User talk:NawlinWiki/Archive 15

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Queers Night Out

I'd like to just copy and paste a part of the article that you linked on my talk page after deleting the article.

If an article fails to cite sufficient sources to demonstrate the notability of its subject, look for sources yourself, or:

Ask the article's creator for advice on where to look for sources. Put the notability tag on the article to alert other editors. To place a dated tag, put a subst:dated|notability tag. If the article is about a specialized field, use the expert-subject tag with a specific WikiProject to attract editors knowledgeable about that field, who may have access to reliable sources not available online. It is a guideline of Wikipedia that notability should be established by an authoritative, outside source, not a stone-iron rule.

You haven't done any of those things. You unilaterally deleted the page, claiming that it fit under the guidelines for speedy deletion, citing notablity. I find it amusing that the link you wrote on my discussion page about general consensus around notability specifically mentions common sense! The criteria for speedy deletion does not state that one must include an authoritative, outside source that states the "notability" of the topic, it states that the article must describe why it is notable. It is obviously notable that, as one of the first times in American history, a group of people from the LGBT community actively expressed their sexual orientation. Common sense!

Honestly, I find it very sad that an administrator, who is supposed to represent the ideals of Wikipedia, has so blatantly ignored them. Wikipedia has been built on the ideal that every individual can contribute. That together, each editing and adding, we wikipedians can create a vast encyclopedia of knowledge for all to learn from.

But you have disregarded this ideal. Rather then allowing the article to be edited by other wikipedians, you deleted it. It didn't fit your specifications. Honestly, I find your abuse of power to be very sad. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to exhaustively research Queers Night Out, or go through the steps to challenge you. I must return to my work, to my other commitments. And you will probably make some quick comment on my talk page, delete this comment, and continue on with your unilateral desecration of Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockhurst singer (talk • contribs) 20:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I really appreciate yout timely response.I am a student who is doing a survey on restaurants in Mid town,Manhattan.Tiffin wala was one my first write ups.I found it really unique because of its plans of implementing delivering the lunch boxes to door step of the working people in New York. At the same time I am doing a survey on other restaurants as well.However Wiki is not providing me an oppurtunity to update it by deleting it time and again.I have been educating many people about wiki and expecting user contributions as well. My revised article did not contain any text that would seem advertising and I gave a scope for user contributions.However its dis heartening to know that I am being deprived of an oppurtunity. Kindly justify

yo

hey why delete my maddencrazy post when i run the maddencrazy site —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ochocinco985 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

So what if there is no site as such just news articles —Preceding unsigned comment added by Revmick (talk • contribs) 15:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC) I am wondering I started the page Ps Michael Green so since you deleted it tell me what has to be there so it cant be deleted this amn has opened the way for White Poeple to be let into native new zealander tribes and also he is an accredited healing evangelist.\ Please feel free to email me about what has to be in this atricle at: joeygg1984@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Revmick (talk • contribs) 15:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted my article on one of the restaurants - Tiffin Wallah. Why doesnt wiki give scope to write about interesting places around? .Entry was hardly a day old and you dont seem to be giving any scope for user contributions. However I still see entries for other restaurants on wikipedia.how would you justify this?

Hi!

What do you class as a notable independent source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Revmick (talk • contribs) 15:33, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted the Article I just wrote - Epilogue Day - so, I just wanted to ask - are you sure it should be deleted? really? I mean, I think it was rather nice. so can't you put it back on? pretty please...? (: now seriously - I'm not a spammer or anything, I really love wikipedia, I just wanted to know what's wrong with it. have a nice day, horizon 12:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the speedy comment... well, I guess I'll wait with writing the article. (:

(is it going to be archived in the history of the "Epilogue Day" page, or...?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuvalavrami (talk • contribs) 13:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How to close AfDs

Hi, I am a brand new administrator and I want to find out how to close a debate at AfD. Can you please direct me? Bearian 14:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the information! Bearian 16:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph & Co

Hi - You just deleted a page I created for Ralph & Co saying that it failed to pass notability standards and directed me to the relevant help pages to see for myself. Unfortunately in the criteria for speedy deletion it quite patently says that lack of notability is not a reason for speedy deletion?!? You also pointed me to the criteria for companies, which again doesn't give me any clear reason for your speedy deletion of this page.

As the pages you directed me to explain, you should have approached me beforehand to discuss the deletion/editing of this page. Either way, if you have some other suggestions as to how I may alter the page in order to get it back up and running I would quite happily discuss them with you. Otherwise please review your decision and undelete Ralph & Co.

Thanks Lordbriggs 16:42 GMT, 1 October 2007 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 15:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT/UPDATE: Ok so while I completely miss the difference between nonnotiblity and "it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable", and moreover I still am positive that your deletion broke the rules I guess I have to work with you here. Ralph have had much press and notability over the years. I already had one source in the article that you deleted, but here are a few more.

Channel 4

NMA Top 100 Agency

Netimperitive Interview

Web Designer Magazine Interview

Can you let me know how i am supposed to implement these into the page? Is it through a references section at the bottom.

Thanks --Lordbriggs 16:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT/UPDATE 2 Thanks for the info. By the way before I forget, the article about citation you linked me to has some spam in it in the table of contents. It is pretty racist, so you may want to look at it asap. Aside from that can you let me know how to edit the page so that we can get the Ralph & Co page up and running again. Thannks. --Lordbriggs 21:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FINAL UPDATE Thanks again. Glad you sorted that vandalism out. There are some idiots inhabiting our breathing space. Anyway I have done as you said and updated the page with the sources. I plan to expand on the page in the near future to bring in more info and references so I will get in touch with any more queries. Speak soon. --Lordbriggs 09:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Llama Farmers

Why has this gone? (Just came here looking for any new info and discovered they've been obliterated). Surely meets notability, see e.g. http://music.yahoo.com/ar-295349---Llama-Farmers for releases etc. (No idea where they've been for the last 5 years but don't see why that gets them deleted...) --195.212.29.92 16:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A question regarding vandalism.

If you have a moment, I would like to bring a matter to your attention, and ask for your opinion. Earlier today, anonymous user 201.254.85.193 vandalized the 1973 oil crisis article 17 times in the space of 9 minutes (see [[1]]). In that time span, he received 3 vandalism warnings before finally being blocked by Antandrus.

My question, and one for which I am not certain you can give a complete answer, is: Why did it take so long for the block to be initiated? I understand that administrators are busy. But, really 17 acts of vandalism in 9 minutes and only 3 warnings? Surely we can do better than that, yes? ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 18:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for my tone. Rereading this, I realize it came off as much more of a complaint than I intended. My intention was not to point fingers or cast aspersions, I was really just curious to hear your opinion. I appreciate your response. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 18:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose what is actually amazing is that he committed 17 acts of vandalism in 9 minutes. Apparently, the anonymous user has a faster internet connection than I do! ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 18:49, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doing the vandal patrol for awhile, it takes the last warning to really trigger the block. I have noticed that most of the time the ban hammer comes down swiftly if you report them to WP:AIV after the last warning. Getting to that last warning takes most of the time. Spryde 12:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the help!

thanks for the help, that individual has been going non-stop all day!--Mike Searson 19:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Super

Great work in deleting nonsense articles, this user has created a lot.. please have a look. [2] Thanks! Phgao 20:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.

Phgao 20:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

what?

hi i noticed on recent changes that you deleted a user page and blocked the user indefinitely for being a vandalism-only account however, according to Special:Contributions/Marlith there is no vandalism, i think the vandal is Special:Contributions/MarIth. Please correct me if i am incorrect--AF US CO 21:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Do Me London

Hi there. Could you explain why my Do Me London page was instantly deleted? I saw when I was writing it that it had been deleted before, but it seemed from the delete log that that was because the initial page had just been a bit of advertising blurb from the company that runs it rather than a proper article. I don't understand why that automatically disqualifies the entry that I wrote.

Can I also check that you saw the whole article? I'm still pretty new here and it wasn't displaying properly for me - just the first few lines. I'm not sure if I'd done something wrong in the formatting. I'm worried that that was all you saw and you deleted it because it looked like two sentences of spam, rather than a proper entry with references to newspaper articles, etc. Can you let me know? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Umenides (talk • contribs) 14:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand your reason for deleting my article

Speedy deletion of Jan Janßen

A tag has been placed on Jan Janßen, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia per CSD a7.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the article and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. Tckma 14:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this Article deleted ? For sure, Jan Janßen is not a very important Person, but I think it is important to mention, that there is a different version of writing "Jan Janßen". All the Articles on Wikipedia just contain "Jan Janssen" and there is no "Jan Janßen", so I thought it is important to add this person the wikipedia! So please Explain why you disagree !

trail of breadcrumbs

...for you here. - CobaltBlueTony 15:42, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

...Monkeyshine recreated with prod tag. Let's oblige him. - CobaltBlueTony 16:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

...This guy's really dumb... - CobaltBlueTony 16:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hey, Nawlin...thanks for rv'ing the lastest blast on my talk page...looks like you got some from this guy, too. He's one of the many IPs of User:Wikzilla, who was blocked and decided to try to evade the block with a series of socks, now he's just IP hopping with his crap. Unfortunately, there's not much we can do other than revert with folks like this, revert and wait patiently for them to get bored with their antics. Just wanted you to know what you stumbled into. AKRadecki^Speaketh 15:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: USNV

I have tried rewriting the summary and have added an accredited source. However, a user, not an admin, has contually deleted my information. Please advise.USNV WEB 16:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is not USNV's annual report. It is a third party financial institution.USNV WEB 17:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Retort

The 30-Second Bunnies Theatre article ([3])is the same kind of article I wrote that you deleted(Hungry Monkey Productions). Please allow me to write my article in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josh The Great9 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

just a joke

If you see the joke, you will notice that Republic of One is also being attacked. So personal attack on myself???? Sorry. Keep on improving Oscar Wyatt ! Republic of One 17:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Under my arm Baretta

I'm really not sure why you deleted my page?! Have you actually done your research? I have multiple sources in LA that have confirmed this story, including one of Rihanna's best friends. Can you please reinstate the page? I really feel as if this has been removed prematurely.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Baretta99 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kennesaw State University Department of English

We are furthering this site as a group project for our English Education class English 3241. However, this is the second time you have deleted our site concerning the Department of English, claiming that we were advertising, and there are several other instances of universities expanding their departments. Why is ours deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merkabamantra (talk • contribs) 18:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That quote was taken straight from the source in order to protect validity. If we source and link and the exact sites these are taken from, would our page be safe? If every possible connection was referenced, would our problem be solved? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merkabamantra (talk • contribs) 19:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We are not members of the department, we are students. If there is any further input that you could give us to keep our entry up and running, please extend them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merkabamantra (talk • contribs) 14:12, October 2, 2007

Tony Olsson

Thanks for help re speedy delete. I cannot understand why it was up in the first place. Hammer1980·^talk 20:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shoemoney

Hello Nawlin, would you please give me some insight into why you deleted the Shoemoney/Jeremy Schoemaker page? I believe he is a relevant Internet personality and there are several references listed for him, including the BusinessWeek one which names him as a top blogger. Thanks so much for any info. - Julia - Julia Wilkinson —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliawilk (talk • contribs) 23:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Took me 2 hours!

And didn`t even like the show Flatmania. I did my best! What was wrong? It`s not my fault if I have to watch it with my cousin when I babysit! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamesrcool (talk • contribs) 00:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maavägi

Hi! Can you please help me? I reated the Estonian Army page in here on wikipedia. It is under construction and I improve it every day. Just today one of the Estonian Project member (I am myself Estonian as well) noted out that the page I created has some seriuos problems with the style and pictures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maav%C3%A4gi could you please, as an administrator check it up and tell me would such style be okey? I have added many pictures of the am and vehicles along with the text and also I made small icons for the army weapons and equipment types.

My problem:

This article has multiple issues:

   * Its references would be clearer with a different and/or consistent style of citation, footnoting or external linking. Tagged since October 2007.
   * It may need to be wikified to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.Tagged since October 2007.
   * It may require general cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.Tagged since October 2007.

Please help improve the article or discuss these issues on the talk page.

I would like that my style would be ccepted as I belive it is more interesting for the watcher when there are some icons and pictures to see while he(she reads the informtion. Hope you have time to check it up and that you can help me with it. User:Karabinier 16:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maavägi

I will remove some of the pictures but I wouldnt want to remove all of them from the right corner - left side weapons list and right side picture list - I would like to preserve it but with less pictures. But what about the other things that one the user Sander Säde critisized? Does wikipedia allow-accept icons before the weapons system-type? Also would it be for you as a watcher - interesting/cool or boring/annoying - to see? User:Karabinier 16:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Judge Smails

The page I put up for Lions-fans mocks almost exactly the same page for ExtremeSkins, which is the identical fan site for a different team. I will recreate my page since it is valid.

Speedy deletion

I am in the process of creating Anthony Andersen. Please refrain from deletions until the {{inuse}} tag is removed. Thanks. dr.ef.tymac 16:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

O.k. the inuse tag has been removed, feel free to speedy-delete away as the article already exists under a different spelling. Thanks. dr.ef.tymac 16:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reform Judaism Project

Thanks for that - my mind is moving way faster than my fingers... A Sniper 10:23, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why A.F.C.

Hi, can you please say how you would integrate the Why A.F.C. extract into the history. --Sunderland06 19:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adding sources

how do you add a source that has already been added. --Sunderland06 19:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I meant if you have already have a citation, how do you put the same citation in a different place. --Sunderland06 19:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, bud.--Sunderland06 20:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blog opera

I wasn't aware that neologisms could be speedied. Can it really? (Especially as this term seemed to be used at multiple sites). - CobaltBlueTony 20:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, so what do I tag it with to speedy it? {{db-nonsense}}? - CobaltBlueTony 20:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. It's back. - CobaltBlueTony 20:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Back again! - CobaltBlueTony 20:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance

Hi, I just made a page on Adam Johnson (lover). It was a joke for my friend, and it took me ages to write it all out, is there any chance I could somehow get the information I wrote back just for like a few seconds so I can copy it to my friend on messenger? please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajoh00n (talk • contribs) 15:33, October 3, 2007)

email

ive added my email address —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajoh00n (talk • contribs) 20:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

are you sure you sent it to the right email address? ive still not received it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajoh00n (talk • contribs) 20:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you deleted my page about Britney Spears. Is it because she is controversial and I'm being too trivial/?

Anyways, I'm in the sandbox now. I like template experimentation along with following Britney news.--Emily6969 20:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

stop deleting the page about mr. richard a. russell. he is a senior govermment official who needs to be recognized for his involvement in the DNI CIO.

there are two dozen articles that erference mr. russell... newsweek, etc. . stop being over ambitious and let us get this articler posted and linked

Hi

Hi....My page on a company named HearMe was deleted, and I was hoping you could shed some light on why.

Sovereign Deed

Just wondering why the Sovereign Deed page was deleted. The company website and outside sources were included. Thanks for your help. Edit47 TN 00:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I read all the articles posted and there was original reporting in them. And according to my research and the company website, they haven't issued any press releases yet. Edit47 TN 01:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Loyola 2L page

Well, that didn't last long. Could you please explain the criteria for determining whether a blogger is notable? For instance, I linked to a front page Wall Street Journal article that discussed him, and as another commentator said, a quick google search reveals a mass of discourse both by Loyola 2L and about him. Thanks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Turkeycocoa

Additionally, looking at the first deletion of the page in June, there was an admin who recommended allowing the recreation of the page, should a new newspaper article appear mentioning Loyola 2L. The Wall Street Journal article fits the bill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Turkeycocoa (talk • contribs) 01:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I read all the articles posted and there was original reporting in them. And according to my research and the company website, they haven't issued any press releases yet. Edit47 TN 01:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page move thanks!

Thanks for moving the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editors_willing_to_make_difficult_edits Uncle uncle uncle 01:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the basis that the page is now in a more appropriate namespace, I've taken the speedy off. Hope that's OK. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 02:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sovereign Deed

I have reread all the articles posted and there was original reporting in all of them. And according to my research and the company website, they have never issued a press release. This company is a startup, but it is at the forefront of a new industry -- noone else in the world is doing what they are. Edit47 TN 05:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you delete Carla Brown?

I was not anywhere near finished putting all the info on there. What gives you the right to say she's not notable? She is very notable, she has 2 websites. Don't just go deleting on a whim like that. Fallon70 23:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)Fallon70[reply]

Contesting Speedy Deletion of Kay.K.BayZ

Hi there,

I have read and understood the criteria. I believe Kay.K.BayZ meets the criteria.

Kay.K.BayZ is the producer, songwriter and lyricist of the 6hr Sundae album which climbed up the charts in Istanbul, Turkey this year. Two songs from the album featured in the Top 10 on two radio stations and a television channel, namely Dream TV.

He is also a lead singer and drummer in the band. They have released two video clips and are on the verge of releasing a third. They have also had many TV, Radio and Magazine interviews (Billboard, Blue Jean etc...), all of which were spoken by Kay.K. They are popular in Turkey. You can see snipets of the interviews and clips at:

http://www.6hrsundae.com/video.php or on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=6hr+Sundae&search=Search

The Kay.K.BayZ article is aimed at providing information about him. If it comes across like self promotion, changes can be made.

Regards,

)

Kudret —Preceding unsigned comment added by KayKBayZ (talk • contribs) 07:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

USNV

Ok, I am really confused as to what I can do here. The US Night Vision Corp. is the only manufacturer of this related night vision technology that is used around the globe. If I look at the list of Night Vision Manufactures I see a vertual shopping cart of companies that are like USNV. Why is that when I attempt to give credit to the developer of the technology you block this? Please explain your position. I have followed the guidleines set down by Wikipedia as well as made the explaination match that of the other corporations in the list. Please give me more guideance than threats about posting.USNV WEB 16:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cateogory:Skeleton racers

You speedied this as a G6, not sure why. Just letting you know I'll be recreating it per [4]. --Kbdank71 16:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm an idiot. I saw where you said G6 typo, and I checked it and thought, "No, skeleton is spelled right. So is racers. Hmmm." I think I need a break... :) --Kbdank71 16:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chicag ball

While I 100% agree that the article was crap, it didn't qualify for A7 ... games don't qualify for it.Kww 22:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Game

You deleted my article about The Game mere seconds after it was created. I was attempting to highlight an aspect of American culture, that I am sure the Wiki users would have found intriguing had they been given the chance to read and edit it. Perhaps you should get off your overentitled horse and allow this to be a place were users can actually contribute, rather than your own personal playground where you trample on the "sancastles" of those you deem beneath you. My article was not vandalism, had it only been given the chance to expand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrhardy (talk • contribs) 04:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Injustice articles

Hi! Looks like we have a slew of socks adding these little op-ed pieces. I tagged them as socks of the earliest "user," Julieb12. See ya. --PMDrive1061 16:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Amy Moore

Thanks for deleting that page; it amazes me that something so obviously fraudulent stayed up for so long. It looked like someone even took off the origional speedy deletion tag due to dubious claims such as the "fact" that she played the lead role in Mr. Bean's Holiday. It never occured to me that Rowan Atkinson was actually a 15 year old girl... stuff like this makes you wonder what else goes unnoticed. Gizzakk 18:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure glad you're here.

Tell you what: I'm glad to see at least one admin who hasn't burned out from all the nonsense. Keep up the good work and remember this line from A Handmaid's Tale: Nolite te bastardes carburundorum. The former Lucky 6.9 in his new and secret non-adminstrative identity as --PMDrive1061 20:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure. The grief, the threats and the general sence of indecency are what drove me out in March '06. Tried again in September...gave it up in January. I'm trying to stay away from NPP as much as possible, but it isn't working. Glad to say I've added new stuff. Looks like you have another "fan" in the message below. :) Try and keep a stiff upper lip. I can relate. --PMDrive1061 20:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I saw that you deleted the Suburban Eloquence page. I don't understand why. They are very popular here in Naperville and the surrounding counties and it was interesting to read about them. I was so glad that someone took the time out to write an article about them only to find out a few hours later it was gone. You said they were non-notable, but Google them. Look them out. Take some time out to justify your allegations. They have their videos on AOL and various websites. They are a hot topic on the KanyeTalk message boards and they were on WGCI a few weeks ago. They are even scheduled to be on WONC, NCC's radio station. I don't believe that a place that prides itself on being "the free encyclopedia" would delete a page because the discriminated against it. YES, i wrote discriminated because you judged the page as some marketing tool, without actually looking into the subject first. I guess that's why my teachers say not to use Wikipedia because it is full of junk that allows anyone to edit anything while "editors" like you let them do that. I'm dissapointed.

It's up again!

~~[5] Phgao 01:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)~~ Deleted Phgao 01:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE Contesting Speedy Deletion of Kay.K.BayZ

NEW UPDATEKayKBayZ 02:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again,

No worries. I understand your concerns.

Due to the continually updating nature of the music industry, songs don't stay in the charts for long and websites are updated to reflect the new changes.

The 6hr Sundae (known as 6 Saat overseas) album was released early this year and has already placed and been removed from the charts. Therefore it's extremely difficult to find currently live links. However, we have attached a few from a radio station and some screen dumps to prove the success of the band:

Radio Charts: http://www.radiooscar.net/muzik_haber_detaylari.asp?haber=847 http://www.radiooscar.net/top20.asp?gelen=148 http://www.radiooscar.net/top20.asp?gelen=146

Billboard Magazine: http://www.6hrsundae.com/media/billboard.jpg

Dream TV Website Screen Dump: http://www.6hrsundae.com/media/dreamTv.jpg

Rock Fest 2007: http://www.zeytinlirockfest.com/ (navigate to "Gruplar" then "6 Saat")

Kay.K.BayZ is listed as the producer of the album, a songwriter, lead singer and drummer in the band. I have read through the Wikipedia criteria and believe that Kay.K qualifies under each/any of these:

-Has been listed as a major influence or teacher of a composer, songwriter or lyricist that meets the above criteria

-Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a musician or ensemble that qualifies above, a notable theatre, or has been taken up by a musician or ensemble that qualifies above.

-Has been a significant musical influence on a musician or composer that qualifies for the above list.

-Has had a work used as the basis for a later composition by a songwriter, composer or lyricist who meets the above criteria.

And I am prepared to remove any part of the article that may sound like advertising/spam to make sure we are providing information about Kay.K and not advertising him.

Regards,

Kudret KayKBayZ 02:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kimkins Controversy

Hello. Thanks for your feedback the other day on this page. A couple of other admins/sysops also helped me, and the speedy delete tags were removed. I thought we were in the clear! I had added excellent sources (NY Times and LA Times affiliate publication citations) and was working on cleaning up formatting. It all seemed fine, and I came home last night to find the page gone again, this time with no warning. I'm totally new at this and may have jumped in over my head but I thought I had it figured out. I can't get any answer from the last admin in the history (Bumm13) so I thought I'd seek your help. I'd like to understand the deletion, and challenge it. Thank you! Kathycha 12:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE: I contacted Bumm13 on freenode/#wikipedia and was advised that he did the delete at the instruction of another admin whose name & reasons were not noted in the logs (geni). I have now received a copy of the article as it was at time of deletion, and have initiated discussion with Geni about the delete decision. THanks again for your feedback & hand-holding. I'm sure newbies like me make you want to pull out your hair! Kathycha 06:17, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mainstreet singers

Hey I was wondering why you deleted the Mainstreet singers page. Ive read the articles about why things are deleted and this dosent seem to fit in any of the catergories. The group was formed around 23 years ago and the roster is refreshed everyear. The group has traveled for over 120 international concerts and are known worldwide for their classical music. We have a indepedent label that sells our CDs, and we do make revenue from some of our concerts.

Chaosfactor941 20:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for writing

Thanks a lot for writing me, I totally agree with you with the defined criteria to grant the quality of the content. but I am totally against removing the page. I think rather than removing the page. you might need to edit and refine the page to make sure of the content.

Deletion is not the answer.

Amr eladaway —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 07:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Bagshot Pirates

Hi, I am just wondering why you deleted the Bagshot Pirates page. I was not finished with the page, and would have liked to spend a bit more time on it. I was looking to make an article on most of the notable FML teams.

Please could you explain to me why it was deleted?

Thanks! Blake01 16:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

request block for Joshyboy1000 (talk · contribs)

This user has been harrassing FisherQueen (talk · contribs), and I think it would be useful for another admin to block. Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony 16:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FQ took care of it. NawlinWiki 16:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks anyway. - CobaltBlueTony 16:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why

Hello! I wondering why you deleted my page "Devotion". I understand, why you deleted my page. Please could you explain to me why it was deleted?

Thanks! User:Artur9501 (User talk:Artur9501) 20:06, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Curious

Hey, I was wondering why you deleted my article on Elizabeth Andrus because it really is an old, almost forgotten legend. Just because it sounded weird does not mean it was false. Thanks, Bye now Sweetie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Codyanswers (talk • contribs) 19:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC) _____________________[reply]

Deletion

YOu deleted the article under the band CaRiMi. The same band that has been referenced in the following wiki articles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levitasyon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti

Another band that has less sucess then them in the same genre was able to create a wikipedia entry. Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mp231 (talk • contribs) 20:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Decentralism

Hello, I posed this question to 23skidoo, but he appears to be incommunicado. So, I hope you can answer this for me.

I would like to create an article on the political philosophy of Decentralism (as advocated by men like E. F. Schumacher, Leopold Kohr, and Ivan Illich). However, currently, Decentralism redirects to Decentralization. Now, while these concepts are certainly related, the latter articles defines and describes a process, with a concentration on decentralization in business and economics. The article I intend to create is of rather a different sort, more philosophical, though with examples of projects started or inspired by the men I named, as well as others. What I am asking is, what is the policy as to changing decentralism from a redirect to an article of its own? Should I just be bold and start the article, with a disambiguation link at the top: For the process in business and economics, see Decentralization. Would that be enough? Thank you, in advance, for any assistance you can give. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 20:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's what I will do. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your new friend

Seems that you've torqued off the fellow who calls himself User:Liquid2ice. You now have your very own Wikipedia article, but it's not without its NPOV problems. :) --PMDrive1061 04:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I was writing an entry about the comedy duo Vena und Schnitzel and you deleted it before I could finish. Not very happy. I thought this was the people's encycopedia. Its hard to be involved if over-efficent "administrators" without an understanding of comedy are attacking new entries. I'm afraid there is more to the world than your American entries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Critter beach (talk • contribs) 14:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Complex investigations discussion

Hi there. I've just left a post at User talk:Charles Matthews about complex investigations. It's hidden away in this post. I mentioned you there, so I thought I'd invite you over to comment. Hope that's OK. Carcharoth 15:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

THANKS!

Thanks for helping out with the neutral point of view for Christianity.com! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cindy22 (talk • contribs) 15:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ng Chee Bye

Regarding Ng Chee Bye article, the reason given is mistaken, which should be that the only contributor is Kiewzhenyi. I'm the user putting up the csd.Cocoma 16:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think I broke my talk page

I was attempting to archive my talk page at User talk:Improbcat/Archive1/ with the page history intact. I moved my talk page there, with the intention of creating a new page at User talk:Improbcat. Unfortunately now clicking on the discussion tab for my userpage brings you to the archive, and I can't figure out how to get it to stop. Can you either fix the problem or revert the edits back to before I started messing with it? Thanks in advance. Improbcat 17:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, it looks like whatever server burp was causing it has corrected itself. Improbcat 17:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Eddie Anaclet

An article that you have been involved in editing, Eddie Anaclet, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eddie Anaclet. Thank you. robwingfield ^«T•C» 23:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update to Update for Kay.K.BayZ

Hi,

Have you had a chance to re-asses since my lost post (Number 51)?

Regards,

)

KudretKayKBayZ 00:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TO NAWLINWIKI! WHY DID YOU DELETE THE PHILIP WINCHESTER ARTICLE????? lollenplayer x

The Vital Spark Conference

I was disappointed to see that you had deleted this page for lack of notability.

The Vital Spark Conference was the largest conference on Heritage Interpretation ever to have taken place in Europe. With 320 delegates from across the world, it marked a landmark event in the development of the discipline, and as a one-off event is unlikely to be repeated in Europe within the next five years. This was an immensely notable event for Heritage Interpretation and I feel needs to be part of Wikipedia.

The conference was a major event within Highland 2007 (see press release here - http://www.highland2007.com/default.aspx.locid-07lnew06n.Lang-EN.htm )receiving generous support and funding from bodies including Historic Scotland, Scottish Natural Heritage and the National Museums of Scotland. We received coverage in a whole variety of media including the Scotsman newspaper - http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1577882007 and the Herald newspaper - http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.1730517.0.0.php

Interpretation is the communication of messages about natural and cultural heritage. As such, Wikipedia and other internet sites were discussed in a number of presentations and keynotes - particularly with respect to user generated content. I would be saddened if after this, the conference is deemed 'not notable enough' to have a single page on wiki. Please could you consider allowing this vital event to have its page or let me know what changes that I can make to fit the criteria?

Barnstar served hot!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I award NawlinWiki this barnstar for pretty much always being at CSD whenever I'm there, working to separate the wheat from the chaff as well as in keeping the backlog low! Phgao 14:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Racism edits

I was trying to fix multiple vandalism. It took me a while. PS, I'm an admin. :< NawlinWiki 15:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes of course. I've seen, but too late :p Sorry Martial BACQUET 15:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recreating a previously deleted band article

Hello, NawlinWiki. In January you deleted an article on "Jucifer". I would like to recreate it, and have been investigating the "notability" requirements for bands. I was curious if band, concert and album reviews in third-party national publications (i.e. Alternative Press) are sufficient to establish notability. From one fellow (former) New Orleanian to another, thank you for taking the time to read my request! 93octane 16:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Ji Bai

Hi there. I noticed you deleted the page Ji Bai. Please be informed that Ji Bai should not be deleted as it is a slang commonly known and used by many in Southeast Asia and places with Chinese. Since there is a category for Slang, I do not see a reason why Ji Bai needs to get deleted while other entries in the Slang category does not. I am not attacking G10. I'm a Singaporean and I personally use and seen others use it. It's a pity that not many edited the page but those natives would know this phrase and use it.kiewzhenyi 12:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More Eden Montana-Caceda hoaxes

Hi. You might want to check out BecF and 67.169.128.179 as they seem to be the same user as Nede and EdenM-C that you gave a warning to. In particular, there's an Eden Montana link on the Selby the Talking Dog (TV series) page. Ttwaring 13:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Soulja Boy

The protection log says you protected the page. I am trying to have something that was posted on the talk page added to the article, it has an included source for it. I tried to contact the person who last protected the article, but their page was protected. Please add the information to the article if you have a moment. I also wrote something for Lil Wayne that is posted on the talk that I would like added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.193.220.202 (talk) 14:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to write on their talk page, however there is no edit option. Can you possibly alert them to the section for me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.193.216.216 (talk) 16:29, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not interested in having an account, I am just interested in contributing where I can. I would appreciate if you can bring the sections to his attention so he can hopefully add what I wrote. If this is not possible, please let me know why and who I can possibly contact to have it added. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.193.221.144 (talk) 17:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ban threat

I just recieved a threat to be banned on my talk page. Is this a joke or serious? If it is seriois, how long will it be? User:Supercheesebwoi Please reply on my talk page.

Salt

Not sure if this is the proper place, but since you've deleted the Terawatts article several times, do you think a salting is called for? SashaCall ^(Sign!)/_(Talk!) 22:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Radio Station speedy deletes

Thanks for jumping in on that slew of speedy delete requests on radio station articles.--Rtphokie 01:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Foxxonomics

I apologize for the information that seemed to be advertising. I just started working for the company and I was getting approached by many people including family and friends that wanted to know more about my employer. I figured Wikipedia would be a good site to send them to. If I can edit the page, will it be reconsidered for admition? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTFOXX (talk • contribs) 11:53, October 12, 2007

Propaganda (design)

Hello,
can you help me to better write the article on Propaganda so that it is best suited to Wikipedia. I love this brand and the many they got awards. Thanks a lots --Leniw 16:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

Hello, thanks for blocking that offensive account, it's much appreciated. --Kyoko 16:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Virus on the tissue

Hi. Just so you know, he vandalized again. That's why I contested his unblock. Cheers,Je t Lover (Report a mistake) 21:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

It's no fun trying to tag article for speedy deletion when you've already gotten there first. D:
Just kidding. Keep up the good work! shoy 21:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Polite Request

Hi, please don't delete material in my userspace, and redirects from my doppelgänger accounts to my present user and talk pages. If I do desire their deletion, I'm perfectly capable of doing so myself, I really don't appreciate a trigger happy admin deleting stuff that doesn't need to be deleted. I guess this might have been done when I deleted my userpage for a while, but as I was never told these redirects had been deleted and I really do want them kept so anybody coming across my old signature can still reach me, I'm really not impressed. Nick 22:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

212.139.68.157

I would like to push for a week long block. These are really serious offenses here, only vandalized userpages and made threats. Cheers,Je t Lover (Report a mistake) 00:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Rubbersoul20

Hello. I see you already blocked Rubbersoul20 (talk · contribs) in September 2007 (I saw it in the block log, because he erased it from his page). You may want to look at his new tricks at (SPOILER WARNING) WP:ANI section "User:Rubbersoul20 - Persistent harassment/uncivility, OR, POV, {fact} removal". Regards. — Komusou ^talk @ 08:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

West Eurasia

Please post the content of the deleted West Eurasia article, under the terms of the GFDL, you do not have the right to modify my contribution without giving credit to the earlier version of the article. You are welcome to post that content on my User Talk page. Libertyvalley 20:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He hasn't modified it but deleted it and your claim that he can't is evidently false. Please drop it, Liberty, SqueakBox 20:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nawlin, you are requested to re-post the content of the deleted article West Eurasia on my User Talk page. I am not contesting your right to delete it from article space. I am asking you to have some consideration of the value of my content, as an author, even if there was an element of WP:POINT involved. I intend to use that content in an RfC in the future. Libertyvalley 20:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Visy Industries

Hi, I noticed you deleted the above citing WP:CSD#R1 however it looks like you actually deleted a legitimate article (possibly without checking its history) that a user created a redirect over - specifically see this deleted edit. Can you confirm if this was the case as the company is gettign a bit of press right now and it seems odd there's no article there.

Thanks :) Glen 00:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Woggy...

was blocked for a week by you for personal attacks. Well, it looks like they've started it up again - apparently you should be in the Guinness Book of World Records for being the "unfairest" (is that even a word?) admin in the world. Just bringing it to your attention. Thanks, NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 00:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. He apparently had second thoughts about that comment (since he deleted it). I'm not sure a permanent block is warranted. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd probably leave it at a week, but keep watching for a bit to see how he reacts (although I'm rather fanatically on the AGF side - I've been an admin for two years and have permanently blocked maybe 10 people). -- Rick Block (talk) 04:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They've removed messages before [6], they may think it gives them a clean slate. 95% of their contribs are vandalism, the other 5% are violations of WP:OWN. They were sufficiently warned for vandalism and they were told that they could be indefinitely blocked after the first attack, but they still deliberately attacked an admin. I think a permanent block is warranted here. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 19:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

my page deletion

Hello, I was in the middle of making a page for a punk rock band, "Hashish". But it was deleted. Please can you explain why because I am new to this whole Wikipedia thing. thanks a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keegam (talk • contribs) 14:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I have looked at the WP music page, but it's full of jargon. Can YOU please just tell me in plain english why the page was deleted, and what I have to do to have it accepted. thanks a lot for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keegam (talk • contribs) 14:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

. . .

Ok thanks for the info, it's clear to me now.

I have a couple of things I can show you...

an article from an online newspaper:

[7]

and also a clipping from an article from an online music/arts magazine, which mentions a tour.

[8]

also this:

[9]

the Roxy Is a very famous music venue in LA. As you can see from that, the band in question "hashish" were performing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keegam (talk • contribs) 19:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know if this information is sufficent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keegam (talk • contribs) 19:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC) . . . Please can you try the 1st link again. The site is going very slow for some reason today, but it seems to be working right now. If not, I can maybe do a screen shot and show you that way.[reply]

Please tell me what else I need to do. I can show you posters/flyers of performances in the USA. will that be ok? I can show you the factory pressed CD album with the booklet. All profesionally produced. Please tell me what else I need. Thanks a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keegam (talk • contribs) 19:37, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please can you get back to me about this? Maybe you missed the recent adove message from yesterday. thanks a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keegam (talk • contribs) 16:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

.

The First link works for me just fine. Here is a screenshot of it: [10] also another article mentioning a tour: [11] and this might be useful, although it is in Spanish, you can see it mentions the Bands name, and news of their tour of LA and NY, in the title: [12] (it is an interview with the band) So you have those and you also have the previous evidence I showed you yesterday. .

.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Keegam (talk • contribs) 16:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC) == BUMP ==[reply]

Nawlin wiki

Just thought you ought to know that this article Nawlin wiki was created by Sokoru (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), with the content "u suck". I have speedy tagged it for deletion, obviously--Jac16888 19:04, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Divine Soldiers

I had not finished it yet, only updated so it was saved in case i somehow messed up. Before I recreate the article and finish it I want to get your permission. I don't want to end up wasting my time. Please either write me on user talk here or email me at mikeb8886@yahoo.com. Thank you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbuza (talk • contribs) 12:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rabbi Rocketpower

I'm curious why the Rabbi Rocketpower book series has been deleted? This is a series of books written to educate children on Jewish holidays similar to the Magic Treehouse books being written to educate children on history, geography, etc. Why would this book series be deleted, but that book series not be deleted? The article I wrote was not about an individual, rather a collection of children's books. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abeshaus6 (talk • contribs) 12:08, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert of my removal of the purge button

There appears to be a widespread misunderstanding on English Wikipedia about the behavior of the purge function on category pages. This was brought to my attention last night when an enwp user came into the tech IRC channel complaining that purging the category wasn't making his parserfunction timer induced category changes show up.

The category pages do not require purging to see fresh data. Sometimes updates to categories are delayed because either the changed pages have not been re-parsed, as was the situation with the user last night, or because the updates have not made it to the front of the workqueue yet, but neither of these things can be influenced by purging the category page. Yes, if there are changes being made to the category you will see the numbers change when you purge it, but you would equally see them change from simply reloading the page.--Gmaxwell 13:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Block

I think that IP address 69.213.37.24 should be blocked he has had a final warning and today I found him vandalising yet again (Whitnall School District) thank you Harland1 14:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

HIGHSCHOOL PLAYERS ARE NOTABLE!!!!

Why did you speedily delete my page entitled "Jason Benham", while saying that highschool players are not notable. This highschool player is obviously notable enough high school athletes aren't notable are they?. then explain this: T._A._McLendon. That highschool player is obviously notable enough. Your decision does not make sense. Please reconsider. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaymanbenham23 (talk • contribs) 22:34, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CHS/CoSA

I would like a better reason for the removal of this page, as I don't understand the current one, Also, I believe that several hours is too short an interval for a page (that was not empty, but had was not large) to be deleted. I'll make it longer the next time I have time, and recreate it.

PatentCafe Delete

Hi Nawlin -

I'm contacting you to discuss deletion of PatentCafe. I had posted the "Hangon" and posted an explanation, but the page was deleted as my talk was submitted.

First - as a publisher of an major online magazine www.ipfrontline.com - I'm sympathetic to your strict guidelines. By the same token, I maintain the same strict standards on articles that PatentCafe publishes. I consulted every WIKI guideline, as well as the objectivity rules we impose on contributed articles, to try and ensure that the PatentCafe article met those standards.

I will be very receptive to specific comments on how to modify this page - and in fact, I did modify significantly after the first Speedy Delete.

I took great care in developing objective, factual, and important-to-industry information about the company and its products. I believed that I followed both the spirit and letter of the guidelines.

Further, I tried to very closely model PatentCafe after the AT&T page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At%26t - one of PatentCafe's customers, and the company that recommended that I create the article on PatentCafe.

PatentCafe plays a very important part in the worldwide intellectual property community - as a thought leader and speaker to the world's patent offices, to developer of software to comply with current and pending patent regulations.

Again - while I indeed discussed PatentCafe in detail - I attempted to do so in a completely objective, nothing overstated, everything factual basis, addressing the business and core technology, market, and product links as I followed fro AT&T's article template.

Please let me know specifics on what needs to be done to have the PatentCafe article approved, and I will address those points a.s.a.p.

Thank you for your guidance.

AndyGibbs 11:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rabbi Rocketpower

Thank you for your response .... "Because, unlike the Magic Tree House series, which is published by major publisher Random House, Rabbi Rocketpower appears (for all I can tell) to be self-published, and there is no indication in the article of the series' notability, nor any reliable independent sources cited to show that the Rabbi series is notable"

This was very helpful. First...I don't think it should be held against someone to be self published (this book was published by Oak Leaf Systems, Bedford, MA). I have numerous independent sources that I can use to show that the series is notable. Can you inform me how I can put this back up and edit it to make in line with the required criteria? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abeshaus6 (talk • contribs) 12:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More Rocketpower

Thanks for the update. I'll create a page in my userspace and let you know when it's done. Any way I can get my old article so I don't have to redo everything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abeshaus6 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Adventures of...

Hey, why was The Adventures of Chap-Man and Chuff Dog deleted please? 90.192.60.33 18:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Adventures of Chap-Man and Chuff Dog

Hey, Why was The Adventures of Chap-Man and Chuff Dog deleted? It was a genuine article that WASN'T spam Gooners34 18:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Adventures of Chap-Man and Chuff Dog

Ahh okay. If i re-do the page, how can i make it so that it will not be deleted again?Gooners34 18:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The B.T.Us

The audacity to say that only famous people belong on wikipedia. The B.T.Us was the name of my gutair insturctor's band. I was just thinking that "hey maybe he would like to be on wikipeida" but no; your too good for us. Skew you

Notability of B.T.Us (band)

A tag has been placed on B.T.Us (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. shoy 14:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted NetAlert Article

How come you deleted this article? NetAlert has been mentioned in the news almost everyday. Source: http://news.google.com.au/news?q=netalert —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipeter777 (talk • contribs) 02:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On October 22, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tom Bolack, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Good to see you at DYK. And congrats on the deletion record! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shoemoney

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Shoemoney. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Juliawilk 17:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PMOG deletion

Aloha, can you undelete the PMOG article? I don't have all the information handy that I had put in there. I appreciate boilerplate, but the PMOG is a notable passive online game, and I though I had provided a variety of resources to indicate it as such. I think speedy deletion was a little too speedy on this one... Mahalo. --Jeffmcneill ^{talk contribs} 20:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aloha NawlinWiki, I was able to get a copy of the article out of the old Answers.com version, and recreated it within my User space here. Please let me know if you would reconsider the deletion, or would it be better to begin the deletion review process? Thank you for your time in responding to this. Cheers and mahalo. --Jeffmcneill ^{talk contribs} 22:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aloha NawlinWiki, the number of users and active users is not the sole criteria for notability. This is a game designed by Justin Hall who is notable to have his own Wikipedia page. Also, the game is designed as a passive game which is an emerging genre. There was coverage of this in quite a few places, including O'reilly Radar, USC (the school where this was created), various professional game conferences and a bunch of highly ranked sites such as Joi Ito, Eric Rice, etc. I really don't see how mainstream press is more legitimate that blogs when we are dealing with notability. Take a look at this google search. If you still disagree, I can start the deletion review process. Mahalo. --Jeffmcneill ^{talk contribs} 18:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's 69 unique Google hits, mostly from sites related to the PMOG project -- not nearly enough to indicate notability. I would say that yes, you should go to deletion review if you want to pursue this further. NawlinWiki 19:23, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That google search included "justin hall"+"passively multiplayer online game". I really don't understand how many google hits something needs to be notable, "not nearly enough" is unhelpfully vague. An editor has asked for a deletion review of Passively Multiplayer Online Game. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jeffmcneill ^{talk contribs} 20:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hagger and his ilk

I'm curious, the article Hagger and variants have appeared on my watchlist 3 times, yet I have never put them there. Since your name is on the list of protected against creation I was wondering if you might have an idea as to why this has happened.--LWF 22:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More Nede sockpuppets

There is yet another Eden Montana-Caceda page, this time created by Cacedachannel, presumably a sockpuppet of Nede. Another bogus page -The_Million_Faces_of_... - has also been created. Users 121.209.208.93 and Montana121 have been involved in edits to Mont and Eden Montana-Caceda . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttwaring (talk • contribs) 12:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Crown Fried Chicken

Can you please delete Crown Fried Chicken instead of redirecting the page to Kennedy Fried Chicken. I think it's better if there is only one article, which will include all the different names into Kennedy (the original name) because somebody may remove the redirct in the future. Thanks.--Khoriz 14:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DRV Notice

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Shoemoney. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.--- Jreferee t/c 15:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hasselberg, Rock, Bell & Kuppler

Please explain to me why this is any different from the other law firms or companies for which there are Wikipedia pages. Is it a sheer size thing? If "notability" is really what counts, I can include news links. THX —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hrbklaw (talk • contribs) 21:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hasselberg, Rock, Bell & Kuppler

Are you saying that adding a page about your own business involves a conflict of interest as to the notability issue, or that anything I write might be false? If it's just a notability problem, I'd argue that anyone reviewing for deletion can just assess that for themselves. I'll add some news links and try again.

However, I would point out that many other similar pages, like Katten Muchin Rosenman offer no suggestion why they are notable -- they seem to be mere dumps of basic promotional information from the company's website into wikipedia format. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hrbklaw (talk • contribs) 22:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I understand they're two different things. What I was asking is whether it's really worth my time to prove notability with secondary sources if you (or whoever) is just going to say "Hey, conflict of interest."

I purposely did not attempt to hide the fact that I'm affiliated with the subject, although that would have been very easy to do.

Also, linking to a cute page that basically says "All these arguments have been used before" doesn't do much to refute the argument. My point was that comparing Katten Muchin to the site that I put up, the only difference seems to be size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hrbklaw (talk • contribs) 22:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SOMOS UNOS

SOMOS UNOS, a political campaign, and THE FAIRNESS ACT PAC, a

> political action committee, were founded in 2006 by lobbyist and > political fundraiser, ANTHONY E. RAMOS, to address the domestic > immigration problem through the U.S. Congress. The stated purpose > of the campaign is to introduce and pass legislation that will > provide for basic visa rights for undocumented aliens now living > in the United States. A core premise is that the American > people will continue to reject any law that provides for > citizenship or 'amnesty' for undocumented aliens. Yet the > American people would support a law that documents illegal > aliens, allowing them to live in the United States legally. MR. > RAMOS was the principal organizer of the campaign and serves as > the campaign lobbyist and principal fundraiser.

www.somosunos.com.

Your stated reason was because you say Wikipedia does not promote political agendas.

In light of some of the searches which we conducted prior to attempting our entry. For example, the following political entities and/or campaigns, and the number of articles for each are on Wikipedia:

l. Republican Party USA: 1880 articles;

2. Democratic Party USA: 2952 articles;

3. 'Civil Rights' USA: 4441 articles;

4. Hamas - full page bio. write-up;

5. Hezbollah - full page bio. write-up;

6. Al Qaeda - full page bio. write-up.

As such, we find it extremely interesting that your reaction was so immediate, within 60 seconds, and so continuing. We dispute this, and wish to proceed with publication of our article. If someone wishes to discuss this with us, or believes that some of the language may not fit exactly with wikipedia, we are open to suggestion, since none of us every tried this before.

At the same time, however, this is one of the top five social issues facing Americans and we believe that documenting this historic event, just like the documentation of other historic events, is within Wikipedia's guidelines. We hope for an expedited and favorable response.

Thank you, —Preceding unsigned comment added by SOMOS1 (talk • contribs) 19:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Paul Spam

You deleted my article Ron Paul Spam in spite of the hangon tag I added as instructed. You deleted it before I even finished writing my explanation on the discussion page! This is not right, in my opinion, and I hope you will reinstate the page so that others can review it as well before making a decision about it. I have searched for a way to cite email messages on wikipedia and have found none. I you have a suggestion for me, I would love to hear it. I just want to get the information out there, about how the internet is being used to abuse the political process by scrupulous individuals, and campaigns can't even be held responsible.

Thank you,

Hackel 19:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re Ron Paul Spam: you wrote: "That's not what Wikipedia is for. Please read Wikipedia is not a soapbox, and also Wikipedia:Neutral point of view; Wikipedia:Notability, and Wikipedia:Verifiability."

Yes, I understand that and believe in all those ideals. Is not an aim of Wikipedia to basically document everything? Not to support any issue, but to describe the issue, and also to describe those people who have an opinion on the issue. That's all I'm trying to do. I would really appreciate it if you would take the time to show me a better way to get this information on Wikipedia that conforms to its guidelines, without seeming to be a "soapbox". Thank you. Hackel 19:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recreated Eliminated

Hey! i recreated the page Eliminated, and redirected it to Elimination. As some people might mean Elimination by writing Eliminated. Ilyushka88 19:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK October 29

On 29 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cathy Turner, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Andrew c ^[talk] 22:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Boswell

When deleting attack pages, please make sure you amend the default deletion summary so that potentially libellous or defamatory content does not get written into the deletion log. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 00:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaned up your user page and the Turner article

FYI. I cleaned up your user page from a vandal and the Cathy Turner article if you wish to look at both of them. Chris 01:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Thelaziness

Can I ask why Thelaziness was blocked for editing his own userpage? I accept that he has made some vandalism edits in the past but that appears to be unconnected to his actual block. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.20.16 (talk) 23:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gate One Krew

Greetings.

Wasn't deleting the article Gate One Krew a little hasty? --Marc ^Talk 00:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. I think you might be correct. I wasn't too sure what to do about it and asked for help. Was suggested I leave it a day or two, but what you say is true. Fair enough! --Marc ^Talk 00:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zthezombie

hi, I'm very new to being a member of wikipedia, however, I use it regularly for research and other things. I was wondering if you could point me to a page that gives instructions on citing articles, creating the detail boxes to the right of the screen, and how to create links, so I can create an article for Killing Chapel, a semi famouse band (if you live in PA)reviving the thrash metal scene, so it dosn't get deleted again. any help you could get me would be great. Thank you very much, -Z

Skeebopolis

Please delete this page again, thanks. Tiptoety 02:06, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Tiptoety 02:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Valente rodriguez - could you delete this one to please. Tiptoety 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Now re-creating the same article but under Valente Rodriguez. Tiptoety 02:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User: Zthezombie

thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zthezombie (talk • contribs) 02:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

iGreen

You deleted my article on the album "Shades Of Green" by the band iGreen. It said that I needed to cite a source. Well, I found a source, but when I went back to put it on there, the article was deleted and all my information is gone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Igreenband (talk • contribs) 14:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great Leader

My comments do not respect the NPOV policy, you say, but when the article says that our great leader was a dictator is oK. I am alway amazed by the partiality of capitalist and enemies of Korean people. Shame on you.87.65.213.114 21:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]