and I will be the first to point it out to you when it has cause I won’t stop❤️ Wanggaeparkgae (talk) 20:45, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Quid pro quo?

Hi! I’ve seen your nomination at WP:FAC. I must say that while I often find myself lacking spare time nowadays and I can’t say I know the exact details, the topic of your article is adjacent to a personal interest of mine, so I’d be happy to review your article if you could review mine as quid pro quo. My article is hassium, and while it may feel like it’s rather technical, I’ve tried my best to make it readable for a general reader, so even if you feel like you don’t have enough knowledge on the topic at hand, a review would still be appreciated.—R8R (talk) 09:27, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

@R8R: Thanks for dropping a message. I'll try and take a look through the article when I get some time, and leave some comments at the review. You're more than welcome to review my FAC if you like, but please don't feel obligated to do so, whether or not I review yours; I'd rather keep my wiki-work completely voluntary, as much as I possibly can. Cheers! Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 19:41, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I've looked into your comments and I hope I'll be able to respond today, or if not, then during the weekend.

As I said, your article is about something that's interesting for me too, so don't worry about me feeling obligated to return the favor (I normally would feel this way, and I think it's only fair to me to do it and for you to expect that, too, but the topic is interesting for me indeed). Probably, too, during this weekend.--R8R (talk) 17:19, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I've been able to respond to your comments, hope you'll be able to take a look soon.

But what I really wanted to write is that I should be able to start my review tomorrow. Also, I want to tell you that I once reviewed an FAC nomination of an article about something related to the Chinese Communist Party. While I ended up supporting the nomination, it did not pass because nobody else turned up at the FAC page. So my friendly advice to you as a fellow editor would be that if nobody else turns up in a week or so, it might be wise to look for more reviewers yourself, like why I wrote to you in the first place. Maybe the WikiProjects covering Spain, Portugal, and the European Union could help, too. I'd hate to see that happen before my eyes once again because I know how much work goes into writing a bronze star-worthy article.--R8R (talk) 18:36, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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13:52, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

question at RfA talk

Didn't want to muddy that discussion any further. It looks bad if the candidate doesn't answer fairly quickly for at least the first 18 or so hours of the RfA (because they're expected to have started it at a time that was convenient for themselves), but the bigger problem is that if someone asks a question with a diff (which ought to be most questions), everyone is going to go look at that diff, and some people won't wait for the answer before they go ahead and oppose on the basis of the diff, and it only takes a few opposes before those who come into RfAs looking for the chance to oppose feel comfortable doing it because there are other opposes. So when a candidate gets a question with a diff that doesn't look great and needs an explanation, it can feel very much like every minute counts. —valereee (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee: I agree with you that that's definitely a problem. I wonder if perhaps one solution to that might actually be to open RfAs to questions for a period of time before permitting votes on them, to allow those things to be straightened out in advance. On the one hand, it would prolong the process (which I know will get groans all around); on the other, it does go some way as to prevent that sort of problem.

I think it's also worth pointing out that the idea that most questions should have an accompanying diff and be about a specific piece of content is an opinion, not gospel - it's a perfectly valid opinion, don't get me wrong, and I absolutely get why you feel that way! I think there's a valid case to be made, though, that questions about someone's general approach can still be valid, especially where there's an expressed intent to mop in areas where one hasn't done wikiwork before (either through simple lack of experience doing so, or through lack of ability so to do - e.g. blocking users, handling AN/I if the user doesn't have much experience there, processing AIV reports, dealing with revdel). Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 15:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Naypta, yes, definitely it's opinion. Plenty of people would disagree. But I take exception with your example -- an expressed intent to mop in areas you haven't done significant work is going to generate widespread opposes, most without asking a question or waiting for someone else to. It would be an incredibly silly thing for any candidate to do. —valereee (talk) 15:20, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

And for heaven's sake, you started the comment with As I mentioned above, it's plausible that other people also share the view that a candidate with no opposition should probably face more scrutiny than one that has received opposes. You connected that comment to your earlier question and your rationale. No, that's not really plausible that someone with 17000 edits who works mostly at AIV, UAA, and CSD 'hasn't been involved in anything controversial', nor is it plausible that they're 'just good at hiding it.' Look, for your own reasons, you decided to ask a question. I don't know why, but if you really did it because 'the candidate looks too good to be true therefore they need even more scrutiny' then IMO that's a WORSE reason than what WereSpielChequers was guessing. Often people can get away with this kind of thing, but because there were already so many questions, including multiple silly ones, you got criticized for it. You are just digging yourself a deeper hole by trying to keep trying to convince people that it was a reasonable question asked for a plausible reason. —valereee (talk) 15:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee: I fear that criticism of my question is troubling you far more than it is me I don't think this is going anywhere fast, and I do think it's a bit strange to seemingly question whether I'm telling the truth about what my thought process was, then separately question whether I'm talking about it too much - but to briefly address your other points: I specifically said in my comment I was not making reference to Red Phoenix's RfA, who it is by this stage abundantly clear will pass the RfA process save for some earth-shattering event happening in the next couple of days, but rather in general, because the discussion at WT:RFA isn't at the talk page for the specific RfA; it's a discussion location for RfA as a concept, as both of us know perfectly well.

As to an expressed intent to mop in areas you haven't done significant work is going to generate widespread opposes; well, as I highlighted, in plenty of cases, it's difficult to impossible to provide proof of dealing with things like revdel beyond taking the word of the admins who one's contacted previously to ask them to undertake the revdel itself. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 15:46, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matthew Lynn (2nd nomination)

Hi - you recently participated in an AfD for Matthew Lynn and I just wanted to let you know I've re-nominated the article in case you'd like to participate in the new discussion. Paradoxsociety 09:05, 30 July 2020 (UTC)