User talk:Mountain Instructor

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rock Climbing Instructor Award (July 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Theroadislong (talk) 14:52, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The ML article has obvious problems that are already needed to show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.

I don't know whether RCI is notable of not, but it had other problems.

You had no in-line references of any kind, let alone independent third-party sources
You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. Your text was more that 55% copied from their website.
There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in th"e "References" or "External links" sections. You had several in-text links to their website, these amount to spam links. One link in External links" is all you should have
You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews. Unreferenced text I considered promotional included Whether you're a parent, a volunteer or an outdoor centre instructor, the Rock Climbing Instructor qualification trains and assesses experienced rock climbers to instruct climbing. and in particular Details of the syllabus changes can be seen by visiting this blog article... please visit the Mountain Training website.

Basically a promo rather than an encyclopaedia article. I saw your denial of having a COI, so I won't pursue that. If you try again and want me to have a look, let me know. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:04, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]