User talk:Moonraker0022/Archive 4

Moonraker0022 Talk Page Archive (July 2009 to June 2010)

Nazarenes and human sexuality

Yo, I wanted to give you a heads-up that I added to the discussion at Talk:Church of the Nazarene#Human sexuality re-add in light of our current content dispute. In summation, I'm basically looking for Wikipedia guidelines to support your argument. Without researching it myself, I'm inclined to think that it's perfectly fine per WP:V and that the burden would be on the person with the beef (you) to see that it's more well-rounded. But I'm also concerned that you mentioned a using a "summary" of the matter in your edit summary, which you didn't provide (and, of course, that might be construed as a misleading edit summary given the "side" you've taken on the matter!). Anyhow, I just wanted to give you a recap and let you know that my contributions to the discussion are there if you'd like to address any of them. Talk to you later, Moonraker! P.S. Glad you worked out that WikiProject Education deal without me -- I was just as confused as you were! --King of the Arverni (talk) 01:03, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NAIA

Dude, no problem at all. You left me everything I needed, and I had a BUNCH of time on my hands. Had a good time doing it, and let me know if you need any further help. (talk) 05:22, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 NAIA DII Men's BB Championship

I put a reply to your comments, on my homepage. Thanks for your efforts in the basketball sector of Wikipedia.

Now, I have a question for you: the 2010 NAIA D2 championship makes reference to the Division I history in the infobox at the top of the page. The template I used was apparently specifically designed for Division I, and the infobox information is hard-coded into the infobox template. Are you confident enough to take a look at the template and make it generic enough to accomodate both DI and DII? (I am not yet that confident.) Alternately, if needed, I suppose the template can be copied and then modified for the DII history. This, I think, is the only problem with the page (other than the obvious need to fill in the few items of information that are missing at this time). Jlhcpa (talk) 18:14, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have copied the infobox template, formerly used only for Division I, to a new templated called Template:Infobox NAIA D-II Basketball Tournament. I see that the template will work for both genders, with men being the default and women being the usage when "gender=Women's"". So I think this template is now adequate for all D-II usage. Let me know in the future, or feel free to fix the template yourself if you see some problems. Jlhcpa (talk) 23:46, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Standardization - why not use official terminology?

I see where you have moved four templates, articles, etc. that I set up relating to NAIA Division II mens basketball championships. I understand the desire to uniformly refer to all similar-content items. However, I disagree with the move from the names I assigned. Take a look at the NAIA website that presents this information to the web world. I believe you will find that I referred to this tournament in the manner that is being used by the NAIA itself. It seem to me that, if moving of Wiki content is needed, it should be all other references. You should adopt the naming conventions used by me rather than moving my CONFORMING content to agree with a bunch of other NONCONFIRMING naming schemes. What do you think? I'm confused. Jlhcpa (talk) 19:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at the following couple of websites:

{http://naia.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl-div2/naia-m-baskbl-div2-body.html

{http://naia.cstv.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/naia/sports/m-baskbl-div2/auto_pdf/2010DIIMBBBracketComplete

On each of these pages, the NAIA itself consistently uses the term NAIA Division II Men's Basketball National Championship.

This is where I got their wording, presumed to be the preferred wording, for the tournament that is held each year. So this is the format I would use for the generic reference to the tournament history as a whole. For each individual year, I would simply place the year as the first item in the title, as in "2010" ....... This same format could work for both genders, simply by replacing "men's" with "women's". Similarly, I believe this would be the preferred reference to D-I, simply by replacing "Division II" with "Division I" in all cases.

My whole argument is basically a debate over semantics. I agree that whatever wording used should ultimately be consistent and used for all articles, templates, etc. I realize you already have a considerable effort at designing these items with your wording, so this discussion may be moot. I would encourage usage of the NAIA-preferred lingo, but I understand if you do not see the benefit (or integrity) of using the NAIA wording.

This is probably my last comment on this topic. I have my preferences (a desire to match the official lingo as much as possible), but it is not that important of a topic to continue to pursue it if you do not see the advantages of doing so. Whatever final formatting is used, it appears we now have all cases covered - D-I, D-II, men, women. So I will use whatever is in place for any future work I may do. Jlhcpa (talk) 00:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion request at WikiProject CBB

I found you through Category:WikiProject College basketball members and am requesting your opinion on an issue. If you have the time, please go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball#NEED HELP: Helms Foundation POY reference(s). Thank you in advance. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:00, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]