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Grombalia High School

I have removed your PROD from this school. High Schools are considered notable per general community consensus.

If there are issues with the content (which you seem to have correctly pointed out), then you should tag the article with WP:TEMP. Cheers. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 19:14, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Re: Possible translation?

Hi Moumou82, Thanks for contacting me regarding the translation of Statuette de Ganymède. Indeed, it seems like an interesting article and I can see that you contributed to its status on the French Wikipedia. Congratulations of the featured article! I would be happy to work on this translation but I'm rather busy with (paid) work at the moment. I also see that you contacted Beth Holmes 1 about the translation but I'm not sure how active (or otherwise busy) she is. Perhaps we could collaborate on the translation in my userspace. I propose starting an outline of the translation there, and filling it in, section by section. When we're satisfied that the article is good enough we can move it from userspace to article space and submit a Did You Know blurb about it, so the article can appear on the front page. This is a good step toward eventually getting it good article and featured article status on the English Wikipedia. Getting this through the initial stages will likely take some time (especially since I'm busy). Please let me know if you're in a rush to try to get the English article done. Merci et vinaka vakalevu! - tucoxn\^talk 22:29, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

I'd also like to ask if you have access to any hard copies of the books from the French article's bibliography. It seems like several of them are not available online and it would help to have someone who can access them. Thanks! - tucoxn\^talk 22:33, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks Tucoxn for your answer! For sure, there is no hurry to translate this article, just a nice idea to make this piece of art known to the most people. The article has mainly been written by Pradigue who still has access to all of them and can help if needed. Moumou82 (talk) 19:26, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

I've started a very basic translation of the outline here: User:Tucoxn/Statuette of Ganymede. For the time being, I'm welcoming collaboration on this project. I anticipate that it would take a while for me to complete on my own. - tucoxn\^talk 23:11, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for inviting me to work on it and sorry for the delay getting back to you. Tucoxn, I will try to get some done today. Beth Holmes 1 (talk) 10:16, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Beth Holmes 1. Thanks for helping with the leade paragraph. I made an edit to it relating to the citation style. I think we should use Harvard citations in this article because it should make it easier to standardize the citation style. I'm not sure id you're familiar with Harvard citations. The way to use a Harvard-style citation is <ref>{{harv | last name(s) of author(s) | year | p=page number or pp=page range }}</ref>. There's more explanation on the page for the template but it's a bit complex (it took me a while to figure it out). An example of a short translated page using Harvard citations is Prince Pierre, Duke of Penthièvre. I need to add the other references from the French page into the English bibliography since the French article had about 9 references using a different ref style -- not using a standardized reference format throughout the whole article will raise an immediate flag for the English GA/FA reviewers. I'm looking forward to collaborating with you more. - tucoxn\^talk 20:53, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

I've not met those before but will give them a try - thanks for pointing it out. I agree about the French article using mixed reference styles, I was surprised that was considered ok over there. I'm still using "cite web" for the url's though, there doesn't seem to be a Harvard version of those?Beth Holmes 1 (talk) 13:45, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I think I learned Harvard citations when I was translating a different article, so this may be a good way to figure them out. The way to use the {{cite web}} template is to put the citation (including that template) in the list of sources (bibliography) and use a Harvard-style citation in the text. It gets tough when the cite web source doesn't have an author name and/or year. I'm sure there's a way around those problems, though. - tucoxn\^talk 23:22, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

La problem avec un lien avec Wikipedia français

Bon soir Moumou82. J'ai trouve la solution a ma probleme. J'ai utilise :fr: en place de fr: et ça marche bien. Cantab72 (talk) 21:20, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

OK pour las systeme - mais votre mots ne marche pas - voir les mots rouge. Cantab72 (talk) 09:24, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

@Cantab72: Bonsoir, il faut garder à l'esprit que nous sommes ici sur Wikipédia en anglais, par conséquent les liens doivent pointer vers les articles dans cette langue. Or, il se trouve que le sujet de l'interconnexion électrique France-Espagne n'a pas encore d'article en anglais, d'où le fait que le lien est pour l'instant rouge. Cependant, vous aurez sans doute remarquer le petit "(fr)" à côté du lien rouge et qui pointe vers l'article en français, le but étant de signaler aux anglophones qu'un article en français existe et qu'il peut être traduit en anglais si quelqu'un en a la capacité et l'envie. Moumou82 (talk) 23:06, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

S'il y a un article en français, ça suffit - le but c'est d'encourager les gens qui ne comprend pas d'anglais d'apprendre un peu de français! Sérieusement, par ce sujet, il y a des references en anglais que j'ai ajouté sur cette ligne. Aussi, je crois que l'acronym (est-ce c'est un mot correcte en français?) INELEF est meilleur que la titre HVDC France Spain parce que toutes les lignes dans la texte s'agitent des liens HVDC. Cantab72 (talk) 09:59, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

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Aéroport International de Bali Nord

Hi Moumou82, I take it you just looked at this article on French Wikipedia. I have reason to believe that the article creator is actually conflicted. The Wikimedia commons upload of airport schematics gives his name as "Wilhem Marceny". A google search identifies someone with this name as senior staff member at Airport Kinesis, one of the companies leading this project. You may want to initiate appropriate steps within the remits of Fr Wikipedia. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 09:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

About deleting Saif Ben Ammar page

hello first of all we want to clarify that we are a group of editors

we love editing and we want to create wiki pages for some internet celebrity's and we started with Saif Ben Ammar

it's true we know them and he himself participated in editing his page , and that doesn't mean that we dont have right to write about them i guess

we want to insist about the sources , some claims about the fact that saif isn't the main topic , well this is not true

and other sources were talking about " karma " wich is his own movie and he created that ( please verify the sources )

we tried to create this in several wiki platefoms , it's just because we want to do that , we felt that it s an empty field ( tunisian intenet people ) so we want to create some stuff

and again please verify the sources because there are over 10 and all of them are talking about saif and saif's work

thank you

Saliha

I've just moved Draft:Saliha (singer) into "article-space": Saliha (singer) (after making some minor changes to it). If you have any free time, your edits to it would be very welcome: you're surely much better qualified to edit it than I am (appallingly bad French, no Arabic, no knowledge of Tunisian music). -- Hoary (talk) 22:43, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Organisations

It is disruptive to rename categories without discussion, as you are doing to the Tunisian ones (such as this edit). Please desist and revert your changes. Oculi (talk) 22:46, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Please stop changing category spellings by yourself. Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_May_15#Organizations_based_in_France is an example of how to do it. Let me know if you need help in understanding the instructions at WP:CFD.– Fayenatic London 23:10, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

@Oculi and Fayenatic london: Thanks for your messages, I am sorry if you consider these changes as disruptive and would appreciate we apply WP:GF.

Maybe I misread the 2017 discussion but the consensus was to rename categories to Option B which is using the Z spelling, am I getting it right? When I look at Category:Business organizations by country for example, this category is using the Z spelling but country-level categories are still a mix of Z and S spelling. Are you saying this complete inconsistency is fine? I have looked at Category:Business organizations based in Albania, Category:Business organizations based in Gabon and others, and similar moves than mine have been performed months or even years ago, most importantly without any trace of them going through WP:CFD as you request. I would fully understand your revert if my changes would have gone against the 2017 discussion outcome, however my move is compliant with it and just not submitted to WP:CFD (I am not familiar with it). I suspect the longer this inconsistency will remain in place, the longer you will have such instances of good-willing people just trying to be compliant. Moumou82 (talk) 06:41, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Each country uses either S or Z for all its organisation categories. UK and connected nations use S, US and connected nations use Z. Some editors (myself included) made a general proposal that all (or at least all all other) countries should use the -z- spelling for organization categories, but this did not gain consensus. There may be no good reason for the spelling used for some countries, but they need a full CFD on a case-by-case basis for each country hierarchy to change over. That 2017 discussion was just for France. – Fayenatic London 07:37, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

You are right about Albania: see here. I seem to recall nominating Albania for 'z' once as it is z everywhere else in the Balkans but these are often surprisingly contentious. This was the RFC: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 153#RFC: spelling of "organisation"/"organization" in descriptive category names. There is no consistency whatever in Category:Organizations based in Africa by country so the best one can hope for is keeping each country internally consistent. I did nominate Greenland once for z but that was immediately and vehemently opposed: 2019 June 24#Organisations based in Greenland. Oculi (talk) 12:48, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

@Oculi and Fayenatic london: Thanks both for your insight. I guess submitting a CFD for a single non-English speaking country would not make much sense if there is no community consensus for any kind of standardization. It is a pity though because this can create duplicate entries in Wikidata, this is how I came up to discover the inconsistency and tried to identify which of the spelling was the one to keep. Moumou82 (talk) 18:50, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for merging duplicates in Wikidata. I noticed that you had made other helpful updates there. In English Wikipedia, the intention is to have a category redirect for the other spelling corresponding to every organisations category. User:BrownHairedGirl set these up using a bot a few years ago, but they may of course be missing for any newly-created organisations categories. You might be able to able to trace category redirects that have a Wikidata page using PetScan. (In a few cases, you might find some where I intentionally linked various category redirects left behind in different-language Wikipedias after merges.)

For what it's worth, I have just recorded some of the above info at Category talk:Organizations by country. @Oculi: feel free to add more. – Fayenatic London 21:44, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

The only exception for Tunisia was Scientific organizations, created by Rathfelder who sprinkled 'z's and 's's randomly and at great speed among his many creations. Rathfelder failed to put this in the Tunisia organisations tree which is why it was missed for many years. (There may of course be others adrift of their country trees.) Oculi (talk) 01:29, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

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I want you to create a new article for a handball player. Please help as much as you can. Thank you

Hello @Moumou82 I hope you are fine :) I had a request from you to write a useful article for this player, Mr. (Moslem Kazemi) 1.EHF profile .2 [1].3 2022 IHF Men's Beach Handball World Championship. 4 Moslem Kazemi's presence in Al-Kazme Kuwait's group stage match of the 2023 Asia Men's Handball Clubs Cup .5 (the news) :1 The presence of Moslem Kazemi in Al-Kazema and representing India 2 In the Asian Beach Handball Championship, he won the right to participate in the World Championship. 2022 Asian Beach Handball Championship 3Iranian men's premier league .So far, I think this person is famous . His reputation can be proven well .heck the sources yourself thank you :) It is interesting to know that his mother is French ALIREZA HASANVAND (talk) --ALIREZA HASANVAND (talk) 11:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC)11:02, 12 April 2024 (UTC) [User |talk]])

Hello,

You better submit your idea to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Handball that groups contributors interested in this sport, which is not my case. Moumou82 (talk) 06:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

@Moumou82Thanks, I told him to help us :) ALIREZA HASANVAND (talk) 15:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hammam Ouled Ali

Hi, you removed the photo saying "picture taken at another place". File:Hammam des Oulad-Ali 02.jpg says "Hammam des Oulad-Ali", Are you saying this description is confusing? If this is so, please make the description less ambiguous and remove the image from wikidata:Q42610654.

By the way, in arabic wikipedia ar:الحمام الروماني بلطة بوعوان the machine-translated text says: It is located in the Jendouba Governorate in northwestern Tunisia , specifically in the city of Ouled Ali. ; which one? Not listed here? --Altenmann >talk 21:06, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi,

The picture is from an archaeological site in Tunisia, which is both covered by ar:الحمام الروماني بلطة بوعوان and wikidata:Q42610654. The 1915 decree found here (third page) indicates it is close to the city of Ghardimaou. Moumou82 (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

The wikidata item wikidata:Q42610654 is titled "Ouled Ali Hammam". That's why I asked to remove the image from there. From your explanation I understand the title of Q42610654 is confusing. Please change it to less ambiguous one (I would have done it myself, but I don't know these things). --Altenmann >talk 17:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

I do not think "Hammam of Ouled Ali", which is the strict translation of the decree's name, would be less confusing, as it actually is even closer to the Algerian city name. It is not unusual to have multiple Wikidata items with similar names, the most important is to refer to their descriptions to differentiate them. Moumou82 (talk) 21:15, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. While I am here, I'd like you to take a look at Glossary of Arabic toponyms and Maghreb place name etymology. It looks like they are neglected by Arabic-speaking editors. --Altenmann >talk 22:35, 20 September 2024 (UTC)