User talk:Muffin Man 23

Welcome, Muffin Man 23!

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User:Mikehans777

Please do not edit other users' userpages. This may be considered a form of vandalism. If you want to contact them, leave a message on their User Talk page instead. Thank you. --The Fifth Horseman 08:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keynsham Town article

Hi Muffin Man. Take a look at York City F.C., which is a very good article on a non-league football club (albeit a former Football League club). You could add an info box (on the top right hand side), pictures, the current squad, staff and honours at the bottom of the page a la the York City article. If you lay the Keynsham Town article out in a similar way, you can't go far wrong. A problem though with the article, and the priority, is the lack of references to enable a reader to verify what has been written. WP:RS and WP:V will explain. If you can dig out reliable, independent, published sources for what's been written and add them to the article, that would be good. If you need help, just post on the non-league board[1] (as you have done and I see you have some advice already). Good luck! --Malcolmxl5 20:29, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments, but there aren't many third party published sources on a local football club. I will try and find some, and use them whenever possible, but for things like the first team, I think my dad is the most reliable source. Muffin Man 23

No worries, Muffin Man. You'll be surprised what there is around. Let's see how the article evolves over the next few month. I'll keep an eye on it from time to time. All the best. --Malcolmxl5 23:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keynsham Town F.C.

I removed management and players because they play at such a low level and are not notable. Number 5 7 12:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No offence, but you obviously have a WP:COI with the article. Players and managers of such a low level club are definitely not notable unless they have played/managed at a much higher level (i.e. League Two or above). Number 5 7 15:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored it, good luck with the page, unfortunately you're always going to get people who want to inflict their standards on to others pages. Journey Back To The Darkside 15:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Me again. I have been on the website that it appears you have copied and pasted from. Not only is this a possible copyright violation, but this page is old as proved in [2], as it clearly states Season 04/05. There have been changes since then like a new manager and also relegation. Muffin Man 23 19:32, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

What on earth are you talking about? All I did was delete the player and manager information. I suggest you check the edit history a bit more closely next time. Number 5 7 08:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Squad list

Whilst obviosuly none of the players are notable in the Wikipedia sense (i.e. having received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject), I don't see a major problem with having the squad list on the page, as long as it can be referenced to a reliable source. ChrisTheDude 09:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right as well. Journey Back To The Darkside 13:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MM, I got your message. The content of articles are determined by reference to Wikipedia policy and guidelines and by consensus. As it has been said that the management and players are not notable, WP:NOTE seems to be the relevant guidelines in play here. This however only applies to the subject of the article, e.g. Keynsham Town F.C., and not to the content, i.e. "The particular topics and facts within an article are not each required to meet the standard of the notability guidelines."; see the very last paragraph. I suggest you open a discussion on this to achieve consensus where you can quote WP:NOTE and also point out that other club such as Portishead A.F.C. has player/manager info. Personally, I go along with ChrisTheDude, so long as the info can be verified independently, there's no problem. --Malcolmxl5 07:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think citing the official website for the squad list would be OK. After all, Arsenal F.C. does just that, and that's a featured article..... ChrisTheDude 21:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. The official site is the obvious source so yes. I suggest that when it's up on the site, you ask someone to add it to the article and reference it to the official site to avoid any suggestion of 'conflict of interest', etc. --Malcolmxl5 21:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP's clock.....

.....uses Coordinated Universal Time ChrisTheDude 07:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Believeinuserboxes

Hi, this doesn't seem like a real user. Perhaps you were trying to so something else, therefore I moved the content from this page to a subpage of yours, User:Muffin Man 23/Believeinuserboxes. Thanks! If you need further help, please don't hesitate to post on my talk page or to put {{helpme}} followed by your question on this page. -- lucasbfr ^talk 19:57, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of Le tour de Keynsham

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Do I smell some slight irony here? ;-)....anyway, that is why it is called speedy deletion....and we don't get payed, we just get a kick out of deleting materiel out of hand, regardless of merit (now, that was irony). So, no, generally speaking it s not of importance if an article is poor (who would decide that, anyway), but, as mentioned above, it was purely the question of notability....if you wish to contest the deltion, you may do so at WP:DRV. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar 08:15, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Portal theories

Feel free to post your theories here

Based on the information in the guide: You play Chell after escaping Apeture in EP3. Guide Spoilers: The cake is not a lie. But it is Soylent Cake, and nobody else is in the Apeture labs... GLaDOS bites the dust at the end. NodPilot42 14:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keynsham Town F.C.

Greetings, Muffin Man, how are you keeping? I thought I might take a look at the Keynsham Town F.C. article over the next few weeks and perhaps rewrite some bits as I seem to remember there was some questions over parts being copied from elsewhere. Let me know if you prefer that I didn't do this. All the best now. --Malcolmxl5 23:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message, Muffin Man. I'll start by gathering sources of information in my sandbox so you'll probably see nothing happening to the article for a couple of weeks. If you know of any decent sources - has someone written a book about the football club perhaps? - drop me a line. Good luck with the website. --Malcolmxl5 20:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, Muffin Man. Would you have a look at my sandbox and let me know what you think? --Malcolmxl5 21:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use image in userspace

You have created a userbox at User:Muffin Man 23/Portal which contains a non-free image, but non-free images are not allowed on user pages. You'll want to remove it. Thanks. --Sopoforic 13:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the image from the userbox. EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:50, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keynsham Town F.C.

I have moved the contents of my sandbox to the Keynsham Town F.C. article; let's see if it sticks! --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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