User talk:Munfarid1/2021

Precious

culture in Africa

Thank you for quality articles about culture in Sudan, such as Sudanese literature and Music of Sudan, in Morocco, such as Driss El Maloumi, for Makonde art, Damascus Opera House and much more from places where you lived, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2553 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt:Wow, I am more than pleased about your recognition. - Knowing a bit about your amazing support for Wikipedians and your interests (in music, literature and other traditional fields of Culture (sic!), this means a lot. - Generally, I do enjoy following up my experience of African or Arabic cultures that I have acquired over the years. - Meeting people from various cultural backgrounds, trying to understand and appreciate their artistic or intellectual activities has been very enriching. And through wp, I can now do research and share my interests with others. - I have a feeling, this applies to you, too? Viele Grüße Munfarid1 (talk) 13:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Danke! - nothing to add, - a good feeling --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Music of Sudan

The article Music of Sudan you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Music of Sudan for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of REDMAN 2019 -- REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Music of Sudan

The article Music of Sudan you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Music of Sudan for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of REDMAN 2019 -- REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:41, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your many observations and suggestions. It's been a pleasure to learn more about the requirements for a GA. This will certainly be useful for my future articles. Munfarid1 (talk) 19:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Thank you for the large amount of great content you have contributed to the encyclopedia. Ganesha811 (talk) 13:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the appreciation, it's always nice to know others are looking at my pages... Munfarid1 (talk) 16:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Munfarid1, I read them with interest after seeing the DYK link today. I really knew nothing about Sudan's culture, so between the lot of them, I learned a ton. Ganesha811 (talk) 17:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rashid Mahdi

Hi Munfarid1: I'd really like to pass the nomination for Rashid Mahdi, as I think it's a nice article. The only thing that's missing is a QPQ – that is, you need to review someone else's DYK nomination. (Once you've had five articles appear on the main page, that's a requirement, and you've now had 8.) The directions on how to do it are WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide. Please feel free to ping me if you have any questions! MeegsC (talk) 17:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @MeegsC:, thanks for this. I was very busy last week, but will do the review this weekend. Will ping you, when it's done. Munfarid1 (talk) 18:48, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @MeegsC: I have almost finished my first review, but there is one question I am not sure about: Could you perhaps have a look at this and tell me and the nominating user, if it is okay? - He has not put a pagename in bold, as it is usual. Thanks for your help! Munfarid1 (talk) 18:09, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cwmhiraeth, can you take a look at the article that Munfarid is reviewing and let us know what you suggest? I'm not sure how to fix it! Thanks, MeegsC (talk) 21:51, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MeegsC: I have added a sentence to the article lead with a bold title, which I think should suffice. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:21, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Cwmhiraeth, and now @MeegsC: can go ahead with finishing the final steps in his review of Rashid Mahdi.Munfarid1 (talk) 08:09, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Improving Sudanese Content

dear Munfarid1 Thank you for your messagr and we are glad to see your prinys on sudanese content on Wikipedia. Iam sharing links to articles you developed and encouraged thr community members for translatuon and afding pics as well. Please find the link to draft article about yusria mohammed alhassan Sudanese Artist i have translated from arabic article here in Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yusria_Mohammed_Alhassan

I think the community of Sudan in wikimedia is progressing nicely and hope you can joine the work we are planning. For details please see our community page in meta

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Sudan

Regards

Ola.mahadi (talk) 16:39, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Visual arts of Sudan

On 28 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Visual arts of Sudan, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that modern art in Sudan was suppressed from the 1980s until its revival in the Sudanese Revolution? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Visual arts of Sudan. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Visual arts of Sudan), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—valereee (talk) 12:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC) [reply]

Thank you for another good one! - See my talk today, - it's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true, and that the picture is shown on the Main page on a meaningful day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Report on the restitution of African cultural heritage

The article Report on the restitution of African cultural heritage you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Report on the restitution of African cultural heritage for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Citing -- Citing (talk) 00:22, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shaiqiya

Hello Munfarid, I noticed that you edited the Shaiqiya page and replaced every single "tribe" with "ethnic group". I know that "tribe" isn't well liked among many africanists, but I am fairly certain that the Shaiqiya are not to be defined as an ethnic group like "Arab" or "Nubian", but indeed as a tribe in the Arabic sense, the qabaliyya. By that definition, they are a branch of the larger Ja'alin tribe, the largest of the sedentary Sudanese "Arab" tribes. Let me know what you think. LeGabrie (talk) 13:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello LeGabrie, thanks for your comment, which I appreciate. While you are certainly right about the relation of Shaiqiya to Ja'alin and the sendentary Sudanese "Arabs", I share a reservation voiced by some anthropologists towards the term "tribe" in contemporary Africa. My reservation also relates to notions such as "tribal customs, warfare" etc. as mentioned for example in the article on tribe. Second, and as far as I can see, all WP articles referring to Sudanese tribes bear the specification (ethnic group) in their title, and this is another reason why I have changed the word "tribe" in this article to "ethnic group".

I am, of course, aware of the fact that both "tribe" and "ethnic group" are not always defined in a clear-cut way in social anthropology. Also, I know about the Sudanese usually referring to their ethnic or tribal background as qabaliyya, but this way of thinking is also being refused by modern Sudanese, who see themselves more as citizens of a modern society, and would like to leave tribal stereotypes behind.

The question you ask, is of course, which of the two terms is correct and in line with other WP articles, and I must confess that other than the reasons mentioned above, I am not sure, if there is a clear-cut answer. Let me know what you think, - and BTW, I see that we share some common interests relating to Sudan (e.g. I used some information on the Throne Hall of Dongola for my article Architecture of Sudan) and would certainly appreciate any further exchange of ideas to improve articles on cultural aspects of Sudan or East Africa. Munfarid1 (talk) 17:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Back when I used to study African studies I also had some reservations about using the term "tribe", especially in an African context. In any case, I feel that it is appropriate to label the Shaiqiya, Ja'alin, Danagla, Rufa'a and so on as such, simply because their identity is so heavily based on their supposed Arab genealogies (even if slowly abandoned by modern Sudanese).

Concerning my interest in Sudan, I am not as active on Wikipedia as I used to be, but I can certainly share material with you if you want. PS: Ich kann auch Deutsch :) LeGabrie (talk) 18:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I don't feel strongly about using "tribe" in an article like this, even though I wonder why all titles of articles about Sudanese ethnic groups have been labelled as such. If you want, you can go ahead and replace this term. Prompted by our discussion, however, I found this page, which discourages the use of "tribe" in favour of "ethnic group". Apart from the infobox for tribes, there is also a template for an infobox on ethnic groups. Maybe you want to make it even clearer in the article, how the Shaigiya, Ja'alin are referring to themselves in Arabic as "tribes" and not as larger ethnic groups?