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July 2018 at Women in Red
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Political party timeline
ME, can you please do a timeline for Barisan Nasional like this page with Perikatan, I am not good at this sector and Thank You for update (maybe they should use “Perikatan V2” start from today lol). angys (Talk Talk) 04:57, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
And this [1], the user is trying to change history as that time PH use PKR light blue flag. angys (Talk Talk) 05:02, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- @*angys*: I will take a look on that when I have a time. About the Pakatan Harapan colour in West Malaysia, I feel we should use the official colour since the coalition has been recognised by Registrar of Societies (RoS). Molecule Extraction (talk) 06:40, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- But that was during GE14 and that time not yet use red, but PKR light blue flag.@Vnonymous:, please feel free to discuss here and dont WP:DONTREVERT as WP:PARTR. angys (Talk Talk) 07:18, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- The official PH colors (red) should be used consistently throughout any article, as per WP:CONSISTENCY. @*angys*:, please refer to the talk page of the Malaysian general election, 2018 and your own talk page. Enough said. Vnonymous (talk) 09:09, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- Now Gerakan quit BN [2] angys (Talk Talk) 06:16, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- Bagan Serai MP also quit UMNO [3] angys (Talk Talk) 04:20, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
- I am back again,
this time is for Selangor state assembly insignia svg file. You may refer it here. Thank you [4]Already have here File:Selangor state legislative assembly.svg and File:Insignia Dewan Negeri Selangor.png, sorry for the inconvenience :} angys (Talk Talk) 06:17, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- But that was during GE14 and that time not yet use red, but PKR light blue flag.@Vnonymous:, please feel free to discuss here and dont WP:DONTREVERT as WP:PARTR. angys (Talk Talk) 07:18, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Dewan Rakyat
PBB has officially left
It is confirmed that SUPP will also/has already left
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/06/08/supp-to-leave-barisan-nasional-coalition-source-confirms/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sisuvia (talk • contribs) 07:37, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Sisuvia: Please again read the source, "to leave" is not the same as "already leave". It is still not confirmed. Molecule Extraction (talk) 07:39, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Molecule Extraction: It is already confirmed that they are leaving, so it's not a problem to take them out of the BN coalition category on the DR page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sisuvia (talk • contribs)
- @Sisuvia: In Wikipedia, we should not change any event until it is really been confirmed. According to [5] The Borneo Post of Sarawak (especially since the party are a Sarawak-based local party, which by-far are more reliable in reporting the event in their territory). The party supreme council leader has said "there are still no conclusion" on their decision with another source from The Straits Times of Singapore stating that they will make a decision by the following week [6]. There is no hurries to update something if it still not confirmed especially after a public announcement has been made by the party leader. Also please read WP:WCW. Molecule Extraction (talk) 07:53, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
You may update this diagram File:DewanRakyat12052018.svg, MP for Masjid Tanah Melaka quit UMNO now.. angys (Talk Talk) 04:08, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Dewan Negara
I literally made the change because it was stated in LDP's wikipage that they were in a coalition with I quote "and joining the Sabah Heritage Party (WARISAN)-Pakatan Harapan (PH)-United Pasokmomogun Kadazandusun Murut Organisation (UPKO) alliances in Sabah"
And after reviewing sources and checking for news, it seems that LDP has indeed not done so. So I would hardly place all the fault on me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sisuvia (talk • contribs)
- @Sisuvia: OK, just to remind again that other Wikipedia articles is not a valid reference as it will be considered as WP:CIRCULAR and many of those also can be vandalised by irresponsible users. We should only cite from reliable sources outside Wikipedia such as Google News, Google Books and other PDF documents. Molecule Extraction (talk) 15:02, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- EDIT: What's funny is, you were the one that wrote that exact sentence on the LDP page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sisuvia (talk • contribs) 14:58, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Sisuvia: If you read back the version properly.. I only do minor tasks by moving the reference on top of the article and adding links but the sentence are not made by me since I did not read the reference at the time thus forgot to remove the word made by the user who last editing the article. Molecule Extraction (talk) 15:07, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- EDIT: What's funny is, you were the one that wrote that exact sentence on the LDP page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sisuvia (talk • contribs) 14:58, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
August 2018 at Women in Red
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Pakatan Harapan colors: Is it red or light blue?
Hi @Molecule Extraction:. Could you help me out with the issue of Pakatan Harapan's colors at Bayan Lepas (state constituency)? I noted that this same issue had been resolved at Talk:Malaysian general election, 2018 and accordingly, I reverted an edit by user *angys* per WP:CONSISTENCY. But my account was blocked as that user accused me of being a sockpuppet instead. Regardless of whether I should be blocked, this issue will not go away just because I have been blocked. Could you help me out regarding this issue? Surely we could use some consistency for the usage of Pakatan Harapan's colors in all Wikipedia articles. BrundtBank (talk) 14:18, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- @BrundtBank: If such problem continue to persist, my main suggestion is there should be a consensus findings being held in the article talkpage. A solution should already been decided when a majority of Wikipedians decide to follow in that way. Molecule Extraction (talk) 17:38, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Molecule Extraction: Yes I agree that a consensus should be reached. In fact, there were repeated discussions on this very issue at Talk:Malaysian general election, 2018 & at user talk pages (User talk:Lazybugger13A#Re & even *angys*'s own talk page). It does seem that more editors are in favour of using the red color scheme for Pakatan Harapan. The last of these discussions took place some weeks ago, so *angys*'s edits yesterday in spite of all these discussions (and after quite some time had elapsed) are questionable.
- Almost the entire Malaysian general election, 2018 page uses the red color scheme for Pakatan Harapan as well (including the infobox & the map within that infobox). My point is, there should be some standardisation regarding Pakatan Harapan's colors in all Wikipedia articles. Otherwise, it confuses readers when one page (say Malaysian general election, 2018) uses red while the next page (say Bayan Lepas (state constituency)) uses light blue for the same coalition.
- Since you are an editor of more repute, may I suggest that you start a Request for Comment at Talk:Bayan Lepas (state constituency) on whether the color scheme for Pakatan Harapan should be red or light blue? A simple RFC will do. Then at least there will be a deeper discussion to put this matter (whether red or light blue should be used for Pakatan Harapan) to rest once and for all, rather than some unilateral edits by an editor who probably is intent on bulldozing his POV against the consensus of others. BrundtBank (talk) 00:51, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Inviting @Lazybugger13A: for opinion. BrundtBank (talk) 01:01, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Let's us stick with the red colour. Pakatan Harapan's logo background is red. There should not be any confusion in regards to this anymore. Lazybugger13A (talk) 01:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Do take note that *angys* did another similar edit at Padang Kota (state constituency). BrundtBank (talk) 03:24, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks alot, @Molecule Extraction: =). BrundtBank (talk) 04:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- You're welcome BrundtBank.
Now we going to wait the opinion from other editors who specialised in political related articles on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Politics, government, and law. Molecule Extraction (talk) 04:06, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Pakatan Harapan color
Enough said, if they still want to use red despite the use PKR logo and use IP address to revert, I have no choice. Please noticed that User:Vnonymous had been block because of his behaviour and he should talk with the admin who block him. But he still dont want to negotiate and keep creating new account to oppose me. I would not to any changes before PH color get consensus, thank you for your helping to mediate and I felt sad because my edits keep reverting again and again. angys (Talk Talk) 13:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
@*angys*: - First of all, this matter in regards to the use of colour templates is quite simple. I have already explained to you many times already that Pakatan Harapan has already been recognised by the Registrar of Societies. PKR is a member of Pakatan Harapan coalition. Until PKR leaves the coalition we are using the Pakatan Harapan colour template. Irregardless of whether they used their own logo during the by-election campaigning, they are still part of the coalition. Lazybugger13A (talk) 16:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- @*angys*: If checkuser by Bbb23 already confirmed that Vnonymous and Semi-auto is related as seen in the investigation casepage although the user keep denying the result, then that will be so bad since Semi-auto account is used to manipulate decision making like what we see in this two articles when it was used to review good article nominations on Talk:Penang/GA1 and Talk:George Town, Penang/GA2. There is a possibility for both articles to face a reassessment and any past contributions by illegitimate sock account could be erased without any further notice or warnings. FYI, after reading the investigation casepage.. this somehow have remind me of a previous dispute between Polopaladin and Herman Jaka in the previous same article years ago where they engaged in
outrageous/ill conversation as opposed to the five pillars of Wikipedia
, which I believe the same behavioural pattern of Polopadin could be related to Vnonymous too where they could be the same person.. It seems the behaviour of article ownership are very strong in any topics related to Penang. I ever tried to mediate the already heated conversation between the two after one of them reporting to me about the dispute and when reading the edit summary from one of the sock, such threat like "hanging people" should never been made in the first place which subsequently making the editor seen as lacking on civility. BTW, please continue the discussion to find a final answer on the dispute in the article talkpage, not arguing here. Regards. Molecule Extraction (talk) 06:22, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
About Thai names
Don't those Thai names should bear the surname, which always differ one extended family to another? They should be used like the surnames of European footballer in 2018 FIFA World Cup knockout stage for instance. – Flix11 (talk) 11:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Flix11: Nope, per my own life experiences living and working in Thailand with Thai people for years.. it is hard to see them using their second name. Most of them will tell you to call their first name, for example like their past Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. Almost every Thai people calling her simply as Yingluck.. not Shinawatra. Molecule Extraction (talk) 12:03, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Molecule Extraction: Well if in daily life, the British for instance also call the first name (Wayne for Wayne Rooney or Harry for Harry Kane). We are not talking about daily life here. – Flix11 (talk) 07:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Flix11: Of course I knew about that, but everyone must understand that "a majority" of Asian names (especially those related to Lao, Thai and Malaysian names) are "unlike most Western names where they always been referred from the second name". If we talk about football right now since I see you have been contributing to many football related articles, it is better to use the players name like what has been written in their shirt rather than using the other name. Molecule Extraction (talk) 07:37, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Molecule Extraction: Well if in daily life, the British for instance also call the first name (Wayne for Wayne Rooney or Harry for Harry Kane). We are not talking about daily life here. – Flix11 (talk) 07:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
JPJ Logo
Can you make the lpgo and flag for JPJ, I think it is PD as the agency established in 1937 angys (Talk Talk) 03:44, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- @*angys*: Sorry no, as what I already said to other requester, I will not make any vectorisation at the moment. You can request at WP:GL as I already told before. Molecule Extraction (talk) 15:22, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Nvm, just to remind you that your labelled map arent fully blank as the state border cannot translated into other wikipedia language and still leave English. (PS:In chinese wikipedia the state border are still in English and I hope you can do it as blank) angys (Talk Talk) 14:43, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Seems like you are updating for Sabah district border and File:Malaysia location map with districts.svg contains Telupid-Beluran border which us useful to you. Maybe you can try to add Telupid border into that map. angys (Talk Talk) 15:18, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- @*angys*: Thanks, that's really help me a lot. FYI..I have create a Chinese language map of Johor local administration for the use there. Please let me know if there is a mistake as my Mandarin is not that good.
Molecule Extraction (talk) 04:05, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- TQ, but I thunk the file name should be English name + zh because soem traditional chinese user cant type in simplified chinese. You can copy the name here File:Districts and PBT of Johor-zh.svg and Major city can use 主要市镇. (PS: Better put green pog for Spg Renggam, Penggerang and Labis as Yong Peng has a green pog on it). angys (Talk Talk) 04:44, 13 July 2018 (UTC) And feel free to update the borfer for Telupid in File:East Malaysia location map with districts.svg. angys (Talk Talk) 04:47, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- @*angys*: Everything is done now. The Chinese language map file name is also in the waiting process for renaming.
Molecule Extraction (talk) 05:37, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thus time I would like to request to do a blank seat arrangement for Parliament of Malaysia, feel free to do it. (Label may add later as their “world class” website are still updating) angys (Talk Talk) 08:12, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- @*angys*: Everything is done now. The Chinese language map file name is also in the waiting process for renaming.
- TQ, but I thunk the file name should be English name + zh because soem traditional chinese user cant type in simplified chinese. You can copy the name here File:Districts and PBT of Johor-zh.svg and Major city can use 主要市镇. (PS: Better put green pog for Spg Renggam, Penggerang and Labis as Yong Peng has a green pog on it). angys (Talk Talk) 04:44, 13 July 2018 (UTC) And feel free to update the borfer for Telupid in File:East Malaysia location map with districts.svg. angys (Talk Talk) 04:47, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- @*angys*: Thanks, that's really help me a lot. FYI..I have create a Chinese language map of Johor local administration for the use there. Please let me know if there is a mistake as my Mandarin is not that good.
- Please see this c:Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Mandarin_7.jpg angys (Talk Talk) 08:46, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Can you help me to do a little bit adjust on MPSP flag, plzz.. angys (Talk Talk) 09:41, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
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Johor
Thank you from the deep of my heart for the beautifully written of Johor article expansion :') ... And that's what I call a truly encyclopedic article of Wikipedia with all of the hard facts and figures, not just what are the "commonly known" by the people from mouth-to-mouth or from tourists visiting the state. Chongkian (talk) 15:04, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Chongkian: You're welcome and I also want to thank you for the barnstar and many of your graphics contribution towards Malaysian topics since without any graphics that article will still incomplete.
Molecule Extraction (talk) 17:32, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oh btw, can you help to expand the economy section of Johor Bahru article? It seems too little for a city article. Of course Johor Bahru article in overall also needs a full overhaul to rewrite it more objectively and Only within the boundary scope of the city border (area under the jurisdiction of the Johor Bahru City Council (Majlis Bandaraya Johor Bahru, MBJB)). Generally, Johor Bahru article scope doesnt have proper boundary. It overlaps too often with Iskandar Malaysia and also within other area inside Johor Bahru District, including Iskandar Puteri and Pasir Gudang. The geography of Johor Bahru is also lacking many importance information, such as average height, contour, any major hill or river, etc Chongkian (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Chongkian: Sure, I will take a look on that once the reviewing process on Johor is finished. For now I need to focused on my real life work while limiting my contribution at the moment. About Malaysian local authorities (including those of Johor), actually there have been a long time problem on this regarding the information that was featured on their local authorities websites, many of the useful information that was supposed to be featured are not even available. Many Johoreans (who supposedly know more about the information of their homeland) are not even bother to help correcting any mistakes on the article apart from making vandalism due to which it happened from my own experience dealing with several IPs location that come from the state. Much of the local government websites also are not even maintained properly with some are seen with no update for more than a year. Apart from those website in West Malaysia, one of the closest example will be Sarawak where many of their important districts articles are still in the red link even it is now already 2018. This is actually what has become the major obstacles to developing their articles especially when we are not even living on that place. Molecule Extraction (talk) 04:25, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oh btw, can you help to expand the economy section of Johor Bahru article? It seems too little for a city article. Of course Johor Bahru article in overall also needs a full overhaul to rewrite it more objectively and Only within the boundary scope of the city border (area under the jurisdiction of the Johor Bahru City Council (Majlis Bandaraya Johor Bahru, MBJB)). Generally, Johor Bahru article scope doesnt have proper boundary. It overlaps too often with Iskandar Malaysia and also within other area inside Johor Bahru District, including Iskandar Puteri and Pasir Gudang. The geography of Johor Bahru is also lacking many importance information, such as average height, contour, any major hill or river, etc Chongkian (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
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 | Hello, Molecule Extraction. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for Johor at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! Tdslk (talk) 21:15, 14 October 2018 (UTC) |
- @Tdslk: Thank you so much! Molecule Extraction (talk) 09:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
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Weird userpage/talk obscenities
Heya, is this who has been creating those obscene talk page comments on random IPs and your talk page over the last few months? Praxidicae (talk) 13:31, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae: Yes, 100% can be sure it is the same person based on his similar motive that like to posting nonsense messages to any users who has reverting his disruptive contribution. One of his sock account was ever caught for threatening patroller as you can see here. Another sock that has been proved to have a connection with the main account caught with mass reverting. If you see in my talkpage history, the first time I encounter the user with an Internet protocol address (IP) (since most of his sock account has been blocked in 2015) was in the year of 2016 and you can see the identical behaviour with the sock account with mass reverting as well with the nonsense message as seen here. Along the same year, another IP caught with the same behaviour (2016) and you can see the similarities with the latest IP in this year (2018). The person usually using IP range between 175 from a location in Johor, Malaysia but this year it seems he got another IP with range of 42 from a location in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Previously, only two (¹ ²) seems to be different with range of 60 and 210 with both located in Selangor, Malaysia as seen on his case page that was collected by other user. See with the mass reverting again that occurred in 2018 through his new IP and if you comparing with the rest old IPs here, most of his intention are largely on television, Chinese dramas/artists etc.. Subsequently, this one with similar range of 42 caught for editing other user messages so exactly without no more doubt can be sure that is all related. I don't know why he suddenly come back and making vandalism in my talkpage despite I never saw nor countering his disruptive edits for a year in 2017. Molecule Extraction (talk) 14:39, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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Malaysia global hub and international rankings.
Singapore is a global hub for education,[10] entertainment,[11] finance, healthcare,[12] human capital,[13] innovation,[14] logistics,[15] manufacturing,[16] technology,[17] tourism,[18] trade, and transport.[19] The city ranks highly in numerous international rankings, and has been recognized as the most "technology-ready" nation (WEF), top International-meetings city (UIA),[20][21] city with "best investment potential" (BERI), world's smartest city,[22] world's safest country,[23][24] second-most competitive country, third-largest foreign exchange market, third-largest financial centre, third-largest oil refining and trading centre, fifth-most innovative country, and the second-busiest container port.[25] The Economist has ranked Singapore as the most expensive city to live in, since 2013.[26] It is identified as a tax haven. Singapore is the only country in Asia with an AAA sovereign rating from all major rating agencies, and one of 11 worldwide. Globally, the Port of Singapore and Changi Airport have held the titles of leading "Maritime Capital" and "Best Airport" respectively for consecutive years, while Singapore Airlines is the 2018 "World's Best Airline".[27][28]
Even Sngapore has statement above. Does it sound like promotion? See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore Islam Al-Behairy (talk) 05:23, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Islam Al-Behairy: It is, that is why that article hard to reach good article status. See Switzerland and Hong Kong articles for example, do you see any "over excessive promotional praising" in the article lead? Molecule Extraction (talk) 05:26, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
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Malaysia
Dear Molecule, I'm afraid that in seeking to delete the additions made by User:Islam Al-Behairy, you have also deleted several perfectly good edits, by me and others. This is unacceptable. I should not have to do all that work again. You need to delete individually the additions by User:Islam Al-Behairy to which you object. Thanks, Alarics (talk) 10:46, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Alarics: You're welcome. Actually your minor edit can be restored by just copying right from the version of your edit before my revert towards the editor, not necessary restoring his edit again. I can't do at the time since using a mobile rather than a PC where it can easily be done. For the other editor edits that was also reverted by me, there have been a discussion before on the article to put only language script recognised under the country constitution. Molecule Extraction (talk) 13:16, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Former subsection on women in Indonesia article
Hello,
I added a subsection on the situation of women to the Indonesia article on November 20th, 2016 by this edit. However, it was removed the following month: [7]. What might people from Indonesia think about this edit? Kind regards, Sarcelles (talk) 13:25, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Sarcelles: Hello, sorry for the late replying. I think that have something to do with these two:
- Directly copied from a website without any permission from its author.
- Point of view that are not balanced. Every of the sentences supposedly been rewritten to preventing it from being bias. Better to be written in one paragraph and describe the topics more specifically. Not forget that it is also more suitable to be placed in Women in Indonesia, not the main article of Indonesia especially when the article is with a featured status.
- Cheers! Molecule Extraction (talk) 19:36, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Vietnam National Football Team
If you change the "first match" statistic, then you should remove South Vietnamese results and relating infos in the article, too. Or you can revert your change and remove the note section. It's not needed.2001:EE0:4001:2FE2:59C5:3585:F544:2E8D (talk) 13:32, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- @2001:EE0:4001:2FE2:59C5:3585:F544:2E8D: To be honest, that article is really messed up. They should only put the records of the present national team except for a bit about the formation of the team in the history section like what been featured in Malaysia national football team#History which is the successor of Malaya national football team. The records of North and South Vietnams supposedly being placed only on their respective articles (North Vietnam national football team and South Vietnam national football team). That need a recalculations so I need a Vietnamese who knows more on their team records. Molecule Extraction (talk) 02:19, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- This topics is more complicated than I thought.. When I read the Germany national football team, Russia national football team, Italy national football team for example, it seems they also include the first international/biggest win/defeat records of old Germany (not the West Germany, East Germany), Russian Federation (old flag) and Kingdom of Italy record results. Is this have something to do with FIFA recognition? I really need an expert on football topics for this matter. Molecule Extraction (talk) 02:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vietnam is a peculiar article along with Germany as they're the two only countries whose two football federations in the past united into one as for present. Unlike North Korea and South Korea whose two football foundations exist and yet to merge, hence easy to seperate. In this article, yes I agree that only the national football team belongs to the present regime to be counted, obsolete football teams and their records should of be written in seperate article. As you can see, the records for top goalscorers and top caps doesn't count former South or North Vietnam, the sections are not balanced. I think you should raise this issue in talk page or request editing it. Whether Fifa recognized it is not important because wikipedia is not subjected to Fifa's standard. Fifa recognition is only their method to rank teams according to historical achievements. Fifa recognized South Vietnam only because it is a former member and influenced by political aspects of the time.
- This topics is more complicated than I thought.. When I read the Germany national football team, Russia national football team, Italy national football team for example, it seems they also include the first international/biggest win/defeat records of old Germany (not the West Germany, East Germany), Russian Federation (old flag) and Kingdom of Italy record results. Is this have something to do with FIFA recognition? I really need an expert on football topics for this matter. Molecule Extraction (talk) 02:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
I also suggest: 1. Removing non vital infos such as the VFF cup table in this history section, it is only a cluster of unrelated friendly tournaments. 2. Top goalscorers and caps can be minimized like the all time records table. 3. Deleting informations related to North or South Vietnam team in Honours section and put them in respective articles instead. 4. Organizing the history section again, as informations about "Two Vietnam eras" can be deleted and linked to North and South Vietnam teams' articles; Post-war infos section do not need sub-headings and can be put into a single paragraph because they are only small continuous events, non significant periods.2001:EE0:4001:2FE2:F9A0:9102:EEE2:8C22 (talk) 03:17, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- @2001:EE0:4001:2FE2:F9A0:9102:EEE2:8C22: I have leaving a message on the article talkpage to asking the opinion of other football-related topics editors. Cheers! Molecule Extraction (talk) 03:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- It appears that a lot of editors monitoring this page everyday. But none has yet to join discussion still continuing their own activities. Are we going to get to the next step?113.183.15.174 (talk) 19:56, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- @113.183.15.174: Be patient. This may takes times since it is almost holidays now (Christmas and not longer also the New Year). So those experienced editors on football related matters could be holidaying now. Once any of them reply the message there and get some consensus, then we may take some steps. If we doing it now without discussing, then it will be only useless since most of the admins/patrollers are already against on removing large amount of information without any discussion as seen from their discussion in the talkpage. Molecule Extraction (talk) 03:15, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- It appears that a lot of editors monitoring this page everyday. But none has yet to join discussion still continuing their own activities. Are we going to get to the next step?113.183.15.174 (talk) 19:56, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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Why is it that when it comes to Thai names in football competition articles, the given name is used in goals instead of the family name? It's just weird because the surname is used for almost all countries' goals. Thanks. Babymissfortune 16:41, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Babymissfortune: Hi. You're welcome. Perhaps this have something to do with the cultural norms in naming which have been practised/recognised officially in Thailand [8]. In case you didn't know, referring someone by their surnames in this country is considered as very impolite by most Thais here especially when you want to communicate with them so most Thais refrain from being called by their surname. Not just for Thailand but if we observe many Western-established media today, many of them seems to have a very poor understanding of people name in many Asian country just like how when they referring the former Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak as “Mr. Razak” [9], [10] than “Mr. Najib” because when you do a research on Malay names, most of the last name (surname) is actually their father name and not the person own name. So when they refer the person as “Mr. Razak” in the Malaysian corruption scandal, it is like implying that the culprit is his father who are actually not involved at all since he has been dead long time ago even before the scandal started. The situation also similar here in Thailand since the “responsibility” are on the person that involved which is in the “first name” (own/calling name), not their “family” (surname). Molecule Extraction (talk) 17:38, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Despite this, there is exception for Thais that were born from mixed marriage between a Thai mother and Western father like Charyl Chappuis where he is being referred from the last name (surname) as "Chappuis", Philip Roller as "Roller" and Manuel Bihr as "Bihr". Molecule Extraction (talk) 17:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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On 28 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2019 Jolo Cathedral bombings, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
@MSGJ: Thanks. But the casualties total need to be corrected based on its latest update as of 11PM on 27 January 2019. Molecule Extraction (talk) 11:12, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- I see this has been handled by someone else. PS what's with the awful colors on this page? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:12, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: Ah, I see. Nothing. Just want to making any visitors feeling dizzy when they frequently stalking this page.
Molecule Extraction (talk) 13:25, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: Ah, I see. Nothing. Just want to making any visitors feeling dizzy when they frequently stalking this page.
thank you for the thank you
it was a pleasure to help you with the jolo massacre page, sad as the event is. your english is excellent and clear but imperfect, i'm a native speaker and here's how the top of your talk page would read in standard gringlish (i.e. u.s. english, gringo-english)...
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if you'd like i could help you with text revision every now and then. thanks again Potholehotline (talk) 07:14, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Potholehotline: Hi Potholehotline.. I want to thank you too for frequently editing the grammar problems from each of the sentences written by me on the article. Yes, I admit that my English is not so perfect since it is not my native language.
I am really glad if you can help me with copy-edit on any articles that I want to develop if there is too much "wrong choice of words". Molecule Extraction (talk) 09:22, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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@molecule extraction your english is really good, but, again, when you have some text you'd like revised just send it to me, i check for wikipedia mail a few times a week. thanks, Potholehotline (talk) 04:21, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
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