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WikiCup 2012 January newsletter

WikiCup 2012 is off to a flying start. At the time of writing, we have 112 contestants; comparable to last year, but slightly fewer than 2010. Signups will remain open for another week, after which time they will be closed for this year. Our currrent far-away leader is Grapple X (submissions), due mostly to his work on a slew of good articles about The X-Files; there remain many such articles waiting to be reviewed at good article candidates. Second place is currently held by Ruby2010 (submissions), whose points come mostly from good articles about television episodes, although good article reviews, did you knows and an article about a baroness round out the score. In third place is Jivesh boodhun (submissions), who has scored 200 points for his work on a single featured article, as well as points for work on others, mostly in the area of pop music. In all, nine users have 100 or more points. However, at the other end of the scale, there are still dozens of participants who are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly!

The 64 highest scoring participants will advance to round 2 in a month's time. There, they will be split into eight random groups of eight. The score needed to reach the next round is not at all clear; last year, 8 points guaranteed a place. The year before, 20.

A few participants and their work warrant a mention for achieving "firsts" in this competition.

• 12george1 (submissions) was the first to score, with his good article review of Illinois v. McArthur.
• 12george1 (submissions) was also the first to score points for an article, thanks to his work on Hurricane Debby (1982)- now a good article. Tropical storms have featured heavily in the Cup, and good articles currently have a relatively fast turnaround time for reviews.
• Sp33dyphil (submissions) was the first to score points for a did you know, with Russian submarine K-114 Tula. Military history is another subject which has seen a lot of Cup activity.
• Sp33dyphil (submissions) is also the first person to successfully claim bonus points. Terminator 2: Judgment Day is now a good article, and was eligible for bonus points because the subject was covered on more than 20 other Wikipedias at the start of the competition. It is fantastic to see bonus points being claimed so early!
• Speciate (submissions) was the first to score points for an In the News entry, with Paedophryne amauensis. The lead image from the article was also used on the main page for a time, and it's certainly eye-catching!
• Jivesh boodhun (submissions) was the first to score points for a featured article, and is, at the moment, the only competitor to claim for one. The article, "Halo" (Beyoncé Knowles song), was also worth double points because of its wide coverage. While this is an article that Jivesh and others have worked on for some time, it is undeniable that he has put considerable work into it this year, pushing it over the edge.

We are yet to see any featured lists, featured topics or good topics, but this is unsurprising; firstly, the nomination processes with each of these can take some time, and, secondly, it can take a considerable amount of time to work content to this level. In a similar vein, we have seen only one featured article. The requirement that content must have been worked on this year to be eligible means that we did not expect to see these at the start of the competition. No points have been claimed for featured portals or pictures, but these are not content types which are often claimed; the former has never made a big impact on the WikiCup, while the latter has not done so since 2009's competition.

A quick rules clarification before the regular notices: If you are concerned that another user is claiming points inappropriately, please contact a judge to take a look at the article. Competitors policing one another can create a bad atmosphere, and may lead to inconsistencies and mistakes. Rest assured that we, the judges, are making an effort to check submissions, but it is possible that we will miss something. On a loosely related note: If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 00:12, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

If you were paying ANY attention at all...

You'd see that I'm trying to IMPROVE the UFC 146 page- why are you banning ME? I'm the one trying to HELP! Like fixing that nonsense edit about cowboys stadium. Give me 15 minutes to fix the entire article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.120.56.4 (talk) 02:44, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

So.....EDIT is improving? --Morning277 (talk) 02:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, sorry about that, just ignore that part. I assumed you were the rogue administrator. Look, it's ABSURD to delete a UFC championship fight page. There shouldn't even be a discussion.

If you pay attention, you will see that the DISCUSSION PAGE looks like the article will be kept. I am simply reverting vandalism. If you notice, I did not revert the location of the event. Also, I am a simple editor, not admin. --Morning277 (talk) 02:55, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Truth is, I'm a 19 year old firgin loser...never even held a girls hand. I just wanna lick klit and finger geespot pf a pretty blue eyed girl. I'll take anything...just ONE fingering- is that so hard? I have "girl pillows", long soft slender pillows I cuddle and kiss and pretend are pretty girls with blue eyes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.120.56.4 (talk) 02:57, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 February newsletter

Round 1 is already over! The 64 highest scorers have progressed to round 2. Our highest scorer was Grapple X (submissions), again thanks mostly to a swathe of good articles on The X-Files. In second place was Tigerboy1966 (submissions), thanks an impressive list of did you knows about racehorses. Both scored over 400 points. Following behind with over 300 points were Ruby2010 (submissions), Cwmhiraeth (submissions), Miyagawa (submissions) and Casliber (submissions). February also saw the competition's first featured list: List of colleges and universities in North Dakota, from Ruby2010 (submissions). At the other end of the scale, 11 points was enough to secure a place in this round, and some contestants with 10 points made it into the round on a tiebreaker. This is higher than the 8 points that were needed last year, but lower than the 20 points required the year before. The number of points required to progress to round 3 will be significantly higher.

The remaining contestants have been split into 8 pools of 8, named A through H. Round two will finish in two months time on 28 April, when the two highest scorers in each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers, will progress to round 3. The pools were entirely random, so while some pools may end up being more competitive than others, this is by chance rather than design.

The judges would like to point out two quick rules reminders. First, any content promoted during the interim period (that is, on or after 27 February) is eligible for points in round 2. Second, any content worked on significantly this year is eligible for points if promoted in this round. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which would otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:03, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Nass

Hi, I improved the display of some of the links cited in Abdulla Ahmed Nass, but there is more to do. Please see WP:Cheatsheet for a summary guide to formatting including links. – Fayenatic L (talk) 16:29, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I decided to remove the list of family members as non-encyclopedic. What are the references to "Arabian Nights"? Also, do you know which King of Bahrain is the "Sheikh Isa" in the picture?

I also noticed that you had been archiving this talk page by moving content down, which is not the usual way; see WP:ARCHIVE. I took the liberty of creating sub-pages for you, with an index box at the top, and trust that you have no objection. I'd be happy to put it back if you don't like it. – Fayenatic L (talk) 21:16, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the help with Nass for for fixing the talk page here. I was trying to make it look more professional but got bored before looking up how to do with. Thanks for adding the bot. You are a truly worthy of Wikipedian. --Morning277 (talk) 13:15, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the archive box above is not a bot, just a template. In other words, it won't automatically archive any more; you'd have to do that yourself. Since you mention bots, it is probably quite easy to set one up (though I've never bothered). – Fayenatic L (talk) 21:37, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Back to the Nass article: which Sheikh Isa is in the picture? You entered a recent date on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AbdullaNassWithAmirSh.lsa.JPG where it should state the date that the photo was taken; perhaps you entered the date you uploaded it instead? The article describes him as "the late Amir Sh. Isa" so presumably it is not the current Amir. See King of Bahrain for a list of Amirs. – Fayenatic L (talk) 21:51, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Abdulla Nass Profile Photo.jpg

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Hi, this stuff can seem difficult at first. There is advice about the process required at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Abdulla_Nass_Profile_Photo.jpg – feel free to let me know if you have any problems. – Fayenatic L (talk) 07:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Permission file has been emailed and I am just waiting on OTRS to add the copyright code that they assign. --Morning277 (talk) 20:52, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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Mouawad

Hey Morning, thanks for your note at my talk page. Sorry for my delay in responding. I see you've already created the artile at Mouawad, and it's been much improved from the version I declined, so good job on taking the initiative to improve the article :). If you're interested, I think you could improve the article further by improving the quality of its references (see wikipedia's policy on reliable sources: the Mouawad company website is a primary source, and is not necessarily reliable) and making the tone more encyclopedic (see neutral point of view: phrases like "he expanded on his passion of creating intricate clocks and one-of-a-kind pieces" sound more like an advertisement than an article). In any case, great job on the article and let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. Thanks again! --Cerebellum (talk) 12:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Asia Food Recipe

A tag has been placed on Asia Food Recipe, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia for multiple reasons. Please see the page to see the reasons. If the page has since been deleted, you can ask me the reasons by leaving a message on my user talk page.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. andy (talk) 12:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Not sure why you nominated this for speedy deletion. Here is the information I provided on the speedy deletion tag:"This page should not be speedily deleted because... This page meets the notability requirements for websites. It is the largest recipe submission website in Asia and there is a citation for that source. Not sure why it is being nominated for speedy deletion otherwise. This cite is simliar to other notable recipe submission sites that are also currently on Wikipedia." Can you shed some light on why it was nominated? --Morning277 (talk) 12:38, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Here are less notable Wikipedia articles on the same subject:--Morning277 (talk) 12:50, 19 April 2012 (UTC) AfroFoodtv.com Cookin' with Coolio Epicurious FoodPair RecipeBridge Yummly

Talkback

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April 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, please cite a reliable source for your addition. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. As you did with Ad serving. Chip123456 (talk) 15:44, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, You added a paragraph and didn't source it, just put that it needed a citation. When you add chunks like this, please always use a source!!!! Thanks!! --Chip123456 (talk) 15:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Welcome message? Anyway, I saw that and unfortunately everything that is citable is from ad serving providers so citing it looked too much like advertising. There are plenty of sources to make it notable; however, there is nothing neutral from an independent source other than the many ad serving companies who talk about it. Can you provide any suggestions? Thanks. --Morning277 (talk) 15:50, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Also, there was other unsourced information in the article that I did provide sources for as I found some nuetral sources. I just couldn't bring myself to put promotional links for that information that was posted. Here is one such citation (http://www.gsihome.com/Solutions/Pongrass.aspx). You can see that the information is there but it is from a company --Morning277 (talk) 15:54, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Good move for not doing that. You need secondary sources anyway, not from the ad servers providers. What I can suggest is that you ask on the article talk page. Someone in this area may have some links to neutral websites, but as said it can't really be a promotional/primary source. Also there is no need to use Talkback templates in my TP I am watching this page. Cheers. --Chip123456 (talk) 16:06, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Also all of the caution templates say welcome to Wikipedia, so I understand your confusion.--Chip123456 (talk) 16:11, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I think that they are set up that way as most reverted edits are from inexperienced or new users and it is policy not to "bite" newcomers. That is probably why the templates are set up to say "welcome". Thought you left the template message as opposed to a personal message as you may have thought I was a newbie. However, I understand that there is not always time for personalization with everything out there that needs attended to and sometimes a template is faster. No confusion, but no biggie. --Morning277 (talk) 16:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm aware that you have been on Wikipedia for sometime as I saw the 2009 archive. I added a template message and a personal message! And not all RV's are for newbies. I personally find the templates a simple way to get a message across and especially with TW it makes it easy as well. --Chip123456 (talk) 16:23, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely. When reverting with Twinkle, there is no time to go each page with a personal message and explanation of why. I understand the template use there. I do thank you for the personal message as well. Thanks for the info and happy editing. --Morning277 (talk) 16:27, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

And with you to. --Chip123456 (talk) 16:44, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Citation Barnstar
		message Jakebarrington (talk) 20:34, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Little River Zoo

I have put your citation and some other information in an article that I am currently working on (and actually just moved to the mainspace) here. Since I published it, I removed the reference from the WikiProject page and created Little River Zoo as a redirect to the article. Thank you for the citation. Don Lammers (talk) 22:50, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate it and I am glad that I could help. I was looking for articles that need created for zoos and came across it. I have moved on as there are 2 zoos in Indiana (where I am located) that need pages created. I will be working on these in the next week and maybe go on a trip to get images for them. Let me know if there is something you are working on that I can assist with. Thanks. --Morning277 (talk) 02:09, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Go for it! Nothing I'm doing right now (mostly triage) beats a new article. Just make sure you put {{WikiProject Zoo}} on the talk pages so they show up in the lists and I can assess them. I have a stub with the necessary infrastructure for a zoo article that you can copy here. Just delete anything you don't need and then start writing. Don Lammers (talk) 02:19, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Wow! Great job. That template will save me hours worth of work. Thanks again and I will make sure that it is tagged appropriately. --Morning277 (talk) 02:22, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.

Thank's for defending my talk page. Have a lovely weekend. :O) --bodnotbod (talk) 23:46, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Vandalizers suck. I am sure you will get to return the favor someday. --Morning277 (talk) 02:10, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Reply

Please go ahead with Vitamin A. If you've been on Wikipedia for four years, you will have no problem editing a semiprotected article. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 19:06, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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May 2012

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Heroin: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. You already know this, but you forgot I think!! :) Chip123456 (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Didn't forget. Using Huggle. If it is clear cut vandalism or the user has been previously warned, I will leave a template. If not, I just revert. Too much vandalism and not enough people fighting it. Thanks for the heads up, though.--Morning277 (talk) 19:46, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

The user was previously warned, 3 times actually.. Anyway I gave them their 'final warning' and warned them that WP:AIV would be next stop! You may not of seen the previous warnings. Thanks - --Chip123456 (talk) 19:50, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Hard to tell sometimes as I go so fast......... :) --Morning277 (talk) 19:55, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Well at least it's better than just leaving it! I thought, and forgive me if I'm wrong that HG gave warnings automatically? --Chip123456 (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes and No. You have an option to "revert with warning" (it will automatically send the appropriate level warning based on the number of previous warnings the user receives - also post to the admin board if the user is out of warnings) or just revert. You have to set up the options when you launch the program but it is generally pretty simple. You can also send customized messages or select a template as well. --Morning277 (talk) 20:00, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I have thought of downloading Huggle however, I just tend to use the 'rollback' tool and Twinkle. It looked quite complicated on the page about Huggle, I cope anyway! --Chip123456 (talk) 20:04, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I thought that at first as well; however, Huggle is really easy once you have it loaded and in front of you. The features are easy and it only takes about a dozen or so edits to get used to it. It is faster than rollback and Twinkle; however, it often gets "caught up" and does not load pages as quick as it should. Give it a try, you will be surprised. --Morning277 (talk) 20:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I might just do that! Another daft question, I can't see where to download it? --Chip123456 (talk) 20:15, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Here you go Huggle. --Morning277 (talk) 20:23, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! At the moment it's not letting me download the file so will try later but will have to charge up, battery is low! Thanks! And remember slow down :)! --Chip123456 (talk) 20:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

CVU Task Force

Hey there, Morning277. Over the past few months I've been working on improving CVU and keep coming across the Task Force. As the most recent member to join the Task Force, do you mind if I pick your brain a little bit? Achowat (talk) 16:20, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely. Go ahead. Don't pick too much as there is not much there. --Morning277 (talk) 16:27, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I'll be gentle. When you listed yourself for the Task Force, what did you assume the Task Force did? (Also, I've got this page watchlisted, so no need for a {{TB}}.) Achowat (talk) 17:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

From the CVU Main Page under the "divisions" tab, it states for "monitoring Vandalism as-it-happens." I took from the statement that this is for individuals who fight vandalism "real-time" such as using Twinkle or Huggle (which I use). There is no information under the specific page other than entering your name. As such, I "assumed" that this was all that it was. --Morning277 (talk) 17:13, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I wrote that blurb, based entirely on the description I read somewhere (can't find where, though). So, if the Task Force page were deleted and replaced by a more managable "List of Members", would that change the way you handle Counter-Vandalism? Achowat (talk) 17:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

No it would not. I will continue to use Huggle to revert vandals. The main reason I came to the task force page was to enter my name in case there was something ever needed (such as someone needing to "pick my brain"). :) I think it would be good to have a spot for all members of the overall task force can enter their name. --Morning277 (talk) 17:46, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Just a sidebar, for a second if I'm allowed. How do you feel about the current WP:CVU Homepage, in comparison to what it replaced?

It looks better than most project pages that are on Wikipedia. It is easy to view and navigate. Great job. --Morning277 (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

One of the main issues that CVU has had from its founding is the supposed "para-military" leanings. I've stop listing the "Para-military"-style Userboxen, and I feel that the Task Force should be removed and replaced by a managable Members List (since Category:Wikipedians in the Counter-Vandalism Unit is inherently unwieldy). As a "Task Force" member, would you be opposed to that shift? Achowat (talk) 18:18, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I do not think that changes to the content of the project page would defeat the purpose of the project itself. A user friendly member list would be great and as far as I am concerned the CVU is the CVU and you are a member regardless of where a name is listed. No objection to your idea from me. --Morning277 (talk) 18:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Javaheri Blue Angels.jpg

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Email has been sent with the proper permissions. Notification was also posted on the talk page of the article as well as the file page. --Morning277 (talk) 18:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Epom

The article Epom has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

The article still seems to have no indication of notability. What makes this company worthy of being mentioned in an encyclopedia?

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:39, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to see one's work wasted, I'd suggest you userfy it. The article is better now, but we still have to prove notability, and I am not seeing it. The invention of a new type of ad - we would have to cite more reliable refs for that than their own website and some blog, sadly. And nothing else seems to make it notable :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 16:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Again, sorry that I did not come to you as I thought going to the admin who did the final deletion was sufficient. I hate looking like I "side-stepped" you. Didn't mean to. Anyways, I guess I have a week to see if there is more information out there? Also, I see you tagged it for the Wikipedia project for Poland. Are you from there (none of my business.....just curious)?  :) --Morning277 (talk) 16:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's how the article came to my attention the first time around (I patrol for new Poland-related articles). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. As this company is from Poland, is there a chance you can find something through search engines there? There may be more information available than I can find through Google in US. Don't waste your time looking if you don't want to. Just a though. --Morning277 (talk) 17:15, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I cannot find anything, but you may want to ask the admin who deleted it to userfy it in your space, just in case one day it will become notable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:22, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Epom

A tag has been placed on Epom, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia for multiple reasons. Please see the page to see the reasons. If the page has since been deleted, you can ask me the reasons by leaving a message on my user talk page.

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Pennsylvania Bar Association

Please do whatever you feel is appropriate to this article: that's why I requested input! Thanks for the help--GrapedApe (talk) 22:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

File:PedramProfilePhotoCNN.jpg

I submitted File:PedramProfilePhotoCNN.jpg for CSD under G12, a possible copyright issue.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:42, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification. I sent a response to the permissions email received in my person email account. Please let me know if this resolves the issue. Thanks. --Morning277 (talk) 14:01, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

I sent a follow up email. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:10, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I've converted the tag on this image. I'm afraid it is likely to be deleted after a week unless the copyright issues are addressed. :/

The image permission seems to come from the subject of the photograph, not the photographer. Under the US law that governs us, copyright in a photograph is almost always owned by the photographer. For instance, from [1]:

Ownership of a “copy” of a photograph – the tangible embodiment of the “work” – is distinct from the “work” itself – the intangible intellectual property. The owner of the “work” is generally the photographer or, in certain situations, the employer of the photographer. Even if a person hires a photographer to take pictures of a wedding, for example, the photographer will own the copyright in the photographs unless the copyright in the photographs is transferred, in writing and signed by the copyright owner, to another person. The subject of the photograph generally has nothing to do with the ownership of the copyright in the photograph.

This is sometimes a hard legal fact to explain to BLP subjects. :/ In some countries, I understand, the person hiring the photographer owns the copyright, but he seems to be based in Atlanta, so US laws apply. For him to own copyright, he will need to have received a legal transfer from the photographer or the agency that made the photo.

If CNN's photographers took this picture - and the picture was not given to them by the subject of the article - than CNN's declaration of ownership may be quite right. I'm afraid it probably is; I've looked at several other reporters on the website and see similar backgrounds: [2]; [3]; [4]. If this is the case, we don't have any choice but to get license from CNN. To retain the image, we would either need a release from CNN or we would need an explanation from the subject to explain how he is the originator and copyright holder of the image. If we can document that he was advised of the copyright ownership issue, liability would rest with him rather than with us if it turns out his assertion is wrong. If we don't have a strong and plausible explanation, liability may well rest with the OTRS agent who processes the permission, since the procedures written for OTRS inform that this is a common misunderstanding and their acceptance of the permission anyway could make them guilty of contributory infringement.

I'm really sorry about the complication. I know how happy I've been when I write for images and get them. I've been in the position of having to write the person back to explain why their license/permission doesn't work for us, and it's not a comfortable place to be. :/

If we are able to work out the permission irregularities, we'll need to fix flagged license. I see you've labeled the photograph as "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0 License", but the letter you forwarded to OTRS actually releases it into public domain. We can't use a more restrictive license than the copyright holder. :) We can't legally require attribution or free derivatives if the copyright holder does not. If we can work out the other issues, the license will need to be changed to {{Cc-zero}}.

I'm not the OTRS volunteer dealing with this, as you know, but I just wanted to explain the issue more completely while pointing out the tag change. If you have any questions about the processes or procedures, please feel free to drop by my talk page. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:00, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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Bob Marshall

Hello,

Why do you keep deleting references to Delegate Bob Marshall's recent CNN interview? His comments are a matter of public record and made headlines in most of the major news outlets today - given that Marshall is a senate candidate, it seems to me that comments that make national headlines should be on his page. Moreover, my suspicion is that many people will be trying to read up on Marshall today, after seeing his interview on CNN. It is therefore important to include these comments in his profile so that wikipedia readers will know they have found the right person.

If you don't like the phrasing of the edits, please change them (I tried to use neutral language, but might not have succeeded). But please reconsider before deleting something that is a matter of public record.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.126.182.174 (talk) 19:06, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Easy....I took a look at the edit and see that I did in fact revert it in error (like I say on my userpage, I do make mistakes). I am reverting vandalism using a program and must have rolled back your edit while attempting to do another. I apologize for that so please feel free to revert back to the original edit. I looked at the citation you left and the content seems fine so you should have no issues. Also, please show me where you come up with "keep deleting" as I only reverting the one edit. Thanks. --Morning277 (talk) 19:14, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for responding - I could see why a vandalism program might pick this up. I thought you deleted it twice, but that might have been my mistake as I am not super good with technology.

I just went back to revert my deletion but I see that you have already taken care of it. The source looks great, I just didn't pay attention as much as I should have. Sorry again. --Morning277 (talk) 19:26, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

misapprehension?

On Right-wing socialism, the RfC was on the specific edit cited, not on a general question about "original research." The entire section removed was sourced to reliable sources, and the issue was whether the removal of over 95% of the article was proper. Cheers. Collect (talk) 01:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Homestead Book Company

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A tag has been placed on Homestead Book Company, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as at articles for deletion. Under the specified criteria, where an article has substantially identical content to that of an article deleted after debate, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Homestead Book Company

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As stated on your talk page, you need to read the talk page before nominating the article or going any further. In addition, you are now engaging in edit waring. All people involved in the pervious Rfd (which you were not part of) have been notified of the article posting and comments requesting. ALSO - I see that your MOST RECENT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SPEEDY DELETION HAVE BEEN DENIED. You should take a look at the criteria and understand what speedy deletion is for prior to engaging in any further recommendations on other articles. Thanks. --Morning277 (talk) 18:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

You also have a discussion HERE at the Administrator's Notice Board that you have not yet responded to. Please do so in order to make sure that you keep your editing rights. There appear to be some good deletion recommendations that you have made; however, there are also many that appear to be disruptive. You seem to be a good editor, but need to get a handle on the different Speedy Deletion tags.--Morning277 (talk) 13:06, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism

Thanks for reverting the personal attack on my talk page. My internet was being slow so I couldn't get to it. :) -- Luke (Talk) 16:02, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Any time. I am sure that you would do the same. The kids seem to be a little more active today. Not sure what is going on. --Morning277 (talk) 16:05, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I always noticed that vandalism would thicken with the end of school near. SwisterTwister talk 19:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) So hold on to your Rollbacks, children. We've got a lot of work to do this June. Achowat (talk) 19:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I did not put 2 and 2 together but that does make sense. Get your last laughs in before school is out. Also, thanks for the barnstar. Not deserving of such, but thank you nonetheless. --Morning277 (talk) 19:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thanks for your contributions. SwisterTwister talk 19:22, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

not deserving, but thank you nonetheless. --Morning277 (talk) 19:20, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

pls delete my account

Yes I want to leave the Wiki. I want my account to be blocked on all Wikis.

Many thanks:

--Duhos (talk) 19:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism?

What led you to the conclusion that my edits (on Drakengard and Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King‎) were vandalistic in any way? I fixed so many things, added refs, replaced dead links with archives, searched for official sites etc. If anything, you should encourage me to continue the work I've been doing. Do you know how many hours of research I've spent on today's edits? May I revert my corrections back please? Or do you want me to go through each and every one of them with you? Punkalyptic (talk) 15:21, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I would like to note that I use a program to help revert vandalism on Wikipedia. There are ocassions when I may revert an edit that was unintentional. From looking at the edit that you made, I would not have reverted or left a warning on your page and do not remember doing it with that particular article. This could be because it was meant for another article and the one you edited was caught up in the que. My apologies. Also, it is better to speak on a calm level. I am human and make mistakes. Happy editing --Morning277 (talk) 15:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I had no intention of attacking you. I understand. If it's a program that reverted the edits and left the warning, I wonder if it's gonna do the same when I re-revert them back. If there is a change that I did and you think I shouldn't have, please let me know and we can talk about it. Thank you for patrolling the premises ;) Punkalyptic (talk) 15:44, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

It will not revert them back after you make the correction. The program is called "Huggle" and it ques up new edits as they are made on Wikipedia. Sometimes, it runs slow and if I clicked on the article you edited and the next articell did not load before clicked off, then it would have edited your article instead of the one I intended. Like I said, this does not happen often, but sometimes it does. Good luck and you should have no issue with reverting to the original content.

Please comment on Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama

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I think you might be interested in this.

Hi there! I think you might be interested in [danfromsquirrelhill dot wordpress dot com/2012/05/30/wikipedias-article-presidency-of-barack-obama-is-a-puff-piece-which-ignores-many-critical-issues/ this]. YAU8724 (talk) 19:33, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate your "thought" but I am not sure why I would be interested. My comments on the talk page are based purely on Wiki guidelines and not my political points of view. --Morning277 (talk) 19:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

That essay is not based on political view. Instead, it explains how Presidency of Barack Obama is biased, and not neutral. YAU8724 (talk) 19:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

First, it is an unreliable source so I did not read anything more than the first couple of sentences. Second, if you feel there are biases in the article, then take them to NPOV Notice Board. Finally, not sure why you had to create an account to mask your identify in order to let everyone know about the article. Also, polling for votes on the page is sad. Stick to Wiki guidelines and drop your points of view on the topic itself. There are many things that I do not like that are in Wikipedia; however, they are there as they meet the guidelines. Not my choice as I did not create the site but I live with it as I want to continue to contribute here. You should as well. --Morning277 (talk) 19:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

I advise you to ignore this editor. I'm 99% certain it's Grundle2600 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) evading his ban again. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

And I'm 100% certain that it's Grundle2600. And I suggest that you do read the link. YAU8724 (talk) 20:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

For you!

		The Userpage Shield
		For your quick revert of vandalism on my userpage. Thanks! RA0808 talkcontribs 21:25, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Again, this is not deserved, but I humbly accept the recognition. --Morning277 (talk) 19:22, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Trisha Ventker

The article Trisha Ventker has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

There is exactly one reliable, independent reference about her in the entire article, More Magazine. Self-published book that hasn't been the best seller list, fails WP:AUTHOR. Photography is all local. Best case scenario is merge with the book. Otherwise, without the refs, this gets deleted

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Speedy deletion nomination of John Harding (lawyer)

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Your fellow Wikipedians need you!

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Popular

I just checked the video. What a moron. I'm a you-tuber myself. Perhaps I'll harass him a bit over there! Thanks for the heads up by the way ! "....We are all Kosh...."  <-Babylon-5-> 15:43, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I wonder if it is notable enough to get us our own Wikipedia page!!!! :) --Morning277 (talk) 15:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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Please watch my talk, as I won't leave further TB's. Thanks! Chip123456 (talk) 16:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Have you thought anymore about it? If it's better, I can email as asked on my TP.--Chip123456 (talk) 21:26, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Welcome

On behalf of the CVU academy myself and Achowat (Co-coordinators) welcome you to training budding anti-vandals. It is reccomended that you watchlist: Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Status, Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Enroll, our main talk page, and our questions page. Also, make sure you read Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Instruction_methods. Dan653 (talk) 22:20, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Could you please take User:Ebikeguy? Thanks Dan653 (talk) 01:14, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Or User: Fishingking? Thanks, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 01:32, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Fishing probably taken just ebike would be great. Dan653 (talk) 01:38, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry. I usually do not access Wiki that much on the weekends. I was on Saturday doing some edits on a page that I have been working on which is why I was able to respond initially. --Morning277 (talk) 12:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

TP

There's no article on Ru.wiki, only this file - ru:Файл:Тула Продукт.jpg - which is in the process of being deleted. I added the Russian name to the article here. INeverCry 18:16, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I saw the edit. If the article is being deleted in Russian, is it due to format or notability? I think this article has a good claim to notability so I am going to guess that the format of the Russian article is no good? --Morning277 (talk) 18:18, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Disregard. That looks like a file that is being deleted (I don't speak Russian). Any chance we can get this up on the Russian Wikipedia or is this impossible to post the same article in two different languages? --Morning277 (talk) 18:19, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

The file is on commons and has been nominated for deletion: here. At the moment this might be a bit of a conflict for your fair-use image. I've voted delete on it and notified the nominator regarding the copyvio issue. As for creating an article on this company on ru.wiki, it's just as easy as doing it here. I'm not good enough with Russian to do it myself. I'm still quite a student. INeverCry 18:48, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again. Enjoy your editing. --Morning277 (talk) 18:49, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I've fixed that link. INeverCry 18:52, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Molly Maid

Userfied at User:Morning277/Molly Maid. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

THANKS!!--Morning277 (talk) 20:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the Molly Maid help

I've created a userspace draft, as was suggested to me. I'm hoping I can learn ways to make this article more objective. Thank you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Contenteditor291 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contenteditor291 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• This resulted in two separate userspace drafts, which is unnecessary, and which might possibly cause confusion if both were edited, so I have history-merged the two at User:Contenteditor291. That way, we keep the full editing history. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:36, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense. Thanks again for sending the article over. --Morning277 (talk) 12:25, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

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AfD

Morning, thanks for voting on the AfD for TravelFox. I think it was a mistake for you to make comments at a personal level. I'm not edit warring. Posting something to AfD is not disruptive. All my comments have been about the rules of WP such as WP:V. Finally, I make plenty of valuable contributions to WP. Let's stick to the content of the article and leave out the personal drama. Unfortunately, your comments were just increasing the level of personal drama. I request that you strike out your Comment from the AfD page--it's got nothing to do with the article. Put it on my Talk page if you want. Logical Cowboy (talk) 16:44, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Nice Response. Request denied. I am simply giving you some sources that you clearly did not look for or simply could not find. Regarding the drama, that was created by you and another editor. Seeing people who use Wikipedia in this type of manner is disheartening. If you do not like my comment regarding Afd, then respond to it or do not recommend it in the first place. Your issue is not with me and I hope that you are not making it about my comments. I am simply trying to point out that you both need to concentrate your edits (which I can say that you both look like experienced editors) on making Wikipedia better. The time and energy that you have both spent is tremendous and could probably have been used in other places of Wikipedia. You seem to be taking it personal that an article you recommended was denied for speedy deletion. What is even more troublesome is that you are willing to go after anyone (which now it appears that you want to thrust me in the middle to prove your point) who does not agree with you. I am sorry that your recommendation was overridden and that you are having issues with another editor. The comments were meant for both of you and I am serious that Afd is NOT to be used as a place to take your disputes. Again, I hope you take this to heart and are not considering me as part of your "article issue." --Morning277 (talk) 16:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, no one said you were not a valuable contributor. That is precisely what I am saying and the reason why your should both focus you efforts on Wikipedia and not each other. --Morning277 (talk) 16:54, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Again, I went from speedy to AfD because that is what the admin recommended. This has nothing whatsoever to do with personal feelings about anyone. Logical Cowboy (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

You are wasting time here. Look at your talk page and you can see the dispute that you 2 are having. This is evident from the article talk page and their talk page as well. I am not going to spell out the details as your name ("Logical") tells me that you can connect the dots. Please read the paragraph that I wrote and consider EVERYTHING that was said. There is no need to bold your points as I understand your contention; however, I am going off of what I see going back and forth with you both and now it is wasting my time as I would like to keep on commenting on Afd articles as opposed to coming back to explain what I wrote in the previous paragraphs (which I hope that you will absorb everything that I said there - including the positive comments along with the negative). (WOW - That was one of the longest run-on sentences I have ever written)--Morning277 (talk) 17:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the Rollbacker and Reviewer Cabal!

Welcome to the Rollbacker and Reviewer Cabal, Morning277!

In case you forgot, we mainly coordinate on anything that requires a rollbacker or reviewer's attention.

Currently, we have two pages;

• The main page
• Discussion page

but we have more things coming up!

Regards, J (t) 18:46, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. I am happy to take part! --Morning277 (talk) 19:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Cleanup

Thanks for joining WikiProject Cleanup, and please feel free to post entries to the list of articles for clean-up. Thanks again for joining! Northamerica1000^(talk) 07:43, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I would rather take the time to clean up an article rather than tag it. Regardless, I enjoy being part of the Project. --Morning277 (talk) 12:20, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Whistleblower protection in the United States

Hi Morning 277, thanks for replying over at WikiProject Law. I've just left a reply there and saw your request for me to paste the draft section to your Talk page. Here is the material I've written:

Exemptions and limitations to legal protections

There are certain limitations and exemptions to the legal protections for whistleblowers in the U.S. With regard to federal legislation, the broadest law is the Whistleblower Protection Act, however its protections only apply to federal employees. Both public and private employees may be protected under topic-specific federal laws such as the Occupational Safety and Health Act but such laws cover only a narrow, specific area of unlawful activity. Private sector employees reporting violations of federal laws that have no whistleblower protection provisions or those reporting violations of state laws are not protected by federal whistleblower protection statutes. In 2009, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) published a report stating that employees who reported illegal activities did not receive enough protection from retaliation by their employers. Based on data from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, only 21% of the 1800 whistleblower cases reviewed by the agency in 2007 had "a favorable outcome" for the whistleblower. The GAO found that the key issues were lack of resources for investigating employees' claims and the legal complexity of whistleblower protection regulations.

In the United States, union officials are exempted from whistleblower laws. There are currently no legal protections for employees of labor unions who report union corruption, and such employees can be dismissed from employment should they raise any allegations of financial impropriety. The Labor Management Reporting and Disclosure Act, which legislates against union corruption, includes protections for whistleblowers, however the Supreme Court has ruled that these protections only apply to union members and not to employees of labor unions.

Thanks again for agreeing to review this, I'll check back here and on the article's Talk page for your feedback. Thanks! Thurmant (talk) 15:15, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Grizzly1110

He's yours! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 16:27, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

ItsZippy just requested him. If you still want him, just let me know. If not, I'll give him to ItsZippy. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 21:09, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll take him but have not gotten a response from him yet. It's been a couple of days since he has made an edit. --Morning277 (talk) 21:29, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks again. Looks easier than Huggle and I should have the hang of it shortly. --Morning277 (talk) 17:12, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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Blacklist removal

Hi Morning277,

I work for FindTheBest, a comparison website. FindTheBest was blacklisted from Wikipedia a few years ago for adding a page while the company was still very young. Now that the site has grown to 10M visitors a month, I am attempting to get FindTheBest removed from the blacklist.

I appealed to this page, but was denied by ~Amatulić: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#FindTheBest.com

Amatrulic told me I need to find a trusted editor to make an appeal to have the FindTheBest page restored. Can you help me out? Feel free to contact me at evanthomas1(at)gmail(dot)com

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evanthomas1 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I would be the editor to do it as I will not make a recommendation unless I truely feel that it should be removed from the list. Without me having to do too much searching, can you tell me a little more about the website (what it is and why people use it), why it was blacklisted, and what people would use the site for when making citations to Wikipedia? Thanks. --Morning277 (talk) 20:59, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly Morning227. FindTheBest is an unbiased comparison engine. The site collects data on consumer products and services and displays them side-by-side. The site was founded in 2010 by Kevin O'Connor, co-founder of DoubleClick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubleclick).

When the site launched 2 years ago, an early employee created a Wikipedia article on FindTheBest in attempt to promote the site. I believe this is why it was originally added to the blacklist. Now, the site has 10M unique visitors per month and is growing very quickly, the CMGR for traffic is 19%.

The site powers product comparisons for large publications such as Golf Digest (http://bags.golfdigest.com), TechCrunch (http://smartphones.techcrunch.com), VentureBeat (http://laptops.venturebeat.com) and Ski Magazine (http://ski-resorts.skimagazine.com).

FindTheBest is backed with $6M in funding from Kleiner Perkins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleiner_Perkins_Caufield_%26_Byers).

I agree that the site should have been added to the blacklist in the early days. But it has since grown to be a very big site, and I don't think it's fair that the site should be punished forever. The company never intentionally tried to violate Wikipedia rules, back when the site launched, it seemed like a good idea to create a Wiki article on FindTheBest.

A link might be useful on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_engine#FindTheBest

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. With Kind Regards, Evan (talk) 21:50, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I left a comment on the blacklist page. I think it is a great website but the same type of sources can be located elsewhere which is why it has a hard chance of ever being removed from the blacklist. Sorry that I could not assist but good luck in the future. --Morning277 (talk) 14:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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Laura Vitale Article

Hi Morning277. The 'Laura Vitale' article may need your assistance as there is a lot going on in the news about her right now and yet the article is flagged as not notible and may be deleted. I have my concerns considering that she is a very well known online food personality with clearly a large fan base. I recently made some updates to the article regarding her involvement with celeb chef Duff Goldman and their launch of the Original YouTube cooking channel HUNGRY being headed up by a former food network exec Bruce Seidel, but since I don't have an account with wikipedia, I'm pretty sure whatever I say in the dispute page won't matter... if you do a google news search for 'Laura Vitale' you will see what's going on or check out the huffington post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/25/youtube-hungry-guide-food-channel_n_1615679.html

Any help would be appreciated as I've been watching this girls show from early on in her career and I think she's made a huge impact on the world of food entertainment.. so much that corporate america/Hollywood is now catching onto her cooking videos on youtube and starting to see where the future of digital entertainment is - and bringing her on board to launch such an amazing change in technology! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.184.212.3 (talk) 16:38, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I would love to help with the article but have many other projects going on. I left a comment on the page of the Article Rescue Squadron HERE. Hopefully someone will pick it up. --Morning277 (talk) 18:34, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I saw the post on the ARS and took a quick look. Short answer is that Laura Vitale is a borderline notability subject at best. It might get kept at AfD, it might not, the outcome can be somewhat random is these borderline cases. She won the online paula deen contest, is a budding food personality, but news coverage is not really in depth.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 04:30, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

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Edit I made to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Prom_(film)

It wasn't vandalism, the character in the film is a woman named Gay, it was mistakenly labeled Gary. You can see it http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052181/ and http://www.allmovie.com/movie/senior-prom-v109450 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.60.228.17 (talk) 15:33, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the citation. Feel free to revert it. --Morning277 (talk) 15:41, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

• Not every edit using Gay is vandalism IP was reverted again [5] Perhaps a better edit sumary would be useful. I agree that Friends of Gay are the most difficult vandalism to catch : ) --DBigXray 12:40, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely. This was a tough one for me to understand when I first saw the note from the IP user as the editor who authored the article (two years ago) put the name in as Gary. This would have been one that I should have reverted as a good faith effort or went even further and researched it myself. Lesson learned. --Morning277 (talk) 19:20, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Yeah, I saw them. I just did not feel like expanding the conversation longer than it needed to be. I agree that they would be considered vandalism; however, vandalism must be clear and sometimes I find it better to revert as opposed to leveling a warning. That is once of the main differences between Huggle and STiki. Huggle will show you the revision history of an editor and also color code the level or warnings that the user has received. If there was a way to do this in STiki, I would be able to label them better. Regardless, I felt like the edits were reverted so the bettering of Wikipedia was done (even if the user was not warned). I don't know, maybe I am looking at it the wrong way. --Morning277 (talk) 17:54, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

• Thats ok, I was just making sure that you had seen it, actually you replied on the last thread hence the doubts. I agree with your point above. Also you must have noticed that Stiki does not warn if the edits are more than a day old, so the only difference is with the edit sumary (AGF vs test/vandalism). Besides, the Vandals will be reported at WP:AIV by stiki only if you use vandal button. (on a side note: Remember Instructors should be role model for their trainees ) cheers--DBigXray 18:45, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I humbly agree with the side note. Thanks for keeping me in check. --Morning277 (talk) 19:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Saw your comment, although i think you should consider that Gaddafi had no political position, while every other dictator as we listed hold highest political position of the country, that's what our point is, in removing Gaddafi from the list. Clarificationgiven (talk) 15:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Like my comments said, there are many issues with the article itself. If you want to come up with a universal definition, there is no way that the current list would survive in its current form. If that is you definition for what makes a dictator, then so be it. Again, take the comment for what it is worthy (if anything). --Morning277 (talk) 15:48, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Bani Mustafa Article

I am the author of the article "Bani Mustafa", and I would like to make some points regarding the unfair deletion process of the article.

1. The deletion proposal was made by the user JohnRak as part of the dispute reagrding the contents of the article Jerash here. The relation between the two users is quiet obvious, as the user JohnRak admitted that he works with the user Historyfeelings in the real life as shown here. This made him if not socketpuppet a hired crowd.

2. The PROD deletion proposal overpassed the Articles for Deletion (AfD) process which is against Wikipedia policy as stated here

3. The PROD deletion proposal was made by the user JohnRak whose creation was dedicated solely for the deletion of the article Bani Mustafa as shown in the history of his contributions as the first contribution for the user was the deletion proposal. Please check here

4. The PROD deletion proposal was made while I was in the process of responding to the AfD. In my response to I depended on the information which I had on hand during that time, which I admit it was not complete.

5. The article was subject to a continuous vandalism since the beginning of the dispute between me and HistoryFeelings over the article Jerash, where the vandalism was made by anonymous IP addresses.

6. I can assure that all the information, which I have included in the article were genuine and authentic. However, most of the sources provided in the article are written in Arabic and are not available on the internet. These resources are available in Jordan and can be obtained from many public libraries, however as I am away now, I have no access to these sources as they are not available online.

7. An article which was written on the website of the Jordanian news agency "Almadenahnews" confirms that, please see the English translation of this article here.

Banimustafa (talk) 09:59, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I was there to comment on AfD. Anything that you are addressing on my talk page here should be taken up at ANI. I am simply an editor and cannot assist you with any of your concerns. Sorry. --Morning277 (talk) 14:49, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Whistleblower protection

Thanks again for your reply at WikiProject Law, I have gone ahead and posted the section. Thurmant (talk) 15:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Let me know if you have any issues or if there is anything that I can do for you in the future. --Morning277 (talk) 15:20, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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The tone isn't a blatant violation but I believe perhaps it reads like a resume with the detailed "Thornton Adjustable Positioner" section. SwisterTwister talk 23:11, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Gotcha! Thanks! Maybe the TAP needs an article itself and I will move the majority of the information out of his profile. --Morning277 (talk) 23:13, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

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Dear sir, I have created Al Minhaj National School page with all authority details and i was mdifying it. Why did you delete it? Please give me the back up of that page to make a good sense. ts about my school.

Expecting reply from you. Thank you. Mihwar Mahroof — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mihwar (talk • contribs) 16:04, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry that the article was deleted. First, it was an administrator who deleted it as I do not have the ability to delete pages. However, it was my recommendation that it be deleted. The page was being written on the main space of Wikipedia. This is the area where articles need to stand on their own without the need for additions or corrections. Think of the main space as an actual encyclopedia. If you were to purchase it and see an article that was not finished, it would not be worth the price you pay for the book. Wikipedia has space where you can create the article. This is call your sandbox. You can create any draft that you want prior to moving it to the main space. If you would like a copy of the article that you were working on, please contact the administrator who deleted it and they can move it to your sandbox where you can finish your work. --Morning277 (talk) 19:13, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for the welcome. --Morning277 (talk) 15:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

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Cabal

I don't know if you've seen this, but it looks to be getting pretty toxic. Just a heads up. Dan653 (talk) 20:20, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. I was going to comment but I just let the talk keep rolling. I have removed myself until things can get worked out (which at this point it does not look like it will). --Morning277 (talk) 20:39, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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I have reverted your AGF edits. Actually, Sam Malone was supposed to be a football player. Maybe IP editor did not any better. --George Ho (talk) 20:40, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

WOW! That would have never worked! Could you image him as anything other than what his character actually was? Anyways, my mistake for the edit and thank you for correcting it and bringing it to my attention. --Morning277 (talk) 20:55, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

By the way, can you correct what you did to the IP editor, or can you give him a minor punishment to triumph a major template? --George Ho (talk) 21:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I did not realize that I warned the editor. That was uncalled for and has since been corrected on his talk page. --Morning277 (talk) 02:30, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Michael Martone

All bio entries in "Michael Martone" read like a spoof of Wikipedia as far back as April 10, 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.16.158.8 (talk) 21:37, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Michael Martone

According to http://english.ua.edu/user/84: Martone was born and grew up in Fort Wayne, Indiana. He attended Butler University and graduated from Indiana University. He holds the MA from The Writing Seminars of The Johns Hopkins University. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.16.158.8 (talk) 21:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Not sure what you are referring to. If you could provide me additional information I would appreciate it. Thanks. --Morning277 (talk) 02:29, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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SQL-Ledger: "Why is unofficial website needed if there is an official website?"

This was a link not to an unofficial homepage, but to a Github repository that contains the original code. But because he didn't upload it himself, the developer asked me to mark it as "unofficial".

Vaslovag (talk) 19:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

So someone else had you add the link? This sounds like a conflict of interest to me. I would suggest that you remove the link from the other Wikipedia sites as well as I have proposed that the link be added to the "global black list." I would withdraw that request if you remove the links from the other sites as well. as it sounds like the person who wanted you to post the links is doing it for promotion of their own site. --Morning277 (talk) 17:57, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, my message was unclear. I am "Tekki" on Github. This repository on Github belongs to me and contains in the master branch the original SQL-Ledger code. But this code was not uploaded by DWS Systems, so they prefer that the link is marked as "unofficial". I don't know if there is a conflict of interest. Since many years I'm one of the most active people around SQL-Ledger, write in the forums and mailing lists, speak at conferences about this program and maintain the SQL-Ledger entries on different Wikipedia sites. These things cost me a lot of time, and now I feel a little bit as if I'm blamed for all this work. But it's my fault, I could have explained me more clearly from beginning. Vaslovag (talk) 08:13, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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I hope you don't mind, but I have removed your inactive student as he hasn't been around in nearly 2 months. Dan653 (talk) 20:57, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

No Problem. Thanks. --Morning277 (talk) 21:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

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