User talk:Mrs McCoy

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Your submission at Articles for creation: The MLC School House System in detail (December 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Wikiisawesome was:

So far the only reference is published by the school in question (see the first few pages—"Published by MLC School Burwood in association with Ayers & James Heritage Books"). That makes it a primary source that is not independent of the subject. If reliable, independent (third-party) sources cannot be found on the subject, then I would suggest moving some of the well-referenced content to MLC School#House System. Thanks,

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/wia /tlk 00:45, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: The MLC School House System in detail (December 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the general guideline on notability and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.
What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.

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SwisterTwister talk 05:36, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Photos on MLC School

Hello, Mrs McCoy. Recently, you uploaded a number of photographs for use on MLC School. You claimed that these photographs are your own original work, despite some of them being over 120 years old. I am doing my best to follow Wikipedia's guideline of assuming good faith, but I struggle to accept that you personally took photos from the 1800s. I have not put together a complete list, but some examples are:

1886-Rev-Charles-Prescott.jpg
Miss Lester circa 1880.jpg
COOK nee SHEPPARD Elsie.jpg
Syd and Elsie Cook during their time serving in World War One.jpg

Wikipedia takes matters of copyright very seriously, so unless you can provide some explanation of how you managed to take these pictures, I will have to request their removal. Gronk Oz (talk) 13:45, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gronk Oz

Sorry, have yet to attach sources to all images, but below is the reason I uploaded these images. Is there another way other than the method I used? I apologise, I am new to this and did not intend to mislead anyone.

These images are of Australian origin and are now in the public domain because its term of copyright has expired. According to the Australian Copyright Council (ACC), ACC Information Sheet G023v17 (Duration of copyright) (August 2014).

A Photographs or other works published anonymously, under a pseudonym or the creator is unknown: Copyright has expired if taken or published prior to 1 January 1955
B Photographs (except A): Copyright has expired if taken prior to 1 January 1955
C Artistic works (except A & B): Copyright has expired if the creator died before 1 January 1955
D Published editions* (except A & B): Copyright has expired if first published more than 25 years ago
E Commonwealth or State government owned** photographs and engravings: Copyright has expired if taken or published more than 50 years ago and prior to 1 May 1969
* means the typographical arrangement and layout of a published work. eg. newsprint.
** owned means where a government is the copyright owner as well as would have owned copyright but reached some other agreement with the creator.

Mrs McCoy (talk) 23:35, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have added controls to your comments above to make them legible. I am not sure how to correct the licensing, so I have asked at the Teahouse - with any luck we will have a solution soon.--Gronk Oz (talk) 04:31, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The bottom line is that you should never, ever, ever claim that a photo is your "own work" unless you actually took the photo yourself. The licensing at Commons needs to be changed by editing the image information pages there. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:37, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to the good folks at the Teahouse (including Cullen, above), we figured out how to sort these out. I know it might sound like a hassle, but it is better than having the files deleted. The process is to open each image in Wikimedia Commons (I will assume you know how to do that since you uploaded them there: let me know if you need a hand). Looking at the image's description page, make the following corrections:

Edit the “Summary” section as follows:
1. Change the source from {{own}} to be the actual source of the photo (if unknown, say {{unknown|source}} ).
2. Change the author from [[User:Mrs McCoy|Mrs McCoy]] to the actual photographer (if unknown, say {{unknown|author}} ).
Edit the “Licensing” section to change the licence from {{self|cc-by-sa-4.0}} to {{PD-Australia}}.

I hope that helps; please get back to me if you need a hand.--Gronk Oz (talk) 06:49, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for this information Gronk Oz, incredibly helpful.

I am not certain how to enter Wikimedia Commons, but I will give it a try. (I uploaded the images by clicking the image icon.)

At the moment I am on a 2 week Xmas break. I will tend to this first thing on my return from holidays on 6 Jan.

Happy holidays and best wishes for 2016.

Mrs McCoy (talk) 08:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Mrs McCoy. I trust your break is enjoyable and refreshing. Once you're ready to get back to it, the easiest way to get to the Wikimedia Commons entry for a given photo is as follows (I use a Windows PC; if your configuration is different then some of the details may be slightly different):

Start from the MLC School page, and click on an image (point your cursor at the middle of the picture and click). This opens a full-page version of that image.
Towards the lower right corner, you will see a glue logo with the text "More details" - click it.
This should take you to the "Wikimedia Commons" page where the image is stored; you can confirm this at the top left of the page. There should be an "Edit" tab near the top that will allow you to make the changes above.

Again, let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

Once we get the photos sorted out, I would like to move on to address a couple of other issues with the article - but first things first, let's get those images safe. The "public domain" licence should apply for any Australian photo taken before 1966 (i.e. more than fifty years ago). Other photos will still be under copyright, and will need further discussion.--Gronk Oz (talk) 12:38, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gronk Oz

I hope your Xmas break was relaxed and enjoyable.

I have made the changes the the photos on the MLC School site as per your helpful suggestions. There are a couple I would like you to have a look at; specifically the Burwood Memorial Arch photo and the Max Dupain 'Violinist' photo. Can you check that I've done these right.

You mention that there are some other issues with the article. Can you let me know what needs addressing and I'll get right to it.

I am an ex-student of the School and I wanted to upload the archival information and photography I hold from my many years of association with the School so that other people can have access to it. (My niece gave me a quick wikipedia tutorial, but as you have no doubt guessed, I am a newbie and am grateful for all the advice I can get.)

Thank you again for all your assistance and patience. I couldn't have done it without you.

Warm regards Mrs McCoy (talk) 06:34, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Interested parties should visit Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Mrs McCoy to sort the licencing issue out. Fiddle Faddle 13:09, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: The MLC School House System in detail (December 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was:

Whatever this is about it needs to be part of an article on the particular school. We will not consider it in isolation. Which school is this?

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Fiddle Faddle 12:41, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

File source problem with File:Miss Lester circa 1880.jpg

Thank you for uploading File:Miss Lester circa 1880.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the page from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of the website's terms of use of its content. If the original copyright holder is a party unaffiliated with the website, that author should also be credited. Please add this information by editing the image description page.

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